Time Nick Message 21:18 tuxayo *can be accessed 21:18 * tuxayo discover after a year that a Koha using koha-testing-docker can't accessed via localhost instead of an IP that changes each time it's launched. 20:02 tuxayo indeed! 19:52 AndrewFH well, maybe not exactly the same as I give it another look. very close 19:52 huginn Bug 25969: major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to master , Checking in a found hold at a different branch then confirming the hold causes internal server error 19:52 AndrewFH yeah, same bug behavior but apparently a different cause. https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25969 19:51 tuxayo AndrewFH: you mean another similar bug affecting on 20.11? 19:50 AndrewFH annoying bug, we just fixed the same thing in 20.11 19:49 tuxayo great, thanks :D 19:49 AndrewFH he wanted one to make sure that the circ rules were allowing you to place a bib-level hold, rather than item-level 19:48 AndrewFH oh, you're still around! I eventually noticed the bug you linked and figure out what didier meant 19:48 tuxayo Let me check 19:48 tuxayo Hi AndrewFH :) 18:34 AndrewFH fourth column from the right on the big circ rules table, "OPAC item level holds" gives you the options Allow, Don't Allow, Force 18:32 AndrewFH tuxayo do you mean item level holds? 17:28 caroline I think maybe when you place the hold, don't choose a specific item 17:24 caroline :( sorry 17:24 caroline I have no idea what did meant 17:22 oleonard Also, you won't offend anyone if you speak French here :) 17:22 huginn Bug 28259: major, P5 - low, ---, didier.gautheron, Needs Signoff , Checking at branch B an item in waiting hold state at branch A kill koha 17:22 tuxayo step 2 ^^ 17:22 tuxayo caroline: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28259#c1 17:22 caroline tuxayo: what are you trying to do? (you can answer in french in dm if you need to) 17:20 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master build #1638: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 0 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/1638/ 16:59 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10_CPAN build #317: SUCCESS in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10_CPAN/317/ 16:58 tuxayo I'm trying to set hold rules on next available item. But I can't find it in the circ rules page. Is that named something else? 16:36 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11 build #282: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 15 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11/282/ 16:34 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #562: FIXED in 1 hr 12 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/562/ 16:34 wahanui Congratulations! 16:34 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 16:33 tuxayo pra: what do you means by cloud environment? renting a VM with a full fledged OS with admin access to it? 16:32 tuxayo pra: doc: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Debian 16:31 tuxayo hi pra :) 16:28 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10_CPAN build #316: FIXED in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10_CPAN/316/ 16:28 wahanui Congratulations! 16:28 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 16:28 pra Hi , Everyone . I am planning to install koha on a cloud environment , which one better AWS or Azure . Could you please documentation if any. 16:24 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1641: FIXED in 1 hr 0 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1641/ 16:24 wahanui Congratulations! 16:24 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 16:19 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U_Stable build #171: STILL UNSTABLE in 57 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U_Stable/171/ 15:58 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #581: FIXED in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/581/ 15:58 wahanui Congratulations! 15:58 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 15:25 tuxayo ^^ 15:22 nlegrand (V) (°,,,,°) (V) bye! 15:22 tuxayo o/ ashimema 15:21 ashimema and anyone else that may not catch 15:21 ashimema have a great weekend guys and gals. 15:21 tuxayo Joubu++ 15:21 * ashimema watches his inbox fill up for monday morning 15:21 Joubu here we go, bye #koha, enjoy your weekend! 