Time  Nick          Message
22:20 dcook         Yeah I'll just respond on the bug. I can probably track down some good links
22:19 dcook         Sorry to miss ashimema
22:19 dcook         Oops I was on the phone
22:19 caroline      In french we say something/someone "has a large back" when we blame everything on this/them... Autocorrect has a large back :P
22:18 caroline      I still have to email bernardo avec the duplicates... I started last wekk and then forgot
22:17 ashimema      Mobile autocorrect
22:17 wahanui       i think er is as you said c
22:17 ashimema      Er...
22:17 caroline      oh cool! thanks!
22:17 caroline      ashimema are you using the royal we? lol
22:17 ashimema      Liz is adding space to the server btw.. to get the build running again
22:16 ashimema      We... Pass
22:15 caroline      in acquisitions, the label is acquisitions-label and in faq the label is faq-acquisitions-label
22:15 caroline      For example, I'm getting /inlibro/git/koha-manual/source/acquisitions.rst:6: WARNING: duplicate label acquisitions, other instance in /inlibro/git/koha-manual/source/faq.rst
22:13 caroline      I can't figure out what it wants... I go to the line and the labels are different (they contain the same words but they are different e.g. something-label and something-else-label cause warnings)
22:12 caroline      anyone familiar with sphix know how to resolve "duplicate label" warnings?
22:12 ashimema      Have a good day dcook
22:12 ashimema      Anywho.. it's bed time for me..
22:11 ashimema      Found a few more issues with our workers today..  like if a job fails it's kills the worker entirely.. one tak failing should block all other tasks in my opinion.
22:10 ashimema      But I asked on the bug instead
22:10 ashimema      Was going to ask about the memory leak you found in back ground workers
22:03 huginn        dcook: The operation succeeded.
22:03 dcook         @later tell ashimema I was definitely still sleeping when you invoked my name heh
20:59 davidnind     catch you all later..
20:58 davidnind     which means I should probably go to work now...
20:58 tuxayo        davidnind: nice!
20:57 davidnind     i was about to go to work, then had a quick look at the log, saw that there was a meeting then my item... pure luck I looked!
20:56 tuxayo        and even knew the messages before you joined the channel?
20:56 tuxayo        davidnind: by what kind of super power did you knew we were talking about your stuff
20:55 tuxayo        yw ^^
20:55 davidnind     You are a seasoned pro now! Thanks for chairing.
20:54 tuxayo        This wiki page is great :) https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Chairing_meetings
20:53 tuxayo        davidnind: second time
20:53 ashimema      Thanks for hosting tuxayo
20:53 ashimema      Sorry, got distracted
20:53 davidnind     Is that your first time chairing a meeting? ran very smoothly looking through the logs!
20:51 tuxayo        thanks for attending :)
20:51 davidnind     tuxayo++
20:51 oleonard      tuxayo++
20:51 huginn        Log:            https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/development_irc_meeting_24_february_2021.2021-02-24-20.05.log.html
20:51 huginn        Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/development_irc_meeting_24_february_2021.2021-02-24-20.05.txt
20:51 huginn        Minutes:        https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/development_irc_meeting_24_february_2021.2021-02-24-20.05.html
20:51 huginn        Meeting ended Wed Feb 24 20:51:18 2021 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
20:51 tuxayo        #endmeeting
20:51 tuxayo        #info Next meeting: 10 March 2021, 15:00 UTC
20:51 tuxayo        Yes, no collision
20:50 davidnind     +1
20:50 oleonard      10 March?
20:49 davidnind     +1
20:49 tuxayo        This was the late one so next one will should be 15:00 UTC
20:48 tuxayo        #topic Set time of next meeting
20:47 huginn        yes (4): oleonard, tuxayo, thd, davidnind
20:47 huginn        Voted on "Ok for using OPAC instead of Opac or opac?" Results are
20:47 tuxayo        #endvote
20:46 tuxayo        Closing in 1min. cc cait ashimema caroline
20:45 thd           #vote yes
20:45 davidnind     #vote yes
20:45 tuxayo        sorry for the delay
20:45 oleonard      #vote yes
20:45 tuxayo        #vote yes
20:44 tuxayo        finally found the syntax!
