Time Nick Message 01:44 Hunaid Hello. I am looking for a library management software for my school. i cam across koha. But i understand it runs on Linux. Does it work on windows? 01:49 tuxayo Hunaid: hi :) It worked on Windows in the past, now I'm not sure, but you will have a much harder time running it on Windows than on Linux. 01:53 Hunaid Thank you. Can you recommend something for Windows 03:28 shaffendi hi heello 03:28 shaffendi i need help on serial data.. 04:24 tuxayo hi :) shaffendi write your question, and maybe someone could help 04:24 tuxayo You may ask again a few hours later or use the mailing list that suits best https://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/ 07:20 ashimema What do you mean by 'runs on windows' Hunald.. I wouldn't suggest running it on a desktop machine.. it is designed to sit on a server.. 07:21 ashimema I imagine Koha would run under linux subsystem for windows.. but I've personally not tried 07:21 ashimema Hunaid ^ 07:40 reiveune hello 07:46 alex_a Bonjour 08:03 magnuse \o/ 10:13 * cait1 waves 10:19 ashimema Hi cait1 10:26 cait1 just got out of morning meetings 10:26 cait1 how is everyon? 10:28 ashimema not bad, not bad 10:28 ashimema just looking through the accessibility improvement bugs 10:29 ashimema little bit scary.. think they're at the stage and having taken it all apart and now working out how to put it back together again 10:29 ashimema the first patch I just QA'd is scary 10:30 ashimema wow.. back up to 80 majors.. that seems a little high 10:37 cait1 yeah we have been better 10:41 oleonard Hi all 10:41 oleonard We seem to be having a surge of people asking to run Koha on Windows. I wonder if there was a catalyst. 10:43 cait1 oh, only saw one of them on mailng list, but miht have deleted others 10:44 ashimema it's weird 10:44 ashimema I noted at least a couple 10:49 tcohen Good morning 10:49 tcohen hi cait 11:47 cait1 maybe jus one of these things that happen in waves? 11:47 cait1 hi tcohen! 11:48 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 11:48 wahanui Congratulations! 11:48 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #265: FIXED in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D10/265/ 11:49 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D11 build #92: UNSTABLE in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_D11/92/ 11:56 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 11:56 wahanui Congratulations! 11:56 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U2010 build #162: FIXED in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U2010/162/ 12:02 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 12:02 wahanui Congratulations! 12:02 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D9 build #309: FIXED in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D9/309/ 12:03 oleonard ashimema: I'm adding some follow-ups to my title-string patches because I've found some missed ones 12:03 ashimema I saw 12:03 oleonard I'm setting them back to signed off so you can have another look, if you don't mind 12:04 ashimema will do 12:04 ashimema there's so many cases it's really easy to miss them 12:04 ashimema thanks for taking that set on 12:08 * oleonard likes projects 12:10 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 12:10 wahanui Congratulations! 12:10 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D10 build #77: FIXED in 56 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_D10/77/ 12:13 * cait1 likes oleonard 12:15 oleonard :) 12:20 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D10_ES5 build #13: SUCCESS in 1 hr 3 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D10_ES5/13/ 12:36 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master build #1603: SUCCESS in 57 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master/1603/ 12:53 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D11 build #628: UNSTABLE in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D11/628/ 13:01 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D11 build #93: STILL UNSTABLE in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_D11/93/ 13:14 magnuse oleonard++ 13:30 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11 build #248: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 4 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11/248/ 13:32 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 13:32 wahanui Congratulations! 