Time Nick Message 20:56 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U16 build #273: FIXED in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U16/273/ 20:56 wahanui Congratulations! 20:56 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 20:47 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U18 build #136: SUCCESS in 1 hr 4 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U18/136/ 20:43 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9 build #267: SUCCESS in 1 hr 0 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9/267/ 20:36 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #268: SUCCESS in 51 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D10/268/ 20:34 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U2010 build #165: UNSTABLE in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U2010/165/ 20:29 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U20 build #301: STILL UNSTABLE in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U20/301/ 20:22 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U16 build #272: UNSTABLE in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U16/272/ 20:12 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D11 build #631: STILL UNSTABLE in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D11/631/ 19:45 wahanui okay, cait. 19:45 cait oleonard is also like the Flash 19:45 wahanui somebody said oleonard was seeing some buggy stuff though 19:45 cait oleonard? 19:45 cait oleonard is like the flash 19:37 tcohen that was fast 19:37 tcohen oleonard++ 19:36 cait heh 19:36 cait course reserves bug? 19:36 tcohen I like it 19:35 cait something to discuss for sure 19:35 cait than a circ action 19:35 cait it's just harder to tie it into statistics and such 19:35 tcohen ah, but that could change soon :-D 19:35 cait it is an article request 19:35 tcohen how so? 19:35 cait article requests don't 'do' much at the moment 19:35 cait yes and no 19:35 tcohen feels more like an article request to me :-D 19:35 cait open to better ideas 19:34 tcohen cait I'm not sure about that workflow 19:26 cait when you check out the articles to them, but they don't ever need to return them... 19:26 cait actually i am thinking about using it with our ill backend 19:26 cait yes 19:26 cait lol 19:26 oleonard Automatic return is when my books walk home by themselves? 19:26 cait i fele like you are trying to start a fight here more than oleonard :) 19:25 tcohen hehe 19:25 tcohen oleonard is resurrecting the discussion about terminology 19:23 cait the feature? 19:22 oleonard But...what is it? 19:21 cait we got a terminology list for reasons :) 19:21 tcohen :-D 19:21 tcohen it sounds better 19:21 tcohen just saying 19:21 tcohen I'm not changing anything 19:21 cait please 19:21 cait not reutrn 19:20 cait checkin 19:20 oleonard What is automatic return?? 19:18 tcohen cait, oleonard: I think the column should be named 'Automatic return' instead, BTW 19:12 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28190 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Library limitation column not toggable on itemtypes table 19:12 tcohen bug 28190 19:12 tcohen that's exactly what I mean :-D 19:11 oleonard That sounds good to me tcohen, but the table settings js always makes my head hurt when I try to understand it 19:11 tcohen and let's make the column names translatable, and match those on the template, hehe 19:11 tcohen and make the library just match that, instead of doing arithmetics 19:10 tcohen we could add data-column-name='parent_code' 19:10 tcohen we should start by adding some real names to columns to avoid issues like this one 19:10 tcohen I find the way it is done (column indexes) too fragile 19:08 cait an dmaybe another for making them translatable? 19:08 cait we could start with filing a bug for making them human readabe 19:08 tcohen hahaha 19:08 tcohen what new translation stuff? 19:08 oleonard Well, it's definitely worth pursuing, but I'd have to get jajm's help for sure 19:07 cait i could never 19:06 cait i guess that for parsing the yaml code some other code is used 19:06 * oleonard Don't hate oleonard just because he's looking at this for the first time 19:06 cait or some directories 19:06 cait not sure 19:06 cait .... and inc? 19:06 cait hm i think it might only work in tt and js? 19:06 oleonard Hm. 19:06 oleonard ...but passes the files to different translation scripts based on the type... 19:05 oleonard Oh, so the new translation stuff in gulpfile.js really just targets specific files or kinds of files for translation... I guess I'd never really looked at it 18:58 cait course 18:58 cait all separate bugs of curse 18:58 cait odd idea? 18:57 cait or the syspref files 18:56 tcohen want it done for tomorrow morning 18:56 cait yeah like the installer files 18:56 tcohen yup 18:56 oleonard yaml translations? 