20:44 huginn        Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
20:44 huginn        Begin voting on: Ok for using OPAC instead of Opac or opac? Valid vote options are , no, yes, abstain, .
20:44 tuxayo        #startvote Ok for using OPAC instead of Opac or opac? (no, yes, abstain)
20:43 oleonard      +1
20:43 davidnind     +1
20:42 thd           +1
20:42 tuxayo        lol oleonard
20:42 tuxayo        Shall we call a vote? We are around 7 people I think
20:42 oleonard      Agreed. It's official. Motion passes. Unanimous.
20:41 tuxayo        *it's
20:40 tuxayo        ok, it clear now :)
20:40 davidnind     hi tuxayo!
20:40 davidnind     I'm not sure what I meant either? Just meant  to use OPAC instead of Opac or opac in things like system preferences.
20:39 tuxayo        hi davidnind  :)
20:39 oleonard      There he is
20:39 oleonard      Nor do I.
20:38 tuxayo        That makes sense with «use OPAC instead of opac» but I don't get the rest
20:38 oleonard      I think this is specifically about using capitalized "OPAC" in system preferences
20:36 tuxayo        Confused about: «or OPAC for online public access catalog»
20:35 tuxayo        Are we enough people to review coding guidelines?
20:35 tuxayo        including in system preference names. (davidnind) »
20:35 tuxayo        «Terminology list - proposed addition for OPAC: use OPAC instead of opac or OPAC for online public access catalog,
20:35 tuxayo        #topic Review of coding guidelines
20:33 oleonard      I think it means the RM should have lots of leeway for doing the upgrade.
20:33 oleonard      I think ashimema's point about node only being for dev tasks is a good one
20:32 ashimema      Mmm
20:31 thd           Common frameworks should make things more robust, not more brittle :)
20:31 ashimema      I'm not the best to advise.. it's been on my list for years to get myself up to date in that scene
20:30 ashimema      Indeed
20:30 ashimema      Mmm
20:30 tuxayo        Because yarn/npm will then be used for installation and update of Koha right?
20:30 ashimema      [off] I regularly get warned about old node dependencies we use
20:29 ashimema      If/when we move to front end framework if we use yarn/npm there weay need to be more careful
20:28 tuxayo        I think so, only dev
20:28 ashimema      So not too horrific consequences
20:28 ashimema      We're still only using node for dev tasks though right...?
20:27 oleonard      There is some potential for breakage when modules are upgraded, but I don't have specific experience to guide me.
20:26 ashimema      I've asked myself that question a few times.. but never come up with a suitable answer
20:26 tuxayo        a manual wikiblame has shown that it's a topic from Joubu ^^
20:26 oleonard      The upgrade process raises the version numbers
20:26 oleonard      yarn.lock contains information about node modules and what versions should be installed
20:26 tuxayo        Does anyone know about this topic?
20:25 tuxayo        Part of the RM process and anytime there is a change we push it? »
20:25 tuxayo        «When do we upgrade our yarn.lock? Right before the release seems a bit hazardous! After seems a bit too late...
20:25 tuxayo        #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...)
20:24 tuxayo        #action amoyano advertise 15522 and ask the list for feedback [after 20.11 is released], setup a sandbox, etc.
20:24 tuxayo        #topic Actions from last meeting
20:24 tuxayo        Thanks for all the news :)
20:23 ashimema      All your tuxayo :)
20:23 ashimema      #info Manual translations - The hosting is currently being upgraded for disk space which should get us back to building.  The. We need to get back to next steps again.
20:22 ashimema      Ooh . Manual translations
20:22 ashimema      The rest I'm not up to speed on.. please chip in of you know anything
20:22 ashimema      #info News - On my list to revisit.. not sure of current state.
20:21 ashimema      #info Git shrinking - Joubu and I will look into this again soon
20:20 ashimema      #info Performance - Moving ES indexing to background jobs.. background job infrastructure work underway to support this move better
20:20 ashimema      #info Money - Likely delayed to next cycle
20:20 ashimema      #info Transfers - Phase one is PQA, awaiting Joubu's review and push
20:19 ashimema      #info Translations.. not moved since last meeting.. needs a retest and getting moving again.  Fresh eyes welcome
20:18 ashimema      #info Notices and Slips improvements slowly starting to move forward.. some foundational bugs need testing/QA . Listed on the pad
20:17 tuxayo        News from projects?
