Time  Nick       Message
18:31 oleonard   I'm it?
18:25 kidclamp   oleonard-away: tag
17:10 oleonard   kidclamp around?
16:39 oleonard   Maybe I did the ritual dance incorrectly
16:34 cait       :(  wish I was more helpful - we always include hte custom files in the package, so never tried remote
16:32 cait       i was wondering if you needed to change the utils path to a URL too
16:32 cait       hm
16:23 pastebot   "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "XSL error" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/5410
16:20 cait       last time i had the import one the real one was hiding a big above
16:20 cait       what's the full error in the log?
16:20 cait       ok
16:20 cait       or did you change the path?
16:20 oleonard   I do see showISBNISSN in the copy of MARC21slimUtils.xsl I uploaded.
16:19 cait       you copied the utils one too?
16:19 oleonard   At the moment all I've done is copied the unchanged files to a remote server
16:19 cait       not sure if you already did, but can you share what you have as changes?
16:18 cait       also, sometimes I get an import error when it's actually a syntax error
16:18 cait       i seem to remember it's only in opac or staff
16:18 cait       does showISBNISSN exist?
16:16 oleonard   No, I'm very confused. I just keep double-checking the file names to make sure everything is correct
16:16 cait       oleonard: did you solve your XSLT issue?
16:02 reiveune   bye
14:52 Joubu      (ofc I misread your second line and thought it was the same filename, hence the nonsense..)
14:47 oleonard   I did include it
14:46 Joubu      that ^
14:46 Joubu      koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/xslt/MARC21slimUtils.xsl:    <xsl:template name="showISBNISSN">
14:46 Joubu      did you include the utils xslt?
14:46 Joubu      it's saying it cannot find the showISBNISSN "template"
14:46 Joubu      no
14:42 oleonard   ...which implies that it can't find MARC21slimUtils.xsl, but the file is there...
14:41 oleonard   "runtime error: file http://.../xslt/MARC21slim2intranetDetail.xsl element call-template. The called template 'showISBNISSN' was not found."
14:36 Joubu      oleonard: thanks!
14:30 oleonard   Sorry, was afk. Yes Joubu I will have time today
14:20 cait       bbiab
13:48 Joubu      oleonard: do you think you will have time today or tomorrow to have a look at the flatpickr bugs?
13:47 cait       oleonard++ updated yarn... it looks good now
13:44 cait       oleonard: could you tell me which yarn version you have?
13:42 cait       could be a kohadevbox issue... as you are all using koha-testing-docker?
13:42 cait       i am trying to see if i can maybe update things
13:41 cait       (now back to yarn.. i am being difficult today)
13:41 cait       oleonard: i think that's likely... but it's really odd
13:29 cait       oleonard: was not your fault - the paste was just text, I had copied from the email and that had mismatch of link and url
13:29 * oleonard resigns forever as proofreader
13:29 cait       i think I'll risk it
13:29 cait       same email
13:29 cait       my link on koha is right, on koha-devel it's not
13:28 cait       hm the weird thing is - if you receive as text it's right
13:28 Joubu      if you don't, somebody else will, do it :D
13:27 cait       do I sent a correction or will people notice?
13:25 cait       i hate mail clients
13:25 * cait     cries
13:25 cait       it links to this year's
13:25 cait       the link is wrong
13:25 cait       oh darn
13:25 oleonard   cait your CSS is definitely different than mine, and I'm guessing it's a dependency version thing, not sure though
13:24 cait       i don't want to know about any typos now!
13:24 cait       i sent it
13:23 ashimema   okies
13:23 cait       will probably be better next time
13:23 oleonard   ashimema: I don't think it makes much difference.
13:23 ashimema   what's an example of needing to define the click event?
13:23 cait       yeah, it's just this time most of those actions don't fit
13:22 ashimema   lol
13:22 ashimema   I've generally done the former
13:22 Joubu      cait: actions from last meeting could stay, I will remove the release list
13:22 ashimema   interesting
13:22 oleonard   ashimema: I usually do the latter, but I think that's because I need to define the click event anyway
13:22 cait       and actions from last meeting... hm
13:21 cait       the updates on releases with the versions will be outdated too often :)
13:21 * ashimema is going for coding consistency
13:21 cait       Joubu: i tihnk with quarterly General meetins we need to change the agenda
13:21 ashimema   oleonard that paste above is for you 😉
13:20 cait       i tihnk ti was more... communicate any changes and don't ut on holidays :)
13:20 Joubu      :D
13:20 pastebot   "ashimema" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Should I prefer one over the other for populating a modal" (14 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/5394
13:20 Joubu      we are missing "don't change the dates" after you announced them
13:19 cait       I was tempted already to do that
13:19 cait       should i bold it? :)
13:19 Joubu      indeed
13:19 cait       See  Processes for KohaCon for rules previously established for proposal eligibility, voting, etc.
13:19 cait       processes
13:19 cait       it is linked
13:18 Joubu      cait: shouldn't we link to the wiki page with the requirements?
13:18 * ashimema uses paste
13:18 ashimema   oleonard... more on modals
13:17 cait       next general is january 12, so at least it's before that
13:17 cait       i just realized january 8 is saturday
13:17 cait       thx!
