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21:25 wahanui      Congratulations!
21:25 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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15:16 oleonard     If only there were an alternative.
15:09 thd          Schools are usually an excellent place to catch something at least for parents and the parents friends.
15:07 thd          Schools are usually an excelle
14:58 oleonard     Thanks tcohen  and ashimema. They're vaccinated, so I'm not too worried, but I would prefer they were at school!
14:57 tcohen       oleonard: crossing fingers as well!
14:57 tcohen       glad to hear you're fine, thd
14:53 thd          I am surviving.  The storm had a relatively low effect on the block where I live.  Some of my possessions stowed elsewhere may be lost to excess water.  The new landlord is redoing the roof but he said he has to borrow money for such expenses.
14:49 * ashimema   wonders what his last antibody tests results were.. seem to be taking a long time to come through.
14:48 * ashimema   crosses fingers for oleonard
14:48 oleonard     Sorry I missed the meeting, folks... out getting my kids tested for COVID :(
14:48 tcohen       BTW, how are you doing thd? I forgot to ask
14:47 thd          At least your computer and brain has power.  I have a client where computers were likely zapped by a power interruption and surge from the fifth strongest recorded storm to hit the continental US a week ago.
14:45 tuxayo       That's a good sign to move back to Wayland to have things working. It used to be the contrary.
14:43 * ashimema   goes back to cleaning up accounts tests.. they're a mess
14:43 huginn       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28959 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , virtualshelves.category is really a boolean
14:43 tcohen       anyone fancy looking at bug 28959
14:43 tcohen       but on the desktop I don't need that :-D
14:43 tcohen       I had moved back to X11 to use some gestures
14:43 * ashimema   likes wayland
14:42 tcohen       I switched back to Wayland and all seems fine
14:42 ashimema     hugs
14:42 * tcohen     is fighting not having installed an LTS Ubuntu he
14:41 ashimema     one disadvantage of working from home.. no air con ;)
14:41 ashimema     it's warm here today..
14:40 tuxayo       (also ouch for the brain overheat ^^")
14:40 tuxayo       ouch
14:40 tuxayo       > computer keeps over heating
14:39 ashimema     as does my brain
14:39 ashimema     sorry.. computer keeps over heating today
14:39 huginn       Log:            https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/development_irc_meeting_8_september_2021.2021-09-08-14.04.log.html
14:39 huginn       Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/development_irc_meeting_8_september_2021.2021-09-08-14.04.txt
14:39 huginn       Minutes:        https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/development_irc_meeting_8_september_2021.2021-09-08-14.04.html
14:39 huginn       Meeting ended Wed Sep  8 14:39:33 2021 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
14:39 tuxayo       #endmeeting
14:39 ashimema     hi
14:38 tuxayo       #info Next meeting: 29 September 2021, 14 UTC
14:38 tcohen       ouch
14:37 tuxayo       Planning for the 29th also works well
14:37 thd          Having a meeting in the midst of a major national Koha conference is probably not best.
14:36 thd          I still have to look at why the Nginx default does not link to the tarball directory the way Apache had done.
14:35 tuxayo       Is that much interference to have the meeting during the koha-US conf?
14:34 tuxayo       great :)
14:34 tuxayo       > As far as version control yes
14:33 thd          As far as version control yes.  I have had mistakes from retrospective work where I appeared to have over a thousand changed files because of a mistake in rearranging the files for the initial commit.
14:33 tuxayo       #info 2021 koha-US conference happening in two weeks! https://koha-us.org/conference2021/
14:32 tuxayo       so Next meeting: 22 September 2021, 14 UTC ?
14:32 cait         sorry for missing the meeting... too many phone calls today
14:30 tuxayo       Are these the last pieces of the puzzle?
14:29 thd          I may move unmodified extension files to the binary tarball.
14:29 tuxayo       #topic Set time of next meeting
14:28 tuxayo       Thanks for the update, best luck with the remaining stuff to be sorted out.
14:26 thd          I had too much in Git and used many symlinks which had to be syphoned off to a tarball of binary files.
14:25 thd          However, some files would have moved to much which left a challenge of rearranging the first commit.
14:25 tuxayo       Do you still have work not in git yet?
14:24 tuxayo       Good to have you for some updates on the wiki roadmap project ^^
14:23 thd          Obviously that would have been easier if I had started by committing to git instead of doing retrospectively.
14:23 tuxayo       great :)
14:22 thd          I have been through many cycles of starting over quickly with git to attain proper separation of version control for wiki database migration and upgrade.
14:22 tuxayo       No RM or assistant, no other RMaint, or QA member, not action from last meeting
14:21 thd          Ok.
14:20 tuxayo       I'm grouping them all now ^^
14:19 thd          Are you skipping the agenda items for low attendance?
14:18 tuxayo       Does anyone have another topic before closing?
14:15 tuxayo       This is important, it's the most important security release since a few cycles.
