Time  Nick          Message
03:06 philor        \]\
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06:49 reiveune      hello
06:49 wahanui       what's up, reiveune
09:05 ashimema      lol
09:05 magnuse       the dashboard is back now, at least it works for me
09:05 ashimema      zeeroo bugs here
09:05 ashimema      oh yeah.. so it is
09:05 ashimema      maybe rangi was working on it
09:06 magnuse       i think pastebot, wahanui and logbot are things he keeps an eye on too?
09:06 ashimema      perhaps
09:06 magnuse       could be a reboot of the server or something
09:07 ashimema      lol.. I just another bug in the pay method of Koha::Account
09:08 * magnuse     wishes he had more time to do signoffs. sigh.
09:10 nlegrand      Bon matin !
09:13 magnuse       kia ora nlegrand
09:19 nlegrand      Hiya magnuse !
09:26 magnuse       \o/
10:25 cm            hi
10:25 cm            what's the recommended way to delete duplicate authorities?
10:30 oleonard      cm: You can use batch record deletion to delete authority records as well as bibliographic records
10:31 oleonard      cm: You'll have to design a report that finds the duplicates I guess... not sure how that would work
10:31 oleonard      cm: Maybe check the SQL library
10:36 ashimema      morning oleonard
10:37 ashimema      an I ask about bug 27974?
10:37 huginn        Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27974 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Replace obsolete title-string sorting: Circulation templates
10:37 oleonard      yeah
10:37 ashimema      you do a bit of extra cleanup in on-site_checkouts.tt
10:38 ashimema      I presume it was deliberate.. my brain is still waking up and I've not worked out yet if there are any repercussions from the removal of those extra aoColumns etc settings
10:38 Joubu         ashimema, tcohen: https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker/-/merge_requests/194 (and with a perl script \o/)
10:38 * ashimema    doesn't think he's even see aLengthMenu before
10:39 ashimema      cool Joubu.. will take a look
10:40 oleonard      Most of it is handled now by defaults (aLengthMenu included)
10:40 ashimema      cool
10:41 oleonard      I found that the "sType" : "html" was redundant because DataTables handles the sorting fine without it
10:41 ashimema      I thought that was probably the case but just wanted to check.. I couldn't 'see' any issues
10:41 ashimema      awesome
10:42 ashimema      and the autoWidth.. I presume that's the default too
10:42 ashimema      thanks for taking this cleanup on btw.. I hope I didn't sound rude in my original bug report.. words sometimes escape me
10:42 oleonard      Actually I'm not sure it is, but probably should be? It seems like it's not always needed but I'm not sure there's an advantage to omitting it.
10:44 ashimema      apparently it's a performance thing.. but if you disable it.. you should also set specific widths youself
10:44 ashimema      so in this case.. I think your right removing it.. I'll double check whilst I'm here.
10:45 ashimema      I've wanted to fixed width a few columns for a while.. the thing that keeps stopping me is translations..
10:45 ashimema      once translated, so columns suddently need allot more space..
10:45 * ashimema    glares at the german langauge :P
10:49 oleonard      The performance thing makes sense... The disadvantage I see is that the tables often don't reflow correctly on page resize
10:49 oleonard      I probably resize my browser more than the average Koha user.
10:54 ashimema      signed off :)
10:57 oleonard      Thanks ashimema
10:57 ashimema      Thank you.. :)
11:01 oleonard      Weird...getting ElasticSearch indexing errors today...
11:02 oleonard      "One or more ElasticSearch errors occurred when indexing documents at /kohadevbox/koha/misc/search_tools/rebuild_elasticsearch.pl line 316."
11:04 ashimema      ooh.. did we push the bug that catches errors
11:05 ashimema      bug 26312
11:05 huginn        Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26312 major, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Add some error handling during Elasticsearch indexing
11:05 ashimema      so.. not that
11:08 tcohen        Joubu++
11:08 oleonard      If error-handling made the whole index crash because of an error...that would be bad.
11:08 * oleonard    refreshes everything
11:14 oleonard      Now "koha_db_1 exited with code 1" :(
11:16 pastebot      "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Error starting koha-testing-docker" (22 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/3
11:20 oleonard      Does anyone have any suggestions about that error?
11:28 oleonard      Don't make me go back to plain kohadevbox
11:29 Joubu         oleonard: did you docker down before?