15:21 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27061: Remove duplicate permission check in svc/mana/search <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=915c5d13bea82d8ff76e2c76525aa70a1f22961e> 15:21 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27932: Unit tests <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5047557cbf3b33e3066fcd5d0ff65cebcf78c230> 15:21 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27932: Add GET /biblios/:biblio_id/pickup_locations route <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2db98432d85568943c92bb1cd092960edb1e64eb> 15:21 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27864: Visual feedback on overridden pickup locations when placing hold <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fd5e603c3d80975867d95bdd7de714a16b58c0fd> 15:21 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27864: Correct dropdown size <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=153160723398623e3c802134d49d7c83a2603fd9> 15:21 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28170: Fix upload.tt search result buttons for page two onwards <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1b1dbee18fcd0d55065b0758690c0c58296e6029> 15:21 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28217: Prevent several non-repeatable attributes to be merged <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=92db5e22474bec148cf4346300bc246bedbc6a7c> 15:21 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28207: Fix biblio_framework.frameworktext isn't in GROUP BY <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f3b28bfe44bfbf1a7d0bf771bb7e3476faa2c117> 15:21 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27864: (QA follow-up) Remove size=1 on selects (28066 follow-up) <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f4fe7ac0864a330c7f1514f135abd70f54720cd3> 15:21 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28244: Fix typo in Ukrainian in language tables in English <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=945548533bac519ff66f9af429954586e58ee883> 15:21 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28250: Remove upload of debug for Selenium failures <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a4da4b75686015a2a25f3ed81768d18023561c40> 15:21 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28249: Prevent Selenium->wait_for_element_visible to fall in an infinite loop <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e751ce8cf2be1648fe424d08d9eefeb75d639967> 15:21 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28258: Update bad formatting in AUTO_RENEWALS notice <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d8491c6eb294a3cfb77665daa444682e7bee8dd5> 15:21 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28258: Fix existing occurrence <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d299e1ffc6372fb9768b8baaea86d20d5380e009> 15:21 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28244: Fix typo in Ukrainian in history <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eaddf573e9accc603f6a3d56b3570cb62d6fa9b1> 15:21 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28244: DBRev 20.12.00.044 <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=36c54d818578e4853254e80d6c59ba7cb3db5bd1> 15:21 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28258: DBRev 20.12.00.043 <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e09cfd5d55291b6046272bd45d53a9dab5d8c668> 15:20 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28270: (bug 24279 follow-up) Fix tooltip for the claim lost status <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=47ecad6ad74262a6871a4dd4b17ae947b023ef08> 15:20 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27864: (QA follow-up) Hide logged-in option if invalid pickup location <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9fa87a516158ba86028167a3b24026e706d130a6> 15:20 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27864: (QA follow-up) Select2 style on multi-holds <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8fe090ffe3ba8e2ecff3011ef1b967fcc198bada> 15:17 Joubu back 15:16 reiveune bye 15:16 ashimema mmm, I agree 15:16 Joubu I'd have prefered with Jenkins happy 15:15 ashimema does ttat mean it's time to clock off for the day. 15:15 ashimema :D 15:15 ashimema bad Joubu 15:14 Joubu it's not me, I promise! 15:14 ashimema hum.. seems so 15:14 Joubu did we just lose bugzilla when I was going to push? 15:13 Joubu push push push 15:07 tuxayo After all, git installs are there to make it easy to add patches. 15:07 tuxayo I was thinking about prod install there are at least around 200 of them ^^ . But that would work to not have NodeJS installed on each the instance if there is compilation commit added before deployment. 15:07 tuxayo tcohen: about git installs and compiling SCSS. «we devs build it on our environment as needed, and packaging does it as well» 15:00 tuxayo lol 14:56 Joubu maybe, but won't pass QA 14:55 Joubu 14."Signing Off" 14:55 Joubu https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/!_(Trippie_Redd_album)?#Track_listing 14:55 nlegrand :D 14:55 oleonard Now we have a higher standard to strive for. 14:55 oleonard The standard for good relevance searching used to be Stephen King's "It" 14:54 caroline your cataloguers should add a 246$a "Exclamationpoint" 14:54 oleonard Well done Wikipedia! 