14:14 tuxayo       #link https://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2021-September/046687.html
14:14 tuxayo       #link https://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2021-September/046686.html
14:13 tuxayo       #info The koha-devel and general mailing list also contains instructions for directly applying the patches for installations not using the Debian packages.
14:12 tuxayo       #info Update! The last security update has been directly released in the Debian packages.
14:12 tuxayo       Joubu while sending apologies for not being able to attend left and important message:
14:10 henryb       Nothing from me
14:10 tuxayo       Anyone have something?
14:09 tuxayo       #topic Announcements
14:06 thd          #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City [mostly above water again]
14:05 henryb       #info Henry Bolshaw, House of Lords Library, UK
14:05 tuxayo       #info Victor Grousset, Tuxayo Global Services Inc. ,France
14:04 tuxayo       #topic Introductions
14:04 huginn       The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_8_september_2021'
14:04 huginn       Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
14:04 huginn       Meeting started Wed Sep  8 14:04:27 2021 UTC.  The chair is tuxayo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
14:04 tuxayo       #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 8 September 2021
13:57 wahanui      qa_team is cait, dcook, amoyano, ashimema, marcelr, kohaputti, jajm, tcohen, kidclamp, khall, tuxayo, petrova, nugged
13:57 tuxayo       qa_team?
13:56 wahanui      rmaints is fridolin, khall, kidclamp, wainui and tuxayo
13:56 tuxayo       rmaints?
13:56 tuxayo       meeting in 3 min!
12:43 ashimema     good call
12:10 magnuse      ashimema: i'll do some proper testing before i submit a patch, probably tomorrow ( wonder if $line->amount on line 90 is wrong too)
10:34 oleonard     Hi #koha
09:42 cait         magnuse++ ashimema++
09:40 ashimema     nice one :)
09:39 magnuse      i can do a patch after lunch
09:39 magnuse      perfection is boring :-)
09:37 ashimema     please do feel free to make that comment on a bug and I'll get a fix submitted.. (or submit one and I'll SO/QA it 😉 )
09:36 ashimema     sorry it's not perfect
09:36 ashimema     exactly
09:35 magnuse      ah, saw your last comment now, ashimema
09:33 magnuse      (if amount = 220, amountsoutstanding = 200)
09:32 magnuse      so if a patron had a fine of 220, then paid 20... will they be left with a credit of 20 when the 220 is written off?
09:31 ashimema     if you want a quick and dirty fix.. just replace the 'amount' accessors on lines 74 and 77 with 'amountoutstanding'
09:31 ashimema     my bad
09:31 ashimema     but the 'writeoff all' rather than 'writeoff outstanding' wasn't
09:30 ashimema     I think that bit was deliberate
09:30 ashimema     it doesn't "fix" the fine
09:30 ashimema     so if a fine is still accruing it will continue to accrue after
09:30 ashimema     it's also "dumb" in so much as it doesn't account for 'status'..
09:29 ashimema     that feels a little wrong actually :(
09:29 ashimema     it appears to writeoff 'amount' rather than 'amountoutstanding'
09:29 ashimema     interesting
09:28 ashimema     :)
09:27 magnuse      running without --confirm seems ok, at least
09:23 * magnuse    wonders if that script will work on a 20.11.x install...
09:22 magnuse      and if a fine is already paid in part or in full it will handle that properly?
09:18 magnuse      cool, thanks!
09:12 ashimema     magnuse: ^
09:12 ashimema     you can pass the result file to the script
09:12 ashimema     so if you can write a report to get the accountline id's you want
09:11 ashimema     you can pass it a file though...
09:11 ashimema     there's not 'between' handling though.. just 'before'
09:10 ashimema     but.. it'll work for other use cases
09:10 ashimema     and finally deleting the borrower from the database forever
09:10 ashimema     then moving borrowers to deleted
09:10 ashimema     giving you fine grained control of writing off debts
09:10 ashimema     the idea being that it runs in the cron before running delete_borrowers and finally cleanup_database
09:09 ashimema     using that script
09:09 ashimema     you can filter on type of debt and before a certain date
09:09 huginn       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27049 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to master , Add a script to bulk writeoff debts
09:09 ashimema     bug 27049
09:08 ashimema     correct
09:07 magnuse      hm, guess i never understood accruing fines... is it a fine where the document is still on loan, so new fines are accruing?
08:42 cait         but not sure about the overdues - you'd only want to update the non-accruing
08:42 cait         i think there is a waive fines script in the latest version now
08:37 magnuse      if a library wants to forgive all OVERDUE fines generated between date1 and date2, there is no tool or script to help with that, right?
08:32 magnuse      kia ora cait
07:56 cait         noone here too :)
07:36 cait         ah ok, Tags looks better
07:36 cait         I get an empty page when looking at "Releases"
07:36 cait         hm is there a way to see the releases on the new git?
07:13 magnuse      hiya tuxayo - yeah the ouch was for the builds
06:18 tuxayo       hi magnuse  :)
06:18 tuxayo       the builds?
06:18 magnuse      ouch?
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