Time Nick Message 22:20 dcook Yeah I'll just respond on the bug. I can probably track down some good links 22:19 dcook Sorry to miss ashimema 22:19 dcook Oops I was on the phone 22:19 caroline In french we say something/someone "has a large back" when we blame everything on this/them... Autocorrect has a large back :P 22:18 caroline I still have to email bernardo avec the duplicates... I started last wekk and then forgot 22:17 ashimema Mobile autocorrect 22:17 wahanui i think er is as you said c 22:17 ashimema Er... 22:17 caroline oh cool! thanks! 22:17 caroline ashimema are you using the royal we? lol 22:17 ashimema Liz is adding space to the server btw.. to get the build running again 22:16 ashimema We... Pass 22:15 caroline in acquisitions, the label is acquisitions-label and in faq the label is faq-acquisitions-label 22:15 caroline For example, I'm getting /inlibro/git/koha-manual/source/acquisitions.rst:6: WARNING: duplicate label acquisitions, other instance in /inlibro/git/koha-manual/source/faq.rst 22:13 caroline I can't figure out what it wants... I go to the line and the labels are different (they contain the same words but they are different e.g. something-label and something-else-label cause warnings) 22:12 caroline anyone familiar with sphix know how to resolve "duplicate label" warnings? 22:12 ashimema Have a good day dcook 22:12 ashimema Anywho.. it's bed time for me.. 22:11 ashimema Found a few more issues with our workers today.. like if a job fails it's kills the worker entirely.. one tak failing should block all other tasks in my opinion. 22:10 ashimema But I asked on the bug instead 22:10 ashimema Was going to ask about the memory leak you found in back ground workers 22:03 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded. 22:03 dcook @later tell ashimema I was definitely still sleeping when you invoked my name heh 20:59 davidnind catch you all later.. 20:58 davidnind which means I should probably go to work now... 20:58 tuxayo davidnind: nice! 20:57 davidnind i was about to go to work, then had a quick look at the log, saw that there was a meeting then my item... pure luck I looked! 20:56 tuxayo and even knew the messages before you joined the channel? 20:56 tuxayo davidnind: by what kind of super power did you knew we were talking about your stuff 20:55 tuxayo yw ^^ 20:55 davidnind You are a seasoned pro now! Thanks for chairing. 20:54 tuxayo This wiki page is great :) https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Chairing_meetings 20:53 tuxayo davidnind: second time 20:53 ashimema Thanks for hosting tuxayo 20:53 ashimema Sorry, got distracted 20:53 davidnind Is that your first time chairing a meeting? ran very smoothly looking through the logs! 20:51 tuxayo thanks for attending :) 20:51 davidnind tuxayo++ 20:51 oleonard tuxayo++ 20:51 huginn Log: https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/development_irc_meeting_24_february_2021.2021-02-24-20.05.log.html 20:51 huginn Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/development_irc_meeting_24_february_2021.2021-02-24-20.05.txt 20:51 huginn Minutes: https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/development_irc_meeting_24_february_2021.2021-02-24-20.05.html 20:51 huginn Meeting ended Wed Feb 24 20:51:18 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 20:51 tuxayo #endmeeting 20:51 tuxayo #info Next meeting: 10 March 2021, 15:00 UTC 20:51 tuxayo Yes, no collision 20:50 davidnind +1 20:50 oleonard 10 March? 20:49 davidnind +1 20:49 tuxayo This was the late one so next one will should be 15:00 UTC 20:48 tuxayo #topic Set time of next meeting 20:47 huginn yes (4): oleonard, tuxayo, thd, davidnind 20:47 huginn Voted on "Ok for using OPAC instead of Opac or opac?" Results are 20:47 tuxayo #endvote 20:46 tuxayo Closing in 1min. cc cait ashimema caroline 20:45 thd #vote yes 20:45 davidnind #vote yes 20:45 tuxayo sorry for the delay 20:45 oleonard #vote yes 20:45 tuxayo #vote yes 20:44 tuxayo finally found the syntax! 20:44 huginn Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 20:44 huginn Begin voting on: Ok for using OPAC instead of Opac or opac? Valid vote options are , no, yes, abstain, . 20:44 tuxayo #startvote Ok for using OPAC instead of Opac or opac? (no, yes, abstain) 20:43 oleonard +1 20:43 davidnind +1 20:42 thd +1 20:42 tuxayo lol oleonard 20:42 tuxayo Shall we call a vote? We are around 7 people I think 20:42 oleonard Agreed. It's official. Motion passes. Unanimous. 20:41 tuxayo *it's 20:40 tuxayo ok, it clear now :) 20:40 davidnind hi tuxayo! 20:40 davidnind I'm not sure what I meant either? Just meant to use OPAC instead of Opac or opac in things like system preferences. 20:39 tuxayo hi davidnind :) 20:39 oleonard There he is 20:39 oleonard Nor do I. 20:38 tuxayo That makes sense with «use OPAC instead of opac» but I don't get the rest 20:38 oleonard I think this is specifically about using capitalized "OPAC" in system preferences 20:36 tuxayo Confused about: «or OPAC for online public access catalog» 20:35 tuxayo Are we enough people to review coding guidelines? 