18:55 tcohen ok, will file the bug and CC you both he 18:55 cait if the sequence matters, nothing woudl speak against that, wouldn't it? 18:55 cait and we COULD aim to add htem to yaml translations 18:55 cait i am ok with using non-codes 18:55 cait that was not that kind of comment 18:55 oleonard Oh right :( 18:54 cait next you will suggest to make these files translatable! :D 18:54 oleonard I don't know why it didn't occur to me sooner... There's no reason for us to use labels like "parent_code" in table settings when we could use "Parent code." 18:53 cait mean Koha... sabotaging my course reserves bug 18:51 oleonard All kinds of bugs shaking loose :D 18:51 oleonard If you hide code by default, description will be hidden instead 18:51 tcohen ok 18:51 oleonard It is by position, so the columns settings are wrong 18:50 tcohen me too, but just noticed code and description are swapped 18:50 cait hm always thought it was position to be honest 18:49 tcohen it is not by position, as code and description are swapped on the UI 18:49 tcohen how do things match, oleonard? 18:47 oleonard parent code wasn't added to the yml 18:46 cait hm maybe could be a separat ebug then for backport? 18:45 tcohen he 18:45 tcohen it was not me, for sure 18:45 tcohen yaml has 15, table has 16 18:45 tcohen ha 18:44 cait check the yaml definitions first i'd say 18:44 tcohen what should I check? where? 18:44 tcohen but 18:44 tcohen it seems to be 18:44 cait maybe it's off by one? 18:44 cait have you checked he number of columsn matches? 18:44 tcohen this is interesting 18:43 tcohen but https://snipboard.io/fBZ7hg.jpg 18:43 tcohen the table config has the 'hidden by default' checkbox set 18:42 cait aren't disappearing bugs good? 18:42 tcohen damn 18:42 tcohen it is there 18:39 tcohen he 18:39 tcohen just doing a reset_all 18:39 * tcohen will delete all the cookies and all 18:39 * tcohen does it again, just in case 18:38 cait +1 18:38 oleonard tcohen: You restarted all the things? 18:37 pastebot "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "oleonard cait" (29 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/200 18:37 oleonard Using "is_hidden: 1" in columns_settings.yml isn't working? 18:37 tcohen cait might be it, though 18:36 cait sorry for the red hering 18:36 tcohen I'm adding a column to the itemtypes table 18:36 tcohen no 18:36 oleonard tcohen: Are you using the wrapper? 18:35 cait hm, already in master now 18:35 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28096 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to master , API datatables wrapper does not deal correctly with hidden columns 18:35 cait bug 28096 18:34 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28177 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Add date column and column configuration to uploads 18:34 * oleonard working on Bug 28177 18:34 cait i qa'd something that might be the cause i hink? sorry to interrupt 18:34 tcohen I'm finding it impossible to make a column hidden by default 18:34 cait the cities just got added to the ist i think (not by oleonard tho) 18:33 cait :) 18:33 oleonard Yes 18:33 tcohen oleonard have you recently added columns settings 18:09 cait oleonard++ 18:03 cait [off] taiwanese! 18:02 oleonard cait++ 17:55 cait [off] thx! going to add lemonjar and the chinese company 17:54 oleonard [off] Looks good as far as I can tell 17:52 cait [off] https://www.lemonjar.com.my/index.php/about-koha-ils/ - do you think we should add them now? 17:52 cait [off] you are just he right person 17:52 cait oh :) 17:51 * oleonard me 17:51 cait someone still around? 17:51 cait hello 17:42 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master build #1622: SUCCESS in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/1622/ 17:34 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U2010 build #157: FIXED in 57 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U2010/157/ 17:34 wahanui Congratulations! 17:34 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 17:32 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1626: FIXED in 56 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1626/ 17:32 wahanui Congratulations! 17:32 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 17:31 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10_CPAN build #297: FIXED in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10_CPAN/297/ 17:31 wahanui Congratulations! 17:31 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 17:28 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #569: FIXED in 58 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/569/ 17:28 wahanui Congratulations! 17:28 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 17:27 davewood and if i use the web interface to import marcxml the pulldown menu "Record matching rule" only offers one option: 'do not look for matching records' 17:24 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10_CPAN build #296: STILL FAILING in 2 hr 9 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10_CPAN/296/ 17:24 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10_CPAN build #295: FAILURE in 3 hr 50 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10_CPAN/295/ 17:00 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #551: FIXED in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/551/ 17:00 wahanui Congratulations! 17:00 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 16:36 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11 build #269: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11/269/ 16:35 davewood if i do `-update -isbn` the script complains: "WARNING: Updating record failed at /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl live 470 <GEN24> ... use of uninitialized value $originalid in concatenation ..." 