Time Nick Message 17:17 reiveune bye 15:54 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10_CPAN build #335: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 9 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10_CPAN/335/ 15:27 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1658: SUCCESS in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1658/ 15:27 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #594: SUCCESS in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/594/ 15:17 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U_Stable build #175: UNSTABLE in 58 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U_Stable/175/ 15:08 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #576: SUCCESS in 1 hr 11 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/576/ 15:02 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11 build #298: SUCCESS in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11/298/ 14:53 * thd sleeps a little ... 14:45 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #593: SUCCESS in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/593/ 14:45 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1657: SUCCESS in 1 hr 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1657/ 14:39 tuxayo oh ok, it's release_tools 14:39 Joubu enhancement from the RM, it's blocker for the release ;) 14:39 tuxayo enhancement? 14:39 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28386 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Replace dev_map.yaml from release_tools with .mailmap 14:39 Joubu and bug 28386, ashimema will have a look but maybe additional eyes are needed 14:38 tuxayo I'll ask for a test plan in the ticket (if anyone know, feel free to add one), I know almost nothing about LDAP but I have hope ^^ 14:37 ashimema ldap xml is funky in place 14:37 ashimema ack.. I should probably have spotted that one! 14:37 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28385 critical, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , ldap server configuration broken since migration from XML::Simple 14:37 Joubu and, eventually, if you have some time after that, there are a blocker for the release. Bug 28385 14:36 ashimema :) 14:36 Joubu please guys, the release notes, the technical release notes, and the 21.11 roadmap <3 14:36 * ashimema gets back to the brain breaking enhancement a customer has asked for 14:35 fridolin thank Joubu 14:35 * thd will post another wiki DB migration and update next week with many fixes. 14:35 tuxayo thanks Joubu for chairing, thanks everyone 14:35 ashimema thanks Joubu 14:35 ashimema +1 14:35 huginn Log: https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/development_irc_meeting_19_may_2021.2021-05-19-14.02.log.html 14:35 huginn Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/development_irc_meeting_19_may_2021.2021-05-19-14.02.txt 14:35 huginn Minutes: https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/development_irc_meeting_19_may_2021.2021-05-19-14.02.html 14:35 huginn Meeting ended Wed May 19 14:35:14 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 14:35 Joubu #endmeeting 14:35 Joubu #info Next meeting: 2 June 2021, 14 UTC 14:34 Joubu #topic Set time of next meeting 14:34 oleonard Same. 14:34 * thd needs more sleep at the moment 14:33 thd Sleep and eating some mushy mush helps with brain mush ;) 14:32 ashimema hehe 14:32 ashimema mush 14:32 ashimema Too close to end of cycle for me.. my brain is 14:32 Joubu we can discuss anything you want now :) 14:31 Joubu #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) 14:31 Joubu #action kidclamp Ask the ML for additional info about how to implement opt-out for notices. One idea would be to have "My message" at the OPAC (postponed) 14:30 Joubu * kidclamp Ask the ML for additional info about how to implement opt-out for notices. One idea would be to have "My message" at the OPAC (postponed) 14:30 ashimema hugs 14:30 ashimema so one last postpone ;) 14:30 ashimema kinda thought the next dev meeting was next cycle.. last meeting.. oops 14:30 Joubu #action ashimema Write a coding guideline to clarify our message types: 'alert' vs 'error' (context of bug 27695) 14:30 ashimema I was aiming to do it for next cycle.. 14:30 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27695 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to stable , Fix style of messages on Elasticsearch configuration page 14:30 Joubu * ashimema Write a coding guideline to clarify our message types: 'alert' vs 'error' (context of bug 27695) 14:29 Joubu #topic Actions from last meeting 14:29 Joubu # Actions from last meeting 14:29 tcohen but, for the sake of the meeting, add it to the roadmap 14:29 Joubu hard to stick to the current topic :) 14:29 Joubu so, moving on? :D 14:29 tcohen oleonard++ 14:28 ashimema :) 14:28 oleonard I can work on a test patch with flatpickr just to get a feel for it 14:27 ashimema keyboard blurr.. :P 14:27 ashimema dang.. thanks 14:27 tuxayo *Wainui 14:27 ashimema perhaps ask henryb and wananui to help find an accessibility friendly one? 14:26 tcohen go for it! 14:26 fridolin +1 14:26 cait1 makes sense 14:25 oleonard If we agreed on a replacement that would really push the process forward. 