20:16 tuxayo        #link https://annuel.framapad.org/p/koha_21.05_roadmap
20:16 tuxayo        #topic Status of roadmap projects
20:15 ashimema      Personally..
20:15 ashimema      I intend to dig into the task queue bugs this coming month.. I feel like we really need to move a few things forward there for 20.11 to be really usable.
20:15 tuxayo        (failed QA :P (minor QA script issue))
20:15 tuxayo        I'm trying at the oldest ones in queue, found 1 out of 8 that I could review :)
20:15 ashimema      But still plenty to do
20:14 ashimema      Which is great
20:14 ashimema      A few bigger things recently hitting PQA
20:14 ashimema      But the queues are slowly getting worked through by the usual suspects
20:14 ashimema      As ever, QA load needs spreading more...
20:13 thd           #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City
20:13 tuxayo        well done quick QA also ^^
20:12 tuxayo        #topic Updates from the QA team
20:12 ashimema      Well done Rmaints
20:12 tuxayo        #info 2 security fixes and one bad bug that managed to get into this release (all 3 branche). team++
20:11 tuxayo        #topic  Updates from the Release Maintainers
20:11 cait          tuxayo++
20:10 cait          thx tuxayo
20:10 tuxayo        #info apologies from Joubu: (mostly afk this week)
20:10 tuxayo        #topic Update from the Release manager (21.05)
20:09 cait          i don't have anything either
20:09 ashimema      Nada
20:09 tuxayo        anything from anyone?
20:09 tuxayo        Nothing in the meeting wiki page
20:08 tuxayo        #topic Announcements
20:08 ashimema      Good to have you
20:07 ashimema      Hehe
20:07 cait          ooops
20:07 cait          #info Katrin Fischer, Germany
20:07 oleonard      Good one wahanui
20:07 wahanui       somebody said QA was unhappy about that, please fix
20:07 ashimema      QA?
20:07 wahanui       qa_team is cait, dcook, amoyano, ashimema, marcelr, kohaputti, jajm, tcohen, josef_moravec, kidclamp, khall and tuxayo
20:07 tuxayo        qa_team?
20:07 wahanui       Rmaints is fridolin, AndrewFH and tuxayo
20:07 ashimema      Rmaints?
20:07 caroline      its been pretty quiet today on irc
20:07 ashimema      Rmaints
20:06 ashimema      from mobile
20:06 ashimema      #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe
20:06 oleonard      #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA
20:06 tuxayo        #info tuxayo/Victor Grousset, France
20:06 tuxayo        Let's restart ^^"
20:05 tuxayo        #topic Introductions
20:05 huginn        The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_24_february_2021'
20:05 huginn        Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
20:05 huginn        Meeting started Wed Feb 24 20:05:48 2021 UTC.  The chair is tuxayo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
20:05 tuxayo        #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 24 February 2021
20:05 huginn        Log:            https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/development_irc_meeting_13_january_2021.2021-02-24-20.04.log.html
20:05 huginn        Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/development_irc_meeting_13_january_2021.2021-02-24-20.04.txt
20:05 huginn        Minutes:        https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/development_irc_meeting_13_january_2021.2021-02-24-20.04.html
20:05 huginn        Meeting ended Wed Feb 24 20:05:29 2021 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
20:05 tuxayo        #endmeeting
20:05 tuxayo        oleonard++
20:05 oleonard      #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA
20:05 tuxayo        oooops
20:05 ashimema      On mobile
20:04 oleonard-away Is 13 January the last time we had a meeting when someone came?
20:04 ashimema      #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe
20:04 tuxayo        Let's see who is here ^^
20:04 tuxayo        #topic Introductions
20:04 huginn        The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_13_january_2021'
20:04 huginn        Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
20:04 huginn        Meeting started Wed Feb 24 20:04:14 2021 UTC.  The chair is tuxayo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
20:04 tuxayo        #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 13 January 2021
19:56 tuxayo        meeting in 5!
19:54 ashimema      Humm.. not sure I'll be around much for meeting..
