Time  Nick       Message
23:10 dcook      aleisha++
23:10 dcook      you're a champion
23:10 dcook      tuxayo++
22:25 huginn     Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15565 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Signed Off , Place multiple holds at once for the same record in OPAC
22:25 huginn     Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15516 new feature, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Needs Signoff , Allow to place a hold on first available item from a group of titles
22:25 aleisha    yep i think dcook was keen to get bug 15516 and bug 15565 tested
22:25 aleisha    hi yes im here!
22:14 tuxayo     And the patch landed just now!
22:13 huginn     Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15516 new feature, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Needs Signoff , Allow to place a hold on first available item from a group of titles
22:13 tuxayo     Oh, I see, dcook pinged me about bug 15516 it half a day ago but in the meantime it went back to needing work. I'll just spy on it for now ^^
22:09 tuxayo     aleisha around?
21:21 oleonard   ?
21:21 oleonard   "git.koha-community.org[0: 3.23.183.225]: errno=Connection refused"
21:02 oleonard   o/
20:57 wahanui    hey, aleisha
20:57 aleisha    hello
20:16 tuxayo     🛫
19:47 tcohen     have a good one everyone, taking off
19:47 ashimema   caroline++ #documenting it for future
19:47 tcohen     hehe
19:47 caroline   thanks again tcohen++! I'm adding your contribution to the manual as we speak :)
19:47 ashimema   tcohen++
19:46 ashimema   Love the team here.. people at so friendly and willing to help
19:46 ashimema   Probably similar.. regexr is me to me.. still try it tomorrow 🙂
19:44 caroline   cool! I usually use https://regexr.com/ but I will give yours a try too
19:44 tcohen     +1
19:43 ashimema   I test lots of regex's using it
19:43 ashimema   regex101.com is a great tool to play with bte
19:43 ashimema   Regex is fun
19:32 tcohen     it was only to showcase you can arrange things at will
19:31 caroline   +1
19:31 tcohen     but I typoed
19:31 tcohen     \s(.)$ should've been \s(.*)$
19:31 tcohen     also
19:31 tcohen     spaces between them
19:30 tcohen     exactly
19:30 tcohen     it is missing an asterisk, but yes
19:28 caroline   this rule would result in <everything else><2 following characters><9 first characters>?
19:25 tcohen     silly example
19:25 tcohen     and it would revert the terms
19:25 tcohen     s/^(.{9})\s(.{2})\s(.)$/$3 $2 $1/
19:24 tcohen     you could have
19:24 caroline   but now it makes more sense
19:24 caroline   which was why I didn't understand this example s/^(J|K)\n/$1 /
19:23 tcohen     where you are trying to match
19:23 tcohen     on the first part of the expression
19:23 tcohen     that's correct
19:23 caroline   I knew about ^, and I thought $ meant end of line
19:22 tcohen     ^ <- means starts with
19:22 caroline   I will add this new one to the manual so we can refer to it later
19:22 marie-luce tcohen++
19:22 tcohen     caroline++ # this stuff aint easy
19:21 tcohen     the order in which they are written
19:21 caroline   tcohen++ (++++)
19:21 tcohen     where # is the number of the capture buffer
19:21 caroline   https://snipboard.io/Wa1wA9.jpg
19:21 tcohen     on the right side
19:21 tcohen     can be referred to, using $#
19:21 tcohen     whatever has matched with the expression inside of it
19:20 tcohen     is a capture group
19:20 tcohen     so each thing you surround with parenthesis
19:20 tcohen     https://snipboard.io/oVw6Hg.jpg
19:20 caroline   yes!! *cries*
19:20 caroline   and I can add two (I had forgotten)
19:20 tcohen     you can specify several regexps in a rule, right?
19:19 tcohen     great
19:19 caroline   tcohen: it works! I have to add the space too, but yay!!
19:16 tcohen     that site is not that useful
19:14 tcohen     s/(^.{9})/$1\n/
19:13 tcohen     like in
19:13 tcohen     a way to refer to what matched
19:13 tcohen     if you wanted to add \n there, you need a capture group
19:12 tcohen     right
19:04 caroline   s/\s/\n/g = split on spaces
19:03 caroline   Joubu had provided examples in the bz which I copied in the manual
19:03 caroline   https://koha-community.org/manual/20.11/en/html/administration.html#classification-splitting-rules
19:03 caroline   In Administration > Classification sources > Splitting rules
19:02 tcohen     he
19:02 tcohen     what are you trying to do, and where?