13:17 cait       yes, doubl echecking
13:17 Joubu      KohaCon22!
13:16 Joubu      cait: wait
13:15 oleonard   I would say something if there were anything that stood out
13:11 cait       i never trust you people if you don't have any remaarks about my English etc.
13:11 ashimema   both cait
13:11 ashimema   if the API is going slow you'll see a spinner in the submission button on submission whilst it's waiting for the response and before the modal closes.
13:11 oleonard   I suppose both wouldn't hurt
13:10 cait       koha, koha-devel..?
13:10 ashimema   the submission button on the resolve modal also contains a somewhat hidden feature
13:09 ashimema   but it looks good to me
13:09 ashimema   sorry cait.. I've only just got out of meetings
13:09 ashimema   send it
13:09 oleonard   #vote send
13:08 cait       can I send or get someone to send it? :)
13:08 cait       [off] http://paste.koha-community.org/5392
13:08 cait       unrelated tihng...
13:07 ashimema   I'll leave it as is for now
13:07 ashimema   clearly we're on the same wavelength here 🙂
13:06 ashimema   haha
13:06 oleonard   https://zivotdesign.com/p/index.php?/category/3
13:06 oleonard   ashimema: In fact just yesterday I started gathering modal window comparisons to prepare to try to settle on a guideline
13:05 ashimema   which surprised me
13:05 ashimema   as in.. the resolve claim button in the resolve modal is blue
13:05 ashimema   oleonard.. do we have a guidline for button colours?
13:03 cait       oleonard: http://paste.koha-community.org/5391
13:02 cait       give me a moment
13:02 cait       i as just about to figure out how to share my changed css
13:01 cait       yes
13:00 oleonard   cait could you do 'yarn css --view opac' and post the resulting opac.css?
13:00 cait       trying to focus... but failing
12:59 cait       it's me
12:59 cait       ok sorry
12:59 Joubu      not the same thing
12:59 cait       oh
12:59 huginn`    Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29515 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Don't require title for HTML customizations
12:59 cait       bug 29515
12:59 oleonard   cait: I think that bug is for what I pointed out... that title sometimes should show but doesn't
12:59 cait       quite confused now - we wanted to make it optional?
12:59 cait       Joubu: I had already made a bug
12:59 huginn`    Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29518 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, In Discussion , Title not display additional contents
12:59 Joubu      bug 29518
12:59 cait       Using firefox
12:58 cait       so odd :(
12:58 cait       did you run the yarn buld?
12:58 oleonard   I don't see the same problem here
12:58 cait       https://snipboard.io/ytf0Gw.jpg
12:56 cait       are the files out of sync or is my yarn thing outdated or so?
12:56 cait       I get the display issue
12:56 cait       when I run yarn build --view opac
12:56 cait       using the CSS files form master - all is good
12:56 cait       oleonard: i figured it out, but it's really weird
12:55 cait       I just spent 3 days updating our XSLT files...
12:55 cait       let me know if i can help
12:55 * oleonard is trying to do an XSLT customization with typical results
12:55 cait       but actually... let me check something
12:55 cait       oleonard: the one where the > moves to a weird position
12:54 oleonard   Feel free if you'd like
12:54 oleonard   Not at the moment
12:53 Joubu      oleonard: are you working on the blocktitle bug?
12:53 oleonard   ?
12:52 cait       oleonard: i have the weird breadcrumb bheaviour on master now :(
12:48 jzairo     hi cait :)
12:47 cait       hi jzairo :)
12:42 jzairo     hello!
12:18 cait       updated the bug about our conclusion that it could be optional
12:17 oleonard   The heading would come out of html_helpers to it probably wouldn't be correct. May need to be a style thing instead.
12:17 ashimema   love that we think about accessibility without having to consciously think about it.
12:16 ashimema   🙂
12:16 cait       ah, it probably is part of the template, nm
12:15 cait       thinking about the hierarchies work
12:15 cait       hm does that work with accessibliity?
12:11 oleonard   Yes
12:09 cait       a heading of a certain kind?
12:09 cait       what exactly does it add?
12:09 cait       wondering
12:09 oleonard   That would be better.
12:08 oleonard   If it were optional we could eliminate the "blocktitle => 0" and let the user add it or not.
12:08 oleonard   yes.
12:08 cait       but optional would work, right?
12:08 cait       oh interesting, i didn#t know that
12:04 oleonard   So theoretically OpacLoginInstructions should show the title if it's there.
12:03 oleonard   For instance OpacHeader has "blocktitle => 0" but OpacLoginInstructions doesn't.
12:03 oleonard   Some blocks are deliberately configured to exclude the title even if it's present, but others were intended to have it be optional. But it doesn't look like it's working
11:53 cait       not news
11:53 cait       yes, i was only talkin about blocks :)
11:46 ashimema   and 'pages' I see as it's won thing again
11:46 ashimema   but 'blocks' does
11:46 ashimema   I don't think news lends itself to the visual option I was suggesting
11:45 ashimema   remember it's two features
11:45 cait       so probably need something for start page... and maybe don't make all of them visual
11:45 cait       we also have some in patron accounts and sco
11:44 cait       maybe a pull down to pick from - it would not be too long right now as we are no onger having entries per language
11:44 ashimema   I wasn't thinking of going as far as wordpress
11:43 cait       i'd love that, but we might want to provide a well accessible option in parallel
11:43 ashimema   kinda, ish
11:43 cait       that would be a bit like wordpress right?