16:33 davewood I tried with `-update -isbn` and also with `-update` but the script complains about a missing -match param and I dont know which field to pick. 16:32 davewood `bulkmarcimport.pl -m MARCXML -file foo.xml -d` 16:32 maya-das hi 16:31 davewood I imported some records using bulkmarcimport.pl ... now I have updated the import file and want to update the existing records but I get lots of these messages:"Item not added (bib 54439, item tag #1, barcode 74002): duplicate barcode 74002" 16:31 oleonard ^^ a real ancient relic 16:31 oleonard my $theme = $input->param('theme'); # only used if allowthemeoverride is set 15:52 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28188 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Accessibility: OPAC - the contrast ratio for text is insufficient [OMNIBUS] 15:52 oleonard Bug 28188 15:52 oleonard henryb++ 15:45 reiveune bye 15:40 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master build #1621: FIXED in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/1621/ 15:40 wahanui Congratulations! 15:40 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 15:33 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11 build #268: STILL UNSTABLE in 57 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11/268/ 15:31 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U2010 build #156: UNSTABLE in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U2010/156/ 15:28 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23271: Fix random failure from Categories.t <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c5b715a8538cc71bb74eade8464821845f40dc4a> 15:14 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1625: STILL UNSTABLE in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1625/ 15:00 ashimema I've done that and re-triggered the build 14:59 ashimema aha.. I've found a gitlab setting.. I can up from a 1h timeout up to 3hr 14:59 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23271: Fix Template/Plugin/Branches.t <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dd3b509d551e9d2f1c1154cb3cc9ff5344213905> 14:47 * thd goes to rest his post jab headache for a chance of productivity again in a few hours. 14:45 * tuxayo will finally use the calendar feature of phones. 14:44 cait Joubu++ 14:44 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #550: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 12 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/550/ 14:43 tuxayo lol 14:43 tuxayo > #endmeeting 14:43 tuxayo Caught up!! 14:41 kidclamp Joubu++ 14:41 thd +1 14:41 huginn Log: https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/development_irc_meeting_21_april_2021.2021-04-21-14.00.log.html 14:41 huginn Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/development_irc_meeting_21_april_2021.2021-04-21-14.00.txt 14:41 huginn Minutes: https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/development_irc_meeting_21_april_2021.2021-04-21-14.00.html 14:41 huginn Meeting ended Wed Apr 21 14:41:31 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 14:41 Joubu #endmeeting 14:41 Joubu 5sec 14:41 Joubu no objections? 14:41 Joubu #info Next meeting: 5 May 2021 14 UTC 14:40 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1624: UNSTABLE in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1624/ 14:40 Joubu #topic Set time of next meeting 14:40 Joubu #action kidclamp Ask the ML for additional info about how to implement opt-out for notices. One idea would be to have "My message" at the OPAC 14:39 kidclamp I think we can move on, and we will email the list if we have more questions 14:38 kidclamp talljoy: any more questions you have? 14:37 cait or not a must have evrywhere 14:37 cait kidclamp: i think having privacy features like that is never wrong, even if it's not a must have maybe 14:36 kidclamp can do, we are working on deciding waht we need and how we should implement, so just collecting info for now 14:36 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master build #1620: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 2 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/1620/ 14:36 * tuxayo scrolls back 14:35 tuxayo #info tuxayo/Victor Grousset, France 14:35 Joubu kidclamp: ask the list? :) 14:35 ashimema I do like that idea too 14:35 Joubu that's a nice idea, kidclamp. Even we could enqueue things even if a patron does not have the mtt (like no email), and it would be visible in their OPAC account 14:35 cait but i'd still show them all if we are on that already 14:34 ashimema and trying to follow through and add more of the notices to that set 14:34 cait and then we culd have a message transport type "opac" to 14:34 kidclamp largely though, it sounds like no one is finding they need additional option to meet GDPR requirements or others? 