14:54 tuxayo ! some people did it! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/!_(disambiguation)#Music 14:52 oleonard If you try to search for it by title on the streaming service (Hoopla) you get an error, "Your search term must be at least 2 characters long." XD 14:52 oleonard https://search.myacpl.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=623604 14:50 tuxayo !!! 14:50 Joubu !!! 14:49 oleonard I can't decide if Koha should be able to find a record titled "!" or if I should just let it never be found, as a natural consequence for naming your work "!" 14:47 oleonard Exactly! 14:46 tuxayo oleonard: internet connection is bad in Mauritius so you *need* to be there to work 14:45 tuxayo hi #koha :) 14:36 ashimema scary how fast the time is going 14:36 ashimema I did 14:32 Joubu You all noticed that tomorrow is soft ft freeze, right? 14:25 ashimema sounds like one of our peeps have heard of them 14:24 ashimema ooh.. 14:24 ashimema or more directly to andrew.auld@ptfs-europe.com 14:23 ashimema info@ptfs-europe.com should do the trick I think 14:23 * oleonard has yet to be taken up on this kind of offer 14:22 caroline on-site OPAC customization lol! 14:22 ashimema sure 14:22 ashimema funny.. that's just what was going through my mind.. hehe 14:22 caroline cn I give them your (PTFSe) info? 14:22 ashimema hehe.. 14:21 * oleonard volunteers to accept an all-expenses-paid trip to Mauritius to do on-site OPAC customization 14:20 ashimema new one to me 14:19 wahanui well, like is it possible to translate to all calendar systems you use from one calendar system 14:19 caroline I'm like what? 14:19 caroline They wrote to us saying they're from the UK and want training for a library in Mauritius 14:18 caroline ashimema: does Mallory International ring a bell? 14:18 ashimema that's a remarkably good combination 14:18 ashimema bourbon, bacon and pinapple 14:17 ashimema I have at least a couple of desert recipes that use bacon 14:17 ashimema sounds like my kinda cookbook magnuse 14:16 magnuse there is a norwegian cookbook called "everything is better with bacon" 14:16 cait1 have a nice weekend all - I'll take a last dive into tickets and such :) 14:16 * magnuse wanders off to make pizza and wishes #koha a nice weekend 14:15 cait1 i gave you all ideas... 14:15 cait1 lol 14:15 * oleonard could try adding bacon to the chocolate-pecan pie 14:15 cait1 ashimema: savoury without chocolate... the chocolate was meant for oleonard 14:15 oleonard It's a hazard of these meetings! 14:14 oleonard :D 14:14 caroline sorry for rushing, but im starving 14:14 cait1 me too :) 14:14 * caroline is hungry 14:14 huginn Log: https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/cookbook_meeting_30_april_2021.2021-04-30-13.37.log.html 14:14 huginn Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/cookbook_meeting_30_april_2021.2021-04-30-13.37.txt 14:14 huginn Minutes: https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/cookbook_meeting_30_april_2021.2021-04-30-13.37.html 14:14 huginn Meeting ended Fri Apr 30 14:14:25 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 14:14 caroline #endmeeting 14:14 caroline I'll let you guys talk pecan pie, and Imma go finish my breakfast 14:13 caroline #info Next meeting: 14 May, 2021 14:30 UTC 14:13 tcohen derivative work 14:13 magnuse yeah 14:13 oleonard "my own words" == "very modified" ? 14:13 caroline ok then 14:12 magnuse oleonard: just rewrite it in your own words? 14:12 oleonard cait1: I'm looking through my recipes for ones sourced "Grandmother" ;) 14:12 Joubu will postpone if needed 14:12 Joubu no caroline, it wasn't about the release. Go for May 14th 14:12 ashimema sure I can find/come up with something ;) 14:12 ashimema savoury and with chocolate.. hmm.. that would probably be more of a baked cheesecake type afair than an pie 14:12 cait1 oleonard: aaah i see, but i am sure you got other good ones maybe? 14:12 magnuse ashimema: both 14:12 Joubu s 14:12 oleonard cait1: I feel like I can't because I got it from a published article :( 14:12 Joubu but could be good to have a first overview of the submission 14:12 cait1 it's not a thing here 14:12 caroline beginning of june? 14:11 cait1 I've always wanted to try a savoury one 14:11 caroline after release then? 14:11 magnuse i'll probably be offline then, but don't mind me 14:11 ashimema I can do pie.. sweat or savoury cait1 ;)? 14:11 cait1 the one with chocolate? 14:11 caroline oh right bc of the koha release 14:11 cait1 oleonard: can we get your pecan pie recipe? 14:11 cait1 ashimema: a pie would be great actually 14:11 Joubu sounds early to me 14:11 ashimema sounds good to me 14:11 caroline same time 14:11 ashimema haha.. 'English breakfast'.. the Welsh and Scotts might have something to say about that. 14:10 caroline how about may 14th for next meeting? 