19:39 tuxayo        Meeting in 20min!
19:36 ashimema      dcook isn't around yet is he?
19:20 ivandz        Hi. I have Koha version: 19.05.04.000 and ES 6. When I do ./rebuild_elasticsearch.pl I see error - Can't locate Search/Elasticsearch/Client/6_0/Direct.pm . Why?
18:55 cm            bye
18:53 cm            thx! :)
18:38 ashimema      Yup, spot on
18:31 cm            or what do you mean by 'the database update script' specifically?
18:30 cm            followed by 'koha-upgrade-schema library_name' and rebuilding the zebra index?
18:30 cm            so basically a mysql-dump on the old, and import on the new server
18:29 cm            that sounds easy
18:28 cm            hi ashimema
18:27 ashimema      Hope that helps
18:27 ashimema      Probably via command line as it's going to walk through allot of steps.
18:27 ashimema      I'd take a backup of the database, copy it over to your new server and run through the database update script
18:26 ashimema      So, post 3.0 the upgrade is fairly seemless... So your not in bad shape.
18:26 ashimema      Hi cm , welcome to Koha
18:03 tcohen        oleonard-away sorry fr that. But I thought you were the right one he
18:01 cm            what's the best/preferred way to do this?
18:01 cm            my task is to migrate an old install (version 3.10) to a new server (ver. 20.11)
18:00 cm            i'm new to koha, just learned of it yesterday
18:00 cm            hi
17:41 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27775 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Add hint about drag and drop feature on framework subfield edit
17:41 oleonard-away Bug 27775 is an interesting puzzle
16:41 reiveune      bye
12:45 magnuse       ah, yes, thanks!
12:45 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25942 major, P5 - low, ---, nick, RESOLVED FIXED, Batch biblio and borrower operations on report results should not concatenate biblio/cardnumbers into a single string
12:45 oleonard      You just missed it magnuse. Bug 25942 went into 20.05.07.
12:42 oleonard      I recognize the problem, let me see if I can find something...
12:42 magnuse       tested on 20.05.06
12:41 magnuse       can't seem to find a bug for it?
12:41 magnuse       if i run a report and choose "Batch operations with 20 visible records" > "Batch record modification" i get something like "Bibliographic record 451132432873330342041977886788679281050513215160171603516826168262076820817208752240125548 does not exist in the database."
12:40 magnuse       not sure anyone would be happy if i rewrote it
12:29 oleonard      magnuse: Nominations are cursed. The nominator becomes chained to the task.
12:18 * magnuse     nominates overdue_notices.pl for a re-write
12:17 ashimema      hulloooo
12:14 tcohen        morrrrrning
12:10 ashimema      thanks
12:10 ashimema      wow.. so been there a loooong time
12:10 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14189 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, eivin, CLOSED FIXED, Make text persist/populate hidden fields for the Staff searchbox
12:10 oleonard      It's been quite a while since it was added... Bug 14189
12:08 ashimema      happen to remember a bug number for that oleonard.. I fancy seeing how it works
12:07 ashimema      weird
12:07 ashimema      I've got a few reports of people coming back days later and the text still being there at their next login
12:07 oleonard      No, just to keep terms in the input box as you switch tabs
12:06 ashimema      on the staff client that is.
12:06 ashimema      did we add some code recently to keep searches in the input box for longer?
11:41 magnuse       kia ora oleonard
11:41 oleonard      Hi #koha
10:40 cait1         ashimema: i am not aware of someone- maybe the US crowd knows?
10:37 tuxayo        hi #koha o/
09:46 jsicot        Thanks ashimema
09:45 ashimema      I don't think it would be an issue.. should apply and work fine
09:44 jsicot        Do you think there might be side effects from applying the latest security patch (bug) on koha 18.11.x? The different commits seem to apply without conflicts. Thanks
09:39 ashimema      anyone using worldcat discovery with koha?
09:32 jsicot        Hi #koha
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09:15 wahanui       Congratulations!
09:15 koha-jenkins  Yippee, build fixed!
08:33 cait1         good morning #koha!
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08:00 cait1         good morning #koha!
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07:23 alex_a        Bonjour
07:23 magnuse       \o/
07:12 reiveune      hello
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