14:34 ashimema for unsubscribe I really wonder about just linking to the patron messaging preferences 14:34 cait that goes the same direction 14:34 cait i think there is an open bug to have the message view i staff in opac too alreay 14:34 kidclamp Kyle and I discussed this morning the possibility of adding 'my messages' to patron opac view, and adding a transport of way for patrons to get notices in the opac, but not necessarily have them 'sent' 14:33 cait if it's a marker you put in the templates, it's would be easy to control when it shows 14:33 kidclamp and I think ooffering an unsubscribe on the overdues would be an eventual goal for us 14:33 cait yeah we don't use that at all at the moment 14:32 kidclamp the patron_emailer script doesn't have an opt-out currently 14:32 cait via messaging preferences you can turn off a lot of the emails... are there some more problematic than others? 14:32 cait if that makes sense? we haven' t had requests so far as you can opt them out of most messages and we are not using all of them anyway 14:31 cait if we get questions about other types of email we help get a list, but we tell them to check with their appointed data privacy person 14:30 cait but stuff related to their circulation directly (renewal, overdue) should be ok i think 14:30 cait you can't just emai them things 14:30 cait if it's not related to their actions witht he library 14:30 cait I know that there is discussion about informational emails 14:29 kidclamp in theory overdues are excluded for us too, but in practice they still count against us 14:29 kidclamp how have libraries implemented it? 14:29 cait not sure if that applies to overdues 14:29 Joubu (I...think) 14:29 Joubu you have to include an unsubscribe link 14:28 ashimema we've never had such a problem 14:28 Joubu it's mandatory 14:28 ashimema yup.. 14:28 kidclamp really we are interested in whether there are any GDPR related issues around this, or if anyone else int he community faces this problem? 14:28 Joubu yes, definitely 14:28 cait sounds like a good idea in general 14:28 kidclamp or alternately, a way to show that patrons have agreed to receive transactional message 14:27 kidclamp one of the features that is needed is an 'Unsubscribe' link in the messages 14:27 cait interesting 14:27 kidclamp Patrons will mark messages as SPAM, this eventually can put our servers on block lists 14:27 kidclamp This is something we are working on as we face some issues in sending out emails 14:26 cait wiki updates done 14:26 Joubu kidclamp: ? 14:26 Joubu #topic Email unsubscribe - CAN-SPAM / GDPR - how to implement opt-out for Koha 14:26 Joubu #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) 14:26 ashimema thanks 14:26 Joubu #action ashimema Write a coding guideline to clarify our message types: 'alert' vs 'error' (context of bug 27695) 14:26 ashimema sorry.. just haven't had a moment 14:26 ashimema I need to postpone that one once again 14:25 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27695 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to master , Fix style of messages on Elasticsearch configuration page 14:25 Joubu #topic ashimema Write a coding guideline to clarify our message types: 'alert' vs 'error' (context of bug 27695) 14:25 Joubu #info New wiki page to explain the different debian packages has been written - https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Package_types 14:25 Joubu thanks mtj for that one! 14:25 Joubu done - https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Package_types 14:25 Joubu #topic mtj write something about the new packages for the 21.05 release notes 14:24 Joubu thanks 14:24 cait i am on it 14:24 cait and add elections there? 14:24 Joubu 12 May 2021, 14:00 UTC 14:24 Joubu https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_12_May_2021 14:24 wahanui somebody said next general meeting was 13 November, so does 14 November 13:00 ITC work okay? 14:24 Joubu yes, next general meeting 14:24 cait that's been set already, right? 14:23 cait maybe weshoudl put election date on the page 14:23 cait hi mtj - difficult time for you! 14:23 Joubu (lot of people missing there!) 14:23 Joubu done, see https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_21.11 14:23 Joubu #topic Joubu create the "roles for 21.11" wiki page and send an email to the list 14:22 mtj hi people, sorry i'm late :) 14:22 Joubu #topic Actions from last meeting 14:22 mtj #info Mason James, NZ 14:22 Joubu I will rebased the news stuff right after the meeting! 14:22 cait same 14:22 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14957 new feature, P5 - low, ---, glasklas, Failed QA , Write protecting MARC fields based on source of import 14:22 cait yeah i tried, but didn't get far sorry 14:22 Joubu and some QA issues need to be fixed on bug 14957 14:21 ashimema aha :) 14:21 ashimema Katrin was on that.. but it's failing to apply 14:21 Joubu ha, does not apply! I missed that one :D 14:21 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22544 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Patch doesn't apply , Move C4:NewsChannels to Koha namespace 14:21 Joubu I am still hoping a QA stamp on bug 22544 14:21 Joubu things are stuck for most of the topics 14:20 Joubu #topic Status of roadmap projects 14:20 ashimema looking at the builds it's been dead for a month 14:20 Joubu ok, will see after the meeting then :) 14:20 ashimema so haven't done anything yet ;) 14:20 ashimema ;) 14:20 ashimema I literally got told about it 20 mins before this meeting 14:20 Joubu ashimema: erk, did you raise an alert flag? Can we extend the timeout? 