14:10 * magnuse plans an english breakfast for this weekend 14:10 Joubu meat pie, fish and chips, english breakfast, those are 100% british/UK ;) 14:10 caroline ^ yup 14:10 ashimema and is always looking for more food inspirations.. as people can probably tell from the Signal group chat ;) 14:09 oleonard Yeah us colonizers have trouble knowing what our traditional food is. 14:09 * ashimema eats almost anything ;) 14:09 magnuse true! 14:09 caroline Of course, I want to try food from elsewhere, but if wood fired pizza is what you eat, I'd say it's your culture :D 14:09 ashimema coolios 14:09 magnuse hehe 14:09 * ashimema struggles to think of what's '"British"'.. we get inspired/steal food from everywhere 14:09 cait1 i'd not be unhappy about some more from you :) 14:09 caroline ashimema: I think you can do anything 14:09 cait1 magnuse: i think just wait and see and cut if it gets too much? 14:09 magnuse ashimema: i'd say anything goes 14:08 caroline #info goal is to have the print book by the end of 2021 14:08 ashimema silly question.. are we generally aiming to stick to our local foods.. so we get a nice spread of cultures? 14:08 magnuse what did we decide about people submitting more than one receipe? 14:08 caroline #info Deadline for sumbissions is July 31st (can be extended if needed) 14:08 * magnuse will make pizza when meeting is done 14:07 magnuse caroline: sounds good 14:07 * ashimema contemplates wood fired pizza now 14:07 caroline for deadline? 14:07 caroline alright how about july 31st? 14:07 ashimema mmm, asado 14:07 cait1 lol 14:07 tcohen Ohhhhh 14:07 Joubu (at least for the picture, don't forget the wine) 14:07 Joubu tcohen: hope you are going to submit a recipe of an Argentinian asado to compare with Brendan's 14:07 ashimema hehe 14:07 caroline I wasn't sure for winter 14:07 ashimema I was just thinking from the when to release it perspective. 14:06 caroline I added the summer tag 14:06 cait1 could be another thign to tag 14:06 ashimema if it's a general mix that's cool 14:06 caroline And Nick's recipe call for dandelion flowers 14:06 cait1 koha for all seasons :) 14:06 magnuse yeah 14:06 cait1 maybe bbq is more summer but a hen fricassee is more a wintery dish? 14:06 magnuse yeah 14:06 caroline well, Joy made an ice cream recipe, so I'd say that's seasonal 14:06 cait1 i think they are not seasonal so far .. or more different seasons probably 14:06 magnuse oh we do :-) 14:06 ashimema ignore me 14:05 ashimema ho... we're so international that wouldn't matter 14:05 ashimema i.e does it need to line up with a season 14:05 ashimema I've not looked yet.. are the recipes especially seasonal or more general? 14:05 magnuse exactly 14:05 magnuse yeah, print book for xmas is a good goal 14:05 cait1 that would also give time for refinements, figuring out book printing 14:05 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_U2010 build #76: SUCCESS in 51 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_U2010/76/ 14:04 caroline I think it would be nice to get the print book fro xmas 14:04 cait1 say.. 3 months from now about? 14:04 cait1 maybe sometime between releases for some buzz then? 14:04 ashimema I can trust it'll get done that way.. else we might be waiting a while :P 14:04 ashimema only if you're still in charge of that Joubu.. 14:04 magnuse "before xmas" 14:04 magnuse hehe 14:04 Joubu release when the wiki migration is done 14:04 * magnuse too 14:04 caroline I'd say separate 14:03 cait1 release with koha release... separate from it? 14:03 cait1 waht would be a good dealine? 14:03 magnuse yes! 14:03 cait1 you are a heroine caroline :) 14:03 caroline #action caroline to add prep/cooking time to recipetemplate 14:03 cait1 or make a "volume 2" 14:03 magnuse we can always extend it... 14:03 cait1 it can be helpful 14:03 cait1 but could we add a note/suggestion to template? 14:03 magnuse a deadline might inspire people to actually submit? 14:02 cait1 sure, optional is fine 14:02 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D11 build #107: STILL UNSTABLE in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_D11/107/ 14:02 ashimema +1 14:02 caroline Maybe as an optional information? 14:01 cait1 prep time or cooking tim could be a nice one to add 14:01 ashimema was just contemplating how I might find a good recipe to try out on the family/the cub group etc 14:00 caroline yes 14:00 cait1 ? 14:00 cait1 as a tag 14:00 caroline maybe something like "children friendly" 14:00 * ashimema didn't want to add more work into the pile 14:00 caroline no 14:00 cait1 do we have prep time? 14:00 cait1 easier than figuring it out later 14:00 cait1 hm or maybe we shoudl add one now? 14:00 ashimema we don't have a 'complexity' rating as such do we.. that could be a helpful tag one day 13:59 caroline do we want a deadline for submissions? 