19:02 caroline   maybe I can try telling it to add a space after 9 characters and then replacing the spaces by new lines...
19:02 caroline   anyway, I realize it's doing a search and replace... I don't want to replace the 9 characters by a new line...
19:01 caroline   yes and it didn't like it lol!
19:01 tcohen     caroline have you tried 9 dots?
18:37 caroline   (the character 9)
18:37 caroline   I tried s/(\s|.{9})/\n/g (as per the regex cheatsheet here https://regexr.com/) but it cuts at every 9
18:36 caroline   Ex. 971.42805092 C669r Should become 971.42805\n092\nC669r
18:36 caroline   Hi all! For RegEx splitting rules, does anyone know how to cut after 9 characters?
17:24 reiveune   bye
15:29 ashimema   do you think you'll have time to do a final quick test this evening perhaps?
15:29 ashimema   I'm doing the follow-ups for 14757 myself.. just about to push them up
15:29 ashimema   cait1..
14:56 ashimema   okies
14:56 cait1      sorry, i have to leave - meeting in RL
14:55 cait1      i have reading Phil's commen ton my list, but didn't get to it yet :(
14:55 cait1      it woudl be messy
14:55 cait1      because without bug 14957 ... we can't keep it on overwrites
14:54 huginn     Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25449 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Make itemtype mandatory by default
14:54 ashimema   cait1, Joubu wants your throughts on bug 25449
14:54 cait1      i am against 942$c mandatory
14:54 cait1      where do you need me?
14:54 cait1      it makes me sad too
14:54 cait1      because it got stuck on followups
14:52 huginn     Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14957 new feature, P5 - low, ---, glasklas, Failed QA , Write protecting MARC fields based on source of import
14:52 ashimema   grr.. why did bug 14957 not move this cycle.. I spent ages working through it :(..
14:52 fridolin   tuxayo i've mailled my boss, saying i want to be on that
14:50 Joubu      I think cait1's opinion is needed on that one
14:50 ashimema   I agree.. ok.. I'll suggest this is the first step and he should detail his requests as followup bugs
14:49 Joubu      so basically I don't understand what Phil clearly suggests and I think the patch is correct, at least in a first step
14:48 ashimema   mmm
14:48 Joubu      sounds like it would not be a good idea
14:48 Joubu      "which would be a huge behavior change"
14:48 * ashimema is re-reading the comment
14:47 ashimema   hmm.. I think it might be yes
14:47 Joubu      is his suggestion to make 942 mandatory?
14:46 tuxayo     When that will begin. There should be around 6 months before the release. According to a dev on the ES forum.
14:46 tuxayo     fridolin: still no sign of version 8 alpha. https://github.com/elastic/elasticsearch/tags
14:46 ashimema   as those rules aren't enforced strictly enough.
14:46 ashimema   basically he says it's not good enough to just add the rule.
14:45 Joubu      ashimema: What's his question?
14:45 ashimema   and we might want to followup with stricter restrictions around that code as subsequent bugs
14:45 tuxayo     *ES 6 will be unsuported
14:44 tuxayo     Thanks fridolin if ES 8 comes out, ES will be unsuported
14:44 ashimema   personally.. I think the code here is a good first step..
14:44 ashimema   did you have a response for Phil Joubu?
14:44 huginn     Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25449 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Make itemtype mandatory by default
14:44 ashimema   bug 25449
14:44 fridolin   Joubu++
14:43 fridolin   to ES7 and behond ...
14:43 oleonard   Joubu++
14:43 fridolin   i'll try to work on that
14:43 tuxayo     Joubu++ and thanks all :)
14:43 huginn     Bug 25439: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , [Omnibus] Prepare Koha to ElasticSearch 7 - ES7
14:43 fridolin   Keep in mind ES7 https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25439
14:43 cait1      Joubu++
14:43 huginn     Log:            https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/development_irc_meeting_5_may_2021.2021-05-05-14.07.log.html
14:43 huginn     Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/development_irc_meeting_5_may_2021.2021-05-05-14.07.txt
14:43 huginn     Minutes:        https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/development_irc_meeting_5_may_2021.2021-05-05-14.07.html
14:43 huginn     Meeting ended Wed May  5 14:43:22 2021 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
14:43 Joubu      #endmeeting
14:43 cait1      go
14:43 cait1      :)
14:43 Joubu      1
14:43 Joubu      2
14:43 Joubu      3
14:42 Joubu      #info Next meeting: 19 May 2021, 14 UTC
14:42 Joubu      #topic Set time of next meeting
14:42 Joubu      something else?