11:30 oleonard      I did docker down. I did docker pull. I did docker prune.
11:31 magnuse       docker please?
11:31 wahanui       docker is not easy.... all confusing... I'm an old man. :P
11:31 Joubu         oleonard: then?
11:31 wahanui       then is the issue of legacy systems who can't implement that
11:32 Joubu         this is what I am using: docker-compose -p koha down; export LOCAL_USER_ID=$(id -u); export KOHA_IMAGE=master; docker-compose -f docker-compose.yml -p koha up --force-recreate
11:33 oleonard      Same result :(
11:36 * oleonard    brb
11:39 Joubu         @later tell oleonard df -h?
11:39 huginn        Joubu: The operation succeeded.
11:51 pastebot      "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Starting koha-testing-docker... more details" (107 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/4
11:52 tcohen        @seen lari
11:52 huginn        tcohen: lari was last seen in #koha 20 weeks, 0 days, 10 hours, 36 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <lari> jtmlis: nice. what was the issue?
11:53 tcohen        oleonard it seems that mariadb image is borked
11:54 tcohen        I would go with
11:55 tcohen        export KOHA_IMAGE=master-buster; docker-compose -f docker-compose-light.yml -f docker-compose.mariadb_d10.yml -p koha up
11:55 Joubu         es_1         | Exception in thread "main" java.nio.file.FileSystemException: /tmp/elasticsearch-16085515567341043379: No space left on device
11:55 Joubu         that's a no space left error
11:55 tcohen        ohhh
11:55 tcohen        I would go with the line I pasted anyway
11:55 tcohen        but
11:55 tcohen        docker volume pruna
11:55 tcohen        is probably the cause
11:56 Joubu         db_1         | 2021-03-18 11:50:04 140345142822912 [ERROR] InnoDB: Error in creating ./ibdata1: probably out of disk space
11:56 Joubu         so.. df -h? :)
11:59 oleonard      What does that mean Joubu ?
11:59 tcohen        oleonard are you on Windows?
11:59 oleonard      Mac
11:59 tcohen        ok
11:59 tcohen        use docker volume prune
11:59 tcohen        to remove leftovers that are not taken care of by docker system prune
12:00 tcohen        if you go to the docker preferences > resources
12:00 tcohen        you will notice the VM that is used to run docker
12:00 tcohen        has a disk space limit
12:00 tcohen        'Disk image size'
12:01 tcohen        you probably have spare disk space, but it is the docker image that is full
12:01 oleonard      docker seems to have a consistent problem with leaving junk lying around
12:02 tcohen        oleonard indeed
12:08 ashimema      I'm in the habit of pruning often
12:10 oleonard      And all that was probably the cause of my ElasticSearch index problem in the first place
12:10 oleonard      *sigh*
12:10 oleonard      Up and running again, though, thanks Joubu and tcohen
12:11 oleonard      This proves my theory that I should never use a computer more than once. Always start with a fresh one.
12:21 tcohen        LOL
12:59 eythian       Thanks for the reminder, I just did "docker image prune -a" on my work laptop that's constantly running out of space and got 72GB back.
13:05 SoniaB        Hi Koha ircers
13:06 oleonard      Hi SoniaB
13:06 SoniaB        Hi oleonard :)
13:14 cait1         hi SoniaB and oleonard :)
13:18 SoniaB        Hi cait1 :)
13:18 SoniaB        cait1: Oh I have a question for you
13:19 SoniaB        I was seeking information about the usage of template toolkit in the csv profile and I found this very usefull page : https://github.com/kfischer/koha/blob/master/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/help/tools/csv-profiles.tt
13:20 SoniaB        Is it something that will be in the manual ?
13:53 Joubu         SoniaB: I think it has been copied to the manual
13:54 Joubu         hum, cannot find it however
13:54 Joubu         SoniaB: if you have a gitlab account you should open an issue on the koha-manual project - https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-manual/-/issues
13:59 SoniaB        Joubu: Hi :) Ok but I'm not sure to understand what is the issue : that we should integrate the content about template toolkit in the manual?
13:59 Joubu         yes, the help pages have been removed from the Koha codebase. If there is something missing in the manual we should copy it there.
