Time Nick Message 00:36 tuxayo https://metacpan.org/pod/Object::Pad 00:36 tuxayo > WARNING This module is still experimental. 00:36 tuxayo ^^ 00:37 tuxayo Some uses of the word experimental are too cautious 00:37 tuxayo > The parts that currently exist do seem to work reliably 00:37 tuxayo Ok, not for this 02:47 tuxayo https://translate.koha-community.org 02:47 tuxayo {õ_õ} 02:47 tuxayo Server Error 02:47 tuxayo A server error has occurred. Thank you for your patience. 02:47 tuxayo At least there is a emoticon :D 06:08 marcelr hi #koha 06:09 reiveune hello 06:59 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28606: Remove warning from C4::Auth 887 <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=af7e41d1142573666d302a8475274ea58e5c99f4> 06:59 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17600: Standardize our EXPORT_OK <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9d6d641d1f8b77271800f43bc027b651f9aea52b> 07:02 alex_a Bonjour 07:20 jase_ hello 07:21 jase_ I would like to know koha elasticsearch work on koha version 3.14 07:22 marcelr you should not work with koha 3.14 07:22 jase_ Starting version for elasticsearch 07:23 marcelr we are at koha 21.05 there is only some support for 19.11 07:23 marcelr 3.14 is far too old 07:23 jase_ OK. 07:25 jase_ I have installed new version 20.05 with elasticsearch working fine. But i have huge data 20GB need to import on new koha with old biblionumbers 07:27 jase_ unfortunatly when i rebuld a record with bulkmarc which is creating new bilionumber. Have you any idea? 07:28 marcelr sounds like you should write small script to correct them? 07:28 Joubu you do you import the records? 07:28 jase_ please share how to do 07:28 marcelr bbiab 07:29 Joubu reinstall from scratch, load the DB dump, execute the DB update 07:30 jase_ yes i want to import all records into new system with bulkmarc or any tool. should keep biblionumbers with old number. 07:31 Joubu Don't you need the patrons, checkouts, etc.? 07:31 ashimema why don't you upgrade jase_ 07:32 ashimema Koha's upgrade process has been pretty darn smooth for years 07:33 jase_ For examble bulkmarcimport.pl -b -k=999cd -commit=1000 -file=/tmp/biblios.mrc -v -v which is creating new biblionumber instead of old number in .mrc file. 07:34 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11 build #338: UNSTABLE in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11/338/ 07:35 ashimema what Joubu said.. why are you exporting your bibs and importing them into a new system 07:35 ashimema you should dump the database, restore that and run updatedatabase 07:36 ashimema Joubu, what's the best/simplest way to rebase patches for the EXPORT stuff.. 07:36 ashimema run perlimport? 07:37 jase_ Beacuse i am using old koha 3.14. In new koha database structure is diffrent thats why i am importing 07:37 ashimema it doesn't matter 07:37 ashimema updatedatabase will fix all that for you 07:38 ashimema that's the point of it 07:38 ashimema it will run from any 3.x version through a series of steps to upgrade your database 07:38 ashimema unless you've got loads of customisation at the DB level it 'just works' 07:38 jase_ Can you please expain how to do. 07:39 jase_ I have last weekly dump(.sql) data 07:39 ashimema so restore the dump over the top of your new Koha install 07:39 jase_ Ok 07:39 ashimema then run updatedatabase.pl.. make a cup of tea.. it'll take a while with that many upgrade steps 07:40 Joubu ashimema: manually 07:40 ashimema what type of install are you using.. package? 07:40 Joubu ashimema: read the commit message, I've tried to explain a bit 07:40 ashimema okies, thanks Joubu 07:40 ashimema just reading ti :) 07:40 jase_ I installed via package. 07:41 jase_ i am using debian 10 07:41 jase_ updatedatabase.pl need to sent any parameter while running? 07:42 jase_ Like instance name or? 07:42 ashimema so that command you'll want it 07:42 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10_MDB_Latest build #632: UNSTABLE in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10_MDB_Latest/632/ 07:44 ashimema alternatively you could `koha-shell instance1` then run the script directly.. but I don't think there's any benefit to doing it that way round. 07:46 ashimema beware, for a version this old it will take a long time... we do things like upgrade the schema from utf8 to utf8mb4 and we add indexes and things.. those take time to process.. but in general the data is better for it and it's the easiest route to goal for getting a working system back with all your users, history etc all in tact. 07:49 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17600: Fix tests <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f5bf73f72262844a840f6d11c96cfde08a8471a8> 07:49 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #609: UNSTABLE in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/609/ 07:49 jase_ after updating updatedatabase.pl, need to run koha-upgrade-schema? 