14:19 Joubu string*s* 14:19 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 14:19 Joubu @later tell fridolin looks like the string for 20.11 are not up-to-date on pootle, something missing in your workflow for April? 14:18 ashimema I've not investigated deeply yet 14:18 ashimema it was the merges of translations that hit it.. those builds are taking longer than the 1h timeout on gitlab build servers I think 14:18 ashimema I don't think so 14:18 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28006 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to stable , Restore "Additional fields" link on serials navigation menu 14:18 Joubu ashimema: because of disk space issues again? 14:18 cait bug 28006 14:17 cait but i am waiting for some navigation links to show up and they haven't yet 14:17 Joubu ok, we will catch Frido when he will be around then 14:17 cait after 15th new strings were pushed and 20.11 string frezeed announced 14:17 ashimema also.. manual builds for 20.11 are broken again 14:17 cait yes 14:17 cait but none after 14:16 cait it looks like the scheduled string update around 15th happened 14:16 Joubu Were you saying pootle is not up-to-date? 14:16 cait i am nto sure how this works at the moment 14:16 cait i am not sure, i was hoping to catch fridolin today, but haven't spotted him yet 14:16 Joubu do we need to ping Bernardo? 14:16 cait they had been already updated before, but not since fridolin announced and there were some strings pushed 14:15 cait i noticed the strings haven't been updated for 20.11 14:15 Joubu #info April releases are expected for Monday 26th 14:15 Joubu April releases are expected for Monday 26th 14:15 cait trying to keep us on our toes 14:14 Joubu (yes I did swap the 2 topics!) 14:14 Joubu #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers 14:14 cait please look at the bad and the old as pointed out in my mails :) (and beyond those of course) 14:14 Joubu something else for/from QA? 14:14 cait nothing more to add for QA i think 14:14 maya-das oleonard >> ok 14:13 oleonard :) 14:13 cait oleonard: jinx? :) 14:13 cait hi maya-das - we are just in ameeting, you are welcome to stay, but questions might be a bit hard to answer right now 14:13 tcohen cait: will take a look today 14:12 oleonard Hi maya-das we are in the middle of a developers meeting at the moment, stick around until after if you have a question 14:12 maya-das hi 14:12 cait sitting sorry 14:12 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14237 enhancement, P2, ---, aleisha, Signed Off , Allow bibs to be added to course without items 14:12 cait personally... I'd be really really happy to see bug 14237 movign 14:12 ashimema istting? 14:12 cait but we also have some long istting stuff 14:12 Joubu that's the way oleonard, thanks :) 14:12 cait yep 14:11 ashimema nice one oleonard 14:11 * oleonard has been trying to focus on non-enh signoffs 14:11 ashimema little dissapointing I'm still number 3 in the list.. even with that being the case 14:11 cait we need more hands on deck 14:11 kidclamp trying to do what I can when I can 14:11 cait same here 14:11 ashimema I've struggled to focus on QA much this month.. only really had a couple of days 14:11 Joubu but still too many, and we have 2 criticals + 2 majors 14:10 Joubu NQA queue is back under 100 14:10 thd Writing things tends to reduce brain consumption. 14:09 Joubu #topic Updates from the QA team 14:09 Joubu will be fun to merge them 14:09 Joubu yes, I have mine already as well ;) 14:09 ashimema haha.. I'll just note mine locally for now then .. and try to get them out of my brain 14:08 Joubu ~2 weeks before the release. But we should focus on 21.05 first :) 14:08 * ashimema likes to have a place to put things early.. that way he can put them there then they're out of his brain so he can concentrate on the more immediate tasks 14:07 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #568: UNSTABLE in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/568/ 14:07 Joubu ashimema: we could start thinking about it indeed, like in 2 weeks? 14:07 ashimema is there a new roadmap doc for planning the next cycle yet? 14:07 Joubu 5 weeks! 14:07 cait I understood it like that 14:07 Joubu heh yes, only 1 month left! 14:06 henryb To clarify, I wasn't suggesting the timetable should change I'm just surprised how quickly time passes :) 14:06 Joubu #info Watchout the missing release notes! https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&list_id=369387&namedcmd=Needs%20release%20notes&remaction=run&sharer_id=378 14:05 Joubu #info keep an eye on the 21.05 candidate list https://frama.link/koha_bz_rel_21_05_candidate 14:05 khall #info Kyle M Hall, ByWater Solutions 14:05 Joubu https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&list_id=369387&namedcmd=Needs%20release%20notes&remaction=run&sharer_id=378 14:05 Joubu There is a shared search 14:05 ashimema it's the usual flow 14:05 Joubu You should also watch the bug reports with missing release notes 14:05 ashimema indeed 14:05 Joubu cannot be later than on 28th :) 14:05 ashimema +1 14:04 cait henryb foudn the better words :) 14:04 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 14:04 henryb It sounds great but everything is happening so fast! 14:04 cait does that count? 