Time Nick Message 23:59 tuxayo Perfect, that's what we use on BZ 23:59 tuxayo > "relates to". "blocks" and "is blocked by" 23:58 tuxayo Oh and also maybe moving from Pootle to Weblate 23:58 tuxayo > Updating the version of the wiki + getting rid of mailman is already a lot. 23:36 pabloab I wonder if a huge project like GNOME (which moved to GitLab) just don't use that feature. 23:35 pabloab Sure. Sad to hear that abouth GitLab. The only available relationship is "relates to". "blocks" and "is blocked by" only on Premium https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/user/project/issues/related_issues.html#add-a-linked-issue 23:31 tuxayo More importantly, there is really a lack of workforce for that topic. Updating the version of the wiki + getting rid of mailman is already a lot. 23:30 tuxayo Maybe it changed. I recall that a few things where non-libre at first and some time after ended up in the libre version 23:28 tuxayo pabloab: GitLab, certainly not. Last time I checked, dependency between tickets was only doable in the non-libre version of GitLab... 23:28 pabloab tuxayo: There is no consensus to move from the old BZ to the modern GitLab? 21:18 huginn` tuxayo: The operation succeeded. 21:18 tuxayo @later tell ashimema wait it's only the graph part that is missing! There basic feature is actually there! :D https://github.com/go-gitea/gitea/pull/2531 21:05 huginn` tuxayo: The operation succeeded. 21:05 tuxayo @later tell ashimema I think what we are missing the most to switch from BZ to Gitea would be dependencies between tickets. We could push for that with a bounty on https://github.com/go-gitea/gitea/issues/8794 21:01 huginn` tuxayo: The operation succeeded. 21:01 tuxayo @later tell Joubu , oh my post was still a draft :o thanks a lot!!! 18:58 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master build #1807: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 1 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/1807/ 18:33 oleonard-away Manage ILL request.... a whole set of buttons with English labels coming from Illrequest.pm... 17:57 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master build #1806: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 3 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/1806/ 17:56 ashimema Will look at all the date related test failures tomorrow Joubu 17:54 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D12 build #17: STILL UNSTABLE in 56 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D12/17/ 17:28 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D12 build #16: UNSTABLE in 56 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D12/16/ 17:22 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1811: UNSTABLE in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1811/ 17:04 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11_My8 build #683: UNSTABLE in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11_My8/683/ 16:57 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U_Stable build #303: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 0 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U_Stable/303/ 16:57 Joubu there is a workaround if you are stuck 16:56 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24850 major, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to master , Koha::DateUtils ignores offsets in RFC3339 datetimes 16:56 Joubu See bug 24850, last comments 16:56 Joubu So, as you can see master is broken (more precisely date handling for the REST API) 16:54 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11_CPAN build #465: UNSTABLE in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11_CPAN/465/ 16:47 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11_MDB_Latest build #717: UNSTABLE in 51 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11_MDB_Latest/717/ 16:40 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U21 build #14: UNSTABLE in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U21/14/ 16:32 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U20 build #231: FAILURE in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U20/231/ 16:30 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11 build #435: UNSTABLE in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11/435/ 16:06 reiveune bye 15:55 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 25459: Makes barcode position respect units in patron cards layout <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2ef35565481e29200830d0ef8acb4599476b95c3> 15:55 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 27884: Add html support for report mails <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6a45b3d2dc4293cfa4879d42dd3c1ef66590e3a9> 15:55 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 28263: Fix too_many auto renewal message <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3a722d814705f33acf87a653b1f9d2421af96832> 15:55 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 27884: Add tests <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2666f34b0ce8ebf3451b1f9c7436dafb46092912> 15:55 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 29242: Flatpickr - Should autocomplete be turned off? 