13:32 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D11 build #629: FIXED in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D11/629/ 13:34 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 13:34 wahanui Congratulations! 13:34 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D11 build #94: FIXED in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_D11/94/ 13:43 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 13:43 wahanui Congratulations! 13:43 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11 build #249: FIXED in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11/249/ 14:36 * magnuse tried submitting a receipe for the cookbook :-O 14:36 ashimema :) 14:36 caroline yay magnuse++ 14:38 * magnuse wanders off to fry some mackerels 14:43 * ashimema races ahead in the QA leaderboard 14:47 ashimema 71 enhancements in the QA queue still though! 14:47 ashimema yowsers 14:47 ashimema and on that note.. I need to go on teh school run 14:47 ashimema see ya 14:53 * oleonard-away is hungry for fried mackerels now 15:04 cait2 hm no 15:04 cait2 Pizza 15:14 oleonard Tomorrow is pizza day. Today is fried mackerel day. 15:21 cait2 but... 15:21 caroline by that logic, it's pizza day in NZ 15:21 caroline Or is pizza day always tomorrow? 15:25 oleonard no! 15:40 eythian Thursday is pizza day in NZ IIRC 15:44 cm hi 15:45 cm how reliable is link_bibs_to_authorities.pl? 15:45 cm it found the correct number of occurrences of my authorities but didn't link anything 15:46 cm or do i maybe have to rebuild the zebraindex to see the links? 15:47 caroline cm I think you have to rebuild the indexes yes 15:47 caroline also, check the linker system preferences 15:47 cm where do i find these preferences? 15:50 caroline Administration > System preferences > Authorities 15:50 cm ok, i've rebuild the index but still see nothing 15:50 cm i'll relink 15:50 caroline Or Administration > System preferences and search for Linker 15:50 cm thx 15:52 cm what setting should i be looking for? 15:52 cm as far as i can see, everything is set to default 15:53 caroline just check to make sure it's to your liking 15:53 cm ok 15:53 cm so i did the linking again: still nothing :-( 15:54 caroline did you run it with -v to see what it does? 15:54 cm yes 15:54 cm first, it processed all of my records 15:55 cm Number of bibs checked: 46386 15:55 cm Number of bibs modified: 0 15:56 cm didnt do any linking, even though it found the correct number of occurrences, like: Bericht: 447 occurrences 15:57 cm or maybe i misunderstand what the linker is supposed to do? 15:57 cm I'm talking about the "used in x records" number 15:57 cm which is still 0 15:58 caroline I use it all the time and it usually works 15:58 caroline dis you modify your MARC frameworks? 15:58 caroline maybe if $9 is not in the framework, it can't link 15:58 cm it is in the framework 15:59 cm i' 15:59 cm i'll double-check 15:59 caroline I'm out of ideas... :/ 16:00 cm ok, i have 2 frameworks 16:00 cm default and another one 16:00 cm $9 is set for the other one 16:00 cm maybe the linker is using the wrong framework? 16:01 caroline depends on your bib records 16:02 cm hm 16:02 cm what could i do to verify it is using the desired framework? 16:07 caroline cm check one of your 447 Bericht records 16:07 caroline which framework does it use? 16:07 cm ok one sec.. 16:08 cm how can i see the framework? 16:08 cm is it in the marc record? 16:09 caroline in the staff interface, if you click in the MARC view, it shoudl show just above the marc 16:09 caroline there should be a drop down menu with your frameworks... the one that is selected is the one your record uses 16:09 cm ok it is using the correct framework 16:10 caroline damn... I was hoping that would be the problem hehe! 16:10 cm so maybe a colleague altered the framework recently.. anything i have to do after that maybe? 16:10 cm as i said i rebuild the zebtra-index 16:11 caroline can you check if you edit the record and click on the tag for Bericht, is there a $9? 16:11 caroline is the subfield there and is it filled? 16:12 caroline normally the $9 has the authority record number in it 16:14 cm hm 16:14 cm so i see $9 in my framework 16:15 cm but not in the marc of the specific record 16:15 caroline even if you click on the title of the tag? 16:15 caroline (to "open" the tag) 16:18 cm ok 16:18 cm i see $9 but it is not set 16:18 cm that should happen by the linking i guess? 