Time Nick Message 20:33 slef when you use build-git-snapshot does it save the git changelog since the last version tag in the build anywhere? 20:14 cait still no huginn eh? 20:14 cait bug 100 20:14 cait are you getting bored? 19:57 * oleonard foolishly wonders how hard it would be to rebuild the patron card creator in JavaScript 19:36 caroline_catlady lol! 19:33 oleonard I like that there is a barcode format called "daft." 19:05 reiveune bye 19:04 caroline_catlady rangi++ 19:03 rangi done 18:59 caroline_catlady thx rangi! 18:59 rangi will do caroline_catlady 18:41 oleonard khall_: Around? 18:36 oleonard Add barcode image generator service for OPAC https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26692 18:36 * oleonard shakes his fist at missing huginn 18:35 * oleonard forgot about Bug 26692 17:56 * oleonard wonders why we offer the barcode types we do.... several others are in the code and commented out 17:55 oleonard gmcharlt: around? 17:54 * oleonard should have @seened chris_n anyway 17:54 oleonard Oh dang is that huginn too? 17:53 oleonard @seen chrisn 17:05 cait but yes, we worked on 20.05 and are finished for now - so hence wanting to update before moving on to 20.11 17:05 cait oh sorry, got pulled into something here 16:58 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1573: NOW UNSTABLE in 1 hr 2 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1573/ 16:53 caroline_catlady I just emailed Bernardo, I put you (cait and ashimema) in cc 16:52 ashimema there will be in a minute if I can work it out 16:51 caroline_catlady ah, maybe it didn't work because there are no 20.11 po files right now 16:48 ashimema I'll have another go 16:48 ashimema I ran it for 20.11 16:48 ashimema ok 16:47 caroline_catlady Translation update - Koha manual 20.05 - 20210301 (2021-03-01 13:15:06 -0300) 16:47 caroline_catlady 20.05 16:46 ashimema what version did you translate cait? 16:44 caroline_catlady Yeah, I don't see the merge button... It's like there is a merge request without a commit 16:44 ashimema ffs 16:44 ashimema except.. it already says it can't be merged.. 16:43 ashimema just clikg the merge button 16:43 ashimema what you will see is a merge request in gitlab 16:43 ashimema you won't get the email this time.. I put my own in to test it. 16:43 caroline_catlady Do I have to do seomthing once I get the email? 16:42 ashimema it just worked for me 16:42 ashimema not sure what cait did.. 16:42 ashimema merge request is there now caroline 16:42 caroline_catlady [off] I was on the verge of burnout in the fall because of them, so they can stay in their frickin cave foerever imo... Fortunalely, I have a good boss who took some of the burden along with me 16:40 oleonard [off] Like a dragon gone back to their cave to sleep 16:39 caroline_catlady [off] our grumpy client is on hiatus for a while, so I have a bit more time/less stress right now, so I can work a bit more on community stuff 16:38 caroline_catlady yeah... sorry :/ 16:38 ashimema problem with this stuff is we write it and then no-one uses it for 6 months 16:38 ashimema looking at why merge request didn't happen 16:34 oleonard I wonder if there has been any call for more barcode types in the patron card creator tool 16:33 ashimema they're growing in size quickly now.. with each translation duplicating all the images etc 16:32 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #483: UNSTABLE in 51 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/483/ 16:32 ashimema but yes.. eventually it will be a problem again if we don't start archiving off the old manuals somehow 16:32 ashimema wizzyrea doubled the disk for us 16:31 caroline_catlady she did the pull request from the tool, but It's not creating a merge request in the manual repo 16:31 caroline_catlady cait and I are trying to get the new de-DE translations into the manual 16:30 caroline_catlady hi! 16:29 ashimema hi 16:29 caroline_catlady we got the bigger disc from wizzyrea, but eventually, it's going to be a problem again, i think 16:28 cait it might be solved by bigger disc? but not sure 16:28 cait probably need ashimema for this one 16:28 cait but that would resolve some issues 16:28 cait oh not sure 16:28 cait sorry, i think I was not around for that discussion 16:25 caroline_catlady I think we wanted to point from koha-community.org directly to his manusl, was that it? 16:24 caroline_catlady cait do you remember what was the other thing I had to ask Bernardo? About the duplication of koha-community.org/manual vs translate.koha-community.org/*manual 16:20 cait caroline_catlady: we had a bit of help, but even then it takes long and it needs a proof reading - stuff like broken links slip in quickly 16:19 caroline_catlady I got the email from the pull request, but it didn't create a merge request in the manual 16:18 caroline_catlady at least if you're up to date, future translations should be quicker 16:18 caroline_catlady ashimema around? 