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15:08 Joubu cait: yes, make sense! 15:05 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded. 15:05 Joubu @later tell tuxayo did you send us the mail you received from the kohacon's organisers? I haven't received it 14:53 cait ashimema, Joubu and others ^ 14:52 cait oleonard: what do you think of https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Talk:Processes_for_KohaCons (tuyayo's work) 14:43 cait sorry... that probably is all a little delayed, just catching up on today's work 14:39 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_D12 build #24: SUCCESS in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_D12/24/ 14:38 cait baground jobs... bag's round jobs? :) 14:37 cait i see that you cc'd yourself :) 14:37 cait kidclamp: any opinion on 29010? 14:36 cait oleonard: ok, imported makes sense - sorry, I was thinking of staged ones 14:35 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_D11 build #108: SUCCESS in 52 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_D11/108/ 14:25 oleonard cait: A record which has been imported is probably still in your catalog unless it was since deleted 14:12 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_D9 build #88: UNSTABLE in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_D9/88/ 13:57 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_U18 build #85: SUCCESS in 1 hr 12 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_U18/85/ 13:54 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_D12 build #23: SUCCESS in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_D12/23/ 13:50 cait or do you mean imported vs. staged? then I withdraw... 13:50 cait but random searches from z39.50 seem more lunlikely 13:50 cait i can imagine workflows for uplaoding a data set froma vendor and wanting to use it in cataloguing 13:49 cait oleonard-away: i think imported make more sense there than the z39.50 ones 13:48 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_D10 build #131: SUCCESS in 1 hr 4 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_D10/131/ 13:43 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_U21 build #14: SUCCESS in 58 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_U21/14/ 13:42 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_U20 build #94: SUCCESS in 58 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_U20/94/ 13:28 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_U16 build #92: SUCCESS in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_U16/92/ 13:20 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_U_Stable build #84: SUCCESS in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_U_Stable/84/ 13:08 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29391 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, ASSIGNED , Improve output of reservoir search 13:08 oleonard Bug 29391 12:56 tcohen Mr. Brown would've cleaned all the scene 12:56 oleonard What do you think Tarantino would have thought about excluding imported records from reservoir search results? 12:55 tcohen hahaa, a great movie 12:55 oleonard In your humble opinion 12:54 magnuse s/move/movie/ 12:54 magnuse i think reservoir dogs is a move by quentin tarantino 12:54 oleonard Shower me with your reservoir opinions 12:54 magnuse cait: i did, but it made no difference 12:21 oleonard I wonder if there's any reason to show imported records in the "Records found in reservoir" table 11:51 cait magnuse: maybe you need to identify? 11:46 magnuse ashimema: looks like i lost it 11:33 Joubu or do we go with LONGTEXT directly? 11:33 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29386 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , background jobs table data field is a TEXT which is too small 11:32 Joubu bug 29386 - would it make sense to switch to MEDIUMTEXT then later LONGTEXT if still not enough? 11:24 oleonard Hi tcohen 11:13 tcohen hola #koha 10:57 Joubu tuxayo: I published 20.05.17 release notes, it was still a draft 10:34 * oleonard wonders who magnuse wants to kick :D 10:31 ashimema I thought you were one lol 10:27 magnuse op? ops? 10:27 magnuse looks like he os the only ops in the channel? 10:26 ashimema ? 10:26 magnuse bag: can you make some more ops, please? 09:36 cait ashimema is the accounts expert... but fines are also one of my things... sadly 09:32 * ashimema apologies for any typos.. I was on the school run 09:31 hugoagud HI, that makes a lot of sense... thank you very much.. sorry for the delay I was out of the desktop ;) 09:23 mtj Joubu: no, no OOM that i know of :) 09:20 ashimema Hope that makes sense 09:20 ashimema Decreases were really designed for calculate at check-in fine.. I e the scripts run daily . Someone returns the item on a closed day.. the script runs and increments the fine.. next day staff do a backdated return and the fine is recalculated for the previous day.. thus decreased again. 