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<https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c257d7dd3f9872b329a82f5f97111416c653cf21> 15:48 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 18989: (QA follow-up) Have new preference default to current behaviour <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d43d8c905cc518170fe858f717feab44597cd17a> 15:48 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28091: add meta content with Koha version to staff client pages <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=52b4908dd386f05aae91134332e54fb6c390a70c> 15:48 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 18989: Fix syspref's value selection <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7998536866e8be46033507e0dd53f7085b3e4585> 15:48 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28189: Move swagger file to YAML format <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3c16e0110e62f57d7eedf07d9ffe3ddc334f4070> 15:48 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 18989: (QA follow-up) Make Koha::Biblio->hidden_in_opac aware of 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<https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b2612d32390fc5e6825427799f9ddc1c7f949982> 15:45 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D10 build #103: SUCCESS in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_D10/103/ 15:43 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D9 build #97: SUCCESS in 1 hr 9 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_D9/97/ 15:38 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_U18 build #82: SUCCESS in 1 hr 0 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_U18/82/ 15:30 fridolin thanks again 15:30 fridolin oki 15:30 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_U2010 build #80: SUCCESS in 52 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_U2010/80/ 15:30 Joubu well, it's not in master, it's for 20.11 15:29 Joubu yes 15:28 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28248 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to master , Exception when getting all orders 15:28 fridolin Joubu: Bug 28248 I must backport right ? 15:26 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D10 build #102: SUCCESS in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_D10/102/ 15:19 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27916 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Fee paid message can crash SIP server if paying fee that is not "renewable" 15:19 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28200 major, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Net::Netmask 1.9104-2 requires constructor change for backwards compatibility 15:19 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28302 major, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Koha does not work with CGI::Compile 0.24 15:19 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28317 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, In Discussion , Remove CGI::Session::Serialize::yaml dependency by using the default serializer 15:19 tuxayo In case that helps, here are the explicitly highlighted tickets during the meeting: bug 28317 bug 28302 bug 28200 bug 27916 15:19 * tuxayo will continue reading the history latter. 15:18 henryb :D 15:18 cait1 :) 15:18 cait1 henryb: i sure hope so! 15:18 tuxayo Enjoy! cait1 :) 15:17 ashimema lol 15:17 henryb Enjoy your holiday cait1! Do the other caits get the day off too? 15:16 cait1 we have a holiday here tomorrow, back Friday latest 15:16 cait1 :) 15:13 tuxayo Some long history article about Koha: https://librarytechnology.org/document/24481 15:11 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_U20 build #86: SUCCESS in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_U20/86/ 15:07 fridolin ok thanks 15:06 Joubu no 15:06 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27621 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Pushed to master , Remove it-IT installer data 15:06 fridolin Joubu: hi, Bug 27621 do I backport ? 