07:49 ashimema no, they do the same 07:49 ashimema the later is just the packages way of running it. 07:49 ashimema koha-upgrade-schema calls updatedatabase internally 07:50 jase_ Ok 07:50 jase_ i will check it and update you. It will take some time because i have 20GB data file. 07:57 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U_Stable build #209: UNSTABLE in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U_Stable/209/ 08:05 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U20 build #143: UNSTABLE in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U20/143/ 08:21 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10_CPAN build #377: UNSTABLE in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10_CPAN/377/ 08:36 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 08:36 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10_CPAN build #378: FIXED in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10_CPAN/378/ 08:47 Joubu @later tell mtj any ideas how we could fix 28666? 08:47 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 08:47 Joubu @later tell mtj properly, I mean :) 08:47 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 08:53 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 08:53 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10_MDB_Latest build #633: FIXED in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10_MDB_Latest/633/ 08:58 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1705: SUCCESS in 1 hr 9 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1705/ 08:58 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 08:58 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #610: FIXED in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/610/ 09:06 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 09:06 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U_Stable build #210: FIXED in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U_Stable/210/ 09:20 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 09:20 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11 build #339: FIXED in 1 hr 1 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11/339/ 09:36 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10_MDB_Latest build #634: SUCCESS in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10_MDB_Latest/634/ 09:38 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11 build #340: SUCCESS in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11/340/ 09:46 Joubu gmcharlt could we get your opinion on bug 28617? 09:46 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28617 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Is misc/kohalib.pl still useful? 09:48 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 09:48 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U20 build #144: FIXED in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U20/144/ 09:49 jim_ hello 09:49 jim_ anyone here 09:52 Joubu yes 10:06 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U_Stable build #211: SUCCESS in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U_Stable/211/ 10:26 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U20 build #145: SUCCESS in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U20/145/ 11:40 vfernandes hi #koha 11:40 oleonard Hi vfernandes 11:42 vfernandes can someone help with a performance question? 11:43 vfernandes our Koha isn't dealing well with records having hundreds of items 11:44 vfernandes for example getting one of those records via OAI-PMH is extremally slow 11:46 oleonard I don't know how to help but I do know that there are several somewhat similar bugs: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=summary%3Aslow&list_id=378464 11:47 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master build #1707: SUCCESS in 1 hr 4 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/1707/ 12:04 Joubu @later tell mtj did you rename Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest with Koha_Master_D10_MDB_Latest? It broke the dashboard 12:04 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 12:04 Joubu @later tell mtj Shouldn't we also adjust Koha_Master_D9_My8? 12:04 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 12:06 Joubu @later tell mtj Koha_Master_D9_My8 is already using buster actually 12:06 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 12:07 Joubu @later tell mtj I will deal with that! 12:07 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 12:15 ashimema dang this export bug can cause some fun with rebases 12:16 Joubu the conflicts should be easy to solve 12:16 ashimema mm.. it's where conflicts aren't caught that is causing fun 12:16 ashimema example.. I wanted to build something atop the MARC Holdings bug 12:17 ashimema but with new modules and things added.. it needs a bunch of cleanup to just make it work again 12:17 ashimema which is understandable 12:17 ashimema but not something I wanted to have to dig into 12:18 Joubu I can help if you want me to 12:18 ashimema its in your queue.. but I know you're super busy with that queue so won't distract you 12:18 ashimema I'll dig through.. I'm sure I'll catch it all 12:42 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master build #1708: SUCCESS in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/1708/ 12:48 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_U16 