14:25 oleonard No, but in my mind the datepicker was the biggest impediment to doing so 14:25 tcohen oleonard is 'get rid of jquery-ui' already on the roadmap? 14:24 Joubu yes but they had real cheese, not virtual 14:24 tuxayo :D 14:24 fridolin we made a virtual biblibre meeting with online games a night and real IPAs 14:24 cait1 i think the french librairans had one with some success? 14:24 cait1 but it could be helpful still to some extend 14:24 ashimema indeed 14:24 tcohen fridolin hehe 14:24 cait1 yeah, not hte same by far... 14:24 fridolin yep but real IPA ^^ 14:24 ashimema so we have something to look forward to this year? 14:24 ashimema virtual hackfest perhaps? 14:24 cait1 so people can plan on having free time for a timeframe and we could use zoom rooms or so 14:23 fridolin i'll catch master on friday 14:23 tcohen +1 for an improvised hackfest once they allow us to get into Europe 14:23 fridolin noted 14:23 fridolin oki notes 14:23 cait1 too bad... maybe we shoudl try a virtual one 14:23 tuxayo ok, noted 28351 to watch 14:23 fridolin hackfest in Marseille is probably for 2022, sorry 14:23 cait1 for the raodmap: i put some comments also on the older ones - maybe check those 14:22 cait1 hackfest++ 14:22 cait1 :) 14:22 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28351 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Pushed to master , Cannot set restrictions when 'dateformat' is other than 'us' 14:22 tcohen bug 28351 is mandatory for all stables down to 20.05 14:22 fridolin whooo I see Kyle and Nick will be on 21.05.x, super cool 14:21 tcohen yes 14:21 Joubu I don't know 14:20 fridolin Joubu: are there backoports to higlight ? 14:20 fridolin nothing pending i'd say 14:20 fridolin i'm up to date with master 14:20 fridolin Release of 20.11.06 will be around 25 14:19 fridolin sure 14:19 Joubu #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers 14:19 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master build #1652: SUCCESS in 1 hr 10 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/1652/ 14:19 Joubu ok, moving on? 14:18 tuxayo fridolin: if you can raise the question at BibLibre, because there are chances that a hackfest will be possible in the last months of the year 14:17 * ashimema thinks some items on the roadmpa would lend themselves to group hack sessions at hackfest 14:17 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25260 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Merge 'reserves' and 'old_reserves' into a new 'holds' table 14:17 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20271 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , Merge deleted biblio, biblioitems, biblio_metadata, and items tables 14:16 Joubu bug 20271 and bug 25260 14:16 ashimema lol 14:16 ashimema things have moved again since then.. but I think it's another one that feels very close and need a final push 14:16 ashimema is that not the one tomas and I pouired hours into QAing once.. perhaps twice.. already? 14:16 tcohen +1 14:16 ashimema but I don't know what's still required.. 14:16 Joubu pubs reopening today in France so hackfest is possible finally 14:16 ashimema We should do it.. 14:15 * ashimema needs to renew his passport 14:15 Joubu so it must be on the roadmap 14:15 fridolin ashimema: sure, as soon as possible HF in marseille 14:15 tcohen we should do it 14:15 Joubu if we continue or drop 14:15 Joubu tcohen: we need to decide for the merge of the old/deleted* tables 14:14 tcohen Joubu sure! 14:14 ashimema it's the sort of thing where trapping the right people in a room for half a day and it'll be done.. 14:14 ashimema fridolin, can you envisage a hackfest this coming cycle? 14:14 Joubu tcohen: I'd like you on Remove Mod/AddItemFromMarc from item form 14:14 Joubu thx 14:14 fridolin i add my name to it 14:14 fridolin yep 14:14 ashimema ;) 14:14 ashimema don't let it get to a third RM having to deal with it. 14:13 Joubu I'd like to ask Nicolas and Séverine from BULAC, and Sonia 14:13 ashimema we're so close.. :| 14:13 fridolin indeed 14:13 Joubu but it needs to be done 14:13 Joubu yeah, I prefer to focus on other parts as well 14:13 fridolin i prefer focus on other parts like ES 14:12 fridolin ich id like to see jajm on that better 14:12 Joubu and UNIMARC 14:12 Joubu fridolin: add your name to "Remove remaining SQL based installers", we will need you (and few others) for fr-FR 14:11 fridolin Git repository shrinking++ 14:11 Joubu we decided on June 1st IIRC 14:11 tcohen :-D 14:11 tcohen is there a deadline for the roadmap? 14:10 Joubu #link https://annuel.framapad.org/p/koha_21.05_tech_release_notes 14:10 Joubu #link https://annuel.framapad.org/p/koha_21.11_roadmap 14:10 Joubu #link https://frama.link/koha_bz_rel_21_05_candidate 14:10 Joubu #link https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?bug_status=Pushed%20to%20master&keywords=release-notes-needed%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&list_id=372816&query_format=advanced 14:09 Joubu so, with all the effort I made to create confusions, do you have any questions? 