15:04 tuxayo And there was an automated test! 15:04 tuxayo 21 years ago ^^" 15:03 reiveune bye 14:59 Joubu https://git.koha-community.org/Koha-community/kumara/commit/959927dc743b84527ca032d63cedb198dc65e120 14:59 tuxayo :D 14:59 Joubu https://git.koha-community.org/Koha-community/kumara 14:59 Joubu not that link 14:59 Joubu https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_Splitting_and_Shrinking 14:58 Joubu and kumara history is still available (and counted in the git stats) 14:57 ashimema I'm sure I've seen that mentioned a few times 14:57 ashimema I did know about Kumara though :).. 14:57 * ashimema commits that to his memory instead 14:57 ashimema I love that.. 'Cheap, Cheerful Copy of Catalist' is a much cooler history 14:57 oleonard henryb: wizzyrea would have been working with good data but it doesn't look like it was maintained 14:57 ashimema oh cool 14:56 ashimema nice find henry 14:56 tcohen :-D 14:56 tcohen I always thought it was a reference to code4lib.org 14:56 tuxayo :D thanks for these infos 14:56 henryb "According to Chris Cormack, C4 meant "It might go asplodey in your face." Little known fact: Koha was also briefly named Kumara (sweet potato)" 14:56 henryb "Koha was originally called "C4" which according to Rosalie Blake at HLT meant "Cheap, Cheerful Copy of Catalist" (their former system)." 14:55 henryb Is this official? By wizzyrea: https://www.timetoast.com/timelines/koha-releases 14:55 * ashimema asked rangi once 14:54 ashimema something like that anyway 14:54 ashimema so they called Koha's module namespace 'C4' as a throw back.. 14:54 ashimema The system they had at Horowhenua before Koha was called C2 or something like that I think.. 14:49 oleonard Modules in the C4 directory instead of Koha 14:49 tuxayo BTW what does the C4 namespace means? 14:47 ashimema https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Release_Teams#21.05_Team updated :) 14:46 oleonard If we check the log I think you'll find that adding a time machine to Koha has always been part of the plan. 14:46 tuxayo time machine running Koha lol. Talk about feature creep 14:45 oleonard We find out in the future that once enough bugs are reported in Bugzilla, the bugs become sentient. 14:45 henryb Unfortunately, the bugs all get together and send a super bug back in time to break the time machine 14:44 henryb Amazing film pitch: use it to write patches for future bugs not yet reported 14:41 tuxayo good film pitch: use it to report bad bugs and bring patches from the future 14:41 oleonard Basically what Hermione did with the Time-Turner in Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban. 14:40 tcohen henryb hahahaha 14:40 oleonard Shoot I didn't check the month :D 14:40 henryb Terrible film pitch: someone creates a time machine and uses it to attend more meetings 14:39 tuxayo nope, started in october 2017 14:39 tcohen indeed :-D 14:38 tuxayo :o 14:38 oleonard tuxayo: We saw you in 2017, so I guess your message back in time worked 14:38 henryb Thanks all! 14:38 tuxayo thanks oleonard for supplying the backup confettis 14:36 tuxayo thanks for chairing joubu++ ashimema++ 14:36 tcohen Joubu++ 14:36 tcohen koha++ 14:36 tuxayo See you in 2017 o/ 14:36 kohaputti thanks! 14:36 ashimema thanks everyone 14:35 huginn Log: https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/general_irc_meeting_12_march_2021.2021-05-12-14.01.log.html 14:35 huginn Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/general_irc_meeting_12_march_2021.2021-05-12-14.01.txt 14:35 huginn Minutes: https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/general_irc_meeting_12_march_2021.2021-05-12-14.01.html 14:35 huginn Meeting ended Wed May 12 14:35:56 2021 UTC. 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(v 0.1.4) 14:35 ashimema #endmeeting 14:35 ashimema ok, lets call it that then :) 14:35 tuxayo shoots, it's #info so my example ended up in the log :o 14:35 ashimema ok with everyone? 