14:04 cait souns good but scares me the same time 14:04 thd +1 14:04 Joubu I will start using the rel_21_05_candidate bz keyword more and more, keep an eye on it - https://frama.link/koha_bz_rel_21_05_candidate 14:04 oleonard +1 14:04 tcohen Great, releasing a friday means beer party 14:03 Joubu how does it sound? 14:03 tcohen Joubu++ 14:03 Joubu * May 28th - Final release 14:03 Joubu * May 19th - Only bug fixes considered as major, critical or blocker will be pushed 14:03 Joubu * May 12th - String freeze, draft of release notes published 14:03 Joubu * May 4-7 - "Hard" feature freeze, nothing considered as an improvement will be pushed if not marked as Passed QA 14:03 Joubu * May 1st - "Soft" feature freeze, nothing big or with high risk of side-effects will be included into the final release if not marked as Passed QA 14:03 Joubu Release dates have been announced on the general mailing list earlier today: 14:03 Joubu #topic Update from the Release Manager (21.05) 14:02 ashimema #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS-Europe 14:02 Joubu Anyone have something? 14:02 Joubu #topic Announcements 14:02 Joubu hi all :) 14:01 Joubu #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_21_April_2021 14:01 oleonard #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA 14:01 talljoy #info Joy Nelson, ByWater Solutions 14:01 henryb #info Henry Bolshaw, House of Lords Library, UK 14:01 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City 14:00 kidclamp #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions 14:00 tcohen #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions 14:00 Joubu sorry for interupting you! :) 14:00 Joubu #info Jonathan Druart 14:00 Joubu #topic Introductions 14:00 talljoy now 14:00 talljoy right no 14:00 talljoy no snow in the desert!! 14:00 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_21_april_2021' 14:00 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:00 huginn Meeting started Wed Apr 21 14:00:20 2021 UTC. The chair is Joubu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:00 Joubu #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 21 April 2021 14:00 oleonard talljoy: Can I at least assume it's not snowing where you are? 14:00 wahanui i think rmaints is fridolin, AndrewFH and tuxayo 14:00 Joubu rmaints? 14:00 wahanui qa_team is, like, cait, dcook, amoyano, ashimema, marcelr, kohaputti, jajm, tcohen, josef_moravec, kidclamp, khall and tuxayo 14:00 Joubu qa_team? 13:59 thd It would be good if my second jab headache would go away in three minutes. 13:59 talljoy ha no! 13:59 oleonard talljoy: Are you still on a tropical island?? 13:58 oleonard Hi talljoy 13:58 talljoy good morning! 13:57 oleonard dev meeting in 3min 13:47 magnuse caroline_catlady, oleonard-away thanks! 13:31 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23243: Restore filtering out historic expired subscriptions <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eeca29afed1b9b9dfc04d3c7ecdc120ff4072fe8> 13:31 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23271: Use Koha::Object::Limit::Library for Koha::Patron::Categories <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5c0c62316854287acb611a1966dbf762f9524419> 13:31 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23271: Replace search_limited with search_with_library_limits <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f6e0b04f48e8f0a02dbb8d48152646257d9accba> 13:31 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23243: Adjust previous patch <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9ddba2b7371fc139f21439aafa691ca9c42b0a7c> 13:31 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23243: (follow-up) Update wording as requested <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=08c575f8d6e3fafae8ba455404429d7446d768c8> 13:31 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21883: Pass the item to the template <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=00dfcfcbe8c2f974dd3fe0939fcf8a8087c18dbd> 13:31 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27465: Add column visibility to admin/cities.pl <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cef6bbd660e45f49aee165e72f2448d92aeac32b> 13:31 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27644: Add button to SQL report editor for inserting runtime parameters <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c9a15b73f01796e1f6f71e5eca8efbee94958af5> 13:31 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21883: Show authorized value description for withdrawn in check-in <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=596e59f2a91ac8f2756a7b83083f2bac606cd3bb> 13:31 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28086: OpacMaintenance page should use ReplytoDefault if set <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a01f7fac96a43b3f1ab3bcff8901ef1be088181e> 13:31 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23583: Handle OpacHiddenItems with yaml_preference <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=58c275e04b11b2f0f54b014f31e4054cd92f5a1f> 13:31 