16:17 caroline_catlady I know, I'm so disenhearted by our manual (in fr-CA), its so much work I don't even know where to begin 16:16 cait and it took forever :) 16:16 cait we now got all chapters translted but systempreferences and license... 16:15 cait it did finish 16:14 caroline_catlady I think maybe ashimema did it more recently to set up the automatisation 16:14 caroline_catlady caroline.cyr-la-rose@inlibro.com 16:14 cait hm ok, then it might explain it, i will check again once merged 16:14 caroline_catlady you can put in my email 16:14 caroline_catlady I did it in december 16:13 cait shuld i put your email or mine? 16:13 cait do you know when that was last done? becuase the translations on the website seemed quite old compared with bernardo's preview 16:13 caroline_catlady yeah it's for evertyhing 16:13 cait thank you! 16:13 caroline_catlady no, I keep forgetting... I'll add it to my to-do priority for today 16:13 cait hm you don't have to give the language, that' sok? 16:12 cait the next question: have you talked to Bernardo about po files for 20.11 yet? 16:12 caroline_catlady it should automatiqucally create a merge request in the manual repo 16:12 cait ok, I will give it a go 16:12 caroline_catlady https://translate.koha-community.org/tools/ 16:11 caroline_catlady 1 sec 16:11 caroline_catlady You can create a pull request... I just have to find you the link 16:11 * oleonard knows caroline_catlady has such a bad reputation for her temper ;) 16:11 cait do you do that or should i create a pull request somehow? 16:11 cait I think we are finished with manual po for 20.05 now - how do I get those into the main repo and then on the website? :) 16:11 caroline_catlady though the fact that I need to be in a good mood kinda scares me 16:10 caroline_catlady course 16:10 caroline_catlady of source 16:10 cait do you have a moment for 2 questions? :) 16:10 cait caroline_catlady: now that I have mentioned icecream and you are in agood mood 16:08 tcohen of course 16:07 oleonard I did reading that question 16:07 slef Does everyone else get the Bowie song in their head when they see the starman process running or is it just me? 15:48 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #517: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 5 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/517/ 15:46 caroline_catlady huginn is gone? 15:46 caroline_catlady hm 15:45 caroline_catlady @later tell rangi now that the server issues are resolved, can you change the link for the "latest" manual to point to 20.11? 15:45 caroline_catlady @leter tell rangi now that the server issues are resolved, can you change the link for the "latest" manual to point to 20.11? 15:40 caroline_catlady looks nice! 15:39 caroline_catlady oleonard: your hypothesis makes more sense, but I prefer cait's :P 15:39 oleonard I was thinking it would be nice to let the user know what steps were coming up: https://snipboard.io/mDg9i1.jpg 15:38 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1572: FAILURE in 4 min 9 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1572/ 15:36 oleonard I guess if your sysadmin is installing Koha the term won't sound too weird. 15:35 oleonard I suspect the usage passed from "flavors of Unix" to "flavors of Linux" to "flavors of MARC" 15:33 caroline_catlady Cookie dough MARC 15:32 caroline_catlady icecream++ 15:31 cait oleonard: maybe... they were thinking of making it sound nicer... this way it makes you forget about the MARC part and think about icecream? 13:52 cait TomothyAlexis++ 13:52 cait and thx for forwarding my message! 13:51 cait it was great to "get out" a little bit :) 13:50 TimothyAlexis Thank you for the presentation. 13:50 TimothyAlexis It was nice to see you and I think it is good for everyone to get some motivation to contribute. 13:48 TimothyAlexis cait: Done ;) 13:48 oleonard Who started referring to it as a "MARC flavor" ? I've come to the sudden realization that that is weird. 13:41 oleonard cait: I'm sending this message back in time so that we don't create a paradox 13:40 cait Joubu++ 13:39 cait thx 13:38 cait ths one looks very suspicious at least! 13:34 Joubu cait: 27099 maybe? 13:28 cait oh, fixed with 20.05 at least 13:26 cait i hate those :( 13:26 cait oleonard-away: got a nice new bug report - the button for doing batch due date change is not displaying in chrome 13:24 tcohen as an intermediate storage/cache 13:23 tcohen slef maybe we should start using gitlab's artifact repo 13:23 cait TimothyAlexis: I didn't realize before that you worked with Maria - can you say hi from me? I saw her comment at the meeting, but didn't get to respond :) 13:21 cait oh oops.... scroll down first, cait 13:21 cait slef: is there none on debian.kc.org? 13:15 TimothyAlexis If I want to add this <select> to the holds-table.inc, is there anything I need to think about in opac-user.pl ? 