14:35 ashimema #info Next meeting: 09 June 2021, 14 UTC 14:34 tuxayo #info Next meeting: 26 July 2017, 14 UTC 14:34 Joubu otherwise it will overlap with dev meeting 14:34 * ashimema tries to remember the syntax or the script.. it's been a while ;) 14:34 Joubu 9th is in 4w 14:34 ashimema 16th June sound reasonable.. 14:34 Joubu 14UTC 14:33 * ashimema should have prepped this bit 14:33 ashimema #topic Time for next meeting 14:33 ashimema ok 14:32 tuxayo ^^ 14:32 thd Good to see that some of my system fonts work for confetti :) 14:32 ashimema anyone have any other buisines? 14:32 ashimema Looks like it was a clear slate last meeting :) 14:32 ashimema #topic Actions from last meeting 14:32 oleonard (ง ͡ʘ ͜ʖ ͡ʘ)ง 14:32 oleonard Ù©(✪ꀾâŸà¼¶)Ùˆ 14:31 tuxayo 🎊 14:31 tuxayo ✧*。٩(ˊᗜˋ*)و✧*。 14:31 ashimema confetti! 14:30 tuxayo ✧*。٩(ˊᗜˋ*)و✧*。 14:30 ashimema 🎊 14:30 tcohen confetti! 14:30 tuxayo confetti! 14:30 huginn Yes (12): Joubu, cait1, oleonard, ashimema, tuxayo, kohaputti, khall, kidclamp, henryb, tcohen, nugged, thd 14:30 huginn Voted on "Do we agree to vote in the next release team as it stands on the wiki page right now?" Results are 14:30 ashimema #endvote 14:30 ashimema 1 14:30 ashimema 2 14:30 kidclamp #vote yes 14:30 ashimema 3 14:30 ashimema 4 14:30 ashimema 5 14:29 ashimema OK.. will give it another minute for stragglers then call it. 14:29 Joubu nugged: great to see you around ;) 14:29 tuxayo Vote isn't case sensitive 14:29 nugged #vote yes 14:29 ashimema but.. she will have the backup of a good team at catalyst behind her.. Aliesha, Chris etc. 14:29 kohaputti #vote yes 14:28 kohaputti ok, I trust you guys, then my vote: 14:28 ashimema She is new at catalyst kohaputti, she's been working through accessability bugs to date 14:28 tuxayo kohaputti: Wainui is from Catalyst 14:28 henryb #vote Yes 14:28 khall #vote Yes 14:28 ashimema I've never worked out if it's case sensative.. but it does take your last vote if you vote twice ;) 14:28 kohaputti probably yes, but who is Wainui Witika-Park for 19.11 release maintainer? 14:27 * tuxayo check the old votes 14:27 oleonard #vote Yes 14:27 tuxayo hum 14:27 tcohen #vote Yes 14:27 thd #vote Yes 14:27 tcohen wait, is is case sensitive? 14:27 cait1 got to go! reading back later! 14:27 Joubu #vote yes 14:27 henryb #vote yes 14:27 tcohen #vote yes 14:27 tuxayo #vote yes 14:27 ashimema #vote Yes 14:27 cait1 #vote yes 14:26 huginn Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 14:26 huginn Begin voting on: Do we agree to vote in the next release team as it stands on the wiki page right now? Valid vote options are Yes, No, Abstain. 14:26 ashimema #startvote Do we agree to vote in the next release team as it stands on the wiki page right now? Yes, No, Abstain 14:26 cait1 the question part :) 14:26 cait1 or it won't like it 14:26 cait1 and end with a ? 14:26 cait1 yep 14:26 cait1 i think it's startvote question options 14:26 ashimema / #startvote <Question> <Options, comma separated> 14:26 cait1 it's on the chairing meetings wiki page :P 14:25 tcohen yes :-D 14:25 Joubu what's the vote syntax? 14:23 Joubu yes, nice QA team :) 14:23 cait1 everyone signing up fresh for QA: expect a weekly email from me :) 14:23 ashimema #link https://annuel.framapad.org/p/koha_21.11_roadmap Provisional Roadmap for 21.11 14:23 cait1 I got to leave in 5 minutes, but could you count a +1 from me for the elections? Really happy overall, especially with growing QA team 14:23 ashimema all good henry.. we'll sort them once we have an initial list and have pinned people down to help ;) 14:23 Joubu henryb: no worries, we will reorder later 14:22 cait1 if it's accessilbity that might be a good spot :) 14:22 henryb Oops, I just added mine at the top 14:22 cait1 Joubu: maybe we can talk sometime about how the move could progress (namespace) 14:22 ashimema yup 14:21 Joubu cait1: topics without enough people will be moved down 14:21 ashimema we want to keep the list short and work through it.. if we finish one, perhaps we can add another in it's place.. capping a maximum that can appear on it at any given time or something along those lines. 