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27644: (follow-up) Wrap strings in translation function <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=983feccf648cd3c77d05795cfc0eb2c098977835> 13:31 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28119: Use full description in layout type selection <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1bb9b8b5514f512dfba74ca1ace97ec7fbcb4884> 13:31 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28127: add transaction timestamp to register details tables <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=572c0981c3f678fbb32476b8060ca79f0e642016> 13:31 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23271: (QA follow-up) Minor POD fix <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=10b82a72fa6ef39a43c4dd9de04eb01f7196ab62> 13:31 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23271: Remove 'selecteds' from Branches <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bfdb4961d9e57a22a3e7dc6cdc10e86c5ff32e9e> 13:31 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 14300: Add %P to SIP LogPattern <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e07c9e9f0646352b25d36602e7b6dbb3e839c9c2> 13:31 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27644: (QA follow-up) Remove size=1 from template <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c1c28724408eb08b22ab9d8720d6acb37e174288> 13:31 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23271: Prevent crash if called without parameters <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6a941e5b86f36256327d3a890c5037145cb935f7> 13:31 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27644: Compiled CSS <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=feaeff330cfa9d49c99a0d70da0df87f5316652b> 13:31 Joubu dev meeting in 30min 12:52 ashimema Back 12:51 * oleonard biab 12:51 caroline_catlady it must be because it smells more ;) 12:50 oleonard caroline_catlady: I don't know why the garbage is hot, it's just the way the idiom is! :D 12:50 caroline_catlady not room temperature garbage or even warm garbage, but hot! 12:49 oleonard We used an event calendar system from Demco for a while and it was hot garbage. 12:46 caroline_catlady We have a "partnership" with Amilia and integrated Koha with their software for one library https://www.amilia.com/ 12:45 oleonard LibraryCalendar from LibraryMarket 12:44 caroline_catlady oleonard: i'm curious which one you use? 12:44 oleonard magnuse: We pay annually for a standalone system for that, so if you want to write one for Koha feel free :D 12:42 caroline_catlady magnuse: maybe the clubs function? 12:40 magnuse there aren't any plugins for organizing "events" in koha, right? like registering participants for a book talk or a games evening? 12:38 * ashimema needs to quickly drive home.. will be about 10 mins offline 12:37 ashimema So you can quickly get to see your 'current' register details page if you have one for your session but can also see other tills in the library if you need to 12:37 ashimema Well..that's why there's library details and register details 12:36 ashimema I can't remember.. when using point of sale to seek stuff.. if you have defaults or have selected a till for you it session ... Doesn't it revert the till selection with each transaction 12:36 oleonard It also raises the question: Should I be able to see other register details without switching my "logged in register" 12:35 ashimema Hmm.. fair question 12:33 oleonard Right now it shows me the default 12:33 oleonard If I change my cash register from the one I'm logged in with by default, shouldn't the "Register details" link take me to details for that cash register? 12:32 ashimema Fire away 12:32 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28187 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , rowGroup headings are getting their styles overriden 12:32 oleonard Hi ashimema I was looking at Bug 28187, but before I get to that I have a question about cash registers... 12:31 wahanui hi oleopard 12:31 ashimema Hi oleonard 11:43 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10_CPAN build #294: SUCCESS in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10_CPAN/294/ 11:23 oleonard ashimema still around? 10:47 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1623: FIXED in 53 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1623/ 10:47 wahanui Congratulations! 10:47 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 10:44 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11 build #267: STILL UNSTABLE in 53 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11/267/ 10:30 oleonard Hi all 10:13 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11 build #266: STILL UNSTABLE in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11/266/ 10:04 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #549: SUCCESS in 1 hr 12 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/549/ 10:01 cait ashimema: maybe i can help? 09:54 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master build #1619: SUCCESS in 59 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/1619/ 09:51 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U2010 build #155: FIXED in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U2010/155/ 09:51 wahanui Congratulations! 