13:14 oleonard I'm fine with that too, I just didn't think it mattered that much if it was still there 13:14 Joubu oleonard: mine was removing the redirect actually 13:13 Joubu thanks oleonard, I was about to attach a patch :) 13:13 TimothyAlexis What are these? "options_for_libraries" and "at_least_one_library_not_available_for_pickup" 13:12 oleonard Joubu: I've attached a suggested revision. 13:12 TimothyAlexis Currently I'm looking at 20.05.03 13:11 tcohen in which Koha version? 13:11 TimothyAlexis I'm looking at opac-reserve.pl and opac-reserve.tt to check the logic for the pick up location <select> element. 13:03 oleonard I see that cait made a similar comment on the bug 12:58 oleonard Joubu: to be honest I think we should remove the text about the redirect. Why have it at this stage of the process? What's it for? 12:55 Joubu otherwise it's like the 2 actions are unrelated 12:55 * oleonard will look now 12:54 Joubu IMO we are missing the "if not" part 12:54 Joubu oleonard: do you agree with the patches on 27473? 12:47 tcohen great album 12:47 slef oleonard: go north 12:46 oleonard slef: You thought you had a magical bag of holding but it turns out it just empties into my junk drawer. 12:45 slef oleonard: what are you doing with the contents of my saddlebag? 12:43 oleonard Hi slef. Sorry, all I've got here is a Scrabble tile with the letter E (1 point), a 1984 50-cent coin, and a 64MB SanDisk SmartMedia camera memory card. 12:42 slef https://download.koha-community.org/old_releases/ contains the tarballs not debs... or I could build it from clean git... hmm 12:40 slef (I think someone has been editing a koha without leaving notes...) 12:39 slef Has anyone a copy of koha-common_19.05.04*.deb cached anywhere that they can let me download, please? 12:39 tcohen hi slef! 12:38 slef tcohen: good $TZAG 12:37 tcohen morning 12:32 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1571: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 2 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1571/ 12:11 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #516: SUCCESS in 52 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/516/ 11:49 TimothyAlexis oleonard++ 11:48 TimothyAlexis If anyone notices the syntax error in what I posted at [12:38], I've fixed it... 11:46 TimothyAlexis That's a better description. 11:44 pastebot "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "TimothyAlexis: My suggestion:" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/27945 11:43 pastebot "TimothyAlexis" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Is this correct for opac.pref?" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/27944 11:42 TimothyAlexis Also, I'm wondering if 'suspended' should be one of the options. We don't use that one at our library. 11:40 oleonard Hi #koha 11:38 TimothyAlexis ('OpacAllowPickupLocationChange','','Pending, In-Transit, Suspended','Allow patrons to change pickup location for these statuses.).','multiple'), 11:38 TimothyAlexis How should this system preference be written in opac.pref? 11:29 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #482: SUCCESS in 59 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/482/ 11:22 ashimema I like bug 27267 but am imagining finding someone to QA it could be challenging. 11:21 ashimema humm.. anyone here familiar with IPC and forking/threading... 11:07 ashimema ooh.. good point 11:06 fridolin some other hooks are missing there 11:06 fridolin https://github.com/bywatersolutions/dev-koha-plugin-kitchen-sink/pull/15 for our beloved plugin 11:01 ashimema it was written with the recalls plugin in mind 10:59 cait fridolin++ 10:59 ashimema we had a copy of it I used whilst testing.. I must have forgotten to squash in the use fix for the bugzilla entry.. and no-one noticed 10:58 ashimema in production I reckon yes, it didn't work 10:56 fridolin https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27820 10:56 wahanui no idea, fridolin 10:56 fridolin wahanui: ? 10:56 fridolin Bug 27820 this feature never worked :) 10:43 cait anti-spam email config is so annoying 10:43 cait (not me) heh 10:43 cait maybe someone could email gmcharlt? 10:42 cait ah I see :) 10:42 ashimema dashboard random quotes 10:42 cait hm? where did my quote come from? 10:36 Joubu ha, indeed 10:35 ashimema no bots :( 10:35 Joubu bots, I pushed things! 10:34 ashimema I was laying down the gauntlet.. don't want to make it too hard for people :P 10:33 ashimema hahah 10:33 Joubu :D 10:33 Joubu I am sure you can do better 10:33 Joubu it's a fragile one, it's only "1"! 10:30 wahanui i think https://dashboard.koha-community.org/ is up again :D 10:30 ashimema https://dashboard.koha-community.org/ 10:30 ashimema occupation complete :) 10:20 ashimema just need to find a bug to rescue now and my occupation will be complete.. mwhahaha.... 