13:58 magnuse lulz 13:58 * ashimema has a bunch of 6 year olds lighting fires and cooking next week.. don't think I'll be getting them to try the americans bbq recipes yet ;) 13:58 cait1 i'd probably not translate it into German for now 13:58 magnuse yeah 13:58 cait1 i'd wait until it's a little bit more stable 13:57 magnuse ashimema++ 13:57 cait1 caroline++ 13:57 magnuse i'd say we are open to translations? 13:57 caroline (I always write kookbook for some reason) 13:57 * ashimema intends to get the family cooking some of these as a QA process ;) 13:57 caroline I wasn wondering if we would want the cookbook to be translated eventually? 13:56 magnuse well done so far! 13:56 magnuse not me 13:56 caroline Anything else you think of? 13:55 caroline #action Caroline to send an email to mailing list to ask for submissions 13:55 magnuse caroline++ 13:55 cait1 forbidden myself to volunteer for more stuff .) 13:55 ashimema :) 13:55 cait1 sorry, super busy with migration and deadlines for 21.05 13:55 caroline Ok I'll do it 13:55 caroline XD 13:54 Joubu :D 13:54 Joubu good point ashimema 13:54 ashimema hehe 13:54 caroline good excuse ashimema lol! 13:54 ashimema For this, I think it would be best coming from a librarian 13:54 caroline *crickets* 13:54 caroline :D 13:54 caroline anyone ant to volunteer? 13:54 caroline Send email to the mailing list to request submissions 13:53 caroline #topic Next steps 13:53 caroline Done also 13:53 caroline Add submission info to Readme 13:53 caroline last action point from last time 13:53 caroline Yeah I think so too, it's in the next steps 13:53 cait1 but it looks like we might be ready overall for the wider audience? 13:52 cait1 i treid with the coworkers too - but no success yet 13:52 caroline cute! (BWS tweet) 13:51 caroline Ok I'll change it then 13:51 Joubu https://twitter.com/ByWaterSolution/status/1387127141649862656 13:51 oleonard "Main dishes" I think is more common in English 13:51 magnuse bywater wrote about it already 13:51 magnuse no, just wondering! 13:50 caroline I wasn't sure if "Mains" was a good term 13:50 caroline is there something you disagree with? 13:50 magnuse i don't have a lot of colleagues to ask :-) 13:50 magnuse ok 13:50 caroline magnuse: that is manual 13:50 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_U18 build #78: SUCCESS in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_U18/78/ 13:50 caroline yet, I'll have to whip them 13:50 magnuse is the ordering of things here: https://koha-community.gitlab.io/koha-cookbook/index.html automatic or manual? 13:50 caroline I asked my colleagues, but they didn't submit anything... 13:49 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_U18 build #77: SUCCESS in 1 hr 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_U18/77/ 13:49 caroline each one of us asks our colleagues for submissions to test the process and have more examples when we ask the community at large 13:49 caroline ok next point 13:49 caroline same 13:49 cait1 'd like to see what people come up with first 13:49 caroline Yeah, maybe we'll have to go back and add some tags to recipes later... we'll see 13:49 cait1 i think we can always refine/regroup those 13:48 caroline I added all sorts of tags to existing recipes, like "Entertaining" for recipes that make lots of portions 13:48 magnuse guess we'll just have to see 13:47 caroline I don't know what tags we'll receive and if it's important 13:47 cait1 it's shaping up really nicely! 13:47 caroline I edited the recipetemplate file to add the index part 13:47 caroline That is done too 13:47 oleonard Got it. I remember talking about the US-specific guidelines, but didn't remember if we came to a conclusion. 13:47 caroline modify the template to add tags/index terms at the end 13:47 caroline next action point 13:46 caroline #action Joubu will create an issue to make the index look more like a recipe book index 13:46 caroline it says Note that the Koha cookbook is a public domain (CC0) project. Therefore, recipes must be original or very modified. Do not submit a recipe that is not your own, taken from a website, a book or a magazine. 13:46 caroline oleonard: here https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_cookbook 13:46 Joubu caroline: yes I can 13:45 caroline I can do it if you don't have the time 13:45 oleonard Did we ever come to an agreement about whether adding recipes which have a known source (web site, book) is okay? 13:45 caroline do you want to create the issue? 13:45 caroline thanks! 