Time Nick Message 21:54 tuxayo Which is also why there was a shift towards diesel cars in Europe. As if it's was not hard enough to use less fossil fuel, they constrain each-other! 21:54 tuxayo We produce a lot of gasoline for cars and to have an balanced output there must be something like 30% or more lighter elements like diesel and kerosene. 21:54 tuxayo matts: followup: IIUC it's in big part due to how oil refineries work, there is a fixed amount of hydrogen and carbon in the input crude oil. 21:42 Gary Thanks very much indeed for your time 21:42 tuxayo good, I hope you find a suitable hosting. Nice project :) 21:40 Gary I have done that and this is moving towards production. 21:39 tuxayo To test setting up a Koha a local VM running Linux on you machine might be more convenient. 21:38 tuxayo Gary: would the free tier machine have been production instance or just a test? 21:37 Gary Well its all a learning journey! Very impressed with Koha but beginning to wish I had no volunteered to get it going in a primary school in South Africa ;-) 21:36 tuxayo ah ok 21:36 tuxayo it's not possible to change the RAM amount of a VM without destroying it's storage? 21:36 tuxayo > I might be starting from scratch 21:35 Gary I was trying to get this in on a 1gb free tier machine! 21:35 tuxayo assuming 500M would cost a bit. 21:34 tuxayo it's a rough estimate, and it's likely a bit more now since it's old info. But if you monitor you RAM carefully you might not need to spend much more than now on RAM. 21:33 Gary Looking at Amazons FAQ's I might be starting from scratch, but I would not have got to this point without your help! 21:33 tuxayo > Following these instructions will result in an instance of Koha and the necessary support software which together consume between 750MB - 1GB of memory at idle. If you are installing the MySQL server on the same machine as Koha, assume it is going to need another 350MB - 500MB of RAM. 21:33 tuxayo https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 21:32 tuxayo Note that some Koha service might have been killed by the system due to lack of RAM. (like the background job worker used for imports!) I'm not sure it would restart on demand. So you might want to restart your Koha instance. 21:31 Gary right lets see if I can change it, so near yet so far. Thanks for your help 21:30 tuxayo That wouldn't be a surprise it's not enough. 21:30 Gary 737 used 21:30 Gary sorry free 177 21:30 Gary 987m 21:28 tuxayo what does `free -h` says? 21:28 Gary I will see if I can up the memory on Amazon 21:28 tuxayo I don't know how much free RAM is there. And how the process work. But yes people import much more without needed dozens of GB of RAM. 21:28 tuxayo > 3000 records not to big 21:28 Gary also did'nt work fork failed while attempting to run tools/stage-marc-import.pl as a background job: Cannot allocate memory at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/tools/stage-marc-import.pl line 130 21:26 Gary let me try with 20 21:26 Gary 3000 records not to big??? 21:25 tuxayo how large is the MARC file? 21:25 tuxayo good catch 21:24 tuxayo lol 21:24 Gary Ah, just seen this AH01215: Out of memory!: /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/tools/stage-marc-import.pl 21:23 tuxayo It's indeed MARCedit ^^ 21:23 tuxayo Ok I just found this https://koha-community.org/manual/21.11/en/html/third_party_software.html?highlight=excel#importing-excel-data-into-koha 21:23 Gary so its a mrc file there, sorry I am not being clear 21:22 Gary Yeah, its using MARCedit to convert 21:21 tuxayo Didn't you use MARC files with your Koha at school? 21:21 tuxayo I didn't know it worked with CSV. Because MARC isn't CSV. 21:20 Gary let me do it again 21:20 Gary yeah but it stops when staging 21:20 Gary tools stage marc 21:20 tuxayo "Stage MARC records for import" and then "Manage staged MARC records" ? 21:20 Gary or do you mean how did i get there 21:19 Gary I used one that I had used before at school, yesterday in fact 21:19 Gary more of it [cgi:error] [pid 2402] [client 154.73.223.199:52262] End of script output before headers: stage-marc-import.pl 21:19 tuxayo which Koha page do you use for importing CSV? 21:18 Gary So I assume that is the error + message sent 21:18 Gary and then this pops up in the log file "GET /intranet/errors/500.pl HTTP/ 21:17 Gary End of script output before headers: stage-marc-import.pl 21:14 tuxayo tail -fn0 /var/log/koha/kohadev/* 21:14 tuxayo this should give a cleaner starting output 21:14 tuxayo when you run the tail command, in this case, disregard the existing lines and focus on new ones coming when you get the error 21:13 tuxayo "pass request body failed" is that a new line that pops when you CSV book addition? 