09:51 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 09:39 magnuse ashimema: linked record options? 09:26 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #567: SUCCESS in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/567/ 08:53 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20854: Allow correct redirect on logout for Cas servers 3.0 and superior. <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=91307707ed2ff874ec5e2f25658a286019204e54> 08:53 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26940: don't reset debarredcomment on patron update <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3b9f1e1560d4cf565f48a4cd09d048b2ee38689e> 08:53 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26940: Put in sync borrowers.debarredcomment with comments from borrower_debarment <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c309ee36dde958ff8049c4ed6e381c2d5858dc68> 08:53 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26940: Take empty strings into account <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=789ddd59c92183af350eba427ad545e3dce82422> 08:53 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27232: Add missing space between : and </label> in member-alt-contact-style.inc <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=61d8ec5075ba95c1fd84be6bfefd547749eaae1d> 08:53 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27282: Add window.onafterprint function <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fae72d031a080f840b39d892c95f3a9ee6f659ab> 08:53 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27282: fix all occurrences <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=55b050b607869169aae2c52d1f89fd79f62af400> 08:53 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27830: OPAC library list does not use AddressFormat <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e1e309c62802100b2db1b2cdf2109c275be8da06> 08:53 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27861: Warning in C4/XSLT.pm - use of uninitialized value in numeric eq (==) <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bda9b9e122df436d48e6416d140a7bbb45c8546c> 08:53 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26533: Fix 'is exactly' search for authorities <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a58cf90a3146f385671e6d82ae65de4f36d33316> 08:53 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20854: Add more CAS tests <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c71dda04c605b68b439e1a0ea3132447eeb28b45> 08:53 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20854: (QA follow-up) Improve readability <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7c3c066714ce568e507348f1e3a9a6b7db0c4815> 08:53 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28096: Fix table settings for API datatables wrapper <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1dcab586427fb2aa1b1c676a4dc2046c202ee671> 08:53 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28028: Remove misc/migration_tools/fix_onloan.pl <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c285de980266a23919fe64d26665ccd53355b820> 08:53 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27830: (follow-up) Merge DE and FR address formats <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=953088f8167c545318fe63d41912eda657cde705> 08:52 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28162: fix doubled scalar sigil <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=04631818e3c0a56859cb0f029b53111303b60f11> 08:52 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20854: (QA follow-up) Rephrase of the new casServerVersion pref description <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6aa6f115bd2330342675781400199a2f3152abf1> 08:52 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26940: DBRev 20.12.00.033 <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=adf73341e6883a80323695a4e85a2fd37bf7f53e> 08:52 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20854: DBRev 20.12.00.034 <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=da29bf48db6a5e5c383174962c7b81e6ea5bd5d4> 08:52 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27830: Compiled CSS <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=99c10bf4484635e9befdc9c09a56c0f7278c7976> 08:14 * ashimema is trying to get to grips with all the linked record options we now have. 08:13 ashimema okies, will chat later then 08:13 jajm ashimema, i'm here but not really available atm 08:10 ashimema jajm around? 08:09 ashimema me neither really 07:50 magnuse i am not up to scratch on it 07:45 ashimema I've still not really seen any evidence of anything supporting it.. other than the odd little vanity project to demo it being a fun idea 07:45 ashimema is bibframe a thing now magnuse? 07:40 ashimema morning 07:33 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14239 new feature, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Bibframe support in Koha 07:33 magnuse got an opinion about BIBFRAME? please add it to bug 14239 :-) 06:48 alex_a Bonjour 06:38 wahanui salut, reiveune 06:38 reiveune hello 06:30 magnuse \o/ 00:38 * dcook waves