14:21 Joubu kohaputti: I've stopped working on moving code from C4 to Koha because it took too long to get the changes tested and QAed 14:21 ashimema as part of 'IRC Meeting Facilitator' we talk about keeping roadmap topics on track.. that's where I intend on focusing most of my effort in that role (and I suggested perhaps we rename the role if it makes sense to) 14:20 cait1 also helps to see where we need to push qa/testing 14:20 cait1 maybe good to mark what you will be focusing on first /highest priority 14:20 cait1 i am a little worried we will get a long list but be spread out too much 14:19 ashimema certainly tcohen 14:19 cait1 #info June 1st is the deadline for the 21.11 roadmap 14:19 tcohen ashimema can you help me with the holds table again, this cycle? 14:19 kohaputti The C4-namespace stuff is still causing delays in fixing bugs 14:19 Joubu you can still help other topics when you will have done all the ones you commited to 14:19 cait1 can we info that? 14:19 cait1 are we planning on prioritizing projects too? 14:19 Joubu good idea, ashimema ;) 14:18 ashimema I've had a quick look but not a really detailed one yet.. I don't want to over-commit myself this time ;) 14:18 * ashimema too 14:18 Joubu June 1st 14:18 cait1 if that's ok? 14:18 cait1 I'll try to check out the roadmap for possible additions before next week 14:18 tcohen :-D 14:18 Joubu I won't help nothing big not in the roadmap 14:18 tcohen what is the deadline for the roadmap? 14:17 ashimema +1 14:17 tcohen Agreed 14:17 Joubu if you need my help, please add your topic/work there 14:17 cait1 makes sense to me 14:17 Joubu which is really what I would like to do next cycle, focussing on what is in the roadmap 14:17 Joubu #link https://annuel.framapad.org/p/koha_21.11_roadmap 14:17 Joubu from this link, there is "Most of my time will be on RM duties and help the 21.11 roadmap topics" 14:16 Joubu #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Proposal_for_RM_21.11_joubu 14:16 ashimema indeed 14:16 cait1 Sally++ 14:16 cait1 i think she wanted to, but was still figuring out docs manager role? 14:16 henryb Sally++ 14:16 cait1 I think we could still nominate caroline_catlady later - if she is not around now 14:15 tcohen Agustin 14:15 tcohen he forgot to add himself 14:15 tcohen yes 14:15 ashimema I just added Sally as a bugwrangler.. she's just getting the go ahead for it from her boss ;).. we can remove it if she doesn't but I wanted it on there for the vote 14:15 Joubu (I have proof of that) 14:15 kohaputti Agustin was in 21.05 release team 14:15 kohaputti Is Agustin Moyano wanting to continue in QA? 14:15 Joubu ashimema: AndrewFH told me he is willing to do it for 22.05! 14:14 ashimema hopefully I can make it feel like a good role for someone to step into for the 22.05 cycle 14:14 Joubu caroline_catlady: no more in the documentation team? 14:14 ashimema no worries.. 14:14 Joubu Thanks ashimema for picking the IRC role! 14:14 oleonard ✧*。٩(ˊᗜˋ*)و✧*。 <- confetti alternative 14:14 kidclamp #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions 14:13 khall #info Kyle M Hall, ByWater Solutions 14:13 tuxayo lol 14:13 cait1 tuxayo: right... might have to postpone elections withotu confettis! ;) 14:13 Joubu Do we missing people there? 14:13 Joubu #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_21.11 14:13 Joubu #topic Election of the Koha 21.11 Release Team 14:12 Joubu #info stable releases are scheduled for 24/25th 14:12 tuxayo We can't do confettis! 14:12 tuxayo > wahanui is not with us! 14:11 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 14:11 Joubu @later tell rangi wahanui is not with us! 14:11 cait1 sorry,... my alarm didn't go off 14:10 Joubu rmaints? 14:10 Joubu #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers 14:10 cait1 #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 14:10 Joubu any questions? 14:10 * ashimema will have another go at a test 14:09 Joubu and there are 4 criticals (check the dashboard), waiting for patches! 