21:13 tuxayo the tail command will give you all. I think it should be plack-intranet-error.log if there is too much noise from the other files. 21:11 Gary will try now 21:11 Gary in which error log? 21:10 tuxayo Gary try to CSV book addition and check out the new line that came with that 21:10 Gary Things like this in the intranet log[proxy_http:error] [pid 2761] [client 159.223.155.224:48218] AH01097: pass request body failed to 0.0.0.0:0 (httpd-UDS) from 159$ 21:08 Gary ok I see thats how I open them, just no idea what Im looking for 21:06 Gary there are error logs for lots of things.... is plack the one I want? Sorry to be a pain 21:05 Gary ok so thats where the logs are the, do I just open it sudo nano? 21:05 tuxayo So I let this in a terminal and then do the action that yields an error and see the new line of log that came up. 21:05 tuxayo This command will output any new line logged in every file. To miss nothing. 21:05 tuxayo In my case the directory of my library is named kohadev 21:05 tuxayo tail -f /var/log/koha/kohadev/* 21:05 tuxayo great, when I investigate an issue I run this command: 21:03 Gary Or I see the name of my library in blue 21:02 Gary I have my library in that folder 21:01 tuxayo I have a directory named with the name I gave my Koha instance and all the logfiles are there 21:01 tuxayo Gary: what do you got in "/var/log/koha/" ? 21:00 Gary I am not sure how to get there, but am willing to learn 21:00 tuxayo hi Gary do you have access to the log to get more details about that error 500? 20:59 Gary Testing testing 123! Hi all, I have set up a Koha instance on an Amazon Virtual Machine I can connect to admin and opac fine, have added some patrons but everytime I try and add books via CSV I get a 500 20:59 tuxayo Indeed, that *might* even make aviation more subsidized than rail and road infrastructure! 20:59 tuxayo matts: «no tax on kerosene is vastly responsible for that, I think» 20:52 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_D10 build #207: SUCCESS in 1 hr 0 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_D10/207/ 20:51 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_U_Stable build #135: SUCCESS in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_U_Stable/135/ 20:33 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_D9 build #133: SUCCESS in 58 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_D9/133/ 20:30 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_D11 build #161: UNSTABLE in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_D11/161/ 20:19 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_U_Stable build #134: SUCCESS in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_U_Stable/134/ 20:02 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_U16 build #138: SUCCESS in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_U16/138/ 19:51 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_D10 build #206: SUCCESS in 1 hr 2 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_D10/206/ 19:41 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_U18 build #129: SUCCESS in 1 hr 10 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_U18/129/ 19:39 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_D11 build #160: SUCCESS in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_D11/160/ 19:34 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_U20 build #140: SUCCESS in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_U20/140/ 19:26 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_D12 build #86: SUCCESS in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_D12/86/ 19:01 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_U_Stable build #133: SUCCESS in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_U_Stable/133/ 18:53 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_U16 build #137: SUCCESS in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_U16/137/ 18:48 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_D10 build #205: SUCCESS in 1 hr 4 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_D10/205/ 18:39 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_D9 build #132: SUCCESS in 58 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_D9/132/ 18:30 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_D12 build #85: SUCCESS in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_D12/85/ 18:20 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_D11 build #159: SUCCESS in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_D11/159/ 18:17 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_U20 build #139: SUCCESS in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_U20/139/ 17:06 ashimema He's the right person I believe 17:06 ashimema Oh really.. I got a mail back within minutes when I sent him one this morning ... He may just have missed or maybe it got marked as spam? 17:00 domm ashimema: I sent a mail to Paul Poulain regarding hackfest on tuesday but haven't heard back yet. Is he the wrong person? Or just busy? 16:33 reiveune bye 14:22 matts tuxayo, no tax on kerosene is vastly responsible for that, I think. 