14:41 Joubu      #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...)
14:41 Joubu      #action kidclamp Ask the ML for additional info about how to implement opt-out for notices. One idea would be to have "My message" at the OPAC (postponed)
14:41 Joubu      my goal for 21.11 is to work/help only things that are in the roadmap
14:41 ashimema   ta
14:41 Joubu      we will group them and form new action groups
14:40 Joubu      ashimema: I am abandoning the roadmap for 21.05 as it's too late. But will start a 21.11 one in the next 2,3 of weeks. Keep in mind your projects for 21.11 please
14:40 ashimema   hmm.. I don't remember seeing such an email either
14:39 ashimema   roadmap wise.. the slips stuff has moved a little :).. the accounts slips all now run through GetPreparredLetter.. that was my starting point ;)
14:39 Joubu      I don't think I saw it on the list
14:39 Joubu      * kidclamp Ask the ML for additional info about how to implement opt-out for notices. One idea would be to have "My message" at the OPAC
14:39 ashimema   yes please
14:39 Joubu      #action ashimema Write a coding guideline to clarify our message types: 'alert' vs 'error' (context of bug 27695)
14:38 Joubu      do I postpone it?
14:38 ashimema   so please postpone it one last time :(!
14:38 ashimema   been trying to fit in as much QA as possible instead.
14:38 ashimema   no, I think I need to regroup on writing that beggining of next cycle at this point
14:38 Joubu      ashimema: nothing has moved
14:38 ashimema   oh, ok
14:38 Joubu      did you?
14:38 huginn     Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27695 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to stable , Fix style of messages on Elasticsearch configuration page
14:38 ashimema   ES Tests - Assume that's not moved :(
14:38 Joubu      * ashimema Write a coding guideline to clarify our message types: 'alert' vs 'error' (context of bug 27695)
14:38 Joubu      #topic Actions from last meeting
14:37 Joubu      (insert void here)
14:37 Joubu      #topic Status of roadmap projects
14:37 cait1      moving on
14:37 cait1      yep
14:37 ashimema   totally
14:37 cait1      so it's as always a matter of balance
14:37 cait1      i just think out of fairness we need to avoid having stuff sittitng for too long waiting
14:37 Joubu      moving on?
14:37 cait1      yes
14:36 ashimema   deffo the next few weeks is easy to choose
14:36 Joubu      and you have 2 days for small enhancements
14:36 Joubu      or find bugs
14:36 Joubu      it's quite easy for the next couple of weeks to choose, it's either bugfixes to write/test/QA
14:36 ashimema   oldest first.. I'd suggest when pikcing a bug.. it's often worthwhile poking the dev to arrange a mutually agreeable slot..
14:35 ashimema   yeah. lets try to get some moving after this meeting
14:34 ashimema   regarding "oldest first".. I struggle at times doing that when it often takes a while for devs to get back to queries for older ones.. it's a hard thing to juggle
14:34 cait1      maybe we could discuss some of them on irc (outside the meeting)
14:34 ashimema   I'm not sure how to get them moving again
14:33 ashimema   There's a fair few 'In discussion' on the rel_21_05 and RM priority list right now
14:33 cait1      I hope
14:33 cait1      i have neglected the old bugs in favor of the bad bugs a bit... but it's really hard to choose, more hands should help
14:33 cait1      I'd also like to put a bit more focus on "oldest first" next release cycle
14:33 * ashimema cuaght back up the leaderboard by the end of the month
14:33 cait1      still as always tons to do, please QA away with RM priorities in mind for release!
14:32 cait1      thanks to everyone doing QA the last few weeks!
14:32 cait1      oops, almost missd my topic
14:32 Joubu      #topic Updates from the QA team
14:32 ashimema   lol
14:32 tuxayo     fridolin: yep: http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2021-05-05#i_2350959
14:31 Joubu      yes fridolin, maybe kidclamp or khall. Or it will be you
14:31 fridolin   https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_21.11
14:31 fridolin   we search a Rmaint for 21.05.x right ?