14:09 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27916 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Fee paid message can crash SIP server if paying fee that is not "renewable" 14:09 Joubu need eyes on bug 27916 14:09 Joubu n 14:09 ashimema it's been a busy few days :| 14:09 ashimema Their at the top of my list for after this meeting ;) 14:08 Joubu at least those 3 14:08 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28200 major, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Net::Netmask 1.9104-2 requires constructor change for backwards compatibility 14:08 Joubu bug 28200 14:08 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28302 major, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Koha does not work with CGI::Compile 0.24 14:08 Joubu bug 28302 14:08 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28317 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, In Discussion , Remove CGI::Session::Serialize::yaml dependency by using the default serializer 14:08 Joubu bug 28317 14:08 Joubu there are some there that are blocker for the release 14:07 Joubu that's the one you should have bookmarked already 14:07 Joubu https://frama.link/koha_bz_rel_21_05_candidate 14:07 Joubu all good for me, please focus on the 21.05 tag 14:07 ashimema nice to see you patrov_ :) 14:07 Joubu #topic Update from the Release Manager (21.05) 14:06 ashimema #info Release is scheduled for 28th May - Keep your final bugfixes and qa momentum going everyone :) 14:06 kohaputti Joubu, ok 14:06 Joubu kohaputti: Bernardo told me he can regenerate the strings if needed later today 14:06 tcohen :-d 14:06 tcohen can we wait one more day? 14:05 petrov_ #info Petro Vashchuk, National Library of Finland, Oulu 14:05 Joubu Nothing much PQA today so I think you are good for starting the translation 14:05 kohaputti was? :) 14:05 Joubu #info String freeze is today! 14:05 ashimema You've sent out the release schedule and dates.. we could remind people the email is out there ;) 14:05 ashimema :P 14:04 Joubu #info Koha is awesome! 14:04 ashimema Koha is awesome! 14:04 Joubu Anyone have something? 14:04 Joubu #topic Announcements 14:04 nugged #info Andrew Nugged, National Library of Finland, Oulu 14:03 henryb #info Henry Bolshaw, House of Lords Library, UK 14:03 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City 14:03 tcohen #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions 14:03 ashimema sure thing 14:03 Joubu I am in a meeting, please help me chairing 14:03 tuxayo ha ha 14:03 huginn Current chairs: Joubu ashimema cait 14:03 huginn Warning: Nick not in channel: cait 14:03 ashimema qa_team? 14:03 Joubu #chair cait 14:03 huginn Current chairs: Joubu ashimema 14:03 Joubu #chair ashimema 14:02 Joubu #topic Introductions 14:02 * ashimema is waiting on a confirmation to add a name to that little group 14:02 ashimema #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe, UK 14:02 ashimema that post is usually one that fills up 14:02 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City 14:02 kohaputti #info Joonas Kylmälä 14:02 ashimema funny.. we don't have any Bugwrangler standing yet 14:01 oleonard #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio USA 14:01 nugged o/ 14:01 Joubu #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_12_May_2021 14:01 tuxayo #info tuxayo/Victor Grousset, France 14:01 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_12_march_2021' 14:01 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:01 huginn Meeting started Wed May 12 14:01:31 2021 UTC. The chair is Joubu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:01 Joubu #startmeeting General IRC meeting 12 March 2021 13:59 kohaputti Joubu, awesome 13:58 Joubu kohaputti: yes, the 21.05 project has been created few hours ago 13:58 cait1 yay :) 13:57 tuxayo thanks for the weekly emails, it's motivating :D 13:57 nlegrand ^^ 13:57 cait1 love it 13:57 cait1 mailnig list etc. 13:57 cait1 thx for working on all the hard bugs :) 13:57 tuxayo ? 13:57 cait1 tuxayo++ 13:57 tuxayo Hi #koha :) 13:56 kohaputti the translation strings got just pushed? 