16:18 caroline yes 16:18 cm so the $9 is there 16:18 cm at least :) 16:19 caroline is the text in your bib record and in your auth record the same? 16:19 caroline Sometimes I've seen it won't recognize if there are spaces or different punctuation 16:19 cm you mean the keyword? 16:19 caroline yes 16:19 cm yes 16:19 cm it's exactly the same 16:19 caroline ok that's good 16:20 reiveune bye 16:21 caroline when you reindex, do you index your authorities? 16:21 caroline hm... dumb questions 16:21 cm yes, i especially added -a to zebrA 16:21 caroline of course otherwise you wouldn't be able to find them 16:22 caroline did you also add -b? 16:22 caroline wouldn't change anything if $9 is empty 16:22 caroline sorry, thinking out loud 16:22 cm sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -v -f library 16:22 cm thats what i did 16:23 cm and then again with flag -a 16:23 cm maybe the linker is trying the link the wrong tag? 16:23 cm e.g. one record has its keyword in tag 650 16:24 cm another one in 651 16:24 cm another one in 100 16:25 caroline those are all standard... 16:26 cm looking at the subfield settings for $9 now 16:26 cm there are several options like important, mandatory and so on 16:26 caroline shouldn't change anything 16:26 cm hm 16:26 cm damn 16:26 caroline yeah... 16:28 cm so let's assume that the framework was changed 16:28 cm what might be needed to make the changes visible to the linker? 16:28 cm i already did a rebuild 16:28 cm a restart of the database maybe? 16:30 cm now im looking at the "Koha to MARC mapping" options 16:30 cm there are several mappings for subfields a or b but none for $9 16:30 cm maybe that's missing? 16:30 caroline let me check mine, but I don't think it's supposed to be linked 16:31 caroline no only 952$9 is linked in mine 16:32 cm hm 16:32 cm looking at "authority types" 16:32 cm i checked all types and again see several subfields 16:33 cm but $9 is missing 16:33 cm should it be added there as well? 16:33 caroline in my default MARC framework, for 100$9 I have Managed in tab 1, Visibility OPAC, Intranet, Collapsed 16:34 caroline and for 100$a I have Managed in tab 1, Visibility OPAC, Intranet, Edito, Koha link biblio.author, thesaurus PERSO_NAME 16:34 cm checking mine 16:36 cm look similar 16:37 cm $9 is managed in tab 0 but i guess that doesnt matter 16:37 caroline is $a also managed in tab 0? 16:37 cm yes 16:37 caroline (as long as they're in the same tab, it's ok) 16:38 caroline To circle back to your authority types questions, it's normal that there is no $9 in there 16:38 cm ok 16:39 caroline $9 is used to store the auth number in the bib record, so it's only necessary in the bib record 16:42 cm hm 16:42 cm sorry for bothering you sou much caroline .. 16:43 cm i really appreciate your patience :-) 16:43 caroline sorry I can't help you more 16:43 cm hm 16:43 cm yeah i guess ill just leave it at that 16:43 cm thx! 16:43 caroline I'm out of ideas, but I can answer questions if you have other ones 16:44 cm so if i link records to authorities manually, it works 16:44 cm does that give you any hint? 16:44 caroline no... 16:45 cm :-) 16:52 cm thx again caroline! 16:52 cm bye 17:21 circ-user-exXpE Hi everyone 17:22 circ-user-exXpE First time using the channel. I hope I dont do anything wrong 17:23 circ-user-exXpE In my library we are trying to setup the search in chinese characters but all attempts around Zebra are getting nowhere 17:23 circ-user-exXpE does anyone have a very clear idea about what we should do? 17:24 circ-user-exXpE is there any good instruction out there on how to do this? 17:53 ashimema sorry circ-user-exCpE.. I'm just clocking off for the day.. as are allot of europe 17:53 ashimema you might have better luck trying again tomorrow a little earlier.. or weighting a couple of hours and hoping others come along that might be able to help 17:54 ashimema or use the mailing lists 17:54 ashimema We have various things working in zebra here including kanji and chinese.. so there is a way.. but I'm not sure what it is off the top of my head 17:54 ashimema ICU might be required as a starter 17:55 * ashimema runs off to save burning dinner 18:00 oleonard Oh no ashimema's fried mackerel is burning