13:45 Joubu we will create an issue and see if we can do something 13:44 Joubu or* 13:44 Joubu it should point to the recipe if there is only one of a list of the recipes having the keyword 13:44 caroline if you click on Comfort food, it goes to the first recipe and if you click on the [1] it goes to the second recipe 13:43 Joubu yes the [1] is weird 13:43 magnuse well done, anyway 13:42 caroline I don't know how to change the appearance of the index 13:42 caroline I wish it would list the recipe titles instead of comfort food, [1] 13:41 caroline Here is the rendered index https://koha-community.gitlab.io/koha-cookbook/genindex.html 13:41 magnuse i tried to render as html locally, but ran into a problem: https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-cookbook/-/issues/2 13:41 caroline ah thanks Joubu! 13:41 Joubu https://koha-community.gitlab.io/koha-cookbook/ 13:40 caroline I don't know where to find it 13:40 cait1 caroline++ 13:40 caroline ashimema, do you have the link for the rendered cookbook? 13:39 caroline I added tags for each recipe we'd already received 13:39 caroline you will see .. index:: with the tags 13:39 caroline https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-cookbook/-/blob/master/source/henfricassee.rst 13:39 caroline If you look at the source of the file here 13:38 ashimema #info Martin Renvoize, UK 13:38 caroline caroline will search how to create an index in ReStructuredText done! 13:38 caroline #topic Review of action points 13:37 cait1 #info Katrin Fischer, Germany 13:37 caroline (trying to be too quick) 13:37 magnuse #info Magnus Enger, Norway 13:37 Joubu #info Jonathan Druart 13:37 caroline #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro 13:37 oleonard-away #info Owen Leonard, slacker, Athens County Public Library, USA 13:37 caroline #Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro 13:37 caroline #topic Introductions 13:37 Joubu #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Cookbook_meeting_16_april_2021 13:37 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'cookbook_meeting_30_april_2021' 13:37 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 13:37 huginn Meeting started Fri Apr 30 13:37:07 2021 UTC. The chair is caroline. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:37 caroline #startmeeting Cookbook meeting 30 april 2021 13:36 * ashimema has been sueless and not submitted any recipes yet :( 13:36 ashimema mmm, breakfast 13:36 caroline we'll make it quick 13:35 cait1 sorry, can only spare one eye right now :) 13:35 caroline ack sorry! I was making breakfast 13:35 * ashimema has had a busy day 13:35 ashimema oh.. yes 13:34 magnuse caroline, Joubu, ashimema, cait1, oleonard-away Cookbook-meeting now, or are my time calculations off? 13:28 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D9 build #94: SUCCESS in 1 hr 9 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_D9/94/ 13:27 Joubu (not urgent :D) 13:27 Joubu you write a patch and I write a QA test? 13:26 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28272 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Definition files are missing additionalProperties: false 13:26 Joubu bug 28272 13:24 tcohen yes 13:24 Joubu well, false 13:24 Joubu ha, shouldn't it be always true? 13:23 tcohen see patron.json 13:23 tcohen that's because the definition is missing "additionalProperties": false 13:22 Joubu but I thought the PUT would have been rejected without it 13:22 Joubu tcohen: patch attached to adjust the rest api spec 13:20 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_U20 build #82: SUCCESS in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_U20/82/ 13:20 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28271 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Add the ability to set a new lost status when a claim is resolved 13:20 Joubu bug 28271 13:20 Joubu yes 28271 13:19 tcohen context? 13:19 tcohen 28271? 13:18 Joubu tcohen: I was expecting this change to fail as I didn't modify the api spec.. 13:18 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 13:18 Joubu @later tell AndrewFH bug 28271 13:15 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D10 build #98: UNSTABLE in 57 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_D10/98/ 13:13 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_U2010 build #75: SUCCESS in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_U2010/75/ 13:05 magnuse cookbook meeting in 25 minutes? 13:03 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_U16 build #78: UNSTABLE in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_U16/78/ 12:56 oleonard I've built something outside of Koha for handling this kind of thing at my library... It's called "shelf checks," and someone at each library checks a box when they've searched for it. 12:52 oleonard Right... My instinct tells me that libraries are handling part of this process outside of Koha in ways we don't understand. 