20:35 tuxayo including in system preference names. (davidnind) » 20:35 tuxayo «Terminology list - proposed addition for OPAC: use OPAC instead of opac or OPAC for online public access catalog, 20:35 tuxayo #topic Review of coding guidelines 20:33 oleonard I think it means the RM should have lots of leeway for doing the upgrade. 20:33 oleonard I think ashimema's point about node only being for dev tasks is a good one 20:32 ashimema Mmm 20:31 thd Common frameworks should make things more robust, not more brittle :) 20:31 ashimema I'm not the best to advise.. it's been on my list for years to get myself up to date in that scene 20:30 ashimema Indeed 20:30 ashimema Mmm 20:30 tuxayo Because yarn/npm will then be used for installation and update of Koha right? 20:30 ashimema [off] I regularly get warned about old node dependencies we use 20:29 ashimema If/when we move to front end framework if we use yarn/npm there weay need to be more careful 20:28 tuxayo I think so, only dev 20:28 ashimema So not too horrific consequences 20:28 ashimema We're still only using node for dev tasks though right...? 20:27 oleonard There is some potential for breakage when modules are upgraded, but I don't have specific experience to guide me. 20:26 ashimema I've asked myself that question a few times.. but never come up with a suitable answer 20:26 tuxayo a manual wikiblame has shown that it's a topic from Joubu ^^ 20:26 oleonard The upgrade process raises the version numbers 20:26 oleonard yarn.lock contains information about node modules and what versions should be installed 20:26 tuxayo Does anyone know about this topic? 20:25 tuxayo Part of the RM process and anytime there is a change we push it? » 20:25 tuxayo «When do we upgrade our yarn.lock? Right before the release seems a bit hazardous! After seems a bit too late... 20:25 tuxayo #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) 20:24 tuxayo #action amoyano advertise 15522 and ask the list for feedback [after 20.11 is released], setup a sandbox, etc. 20:24 tuxayo #topic Actions from last meeting 20:24 tuxayo Thanks for all the news :) 20:23 ashimema All your tuxayo :) 20:23 ashimema #info Manual translations - The hosting is currently being upgraded for disk space which should get us back to building. The. We need to get back to next steps again. 20:22 ashimema Ooh . Manual translations 20:22 ashimema The rest I'm not up to speed on.. please chip in of you know anything 20:22 ashimema #info News - On my list to revisit.. not sure of current state. 20:21 ashimema #info Git shrinking - Joubu and I will look into this again soon 20:20 ashimema #info Performance - Moving ES indexing to background jobs.. background job infrastructure work underway to support this move better 20:20 ashimema #info Money - Likely delayed to next cycle 20:20 ashimema #info Transfers - Phase one is PQA, awaiting Joubu's review and push 20:19 ashimema #info Translations.. not moved since last meeting.. needs a retest and getting moving again. Fresh eyes welcome 20:18 ashimema #info Notices and Slips improvements slowly starting to move forward.. some foundational bugs need testing/QA . Listed on the pad 20:17 tuxayo News from projects? 20:16 tuxayo #link https://annuel.framapad.org/p/koha_21.05_roadmap 20:16 tuxayo #topic Status of roadmap projects 20:15 ashimema Personally.. 20:15 ashimema I intend to dig into the task queue bugs this coming month.. I feel like we really need to move a few things forward there for 20.11 to be really usable. 20:15 tuxayo (failed QA :P (minor QA script issue)) 20:15 tuxayo I'm trying at the oldest ones in queue, found 1 out of 8 that I could review :) 20:15 ashimema But still plenty to do 20:14 ashimema Which is great 20:14 ashimema A few bigger things recently hitting PQA 20:14 ashimema But the queues are slowly getting worked through by the usual suspects 20:14 ashimema As ever, QA load needs spreading more... 20:13 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City 20:13 tuxayo well done quick QA also ^^ 20:12 tuxayo #topic Updates from the QA team 20:12 ashimema Well done Rmaints 20:12 tuxayo #info 2 security fixes and one bad bug that managed to get into this release (all 3 branche). team++ 20:11 tuxayo #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers 20:11 cait tuxayo++ 20:10 cait thx tuxayo 20:10 tuxayo #info apologies from Joubu: (mostly afk this week) 20:10 tuxayo #topic Update from the Release manager (21.05) 20:09 cait i don't have anything either 20:09 ashimema Nada 20:09 tuxayo anything from anyone? 20:09 tuxayo Nothing in the meeting wiki page 20:08 tuxayo #topic Announcements 20:08 ashimema Good to have you 20:07 ashimema Hehe 20:07 cait ooops 20:07 cait #info Katrin Fischer, Germany 20:07 oleonard Good one wahanui 20:07 wahanui somebody said QA was unhappy about that, please fix 20:07 ashimema QA? 20:07 wahanui qa_team is cait, dcook, amoyano, ashimema, marcelr, kohaputti, jajm, tcohen, josef_moravec, kidclamp, khall and tuxayo 20:07 tuxayo qa_team? 20:07 wahanui Rmaints is fridolin, AndrewFH and tuxayo 20:07 ashimema Rmaints? 