13:52 oleonard https://git.koha-community.org/Koha-community/Koha/src/branch/master/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/circ/overdue.tt#L267 13:51 oleonard Hm, I guess it's just an odd hack? https://git.koha-community.org/Koha-community/Koha/src/branch/master/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/circ/overdue.tt#L176 13:49 oleonard-away Anyone know if there is a reason for an "x-code" attribute on a <script> tag? I can't seem to Google up anything about it. 13:27 tcohen I'll be fine haha 13:27 cait1 tcohen: i am very worried about you 13:26 * tcohen is anxious to rewrite all orders listing pages with the API now 13:24 Joubu cait1: I have it in my calendar since last december ;) 13:22 cait1 on order line level 13:22 cait1 it#s ok, just looking for a field the library can use 13:22 cait1 it would totally make sense to have them there, but we don't 13:22 cait1 acq advanced search 13:21 tcohen *holds * holds (says a little fairy in my brain) 13:21 tcohen where are you looking at? 13:20 cait1 *sigh* 13:20 cait1 and the note fields 13:20 cait1 hm no good reason why we can't search sort1 and sort2 from orders... are there? 13:20 tcohen thanks, indeed 13:18 cait1 thx kidclamp :) 13:18 kidclamp you're both good :-) 13:17 kidclamp tcohen++ 13:17 kidclamp cait++ 13:17 tcohen bad cait 13:17 tcohen haha 13:17 tcohen I'll go write it 13:17 tcohen ah damn 13:17 tcohen *useless 13:16 cait1 we'll have to rememberlater then :) batch editing stuff here 13:16 cait1 not right now, but thought worth writing it down smewhere 13:16 tcohen I'm rushing to write some patches for holds while my brain is not completely useful 13:16 tcohen yes! could you write it down? 13:16 cait1 :) 13:16 cait1 tcohen: should it be on the roadmap? 13:15 tcohen will update it 13:15 tcohen that's old (node v8) 13:15 tcohen https://gitlab.com/thekesolutions/tools/koha-plugin-builder/container_registry 13:13 tcohen henryb that's why I was asking, I use a docker container to run the build 13:13 tcohen ashimema Joubu should we start planning the KohaAdvent21? 13:13 henryb So you need to have gulp and npm etc. running locally rather than just in KTD? 13:13 tcohen ah, good idea 13:12 henryb I thought I'd start trying to edit an existing plugin but maybe it would be better to follow your example from the Koha advent 13:11 tcohen structure? 13:11 tcohen do you already have the plugin? 13:11 tcohen a sec 13:11 henryb tcohen++ 13:11 henryb Thank you tcohen that makes much more sense now! 13:10 tcohen I use vscode for coding 13:10 henryb thanks for showing me kup - I had missed that alias! 13:09 tcohen exactly 13:09 henryb so you work on the plugin outside of KTD and point KTD to the plugin files and test it works using KTD? Rather than editing the plugin code directly from within KTD? 13:09 * ashimema needs to nip to the shops before the meeting.. bbiab 13:08 tcohen henryb: once you launch with 'kup' instead of the old 'ku' you need to tweak koha-conf.xml to point to /kohadevbox/koha_plugin 13:08 ashimema lol.. so 11gb for the ptfs-e one's right now.. and I have only 6gb physical.. must be swapping like mad lol 13:08 Joubu so with 8G you can have MAX 6 sandboxes 13:07 Joubu It's 1G for the elastic container, then 1G per sandbox 13:07 ashimema hehe.. way ahead of me 13:07 tcohen before running it 13:07 ashimema you have to set another env right.. to point to a plugin 13:07 tcohen you need to set PLUGIN_REPO=your/plugin/path 13:07 tcohen the ku + plugin alias 13:07 tcohen ok, then you have access to kup 13:06 henryb tcohen yes I know ku/kd etc. but I have no idea how they work in the background 13:06 tcohen however you launch KTD, take a look at the docker-compose.plugin.yml file 13:06 ashimema no worries 13:05 ashimema hehe 13:05 ashimema Joubu is getting the biblibre one's setup and used the specs of the ptfs-e server to get an idea of what he needs.. our server is remarkably low spec for what it's running.. not really sure how it's still alive 13:05 khall ashimema I really don't know, that's an Ops question ;) 13:05 tcohen henryb are you familiar with the aliases we have? 13:05 ashimema what size server are/were they running on khall 13:05 tcohen henryb I'm opening my configuration files 13:04 khall oleonard yep, they are still down. we are waiting on rackspace to upsize our private cloud so we can reluanch that server 13:03 ashimema any tips for henryb 13:01 tcohen I use it daily 13:01 ashimema must admit though.. I've not really used it myself for that yet 13:01 ashimema tcohen has added stuff to make k-t-d good for developing plugins.. 