14:00 SoniaB        ok
14:00 Joubu         https://koha-community.org/manual/latest/en/html/tools.html?highlight=csv%20profile#using-csv-profiles
14:00 Joubu         it could be copied there
14:08 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 27835: DBRev 20.12.00.025 <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4e177268294ebb8a9c7430cfaca16a0724d73a6a>
14:08 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 27835: Turn off by default <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=675088752afcee77ddfd3279e617f0d657f1f81d>
14:08 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 27933: Fix patron search result ordering <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1b32e66380d5d7701b3f252e8d2be1cbf1622388>
14:08 nlegrand      o/ SoniaB.
14:08 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 27967: Add min attribute to borraccount modals <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a6d77fb4286c3be6fe513a95bc258b7b3fb45c03>
14:08 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 27835: (follow-up) Update language, remove warn, add feedback <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=deb2f6317a10ec202b2c45dbab663d7a61a43de2>
14:08 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 27835: Add a syspref to control fines calculation on closed days <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=151966d0967786ab235158b4c1a84e19788610b2>
14:08 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 27835: Add new syspref ChargeFinesOnCloseDay <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5007e24e90efeb76fe3d86a8fa832d52af30abc0>
14:08 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 27835: Revert "Bug 27180: (follow-up) Remove unused %is_holiday" <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1c4b4cbd91cc9888e9cdbdf1fe43a10c91bd157b>
14:08 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 27816: "Click to edit" in Point of sale is untranslatable <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=126326b8b3933cd64f8ddf34ad96fd69f3db3d0e>
14:09 TimothyAlexis Could someone please sign off bug 14783?
14:10 huginn        Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14783 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bjorn.nylen, Needs Signoff , Allow patrons to change pickup location for non-waiting holds
14:11 SoniaB        nlegrand: hi!
14:17 SoniaB        ashimema: Martin around here ? I have a question for you too ;-)
14:17 ashimema      hi
14:19 SoniaB        ashimema: Hi Martin :) KohaLA is going to organize a tiny virtual koha hackathon in two weeks and we would like to use the PTFS-E sandboxes
14:20 ashimema      go on
14:20 SoniaB        I noticed that when you you try to apply a patch that doesn't apply it is difficult to knew it: do you think that there is a way to display the information in the sandbox homepage ?
14:21 ashimema      Joubu and I are already working on it :)
14:21 SoniaB        Good news !
14:21 ashimema      though I'm not sure if I'll be done in time for that hackfest..
14:21 ashimema      it's a more difficult one to fix.. we've both testing out some changes we made to git-bz
14:22 ashimema      and then I need to also tie some extra things into the sandboxes to understand the error codes
14:22 ashimema      but yeah... I'm aware and picking at it ;)
14:22 SoniaB        Ok, we have to be careful then... joubu said me that we could see it in the log but it wasn't obvious for me...
14:23 SoniaB        ok, I have another request
14:23 ashimema      yeah.. it is indeed there.. but not obvious
14:23 ashimema      I think the git-bz fix we have made should at least make it much more obvious
14:23 ashimema      well.. obvious in the logs
14:23 ashimema      but what I really want is to highlight in the main UI that a sandbox didn't work properly
14:23 ashimema      go on
14:24 SoniaB        Do you think it is possible to add a key in the koha config to be able to use the pseudonymisation dev
14:24 ashimema      ooh.. erm.. probably
14:24 SoniaB        https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24151#c22
14:24 huginn        Bug 24151: new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to master , Add a pseudonymization process for patrons and transactions
14:24 ashimema      I have no idea how that stuff works
14:25 SoniaB        4/ You need to generate a key and put it in the koha-conf.xml file. The following command will generate one:   % htpasswd -bnBC 10 "" password | tr -d ':\n' | sed 's/$2y/$2a/'
14:25 ashimema      so it's just a random string in a config field
14:25 ashimema      tcohen around?
14:25 ashimema      or Joubu
14:26 ashimema      Does that need adding to k-t-d or dev-tools ?
14:26 SoniaB        Joubu: was here 30 mn ago..
14:27 ashimema      hehe..
14:28 ashimema      he's probably still lurking
14:28 ashimema      so yeah.. leave that one with me
14:28 ashimema      I'll track down which project the fix needs to go in.. it'll be one of those three.. sooo many moving parts to these things
14:29 cait1         SoniaB: that's not something I did, just my gitlab is terribly out of date - that's the old help page
14:29 cait1         sorry, missed the question earlier!