build #27: SUCCESS in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_U16/27/ 12:50 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_D11 build #34: SUCCESS in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_D11/34/ 13:09 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_U20 build #30: SUCCESS in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_U20/30/ 13:10 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_U_Stable build #27: SUCCESS in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_U_Stable/27/ 13:22 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_D9 build #24: SUCCESS in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_D9/24/ 13:22 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_U18 build #26: SUCCESS in 1 hr 7 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_U18/26/ 13:27 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_D11 build #35: SUCCESS in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_D11/35/ 13:55 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_U16 build #28: SUCCESS in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_U16/28/ 14:08 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_D9 build #25: SUCCESS in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_D9/25/ 14:11 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_U18 build #27: SUCCESS in 1 hr 0 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_U18/27/ 14:12 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_U20 build #31: SUCCESS in 1 hr 2 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_U20/31/ 14:26 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_D11 build #36: SUCCESS in 1 hr 0 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_D11/36/ 14:26 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_U20 build #32: SUCCESS in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_U20/32/ 14:34 reiveune bye 14:48 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_U18 build #28: SUCCESS in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_U18/28/ 15:03 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_D11 build #37: SUCCESS in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_D11/37/ 15:08 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_U_Stable build #28: SUCCESS in 57 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_U_Stable/28/ 15:12 jim_ hello anyone here 15:14 oleonard jim_: Instead of asking if anyone is here you can ask your question, and if anyone is around to respond they will 15:19 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_U16 build #29: SUCCESS in 1 hr 7 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_U16/29/ 15:20 jim_ I asked before 15:26 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_D11 build #38: SUCCESS in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_D11/38/ 15:47 koha-jenkins Project Koha_21.05_D9 build #26: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 21 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.05_D9/26/ 16:22 tuxayo @later tell caroline_catlady hi :) in fr_CA there are suggestions to fix things that give a false positive when releasing: https://translate.koha-community.org/fr_CA/translate/#search=PERL&sfields=source,target&soptions=case 16:22 huginn tuxayo: The operation succeeded. 19:15 oleonard It seems strange to me that you can mark a checkout note "seen" but it doesn't really have any consequence. 19:50 oleonard Thinking about checkout notes because Bug 28720 19:50 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28720 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Update the process of adding a checkout note in the OPAC 20:04 gmcharlt Joubu: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28617#c6 20:04 huginn Bug 28617: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Is misc/kohalib.pl still useful? 20:04 oleonard Hi gmcharlt 20:04 gmcharlt hi oleonard 20:05 oleonard Hey gmcharlt I had a cataloging question the other day I wonder if you might be able to answer 20:05 gmcharlt go for it 20:06 oleonard In MARC frameworks you can mark a tag as mandatory, which the interface interprets as "at least one subfield must be filled." This seems odd to me because it feels more likely that a specific subfield will be mandatory. Is there a valid use-case for "at least one subfield?" 20:08 gmcharlt oleonard: yes, but it's not common 20:08 gmcharlt e.g., from the LC documentation, a valid 245 without an $a: 245 00 $kLetter,$f1901 March 6,$bDublin, to Henrik Ibsen, Kristiana [Oslo]. 20:09 oleonard Cool, thanks for putting my mind at ease 20:09 gmcharlt well, "uncommon" probably depends on what you collect, I suppose. A library of letters would have few titles, I guess 22:19 stallings Hello! Simple issue that has been giving me trouble: I'm running 21.05 (package) on Debian with unique domains for OPAC and intranet (library.library.com and libstaff.library.com) until recently, both have worked. Now, though, I can only access the staff page by adding the port number (8080) after the url. If I do not, I get "It Works!" I've been all over the koha-sites.conf and library.conf files, but nothing seems to solve it.