Time  Nick          Message
19:54 caroline      cool!
19:54 oleonard      Maybe this? https://zivotdesign.com/p/view.php?p=16143692116112
18:58 caroline      ashimema++
18:48 ashimema      20.11 and 21.05 links should be working now :)
18:48 ashimema      Yeah, first pair of successful builds for the manual for a while
16:30 cait1         but yep, i think back to qa for this one :)
16:27 oleonard      You're right I'll go ahead and do that
16:26 cait1         if the space issue is always ther we should just file a separate bug for it i guess?
16:26 cait1         your comment reads good
16:26 cait1         scary!
16:24 oleonard      no huginn, no gmcharlt!
16:24 cait1         bug 5697
16:24 cait1         oleonard: sorry way behind on bug mail, hope to catch up over the weekend
15:59 reiveune      bye
15:56 oleonard      cait1: Did you see my recent comment on Bug 5697?
15:45 cait1         ashimema++ caroline++ wizzyrea++
15:31 ashimema      see the two blue spinning ones ;)
15:31 caroline      thanks ashimema! wizzyrea++
15:31 ashimema      https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-manual/-/pipelines
15:30 ashimema      but it'll take a while for the builds to run now
15:30 ashimema      that's what I just fixed.
15:30 ashimema      it's not just you
15:30 caroline      ah that must be it
15:30 ashimema      yup
15:30 ashimema      I've just triggered a couple of builds for you caroline.. hopefully we'll have up to date 20.11 and 21.05 manuals again soon
15:30 caroline      When I go to https://koha-community.org/manual/20.11/en/html/ and click on Administration, I get a "Not found" error, can someone confirm it's not just me?
15:30 ashimema      wizzyrea++ #gifting us more disk for the manuals
15:09 caroline      huh, I didn't know the reference! Then again, I'm not much a fan of experimental french movies
14:54 oleonard      I've seen it here and there... On the other hand I re-watched La Planète sauvage just the other day!
14:48 caroline      with the aliens
14:48 caroline      yes
14:47 oleonard      caroline: The comic?
14:40 caroline      oleonard-away: did you ever read Strange planet? If not, I think it'd be right up your alley :)
14:21 magnuse       yeah, that saved me some hours and some grey hair, i bet
14:21 magnuse       and it is included from the util file, not the main xslt...
14:21 oleonard      Hooray, my past pain has helped someone!
14:20 magnuse       oleonard++ a thousand times over
14:20 magnuse       right you are!
14:20 oleonard      I think that one is fairly new, and I think it tripped me up the last time I was trying to make it work.
14:19 magnuse       oops
14:19 oleonard      Did you copy MARC21Languages.xsl?
14:18 magnuse       @quote add oleonard> magnuse: Did you do the little dance and say the magic words?
14:17 magnuse       gah, that must be it!
14:17 oleonard      magnuse: Did you do the little dance and say the magic words?
14:14 magnuse       huh, trying to make a custom xslt, i copied the marc21 intranet detail xslt and MARC21slimUtils.xsl to /home/vagrant/kohaclone/, set  XSLTDetailsDisplay to the right path, set <xsl:import href="/home/vagrant/kohaclone/MARC21slimUtils.xsl"/>, restarted all the things. but detail view does not show any data from the marc record. nothing in the logs. what am i forgetting?
13:23 TimothyAlexis oleonard++
13:19 oleonard      Suspended, Suspended until <date>
13:17 TimothyAlexis Which statuses can appear in the /cgi-bin/koha/opac-user.pl#opac-user-holds table? I know Pending, In-transit and Waiting, are there any more?
13:07 oleonard      Do email preferences typically accept multiple values?
12:52 oleonard      I guess the default root@localhost is considered valid, so I shouldn't worry.
12:46 oleonard      https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27805
12:46 oleonard      would Bug 27805 cause problems for systems which use some kind of non-standard local value for something like KohaAdminEmailAddress? Some kind of localhost address?
12:41 tcohen        \o/
12:37 magnuse       ¡hola tcohen!
12:35 tcohen        morning
12:35 * oleonard    feels oblivious
12:34 oleonard      I was today years old when I learned about the HTML <datalist> element. :|
12:28 kohaputti     if you have selected the holdsneedprocessingsip syspref, so then when book is returned via a SIP2 machine it goes to processing instead of being immediately available/waiting. Especially useful now during COVID-19 when books needs to be "quarantined"
12:26 oleonard      Under what circumstances is a hold "P" ?
12:25 kohaputti     currently we have: T, P, W
12:25 kohaputti     yes
12:25 oleonard      kohaputti: A status which can appear in reserves.found?