14:31 tuxayo     fridolin++
14:31 tuxayo     19.11 is fine
14:31 Joubu      #info May stable releases planned on 24/25th
14:30 cait1      fridolin++
14:30 * fridolin will continue RMaint on this branch for next cycle
14:30 fridolin   :D
14:30 fridolin   no big problems with 20.11.x I'd say /D
14:30 fridolin   24/25 I mean
14:30 ashimema   :)
14:29 fridolin   We will release around 25/26 may, to be before 21.05 release
14:29 Joubu      #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers
14:29 Joubu      any questions about 21.05?
14:29 Joubu      #link https://frama.link/koha_bz_rel_21_05_candidate # This is the list of things you must keep an eye on for the next couple of weeks
14:28 fridolin   #info Fridolin Somers, Biblibre, France
14:28 Joubu      hard feature freeze ends in a couple of days
14:28 Joubu      not much to say, release is approaching, keep an eyes on the 21.05 tags. https://frama.link/koha_bz_rel_21_05_candidate
14:28 Joubu      #topic Update from the Release Manager (21.05)
14:28 * fridolin sorry I had netwrok issues
14:27 ashimema   lol
14:27 Joubu      ok, moving on?
14:27 caroline   you have been volunteered as tribute
14:27 huginn     Joubu: The operation succeeded.
14:27 Joubu      @later tell AndrewFH we all think you would be a great IRC meeting facilitator https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Project_roles#IRC_meeting_facilitator Are you willing to try it for the next release cycle?
14:26 Joubu      AndrewFH
14:26 ashimema   Andrew for what.. IRC Facilitator.. which Andrew?
14:26 Joubu      cait1: I will send him an email after the meeting
14:25 cait1      Andrew maybe?
14:25 cait1      bernardo might just need to be asked - not sure how close he follows mailing list/release schedule
14:25 ashimema   Does Todd or anyone from KohaUS think the facilitator role might fit with their mantra?
14:25 cait1      :)
14:24 ashimema   maybe co-manage.. I'll grab her later and see what she says :)
14:24 caroline   if she wants to take a swing at being manager I'd be happy to let her, or we could co-manage
14:23 caroline   lucy is already a great help! she's my #1 <3
14:22 caroline   I don't think i'm orgnized enough to do that
14:22 Joubu      Prepare in advance Chair Keep track of the actions for the next meeting and ping individual to know the progress Make a resume of the progress of the roadmap Anticipate with the next meeting date (watch out the timezones) Run the meeting script
14:22 ashimema   caroline, I could pursuade lucy to help on docs ;)
14:22 Joubu      The community has general and development IRC meetings respectively every 1 month and 2 weeks. The goal of this new role (from 21.11 development cycle) would be to:
14:22 Joubu      https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Project_roles#IRC_meeting_facilitator
14:22 caroline   what is irc facilitator?
14:22 tuxayo     Indeed
14:22 tuxayo     > it's QA time that will be spend on RMaint
14:22 ashimema   tcohen.. is bernardo still OK doing translation management?
14:22 tuxayo     The RMaint of stable?
14:22 tuxayo     > we could share it
14:22 oleonard   Joubu: Sorry I can't take on anything new at the moment
14:22 Joubu      or.. caroline?
14:21 cait1      I didn't have the same feeling and still have tons to translate for 20.11 manual
14:21 Joubu      oleonard: not interested by the new "IRC meeting facilitator" role?
14:21 khall_     #info Kyle Hall, ByWater Solutions
14:21 caroline   I can do docs if no one wants to,,, I feel like I slacked off big time this cycle
14:21 Joubu      (but it's QA time that will be spend on RMaint.. :-/)
14:21 cait1      (thought that would work better than puppy eyes in this case)
14:21 ashimema   perhaps we could share it kidclamp?
14:21 tuxayo     oh right 😱
14:21 tuxayo     > translation managers
14:20 cait1      caroline: maybe? *kitty eyes*
14:20 cait1      also still need documentation and translation managers i see
14:20 cait1      thx :)
14:20 tuxayo     Thanks for considering the thing :D
14:20 Joubu      thanks kidclamp!