12:52 tcohen or the patron phones saying they found it 12:51 tcohen or found 12:51 tcohen oleonard agreed 12:51 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_U20 build #81: SUCCESS in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_U20/81/ 12:49 oleonard If something is claimed returned I would think the library should have a way of marking that it has been searched for in the library and not found. 12:48 tcohen (i.e. for automatic changes) 12:47 tcohen that's why I say we need semantics / a table 12:47 tcohen we need to map claim resolution statuses to itemlost values 12:47 oleonard As I imagine it, there are only two paths to finding a claimed returned item: The patron looks for it and/or the library looks for it. This implies that there ought to be a built-in report on the circulation page for any items claimed returned at that library (checked out from there or having its home branch there). 12:45 Joubu you can *remove* a claim but then you lose the history 12:45 AndrewFH sounds good to me. nice next step would be something to map resolution values to lost values. so when I resolve it with resolution A it goes to lost=0 but resolution B goes to lost=1 12:43 AndrewFH oleonard, then we need a cancel method (there isn't one already, right?) 12:43 Joubu either manual (pick one itemlost value) or automatic (=0) 12:43 Joubu so resolving should lead to a itemlost update 12:43 AndrewFH sorry, huginn, I tried to make it like a slack message, my bad 12:43 huginn tcohen: I've exhausted my database of quotes 12:43 tcohen huginn you don't 12:42 huginn AndrewFH: I suck 12:42 AndrewFH @tcohen yup! 12:42 tcohen AndrewFH I'm just pointing implementing that shouldn't forget other cases 12:42 oleonard I would say that's not "resolving" the claim but "cancelling" it. 12:41 AndrewFH well, one of the possible outcomes of a claim is the patron realizes they DO still have the item and decides to keep it a while longer. in that case we would want to resolve the claim, remove the lost status, not return the item 12:41 tcohen oleonard because I think it is natural to provide a path for claim resolution, from the patron's page 12:40 tcohen AndrewFH that's why I claim we need to evolve and add semantics to the resolutions 12:40 oleonard tcohen: Why do you say that? 12:40 AndrewFH that resolution doesn't currently touch anything outside of Claims, though. it's just grabbing some options from an auth value 12:40 tcohen in my opinion 12:39 tcohen it is totally normal to expect to resolve the claim without a checkin 12:37 Joubu well, if BlockReturnOfLostItems is set you cannot check it in :) 12:35 oleonard Both of which should be automatically resolved by a check-in, so why can you "manually" resolve it that way? 12:35 tcohen we need a table for resolutions, and what they trigger 12:35 Joubu "found in library", "returned by patron" are the default values 12:33 oleonard I'm not sure what all the choices are when libraries resolve a claim. They're forgiving the item? They're taking payment for it? Are there other options? 12:32 AndrewFH but I can see the use of something that goes the other way -- automatic lost status change and/or return of item when one resolves the claim 12:31 tcohen right 12:31 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27753 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Automate resolution of return claim when checking in an item 12:31 AndrewFH see also bug 27753 12:31 tcohen hehe 12:30 tcohen well, I'm sure it was requested by someone who wanted it like this 12:30 oleonard the claim returned feature is not based on any kind of real-world logic ;) 12:30 tcohen what is a claim resolution? 12:29 tcohen when a patron claims something was returned, the resolution might be to consider it lost and charge the patron, right? 12:28 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28270 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Wrong tooltip displayed on moredetail for the claim lost status 12:28 Joubu (and found bug 28270..) 12:28 AndrewFH before kyle starting coding Claims we had a fun exercise where 5 different BWS employees tried to agree about exactly what Claims should do, how it should work. It revealed a great lack on consensus, even among folks who came out of more or less the same types of libraries 12:26 AndrewFH and/or, it could make sense for the Claims lost value to be exempted from BlockReturnOfLostItems 12:24 oleonard I want to say "Of course the lost status should go away when the claim is resolved" but you're right... libraries are weird. 12:22 AndrewFH I would love for it to be an option 12:22 AndrewFH I don't see any clear reason not to, that makes sense to me. But then again libraries are weird and I wouldn't be surprised if someone out there really doesn't want the lost status to clear automatically. 12:19 Joubu shouldn't we remove the lost (claim) status when the claim is resolved? 