11:43 huginn`    Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29424 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Replace the table on 'HTML customisations' administration with a visual alternative.
11:43 ashimema   bug 29424
11:42 cait       ah i was just wondering about that
11:42 Joubu      ha but varchar default ''
11:42 Joubu      it's marked as not null
11:42 cait       for the title?
11:42 Joubu      it's not that easy, you will need to update the DB struct
11:41 cait       ok, language i s not there, but the location is enough
11:41 * ashimema is keen to do that visual bug
11:41 cait       actually seeing the location and language is enough
11:41 cait       it does display, but maybe we could make it not mandatory
11:41 cait       just having a look
11:40 Joubu      I think it's the only thing displayed in the list actually
11:40 cait       hm
11:40 Joubu      *ed
11:40 Joubu      isn't the title display on the list view?
11:37 huginn`    Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29515 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Don't require title for HTML customizations
11:37 cait       bug 29515
11:34 ashimema   yup
11:34 cait       this should be an easier fix
11:34 cait       but i think a see also will be enough
11:34 cait       will do
11:34 ashimema   link it to the code one 😉
11:34 ashimema   thanks
11:34 ashimema   🙂
11:34 cait       don't worry, I'll file
11:34 cait       I emant I got it
11:33 wahanui    meetings are https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Next_IRC_meetings
11:33 ashimema   meetings
11:33 ashimema   sorry.. I'm only half here..
11:33 cait       I am here now :)
11:33 ashimema   then prompty forgot to report it
11:33 ashimema   I wondered that one too
11:32 cait       I'll file it for discussion
11:32 cait       a little late question... but do we need title to be mandatory on html customizations? they don't show
11:16 * cait     waves
11:11 ashimema   morning
11:11 tcohen     goood morning
11:03 cait       found it AutoRenewalNotices
11:00 huginn`    Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29456 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Signed Off , "Auto renewal" and "Hold reminder" notice shown as "unknown" on the patron category list view
11:00 cait       testing bug 29456
11:00 cait       what do i need to do o have the auto renewal notice show up in message preferences?
10:04 ashimema   morning
09:57 cait       so many bug mails...
09:36 ashimema   it's the 'how' that offsets really gives us
09:35 ashimema   or keep it as offsets and only record the actual offsets.. i.e. how Line A effects Line b
09:35 ashimema   it should either be 'account_actions' and keep recording 'creations' and 'adjust increases'..
09:34 ashimema   or.. it's misnamed
09:34 ashimema   the biggest issue with offsets is that it holds a few 'extra' lines I don't think it really should..
09:25 magnuse    \o/
09:25 * cait     waves
09:00 magnuse    Joubu: tried with a more complex example, and i think it makes more sense now. thanks!
08:55 Joubu      magnuse: account_offset links fees and payments
08:45 * magnuse  wonders why we have both accountlines and account_offset tables. isn't it basically the same info in two tables?
08:45 magnuse    \o/
08:03 huginn`    Joubu: The operation succeeded.
08:03 Joubu      @later tell oleonard Could you try again the whole flatpickr patch series please? applying 29478 and friends
08:01 Joubu      I sent her an email
07:58 Joubu      was turned off for most of us (the first accounts we created)
07:56 ashimema   indeed
07:55 Joubu      creating repo should be turned off
07:54 ashimema   I would put money on that just being a mistake
07:54 ashimema   not just account
07:54 ashimema   Wainui actually has her own repo too Joubu
07:54 Joubu      ho, repo you said
07:54 Joubu      dcook: RM and RMaints have an account on Gitea, it's managing push permissions
07:32 wahanui    salut, reiveune
07:32 reiveune   hello
07:20 alex_a     Bonjour
06:56 ashimema   dcook^
06:56 ashimema   Must admit, I've not delved deep on gittea yet for this sort of thing
06:55 ashimema   Indeed, having a full forked repo for every contributor could be a bit big.. but perhaps allowing for branch creation on the main repo and merge requests could work
06:36 ashimema   It was likely a mistake rather than a deliberate action.. I hadn't noticed that she had her own fork on there
06:35 ashimema   Interesting.. not sure how that happened..
02:03 dcook      Probably couldn't have repos for every contributor though..
02:02 dcook      Or a repo rather
02:01 dcook      Ohh Wainui seems to have an account on Gitea... interesting
01:58 dcook      Although I guess we do embed a number of libraries so maybe..
01:58 dcook      That seems unlikely..
01:58 dcook      Looking at https://git.koha-community.org/Koha-community/Koha and I'm surprised that Javascript makes up 45.1% of Koha apparently..
01:58 huginn`    dcook: The operation succeeded.
01:58 dcook      @later tell ashimema It would be interesting to use branches instead of patches.