14:20 kidclamp   will let you know ASAP
14:20 kidclamp   We are discussing - Kyle or I might be able to
14:20 tuxayo     Not a secret, their upgrade to 20.11 should be in july in case that info helps
14:19 Joubu      kidclamp: do you know if someone at bywater is willing to maintain 21.05? :)
14:19 oleonard   Everyone should alternate .11 or .05 XD
14:18 tuxayo     Yes
14:18 tuxayo     > that's why Fridolin is sticking to the .11
14:18 cait1      we aim for .11 at the moment, but we arenot set at it
14:18 ashimema   I could take on a .11, but the .05 aren't used by ptfs-e now so that would be a harder sell
14:18 Joubu      Which "older information" are you talking about?
14:18 tuxayo     only .11
14:18 tuxayo     > utilise every release
14:18 tuxayo     could bit also, since I took oldoldstable ^^"
14:18 tuxayo     > maybe just starting out with the oldest
14:18 * ashimema is wondering if that's why Fridolin is sticking to the .11
14:17 ashimema   do biblibre utilise every release or are they a .11's only shop.. or similar
14:17 cait1      ah ok, so not sure
14:17 tuxayo     could be
14:17 tuxayo     > Catalyst want to stay on 19.11
14:17 cait1      it's a good "start out" one
14:17 cait1      or maybe just starting out with the oldest?
14:17 * oleonard wonders what that's about
14:16 Joubu      oleonard: I guess Catalyst want to stay on 19.11 and so maintain it a bit longer
14:16 tuxayo     I was thinking that we might have to do that. A bit scared by oldstable but I should survive ^^"
14:16 tuxayo     > Could each release maintainer move up one release
14:16 cait1      Joubu++ nugged++
14:16 Joubu      thx thd
14:15 ashimema   That's great to see :)
14:15 cait1      Joubu: sorry got called away - then we can maybe remove documentation for the older information from the wiki, let me know and i can do an update
14:15 Joubu      and... anyone interested by the new "IRC meeting facilitator" role?
14:15 oleonard   Could each release maintainer move up one release and we'll drop support for 19.11 if necessary?
14:15 tuxayo     yep, Joubu++
14:15 Joubu      nugged++
14:15 Joubu      we have 2 newcomers for the QA team
14:15 tuxayo     lol
14:15 oleonard   Joubu thanks for staying on for another release
14:15 Joubu      we need a RMaint for 21.05 (or... I don't release it :D)
14:14 tuxayo     yep that looks good :)
14:14 ashimema   not seen that for a while
14:14 thd        This file should be a more manageable archive in a few minutes, https://test01.agogme.com/koha_migrate_mwiki_db_and_upgrade_test.tgz .
14:14 Joubu      there are some "slot" still available
14:14 ashimema   stable, oldstable, oldoldstable and oldoldoldstable..
14:14 ashimema   ooh.. we're going for the full compliment I see..
14:14 Joubu      yes, I wanted to highlight it in the next topic
14:13 tuxayo     https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_21.11
14:13 tuxayo     We have an almost complete 21.11 team :D The major thing missing is an RMaint for stable
14:13 thd        I will be updating the linked archive in the bug report.
14:13 tuxayo     +1, so there isn't much pressure if on server is down
14:13 tuxayo     > spreading the load sandboxes
14:12 ashimema   very nice to be spreading the load sandboxes wise.. It'll be great having that extra set of eyes on bugs and improvements to make the sandboxes all the more usable
14:12 Joubu      thd: can you remind us where you put the code please?
14:11 Joubu      I am planning to spend a bit of time on it to fix some bugs
14:11 Joubu      cait1: yes
14:11 thd        I am about to post an update to Koha Wiki Database Migration and Upgrade scripts which will be more than an order of magnitude smaller for copying files for installation without redundancy in the archive.  Sorry for anyone who might have looked previously.
14:11 Joubu      anyone else?
14:11 cait1      will it be using the "newer" sandbox system?
14:10 Joubu      not a big server but scalable when needed for hackfest
14:10 cait1      lds++ biblibre++ Joubu++
14:10 tuxayo     lds++
14:10 tuxayo     biblibre++
14:10 ashimema   :)
14:10 tuxayo     :D
14:10 cait1      sounds great
14:10 Joubu      lds++
14:10 Joubu      biblibre++
14:10 Joubu      The goal is to make some instances available to the community to test the incoming release
14:10 ashimema   sandboxes++
14:10 ashimema   Joubu++
14:09 Joubu      I was in a meeting with BibLibre's sysop to get a new server for sandboxes. I have full access and will start the install very soon
14:09 cait1      #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany
14:09 Joubu      #topic Announcements
14:08 ashimema   #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe
14:08 tuxayo     I need to make a bookmark folder with the meeting links useful to chair  ^^
14:08 thd        #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City
14:08 kidclamp   #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions
14:08 oleonard   #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA
14:08 wahanui    rmaints is probably fridolin, AndrewFH and tuxayo
14:08 Joubu      rmaints?