10:15 ashimema okies.. thanks 10:14 Joubu no 10:10 ashimema is `Alvaro Cornejo` new? 10:01 ashimema full circle on PQA and FQA.. first of the month makes this easy.. hehe 09:49 ashimema That's gotta be cait 09:49 ashimema ' i can not not plan! i am german!' 09:42 ashimema this patch is pretty good.. but I'm finding lots of little hard to spot edge cases. 09:42 ashimema I feel mean 09:31 cait good catch 09:30 cait ah I see 09:28 ashimema problem is.. I tihnk that relation will explode in some cases where the key's are broken 09:27 ashimema but what it does do is add a dbic relation 09:27 ashimema it doesn't.. 09:27 cait to #koha - checking version numbers on our demos now to update website, if you plan an update or want it updated within the month, let me know https://koha-community.org/demo/ 09:26 cait i would not even have thought of a database chance in there 09:25 cait does it constrain? 09:25 cait oh 09:25 ashimema me too 09:25 cait i really miss that bot 09:24 ashimema I think bug 22690 is a fqa then 09:24 cait don't disagree there 09:24 ashimema which is a right pain 09:24 ashimema we can't add it because we use the deleted tables stuff 09:24 ashimema your right 09:23 cait and as i can not get it otherwiese, we cannot add the constraint now i think 09:23 cait i want theinformation 09:23 cait no 09:23 ashimema so you actually want broken relationships 09:23 cait that's a discussion for another day 09:23 ashimema god damn I hate our 'delete_' tables 09:22 cait and you can unbreak it... it's only broken because of our split table design 09:22 cait i am pretty usre i use that connection in our inventory book reports 09:22 cait we want to know why an item was deleted, it being connected to a cancelled order is valuable 09:22 ashimema as in... it's really odd to have a link table where links can be broken 09:21 cait so ... i think this could be a reason 09:21 cait if you break the connection, we lose the information about orders from deleted items 09:21 cait i think there are reasons to keep it 09:21 cait i mean how do you want to constrain it? 09:21 cait in which way? 09:16 ashimema or rather.. aqorders_item and items 09:15 ashimema can anyone here see a reason not to add a proper constraint between aqorders and items? 09:09 Joubu @later tell mtj we need a fix for 26893 ASAP, please give me some updates about it 09:09 Joubu mtj: we need a fix for 26893 ASAP, please give me some updates about it 09:09 Joubu mtj: ? 09:02 Joubu we can fix and test more carefully, yes 08:57 cait so it might be more disruptive than fixing? 08:57 cait Joubu: we can revert, but will it remove lines from crontabs? I just merged ours and never sure how that works for people that use standard packages 08:56 ashimema I actually thought we exported cronlogaction from Koha::Script.. but it appears not 08:54 Joubu If it hasn't been tested it must be reverted from stable 08:53 ashimema mm 08:53 cait and is in the standard crontab... i think push the fix fast and then care about the future :) 08:53 Joubu for next cycle I'd say 08:53 cait this enh hs been backported 08:52 ashimema but I have no idea when or if anyone is going to commit to that 08:52 ashimema I'm still torn about this one now... I'd really like to see a team effort for getting the task queue viable and usable as a schedular 08:52 ashimema grr 08:52 ashimema maybe no-one tested it after.. I wouldnt' surprise me that I managed to miss our a final merged commit with the use statement so it worked locally but the patch was bad 08:51 ashimema Well, in the end I never implemented/updated the plugins I wrote it for to use it.. as it was ended up way more contentious than I thought.. I had a local test plugin I used to test it when i wrote it 08:50 cait not sure if that would do it i didn't touch that one myself 08:50 cait maybe logs were turned off? 08:50 Joubu ashimema: I am a bit worried about this one. The cronaction statement is there since the first patch. Does it mean the patch never got tested correctly? 08:45 cait gmcharlt: are you around and could you bring back our beloved huginn bot? :) 08:45 cait which bot are we missing? huginn? 08:44 ashimema just QAing bug 22690 at the minute 08:44 ashimema will get onto it later today 08:44 cait :) 08:44 ashimema oopsie on my part.. can't imagine how I left out the use line 08:44 ashimema yup 08:44 cait1 found it? 08:43 ashimema lol 08:43 cait1 will I ever get a bug number right on hte first try? 08:43 cait1 27820 08:43 cait1 hm typoed 08:43 cait1 bug 27829 08:43 ashimema I don't see a bug with that number cait1 08:42 ashimema 27829? 08:42 ashimema Mornin' #koha 08:04 cait1 good morning #koha 08:03 wahanui bidet, Joubu 08:03 Joubu Hi there 07:52 alex_a Bonjour 07:52 magnuse \o/ 07:52 cait first timer bug fix on bug 27829! This is no practice! :) 07:33 wahanui que tal, reiveune 07:33 reiveune hello