Time  Nick     Message
06:05 alex_a   Bonjour
06:48 reiveune hello
07:42 Joubu    nugged: can you have a look at https://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-translate/2021-July/002871.html and https://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-translate/2021-July/002868.html please?
07:42 nugged   on it
07:43 Joubu    tuxayo: you will certainly need to ping individuals instead of the koha-translate list.
07:43 Joubu    tuxayo: like you could take the 3 translators for the languages with problems. A reminder of how {count} should be translated would be nice too.
07:44 Joubu    thx nugged!
07:44 cait     if someoen needs permissions added, I can do that
07:44 cait     on pootle - new translators that haven't had the "reviewer" one assigned yet
07:46 tuxayo   Joubu: hi :) Yes, I'll send a separate email to the last translators on Pootle.
07:46 tuxayo   that's what you are refering with this? «you could take the 3 translators for the languages»
07:47 tuxayo   «reminder of how {count} should be translated» oops, I mentioned it in some emails but not it all.
07:51 tuxayo   «instead of the koha-translate list.» Oh, right. Too much noise for low results. I guess it's even worse for the general list. The hope was to get new people on translation. I might keep that as last resort if I can't reach people directly.
08:00 Joubu    tuxayo: I sent that already to the list https://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-translate/2020-December/002814.html
08:01 Joubu    for 20.11.00
08:02 tuxayo   Thanks :) I'll reuse the text when reaching contributors.
08:02 tuxayo   This plural in two strings seems to have a quite high error rate
08:04 tuxayo   oh, Pootle actually reports a correct use of plurals as a critical error. «Python brace placeholders »
08:04 tuxayo   I'll reach Bernardo about that. Hopefully that's the cause of many of the mistakes.
08:06 nugged   Joubu: Russian (native/literature) and Belarusian (a little) as well if needed, are those emails for these two also? ( /me looking into that list through web interface meanwhile)
08:06 Joubu    tuxayo: you cannot IIRC, either you hide all the errors or you have some false positive
08:06 Joubu    nugged: nope
08:07 tuxayo   Like on general Pootle config we can't tune the warnings? :o
08:09 tuxayo   nugged: Thanks :D If you have reviewer rights in Russian check out also this email. I could have fixed it but for some reason can't do suggestions.
08:09 tuxayo   https://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-translate/2021-July/002872.html
08:13 Joubu    I think I've searched for that problem and didn't find anything, feel free to have a look
08:15 tuxayo   Ok, I hope to find something. Otherwise the introduction of plurals might never widely get used correctly.
08:43 cait     hm a note to the wiki would be good i think at least
08:43 cait     that the warnings can be ignored/deacticated
08:43 cait     if you lcick on them, you can - but they tend to come back
08:43 cait     i just did that without thinking
08:43 cait     i mean youc an deactivate them for individual strings
08:44 cait     as a translator... but it could scare people off, like you aid
08:46 Joubu    maybe we could hide it with some JS?
09:01 tuxayo   That would be great if such customizations can be made if Pootle doesn't let hide errors.
09:01 tuxayo   The wiki is likely not enough to reach a big share of contributors. New + existing ones.
09:01 tuxayo   But a note would hurt indeed
09:01 tuxayo   *wouldn't
09:07 tuxayo   Translation is hard. Quite the rabbit hole when trying to avoid having the manual monthly work when doing releases. >_<
09:11 mkuhn    Hello Community
10:22 Leander  Hi
10:24 Joubu    Hello Leander
10:26 Leander  Just a dumb newbie question: koha is fully operated over the web, right? there is no binary client to be installed on librarian's desktop computers, right?
10:26 Joubu    correct
10:26 Leander  thanks
10:27 Joubu    there is a firefox plugin for offline operations however
11:21 * cait   waves at Leander
11:22 * cait   also waves at oleonard
11:22 oleonard Hi!
12:34 tcohen   morning
15:21 reiveune bye
15:26 pastebot "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "What is all this stuff in the action log for holds? Why so much?" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1906
15:29 caroline oleonard: like for items, it stores all db columns
15:32 Joubu    caroline: it's the dates, there is a bug
15:32 Joubu    looking for it
15:33 Joubu    ha, it was for oleonard
15:33 Joubu    bug 28700
15:33 huginn   Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28700 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, stalkernoid, Needs Signoff , "Unblessed" method in Object.pm has blessed values for keys in some cases
15:34 Joubu    and bug 28692
15:34 huginn   Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28692 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, stalkernoid, Needs Signoff , Reduce DB action_log table size
15:36 oleonard Interesting, some quite recent activity on it. Thanks Joubu
15:36 cait     :)
15:36 cait     Joubu++
15:36 oleonard (ran across it in 20.05.x FWIW)
15:37 oleonard Digging through the logs to try to prove that Koha didn't "magically" cancel someone's hold.
15:39 cait     aah
15:40 Joubu    oleonard: wait, there is a bug for that
15:40 Joubu    :D no, kidding, but I would not bet anything it cannot happen :D
15:41 oleonard Bug 30928 - Trans-dimensional dark magic cursed my reserves table
15:41 huginn   Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30928 could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
15:41 cait     lol
15:46 * cait   is happy to report that she turned up no bugs (yet) in extensive email testing today in 20.11
15:53 cait     hm ok, found an issue... order emails no longer print all orders - only the first
15:54 cait     *sighs*
15:57 cait     maybe something for fresh eyes tomorrow - bye all
16:06 cait     bug 28725
16:06 huginn   Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28725 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , ACQORDER email no longer prints more than one order line
16:10 oleonard The "Koha User Restrictions" mail to the Koha list is odd... The behavior described seems to be the opposite of what I'm used to. DO we have an option to block holds by restricted patrons?
16:10 cait     hm i thought we did have the overwrite one on patron categoreis
16:10 cait     (ignore me, i ma not here anymore)
16:11 cait     "                                              Choose whether patrons of this category be  blocked from public catalog actions such as renewing and placing holds  when their cards have expired."
16:11 cait     expiration - different animal?
16:15 tcohen   t/db_dependent/Reserves.t .. 61/68 No reserves HOLD letter transported by print at /kohadevbox/koha/C4/Letters.pm line 632.
16:15 tcohen   Could not find a letter called 'HOLD' for print in the 'reserves' module at /kohadevbox/koha/C4/Reserves.pm line 1881.
16:15 tcohen   ^^ can anyone help me understand what's goign on?
16:15 tcohen   :-D
16:18 tuxayo   tcohen: the output doesn't tell which line in the test file is failing?
16:19 tcohen   it is more conceptual
16:19 tcohen   there's no transport defined for the letter it seems
16:20 tcohen   I'm re-testing in master
16:20 tcohen   this is a complex patchset
16:20 tcohen   but doesn't change anything about that!
16:20 tuxayo   email, letter, sms. That's what a transport is?
16:20 tcohen   25260
16:20 tcohen   will submit the latest version (rebased, things fixed)
16:20 tcohen   in a minute
16:21 tcohen   still two failing tests I could use some help with ;-)
16:21 tcohen   ^^ tuxayo
16:22 tuxayo   Will take a look after finishing spamming people so they fix translations ^^"
16:22 tuxayo   Not sure I'll find something in 25260 but who knows.
16:23 tcohen   it is too big to not find things :-D
16:23 tuxayo   lol
20:27 caroline ashimema around?