14:08 wahanui    qa_team is cait, dcook, amoyano, ashimema, marcelr, kohaputti, jajm, tcohen, josef_moravec, kidclamp, khall and tuxayo
14:08 Joubu      qa_team?
14:08 tuxayo     thanks :D
14:08 tuxayo     #info tuxayo/Victor Grousset, France
14:08 Joubu      #info Jonathan Druart
14:07 Joubu      #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_5_May_2021
14:07 Joubu      #topic Introductions
14:07 huginn     The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_5_may_2021'
14:07 huginn     Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
14:07 huginn     Meeting started Wed May  5 14:07:34 2021 UTC.  The chair is Joubu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
14:07 Joubu      #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 5 May 2021
14:07 Joubu      starting now
14:07 Joubu      sorry, I was in a meeting
14:07 thd        tuxayo1: Yes of course, but maybe you should also try summoning Joubu etc.
14:06 cait1      i am too late... b
14:06 cait1      hm no dev meeting?
14:06 oleonard   Did everyone disappear (I did momentarily)
14:05 tuxayo1    Shall I chair?
13:49 magnuse    yup
13:47 caroline   (at least in that case there is only one word to translate)
13:47 caroline   I bet it says that the number of %s doesn't match
13:47 ashimema   yikes
13:47 magnuse    gotta love translation strings like %s %s %s %s %s %s %s %s "%s %sby %s%s" %s "%s" %s "%s" %s "%s" %s "%s" %s "%s" %s "%s" %s "%s" %s "%s" %s "%s" %s "%s" %s "%s" %s "%s" %s "%s" %s "%s"␠
13:45 ashimema   Yowsers, that's come around quick.
13:45 oleonard   Dev meeting in 15?
13:37 ashimema   hi tuxayo1 :)
13:37 tuxayo1    Hi #koha :)
13:25 ashimema   though I'd like to switch that to using the API's to drive it.
13:25 ashimema   if it were me, I'd probably base at least some of it in the rowGrouping code I used in the cash management register pages
13:25 ashimema   if they want to code on it, I'd be happy to help with testing/qa or guiding round the code a bit..
13:24 ashimema   oh, I hadn't realised Andreas had left, that's a shame
13:24 magnuse    it came up in the swedish slack channel today
13:24 ashimema   thanks :)
13:24 magnuse    i have mentioned your willingness to work on it :-)
13:23 magnuse    dunno, stockholm uni wanted to do something about it, but then andreas left and they had to "pause" it. but i think they were more interested in spending time than money on it...
13:22 ashimema   it's an area close to my heart ;)
13:22 ashimema   can you see any support for developing those accounts things coming out of Sweden?
13:22 ashimema   :')
13:21 magnuse    ashimema: lucky you ;-)
12:35 ashimema   hence why I've got my name against allot more SIP and EDI stuff now.. scary stuff those two
12:34 ashimema   couple of weeks back
12:34 ashimema   He's retired
12:30 magnuse    oh noes, no more colin?
12:29 ashimema   if they fancied sponsoring the work I might be able to get ptfs-e to take it on... though having lost Colin recently and with FOLIO taking time it's basically just me on Koha for a while.
12:28 ashimema   I do tiny bits towards it in my free time occasionally.. but really haven't made much headway.
12:28 ashimema   no-one here has funded it so it's kinda stuck..
12:27 ashimema   but..
12:27 ashimema   well.. I'd love to work on it and have idea's of how it could be achieved..
12:27 ashimema   ah, yes
12:24 magnuse    someone in sweden was asking if anyone was doing anything about https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Account_view_RFC
12:24 ashimema   what are you looking for?
12:24 ashimema   so yes if probably the short answer
12:23 magnuse    hehe
12:23 ashimema   I've had my fingers all over accounts
12:23 magnuse    ashimema: were you working on fines and how they are presented to the user, or am i confusing that with the cash register stuff?