12:18 * AndrewFH looks around for khall 12:18 AndrewFH that seems questionable -- I understand that we don't want folks setting things TO claimed from there, but don't quite understand why we should block them from moving things out of claimed via item edit. at that point, the claim is already made and is being maintained independently of the lost status 12:16 Joubu yes it's coming from there 12:15 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24279 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to master , Claims Returned does not work when set from moredetail.pl or additem.pl 12:15 AndrewFH did the lost status become uneditable when set to Claims due to bug 24279? or was there another patch in there? 12:12 AndrewFH and by "you" I mean "one" or "the user" 12:11 AndrewFH yeah, that stinks, we need to give you some sort of route out of that 12:11 Joubu yep, BlockReturnOfLostItems is on 12:10 AndrewFH hmm, so you have BlockReturnofLostItems on? That's a mean little trap we've caught you in 12:10 Joubu it's true from both screens 12:10 AndrewFH is that true in all screens? my memory is you could still edit it from the edit item screen, just not from the Items tab in the record 12:09 Joubu and checking it in: "Item is lost, cannot be checked in." 12:09 Joubu you cannot manually edit itemlost if the value is equal to ClaimReturnedLostValue 12:09 AndrewFH (although some automation of that linkage is a logical next enhancement for the process) 12:08 AndrewFH either when the item gets checked in or when staff manually edit it. Marking an item found doesn't resolve the claim and resolving the claim doesn't mark it found 12:07 Joubu yes 12:07 AndrewFH Do you mean when should the item go back to itemlost=0? 12:06 Joubu AndrewFH or kidclamp maybe? 12:05 * oleonard doesn't know 12:04 Joubu when is supposed to be removed the LOST av (ClaimReturnedLostValue) from items.itemlost? 12:04 Joubu anyone around familiar with the "return claim" workflow? 12:04 Joubu asking again my question: 11:46 oleonard Hi tcohen 11:42 tcohen hola 11:08 Joubu otherwise maybe SEARCH_RESULT.item(status _ '_count')? 11:08 oleonard Thanks Joubu I will try that. I was hoping I was missing a solution with fewer steps. 11:06 Joubu oleonard: maybe try [% SET status_count_var = status _ '_count' %] then [% SEARCH_RESULT.$status_count_var | html %]? 11:03 magnuse " 11:03 magnuse \o/ 10:56 oleonard \o\ \o| /o/ 10:41 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D11 build #106: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_D11/106/ 10:40 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_U2010 build #74: SUCCESS in 51 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_U2010/74/ 10:28 oleonard Can I make it work? 10:28 oleonard So... this doesn't work: [% SEARCH_RESULT.${status}_count | html %] 10:25 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_U18 build #76: SUCCESS in 59 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_U18/76/ 10:25 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_U18 build #75: SUCCESS in 1 hr 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_U18/75/ 10:22 oleonard Hi 10:14 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_U20 build #80: SUCCESS in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_U20/80/ 10:03 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D9 build #93: SUCCESS in 1 hr 9 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_D9/93/ 09:53 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D10 build #97: SUCCESS in 59 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_D10/97/ 09:48 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_U2010 build #73: SUCCESS in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_U2010/73/ 09:37 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_U16 build #77: SUCCESS in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_U16/77/ 09:34 Joubu caches? 09:26 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_U20 build #79: SUCCESS in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_U20/79/ 09:12 fridolin but maybe my install is not ok 09:12 fridolin mmm caches with and without patch 09:11 fridolin oki 09:09 Joubu only master *should* be affected 09:08 Joubu if it passes, you don't need the patches 09:08 Joubu fridolin: try the test 09:07 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28230 blocker, P5 - low, ---, joonas.kylmala, Pushed to master , Renewing/Checking out record with AE or OE letter in title can make Koha totally unfunctional 09:07 fridolin Joubu: hi, Bug 28230 whould you say it is also for old branches ? even with dependancy on 22824 only in master 08:57 Joubu when is supposed to be removed the LOST av (ClaimReturnedLostValue) from items.itemlost? 08:55 Joubu anyone around familiar with the "return claim" workflow? 06:53 nlegrand Bonjour alex_a 06:53 nlegrand Bonjour ! 06:50 alex_a Bonjour 06:31 cait1 good morning #koha 06:28 reiveune hello 06:15 magnuse \o/