12:22 kohaputti     cait1, I added recently the processing status
12:22 cait1         and I am not aware of bugs adding other statuses - i think they have been like that forever
12:22 kohaputti     and pretty much everywhere it is hard coded, but I am planning to submit a patch for that...
12:22 kohaputti     hard coding sounds the way to go for me as well, because we don't have hold_statuses table or anything.
12:21 TimothyAlexis OK, thank you.
12:21 cait1         they are pretty static and people can't add to them
12:21 cait1         i think so
12:21 TimothyAlexis So perhaps it would make sense to hardcode them?
12:21 oleonard      TimothyAlexis: I don't think there's a single official list that will let you avoid hardcoding it
12:20 kohaputti     hmm, do we do anywhere exception handling, like could Koha::Hold::set_pickup_location just throw not allowed and then the script would need to handle that?
12:20 oleonard      Much of it is based on reserves.found, but there's also information from reserves.suspend
12:19 TimothyAlexis And rather than hardcoding the options into the system preference, I'm thinking it would be better to get them.
12:18 TimothyAlexis The setting would define for which of these a patron is allowed to change pickup location.
12:17 TimothyAlexis I'm thinking about the statuses in the holds table at https://koha-test.lub.lu.se/cgi-bin/koha/opac-user.pl#opac-user-holds
12:16 kohaputti     depending on your use case, note that there is also $hold->is_found
12:16 kohaputti     TimothyAlexis, if you have Koha::Hold object then $hold->found() should work
12:13 oleonard      The fact that this information is duplicated probably leads to problems when the transfer or the hold status isn't updated correctly in both places.
12:12 oleonard      In-transit means there is an entry in branchtransfers which doesn't have  a "datearrived" value
12:12 TimothyAlexis What is in-transit then?
12:11 TimothyAlexis :\
12:11 oleonard      I guess the "T" value for reserves.found corresponds to a transfer
12:09 oleonard      TimothyAlexis: But in-transit isn't a hold status
12:08 oleonard      TimothyAlexis: Some of it comes from the value in reserves.found
12:03 TimothyAlexis https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14783
12:02 TimothyAlexis And also, if it would be possible to use these as options in a multiple select system preference. bug 14783
12:01 TimothyAlexis Does anyone know where I can get the hold statuses? Such as Waiting, In transit, etc...
11:41 kohaputti     but this series is already big enough for one person to review so not adding more stuff here
11:40 kohaputti     added a comment about that, we need to pass around Koha::Hold to make it happen
11:40 ashimema      It's a great piece of work
11:40 ashimema      your solution is nice and pragmatic and I'm more than happy with it :)
11:40 ashimema      yeah, I had a feeling it might be challenging to get the transit to location.. it's weird.. holds and transfers seem to internlinked, but then when you dig into the code they're not at all well linked
11:38 ashimema      sounds good to me kohaputti :)
11:29 tuxayo        Hi #Koha :)
11:27 oleonard      Sound good to me kohaputti
11:25 kohaputti     uh, I think I might just go with "Item has an hold and is in transit for NAME", someone correct me if ungrammatical :P
11:23 oleonard      Correct
11:23 kohaputti     The other messages use the word Reserve vs. Hold, but if I remember right Hold was the preferred term nowadays
11:22 kohaputti     or "Hold found for NAME and item is in transit"
11:21 kohaputti     ashimema, https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25690#c14 – you had good comments there, I'm preparing follow-up but we can't get the destination branch without more refactoring so I will leave that job to someone else (or me later). Can I ask you does "Item is on hold and in transit for NAME" sound good as warning message?
11:15 oleonard      HI #koha
09:13 ashimema      :D
09:12 magnuse       i have talked about signoffs to them, could probably be done again :-)
09:10 ashimema      coolios
09:08 cait1         heh
09:08 cait1         this was about using bugzilla, so aiming for commenting, what status means wheat etc.
09:08 * ashimema    is in a bug unsticking mood this morning.. hope it doesn't end up like wading through treacle
09:07 cait1         small steps !
09:05 ashimema      or even better.. signoffs?
09:05 ashimema      likely any code will come of those bugs?
09:05 ashimema      woopie
09:04 cait1         just finished talking to the swedish user group about bugzilla, so we can expect many new bug reports incoming i hope
09:03 ashimema      How is everyone today.. good I hope :-)
09:01 magnuse       hiya ashimema
09:00 ashimema      morning
08:10 jsicot        Morning #koha
07:59 cait1         good morning #koha
07:54 reiveune      hello
07:07 marcelr       dashboard sleepy ?
07:06 marcelr       hi #koha
00:34 marie-luce    have a lovely day or night all