11:51 tcohen     https://gitlab.com/thekesolutions/Koha/-/commits/bug_28273_multi_holds
11:51 tcohen     I'm only missing the step of validating that some titles don't have a pickup location set, and the UI should tell the staff member to fill those, or uncheck
11:51 * ashimema feels guilty for all the distractions he threw your way yesterday.
11:51 ashimema   need a hand?
11:50 tcohen     when my brain got stuck yesterday
11:50 tcohen     I uploaded my work on 28273 to a branch
11:50 ashimema   brain is fuzzy today
11:50 ashimema   oop, yes
11:50 huginn     Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28273 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, NEW , Multi-holds allow invalid pickup locations
11:50 Joubu      there is also bug 28273
11:49 Joubu      ashimema: 21.05 you meant?
11:49 huginn     Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28261 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Add visual feedback on overridden pickup locations on patron's page
11:49 * ashimema thinks bug 28261 should get the rel_20_11_candidate tag btw... it's the last missing piece, as far as I can tell, in that tree
11:48 ashimema   though.. many of them are also wanting to switch to using the API's directly, instead of the bulk import tools
11:47 ashimema   they want feedback for missing mandatory fields and things
11:47 ashimema   silently skipping is actually seen as a bug by our customers ;)
11:19 Joubu      tcohen: can you comment on the bug please?
11:01 tcohen     specially for mandatory attributes
11:00 tcohen     I think we could change that behavior Joubu
10:59 tcohen     morning
10:42 Joubu      skip => silently ignore the attribute but process the other data
10:42 Joubu      ashimema: it seems that the historical behavior has been to skip them, that's why I am a bit reluctant to change it
10:23 ashimema   who added that.. it's great!
10:23 ashimema   rofl
10:23 wahanui    i heard cait around was cait cait1 cait2 cait3 cait4 cait5
10:23 ashimema   cait around?
09:58 ashimema   it it's invalid at this branch it's a harder call... there are use cases for bulk manipulating patrons that should be library agnostic..
09:57 ashimema   if it's entirely invalid I would say we should catch and skip the patron.. then list errors in the final response
09:56 ashimema   i.e. is it 'invalid because it's not one that available at "this" library.. or is it completely invalid.. in that it doesn't exist at any library?
09:54 ashimema   with bulk import.. are we setting an 'acting library'..
09:54 * ashimema contemplates
09:39 Joubu      Should we, 1. explode (skip the whole patron) in both case or 2. do the job but ignore the invalid attributes?
09:39 Joubu      When a new patron is imported with an invalid patron attribute we explode. When the patron's attributes are overwritten during an import, we silently ignore them.
09:39 Joubu      from the last comment:
09:38 huginn     Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28220 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , Exception not caught when importing patrons with invalid attribute type
09:38 Joubu      Opinions on bug 28220?
07:51 ambro      hi
06:50 alex_a     Bonjour
06:38 reiveune   hello
06:24 * magnuse  waves
06:11 dcook      Fair enough. I hope you have a good sleep, tuxayo.
06:11 dcook      hehe
06:04 tuxayo     Officially yes. But right now as I'll soon go to bed, that means I'm on Easter Island or US Mountain time ^^
05:53 dcook      Are you on France time?
05:53 dcook      That would be awesome :)
05:47 tuxayo     Noted, will try the 3 "tomorrow"
05:44 dcook      With 21249, I'm happy to do QA if someone wants to do a sign off in place of mine
05:43 dcook      Nothing wrong with wasting time and don't feel obligated if you're busy!
05:41 tuxayo     Yay, Koha stuff, thats a good use of time 😃
05:41 tuxayo     Wasting time on other things...
05:40 huginn     Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15516 new feature, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, ASSIGNED , Allow to place a hold on first available item from a group of titles
05:40 dcook      Aleisha and I are trying to get those and bug 15516 through
05:40 huginn     Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21249 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Needs Signoff , Syspref to choose whether to search homebranch, holding branch or both for library groups in advanced search
05:40 huginn     Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15565 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Signed Off , Place multiple holds at once for the same record in OPAC
05:40 dcook      I was wondering if you could have a look at bug 15565 and bug 21249
05:39 dcook      I don't know how you do it O_O
05:39 dcook      hehe
05:39 tuxayo     dcook: unfortunately yes ^^"
05:37 dcook      tuxayo: I don't suppose you're still awake?