14:09 Joubu I am messing with everything 14:08 Joubu This ^, we are still in 21.05.. 14:08 Joubu https://annuel.framapad.org/p/koha_21.05_tech_release_notes 14:08 Joubu Arggggg 14:08 Joubu I will send an email to the list shortly. You know the idea already. We want to highlight what has been done for this cycle 14:08 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11 build #297: SUCCESS in 57 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11/297/ 14:08 Joubu * and, a new one: https://annuel.framapad.org/p/koha_21.11_tech_release_notes 14:07 Joubu please read again the whole document and put your names there 14:07 Joubu there are still rooms for all of you 14:07 tuxayo Ok, the calendar says "Only > major", it seemed odd 14:07 Joubu ^ the roadmap for 21.11, please add your names. New topics poped up 14:07 Joubu * https://annuel.framapad.org/p/koha_21.11_roadmap 14:06 Joubu no < majors! 14:06 Joubu no >= majors! 14:06 ashimema Critical/Blockers.. that makes sense 14:06 ashimema ah, yes.. 14:06 Joubu * https://frama.link/koha_bz_rel_21_05_candidate the 21.05 candidates 14:06 ashimema No majors.. or Only majors? 14:06 ashimema :) 14:06 tuxayo only critical and blocker? 14:06 Joubu missing release notes for 21.05 ^ 14:05 Joubu * https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?bug_status=Pushed%20to%20master&keywords=release-notes-needed%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&list_id=372816&query_format=advanced 14:05 Joubu some links: 14:05 Joubu I will be conservative for the last week 14:05 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City 14:05 Joubu No major will be pushed from now 14:05 Joubu ok so that's me 14:05 Joubu #topic Update from the Release Manager (21.05) 14:05 cait1 #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 14:05 cait1 sorry, need to scroll down first :) 14:04 ashimema #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe, UK 14:04 cait1 meeting? :) 14:04 Joubu Anyone have something? 14:04 Joubu #topic Announcements 14:04 tuxayo ashimema: np, we will get this ticket! ^^ 14:03 ashimema thanks for all the testing tuxayo 14:03 lukeG1 #info Lucas Gass, ByWater Solutions 14:02 Joubu #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_19_May_2021 14:02 oleonard-away #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA 14:02 tcohen #info Tomás Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions 14:02 Joubu #info Jonathan Druart 14:02 tuxayo #info tuxayo/Victor Grousset, France 14:02 Joubu #topic Introductions 14:02 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_19_may_2021' 14:02 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:02 huginn Meeting started Wed May 19 14:02:18 2021 UTC. The chair is Joubu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:02 Joubu #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 19 May 2021 14:01 tcohen #info Tomás Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions 14:00 tuxayo didn't though about this confusion ^^" 14:00 tuxayo lol 13:59 ashimema lol 13:59 ashimema not actually started 13:59 ashimema oh 13:59 ashimema #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe. 13:59 fridolin # Fridolin Somers, Biblibre, France 13:59 fridolin yey 13:58 tuxayo rmaints is probably fridolin, AndrewFH and tuxayo 13:58 tuxayo qa_team is cait, dcook, amoyano, ashimema, marcelr, kohaputti, jajm, tcohen, josef_moravec, kidclamp, khall and tuxayo 13:58 tuxayo wahanui missing 13:57 tuxayo qa_team? rmaints? 13:52 tuxayo meeting in 10! 13:45 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10_CPAN build #334: SUCCESS in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10_CPAN/334/ 13:32 Joubu dev meeting in ~30min 13:09 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27724: Add unit test <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cb3c3d56855e001bf608a3bf157c087e655c5c04> 13:09 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27724: Use lenient also in Elasticsearch authorities search <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=32f2026c1b6d5b97e6594020383940063d2b6fca> 13:09 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27837: Update permanent location if passed into ModItemFromMarc <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=97647da9a0541cb02ab0777ead388c8ff99a0424> 13:09 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27837: Add unit tests <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=99f67cb04c2bd03e9ac5c6d01688bf9520d10595> 13:09 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27837: Prevent the tests to fail is the field is mapped <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2b1c4c4f65c787e1c6a9548b087d4e0f760a0533> 13:09 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27837: Permanent location to be empty string, check if key exists <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=aa1d86920bd0392b4894fa2e756dcb41f2f7a5ec> 13:09 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28255: Follow up to bug 23463 - use item_object in misc/cronjobs/delete_items.pl <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=423421eb64f0130d9cb194e572f4ca89937b02a4> 13:08 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27837: Unit tests for blank permanent location <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=56d895da8be38bed9587ff480786ed6cf55cacce> 13:08 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27837: Check the MARC directly, not the transformed item <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=db382ebaffd393151e0ebd8e6579f5c11969a90c> 13:08 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27837: Always pass permanent location from items editor if it was defined <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f5bd16410a5c2dc597c265eec46a771cceec72bb> 13:08 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27837: (follow-up) Do not check subfield unless tag defined <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0e00dc78e4ed01678f037a970487fd871fa3e70f> 13:08 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28317: Use the default CGI::Session serializer <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cb90cbf4eb42e2ac63363a113cb5eb7f33459ac0> 13:08 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28187: Exclude dtrg-group from row striping. <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b1d81d1fa7d417ca1e3f4b382d876252b6267ae7> 13:08 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28351: (bug 26261) Fix datepicker for dateformat ne mm/dd/yyyy <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=539396fb27e02118d34f3b914fd2baffee752aa7> 13:08 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28187: Compiled CSS <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f6d323a0b20e74c52a93793eed2e7c3d7b656912> 12:02 * oleonard will 11:57 tcohen go for it 11:56 tcohen It is great, oleonard 11:56 oleonard Useful? Or confusing? https://zivotdesign.com/p/#1/16214252613854 11:37 oleonard-away Hi tcohen 11:29 tcohen hola 10:49 ashimema or they want to swap change from one till to another 10:49 ashimema there are occassionals where thy need to open the till for other reasons.. like.. they have keys stored in the till for certain services.. so they need to trigger the till to open to get at the key. 10:48 ashimema so when they make a payment it triggers the cash regsiter to open so they cnan put money in/ take change etc 10:48 ashimema where they store money 10:47 ashimema as in.. they have actual physical cash registers 10:47 tuxayo ashimema: what is the 'open till' thing? 10:32 ashimema in short.. it probably is a bug worth reporting.. or two perhaps.. one for 'open till' and one for 'zero amount transaction' 10:32 ashimema so.. 10:31 ashimema and we used to record that as a zero amount transactions for audit.. 10:31 ashimema However.. they did point out that they do zero amount transactions as a way to open the cash register (we have a javascript plugin that triggers their tills to open under certain conditions). 10:31 ashimema right now they don't use cash management for stock management at all.. so it works as they expect.. 10:30 ashimema interesting 10:26 tuxayo oh great! 10:25 ashimema I have the customer on a call at the moment.. I'll ask. 10:25 tuxayo Ok, I'll report and will see. Thank for insight. 10:08 ashimema it might be.. 10:08 ashimema interesting, I don't think I ever even considered that as a use case.. 10:07 tuxayo Just noticed when testing the bug, no influence on the ticket. 10:07 tuxayo bz 28368, I was wondering if the following is a bug: create debit type with price 0.00, try to buy them, it just refreshes the page and does nothing 10:05 tuxayo ashimema: I'll check out bz 27064 again soon 10:02 tuxayo Hi #koha o/ 09:28 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded. 09:28 ashimema @later tell tuxayo I'm not sure I understand your final comment on bug 28368 I'm afraid.. feel free to catch me some time to discus 08:24 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded. 08:24 ashimema @later tell tuxayo, sorry dude, bug 27064 is back to working.. seems I messed up part of the re-arrangement and lost part of the code change on '(QA follow-up) Do not create transfer prior to accepting it'.. it should be working now. 07:12 ashimema ok.. looks like it's broken again! 07:07 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27064 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Transferring an item with a hold allows the user to set a hold waiting without transferring to the correct branch 07:07 ashimema I'm retesting bug 27064 again tuxayo.. sounds like you're seeing very different behaviour to what I was seeing.. I must be missing something 06:58 magnuse \o/ 06:57 cait1 good morning #koha 06:43 hermitcl and to all a good night 06:42 alex_a Bonjour 06:27 hermitcl hola 06:27 reiveune hello