14:29 cait1         i believe i might even have written a bug for that already
14:30 SoniaB        cait1: old but very usefull :) Joubu said to me that I could open an issue on gitlab to have it in the manual : what I have done.
14:30 cait1         hm might be on th eold TAiga
14:30 cait1         SoniaB: actually better to open a normal bugzilla report
14:30 cait1         the Documentation team switched to using bugzilla this release
14:30 cait1         just use the "documentation" component
14:31 SoniaB        ashimema: lurking or packing ;-)
14:31 ashimema      perhaps
14:31 cait1         Joubu: manual bugs go on bugzilla :)
14:31 ashimema      he's a busy bee at the moment
14:31 cait1         for content
14:32 SoniaB        cait1: ok, I'm going to open a BZ too
14:33 cait1         caroline: around?
14:34 caroline      vaguely
14:34 caroline      whats up?
14:34 cait1         ah
14:34 cait1         just checking I am right: content issues witht he manual go on bugzilla preferrably
14:34 caroline      yes
14:35 cait1         technical issues could go on gitlab?
14:35 cait1         or not use gitlab at all?
14:35 caroline      there is no rule for technical bugs, but I think devs use gitlab more
14:36 caroline      devs = Joubu and ashimema mainly
14:36 ashimema      :)
14:38 cait1         caroline++
14:38 cait1         SoniaB++
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14:43 Joubu         cait1: erk indeed, I forgot that!
14:43 Joubu         habits...
14:43 Joubu         cait1: don't you remember we moved that stuffs to the manual at some points?
14:43 Joubu         or at least had the discussion?
14:44 Joubu         maybe there is a patch somewhere already
14:44 caroline      going back to my training...
14:45 cait1         Joubu: we couldn't really
14:45 cait1         not systematically
14:45 cait1         I think nengard's workflow was adding to the manual and the updating the help files
14:46 cait1         but in this case I suspect the developer (you?) updated the help files witht he patch set and it got missed
14:46 cait1         i guess we could maybe filter updates to thehelp files... (commits) that have not been authored by nicole for a potential list of suspects?
14:51 Joubu         yes, ashimema, we could generate automatically the entry in the config
14:51 Joubu         the bcrypt_settings is actually missing from ktd
14:52 Joubu         we should have a ktd var (.env) and use it in the conf
14:53 Joubu         env/defaults.env:BCRYPT_SETTINGS=
14:53 Joubu         files/templates/koha-conf-site.xml.in: <bcrypt_settings>${BCRYPT_SETTINGS}</bcrypt_settings>
14:53 Joubu         that should be enough
14:53 Joubu         but then you need to generate it in ksd
14:59 ashimema      :)
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15:26 oleonard      When debug mode is enabled for an SMTP server where do errors get logged?
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15:41 oleonard      When sorting by multiple late order claim dates which date should be used? The first or the last?
15:41 oleonard      cait1: Maybe you have an opinion?
15:45 * oleonard    finds himself alone, so blasts his music real loud
15:49 koha-jenkins  Yippee, build fixed!
15:49 wahanui       Congratulations!
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16:16 reiveune      bye
16:19 cait1         oleonard: sorry, which page are we looking at?
16:19 cait1         missing a bit of context
16:19 oleonard      Late orders
16:19 cait1         and still writing training materials for next week....
16:19 cait1         ok, looking at the tables there?
16:19 cait1         hm
16:19 cait1         the last
16:20 oleonard      The last claimed date should be the one sorted on?
16:20 cait1         my reasonig would be that you would want to check when you last sent a claim to see if you want to do it again
16:20 cait1         s the "newest date" if that makes sense?
16:20 oleonard      I *think* that's how it currently works, but not sure it's by design.
16:21 cait1         we are not yet on the vrsion with the multiple date option i have to admit
16:21 oleonard      So I'll take your opinion as confirmation that it really should.
16:21 cait1         so haven't worked iwth it, but it hink i like newest
16:22 cait1         but you can leave the music on loud .)
16:22 oleonard      WHAT? I CAN'T HEAR YOU THE MUSIC IS TOO LOUD
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16:31 cait1         EXACTLY
21:49 rangi         hello