13:00 henryb Can/should you use koha testing docker to create and edit plugins? I'm trying to learn more about plugins from the excellent guides around but I'm too much of a beginner to follow the beginner's guides :( 12:56 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27899 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Missing description for libraryNotPickupLocation on request.pl 12:56 oleonard tcohen: I can reproduce Bug 27899 using my usual testing database but not using the sample data. Do you know anything more specific about how to trigger the bug? 12:56 henryb Hi everyone 12:35 ashimema still.. whilst it's working I shant touch it.. haha 12:35 * ashimema is actually surprised to see ptfs-e sandboxes up still at the moment.. i though i had them limited to 8 at the moment but it seems I forgot to reset from 10.. it's a bit under-resourced for 10.. 12:34 ashimema khall ^ 12:33 ashimema :) 12:33 tcohen great! 12:30 oleonard PTFS-E sandboxes very popular :) 12:28 Joubu [off] oleonard: still testing - https://sandboxes.biblibre.eu 12:27 Joubu ¡Ya esta! https://translate.koha-community.org/projects/21.05/ 12:24 oleonard ByWater sandboxes STILL down? Anyone know what's going on with that? 12:06 Joubu would be good to have it pushed today (string freeze) 12:06 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27899 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Missing description for libraryNotPickupLocation on request.pl 12:06 Joubu oleonard: can you have a second look at bug 27899 please? 11:55 oleonard All I know is that the whole tags feature is neglected... has it changed at all since it was first introduced? 11:46 magnuse or am i just misremembering how this used to be? 11:45 magnuse did the behaviour of searching for tags change at some point? example: i have a koha where q=perl returns 5 hits. then i have tagged 2 of those records + 1 other record with "perl". the link from the tag is tag=perl&q=perl. that only gives 3 hits. i was expecting 6 = the union(?) of all of the records tagged with "perl" and all records that contain "perl" somwhere in the marc data 11:44 ashimema It has its quirks but is generally pretty usable 11:44 ashimema I use it extensively in some of the accounts stuff 11:43 ashimema hehe 11:43 tcohen I've just noticed we include jquery.validate, and am happy he 11:43 ashimema it's almost a 'Community manager/Community secretary/chair' role (which also sounds better on paper so might be an easier sell to the purse string holders in companies) 11:42 ashimema I'm tempted to rename Joubu's new 'IRC Meeting Facilitator' idea to something else.. to showcase it's as much about helping make sure the roadmap progresses as it is about chairing meetings. 11:41 * ashimema is looking at the roles page before the meeting later today.. 11:39 ashimema excellent :) 11:39 tcohen :-D 11:39 tcohen I am 11:39 ashimema hope you are well today? 11:39 ashimema morning tcohen 11:38 tcohen morning 10:39 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28327 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , System preference CSVdelimiter special case for tabulation 10:39 fridolin Bug 28327 never ending story of delimiter ;) 10:35 oleonard Hi #koha 10:07 * fridolin on bionic 10:07 fridolin where do i find unstable repo ? 10:06 fridolin E: Impossible de récupérer http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/pool/main/k/koha/koha-perldeps_20.12.00-25~git+20210325233504.4e177268-1_all.deb 404 Not Found [IP : 67.220.127.145 80] 10:06 fridolin i have issue with unstable deb 09:17 dcook ciao #koha 09:16 dcook Whelp even more discouraged than I was this morning. Wasted 2 hours of my life for nothing :D. 09:11 dcook For example: http://localhost:8081/mojo 09:09 dcook Getting tonnes of 200 statuses for things that are actually 404s.. 09:08 dcook Something is very messed up 09:08 dcook Or maybe it's just Koha.. 09:08 dcook Ugh... Mojolicious does some really weird stuff.. 