13:42 tuxayo If that can help, know that for the Paris-Marseille part, night trains are again in service. It ceased during a few years. 13:42 tuxayo Which increases even more the cost! 13:42 tuxayo > with a 4x increase in time it takes too! 13:35 tuxayo That's the problem with oil, it's overpowered compared to everything else, so no wonder we use so much of it and are addict ^^ 13:35 tuxayo > it's really upsetting how much more the train costs vs a cheap flight.. like a 10x increase 13:32 tuxayo hi ^^ 13:29 cait1 ashimema++ 11:36 ashimema we're trying to be more green as a company.. so have been considering training it.. it's really upsetting how much more the train costs vs a cheap flight.. like a 10x increase (with a 4x increase in time it takes too!) 11:35 ashimema but those tickets will sell out or just be taken off the market as they are. 11:34 ashimema right now it's uber cheap to get there for us 11:34 ashimema prices will go up 11:34 ashimema totally the same position.. 11:34 cait1 yeah, I think that's an issue with it being so soon 11:34 ashimema yeah 11:34 oleonard I'm stuck between wanting to wait and see and wanting to get tickets before it's too late/expensive. 11:34 cait1 o 11:34 cait1 I really WANT to go to 11:33 cait1 yeah :( 11:33 oleonard Understatement. 11:33 ashimema the world is such a mess right now â˜¹ï¸ 11:33 ashimema We have 3 here keen to go, plus one more whose waiting on more Covid data 11:30 oleonard Still deciding... I really want to. 11:29 ashimema hackfest oleonard? 11:28 cait1 March is usually pretty cold here still... I was hoping it would be pushed more into summer 11:27 oleonard Hi #koha 11:21 ashimema I'm still considering it all... hoping the numbers have settled down again by March 11:21 ashimema fair 11:20 cait1 10 hour train ride... big group of people... daily restaurant visits ... 11:20 cait1 March is really soon and the numbers/situation here is really bad with Covid 11:19 cait1 I am not sure I'll be able to attend by then 11:18 ashimema Paul tells me only Joubu has so far 😉 11:18 ashimema not registered for hackfest yet? 11:13 ashimema oop.. I see you PM'd me that 11:13 ashimema what plugin is it? 11:12 cait1 ok, I am checkign the table sec 11:12 cait1 nope 11:12 ashimema nuke the plugins table in the database may be simplest 11:12 ashimema if you are installing for the first time and don't have any data to keep 11:10 cait1 can I check easily if something has been isntalled despite the internal server error? 11:10 cait1 but have treid multiple times already... 11:10 cait1 installing for the first time 11:06 ashimema cait1 ^ 11:06 ashimema it not being defined is what would lead to that error 11:06 ashimema basically.. make sure 'version' is defined in the metadata of the plugin 11:04 ashimema must be upgrade I think, else it wouldn't call _version_compare (unless they're calling it internally in their plugin.. which I've seen a few times) 11:04 ashimema and are you installing it for the first time or upgrading it? 11:03 ashimema what plugin is it again cait1 10:29 cait1 the lines are: sub _version_compare { my @args = @_; if ( $args[0]->isa('Koha::Plugins::Base') ) { shift @args; } 10:26 cait1 Full error is: Can't call method "isa" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/Plugins/Base.pm line 300 on koha 20.11.12 10:23 cait1 anyone any idea about this? I wonder if it could be a dependency issue... as I have a report tht it installs fine for someone else on the same version 10:22 cait1 I have an error Can't call method "isa" on an undefined value at when trying to install a plugin 10:14 * cait1 waves 10:05 ashimema lol 10:04 cait1 :) 10:04 cait1 texts tend to get better if you are forced to write them a second time... but it#s still no fun 10:04 marcelr hmm 10:04 marcelr what you do not recollect, was not needed 10:04 marcelr it is a way to improve your code 10:03 marcelr lol 10:03 marcelr i like to edit git formatted patches but sometimes things happen 10:00 ashimema my stash gets huge sometimes 10:00 ashimema hehe 10:00 Joubu git stash, always ;) 09:50 marcelr hi ashimema 09:50 marcelr just deleted a finished test; git reset ! 09:50 ashimema morning 08:53 marcelr trying to get back there 08:53 marcelr Joubu++ 08:45 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 08:45 Joubu @later tell khall I've attached a follow-up on bug 29735, please include it in 21.11.02 07:56 alex_a Bonjour 07:30 reiveune hello 07:10 marcelr hi #koha