09:18 ashimema The offsets, decrease/increase just reflect the change since the last run.. so if your rules have changed to reduce the amount per day and then the script runs.. it'll result in a decrease. 09:17 ashimema If it's not returned the fine rules come into play and the fine is recalculated from scratch with every run of the script 09:17 ashimema You 'fix' the fine by marking the item as 'returned'.. though that could of course be one of the lost states 09:16 ashimema What cait said basically 08:58 cait if you want to freeze the fine, you'll have to reutrn the item and check it out again 08:57 cait have a look at your fine settings in the circulation rules 08:57 cait it will be recalculatedwith every run of the script 08:57 cait as long as the item is not return, adjusting the fine with SQL won't work 08:57 cait hugoagud: koha calculates the fine everyday according to your circulation rules 08:57 Joubu I should have a look at the DB, one day.. 08:56 cait hea is up to 17.065 + 600 from last month :) 08:48 Joubu Hi hugoagud, ashimema is our "accounts" expert 08:35 hugoagud I am trying to adjust a fine directly from mysql, but koha adjusts the fine with overdue_decrease 08:34 hugoagud good morning, I have an issue with fines.pl, anybody knows when and why fines.pl generate overdue_decrease? 08:34 Joubu did it happen again? 08:32 mtj i wonder if splitting the koha git repo could help with the gitea OOM problem? 08:29 ashimema one thing at a time 😉 08:29 ashimema yup 08:29 Joubu to move 08:29 Joubu we already have the mailing list and the wiki (I also have a "split and shrink git repo" somewhere) 08:28 ashimema I know the strengths of bugzilla too 08:28 ashimema understandable 08:27 cait and with the amount of bugs we have, that is a real plus for me 08:27 cait they all usually appear to have quite basic searches 08:27 cait haven't seen that in any issue tracker so far 08:27 cait I really like Bugzilla's strong search capabilities 08:25 ashimema anywho.. soapbox moment done 08:25 ashimema plus, bz just "looks dated" so puts new developers off the project as a whole 08:25 ashimema and commenting on code out of context all the time is a pain. 08:25 * ashimema likes branches and merges requests.. I find the huge numbers of 'you attached this' messages in bugzilla really distracting and difficult 08:24 * ashimema would love to see issues handled through gittea instead of bugzilla.. but that's any entirely different discussion. 08:21 Joubu I am still waiting for BibLibre to confirm they will provide us the server 08:21 Joubu mtj, tuxayo: It would be a move from mailman to discourse. I am "on it". Not at the moment but will be back to it after the release. 08:19 ashimema mornin' #koha 07:31 wahanui niihau, reiveune 07:31 reiveune hello 07:28 cait bbl 07:11 * cait waves 05:31 mtj i think importing a mailman repo into discourse, is probably a much more 'solved' problem than into gitea 05:29 mtj i think using github would be a no-go, as we cant self-host it 03:41 tuxayo Here is my example of issue tracker powered ML&forum : https://github.com/liberapay/salon#how-this-salon-works 03:38 tuxayo (assuming the OOM of Gitea are solvable!) 03:38 tuxayo But actually, would there be a significant advantage to justify the hosting of Discourse compared to using our Gitea? Considering that you don't lack of things to do :P 03:38 tuxayo I wasn't serious about it since there was (and is more than before!) hope that someone could have the time to setup and maintain a Discourse. 03:29 mtj hmmm, thats an interesting usage of a self-hosted gitlab 03:28 tuxayo For many project forges are really great, host/find and instance of Gitea or Gitlab, get a git server, an issues tracker, a forum&ML and a wiki! 03:28 tuxayo Because the issue tracker is a forum and a mailing list. Just create a few projects without a repo and only the issue tracker and voilà . I've seen projects do this 03:27 tuxayo For the record (or other projects than Koha), in case we don't have the time resources to host a Discouse I was starting to think of a fallback with our forge, Gitea. 03:21 tuxayo I think that's the missing thing. Because otherwise the idea has been well received. 03:20 tuxayo :D 03:20 mtj i'd be keen to help setting up a discourse 03:17 tuxayo *via email 03:17 mtj ah yes, that makes sense 03:17 tuxayo It's even possible to answer email 03:17 tuxayo mtj discourse can work as a mailing list. IIUC: Make account, go to a category (~sub forum) and subscribe to it selecting to be notified to everything 03:12 mtj is it possible to run both discouse and mailman at the same time? - or would we need to do a hard-switch to discourse? 03:11 mtj hi pabloab, tuxayo - i really like the idea of discouse software :) 02:16 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master build #1805: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 3 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/1805/