09:03 dcook It's handling a 302 ok so it must be something else.. 08:56 pastebot "dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "plack being the worst" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/417 08:54 dcook Yep nope makes no sense :( 08:54 magnuse \o/ 08:52 dcook Unless.. 08:47 dcook Maybe I'm doing somethign wrong but it's weiiird 08:46 dcook It'll find the nested app, but the higher level app does this weird internal 404 thing.. 08:46 dcook It looks like if you mount a PSGI app within another PSGI app.. it doesn't quite work the way the documentation says it should 08:46 dcook Thanks ashimema and matts :) 08:44 matts I can feel the desperation in that scream, dcook :) 08:39 ashimema hugs 08:39 dcook haha 08:39 dcook Ahhhhh Plack. Whyyyy 08:16 nlegrand Bonjour #koha! 06:28 reiveune hello 06:24 alex_a Bonjour 01:54 tuxayo So will be the other accounts elsewhere of the persons using the same passwords. 01:54 tuxayo brad: I see. It would be great to adapt the php script to use bcrypt for new passwords. So in case of DB leak, these passwords would be much much safely protected. 01:40 brad and also employees accounts 01:37 brad we want student portal password and kohas patron password will be the same 01:32 tuxayo You mean it's not via Koha that the password are chosen and saved? 01:32 tuxayo > we create a php script that will automatically insert borrowers/patron data in md5 when new enrolled student created in our main database 01:31 tuxayo IIUC the new password (new users or change of password) when done via Koha should use Bcrypt by default 01:30 tuxayo of course there is something like that, otherwise it would be a huge mess upgrading old Koha's which is what you are doing 01:30 tuxayo > # check what encryption algorithm was implemented: Bcrypt - if the hash starts with '$2' it is Bcrypt else md5 01:30 tuxayo https://git.koha-community.org/Koha-community/Koha/src/branch/master/C4/Auth.pm#L2024 01:30 tuxayo brad: hey it should work straitforward! :D 01:28 brad old koha uses md5 while latest koha uses bcrypt type password 01:27 tuxayo Are there variation of bcrypt? 01:23 brad coz in our old koha 2.2.9 we create a php script that will automatically insert borrowers/patron data in md5 when new enrolled student created in our main database 01:22 tuxayo ok 01:22 brad "the" 01:22 tuxayo "ta" ? 01:21 tuxayo Sure, it's just a regular table on whatever DBMS (database) you have 01:21 brad we dont knw ta bycrypt type koha use 01:21 brad is there any we can create a php script that insert patron data on koha databae borrowers table? 01:19 tuxayo i.e. it will get complicated ^_^" 01:19 tuxayo > If your passwords are already encrypted, talk to your systems administrator about options 01:19 tuxayo https://koha-community.org/manual/20.11/en/html/tools.html#creating-a-patron-import-file 01:18 tuxayo That could mean a lot of manual setting of passwords ^^" 01:17 tuxayo It's just an idea that came to my mind 01:17 tuxayo I don't have experience in this but, by the same way your new patrons and staff have their password set, you could use that way after upgrading Koha and loosing the passwords in the process. 01:16 tuxayo It's not straitforward possible. There might be ways to circumvent that with some efforts. 01:14 brad we want to migrate our old koha 2.2.9 borrowers table w/ md5 password to latest koha 20.11 brycrpt 01:10 tuxayo It's not possible to set passwords from just their MD5 01:10 tuxayo > to koha bcrypt encryption 01:10 tuxayo So it's not the plain text password 01:10 tuxayo > partrons data w/ md5 password 01:09 brad coz we want to integrate/automate our existing database to koha ..thanks 01:09 tuxayo hi brad :) 01:08 brad does anybody knows how to create a php script that imports partrons data w/ md5 password to koha bcrypt encryption password? 01:07 brad hello