20:07 caroline its been pretty quiet today on irc 20:07 ashimema Rmaints 20:06 ashimema from mobile 20:06 ashimema #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe 20:06 oleonard #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA 20:06 tuxayo #info tuxayo/Victor Grousset, France 20:06 tuxayo Let's restart ^^" 20:05 tuxayo #topic Introductions 20:05 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_24_february_2021' 20:05 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 20:05 huginn Meeting started Wed Feb 24 20:05:48 2021 UTC. 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(v 0.1.4) 20:05 tuxayo #endmeeting 20:05 tuxayo oleonard++ 20:05 oleonard #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA 20:05 tuxayo oooops 20:05 ashimema On mobile 20:04 oleonard-away Is 13 January the last time we had a meeting when someone came? 20:04 ashimema #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe 20:04 tuxayo Let's see who is here ^^ 20:04 tuxayo #topic Introductions 20:04 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_13_january_2021' 20:04 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 20:04 huginn Meeting started Wed Feb 24 20:04:14 2021 UTC. The chair is tuxayo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:04 tuxayo #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 13 January 2021 19:56 tuxayo meeting in 5! 19:54 ashimema Humm.. not sure I'll be around much for meeting.. 19:39 tuxayo Meeting in 20min! 19:36 ashimema dcook isn't around yet is he? 19:20 ivandz Hi. I have Koha version: 19.05.04.000 and ES 6. When I do ./rebuild_elasticsearch.pl I see error - Can't locate Search/Elasticsearch/Client/6_0/Direct.pm . Why? 18:55 cm bye 18:53 cm thx! :) 18:38 ashimema Yup, spot on 18:31 cm or what do you mean by 'the database update script' specifically? 18:30 cm followed by 'koha-upgrade-schema library_name' and rebuilding the zebra index? 18:30 cm so basically a mysql-dump on the old, and import on the new server 18:29 cm that sounds easy 18:28 cm hi ashimema 18:27 ashimema Hope that helps 18:27 ashimema Probably via command line as it's going to walk through allot of steps. 18:27 ashimema I'd take a backup of the database, copy it over to your new server and run through the database update script 18:26 ashimema So, post 3.0 the upgrade is fairly seemless... So your not in bad shape. 18:26 ashimema Hi cm , welcome to Koha 18:03 tcohen oleonard-away sorry fr that. But I thought you were the right one he 18:01 cm what's the best/preferred way to do this? 18:01 cm my task is to migrate an old install (version 3.10) to a new server (ver. 20.11) 18:00 cm i'm new to koha, just learned of it yesterday 18:00 cm hi 17:41 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27775 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Add hint about drag and drop feature on framework subfield edit 17:41 oleonard-away Bug 27775 is an interesting puzzle 16:41 reiveune bye 12:45 magnuse ah, yes, thanks! 12:45 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25942 major, P5 - low, ---, nick, RESOLVED FIXED, Batch biblio and borrower operations on report results should not concatenate biblio/cardnumbers into a single string 12:45 oleonard You just missed it magnuse. Bug 25942 went into 20.05.07. 12:42 oleonard I recognize the problem, let me see if I can find something... 12:42 magnuse tested on 20.05.06 12:41 magnuse can't seem to find a bug for it? 12:41 magnuse if i run a report and choose "Batch operations with 20 visible records" > "Batch record modification" i get something like "Bibliographic record 451132432873330342041977886788679281050513215160171603516826168262076820817208752240125548 does not exist in the database." 12:40 magnuse not sure anyone would be happy if i rewrote it 12:29 oleonard magnuse: Nominations are cursed. The nominator becomes chained to the task. 12:18 * magnuse nominates overdue_notices.pl for a re-write 12:17 ashimema hulloooo 12:14 tcohen morrrrrning 12:10 ashimema thanks 12:10 ashimema wow.. so been there a loooong time 12:10 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14189 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, eivin, CLOSED FIXED, Make text persist/populate hidden fields for the Staff searchbox 12:10 oleonard It's been quite a while since it was added... Bug 14189 12:08 ashimema happen to remember a bug number for that oleonard.. I fancy seeing how it works 12:07 ashimema weird 12:07 ashimema I've got a few reports of people coming back days later and the text still being there at their next login 12:07 oleonard No, just to keep terms in the input box as you switch tabs 12:06 ashimema on the staff client that is. 12:06 ashimema did we add some code recently to keep searches in the input box for longer? 11:41 magnuse kia ora oleonard 11:41 oleonard Hi #koha 10:40 cait1 ashimema: i am not aware of someone- maybe the US crowd knows? 10:37 tuxayo hi #koha o/ 09:46 jsicot Thanks ashimema 09:45 ashimema I don't think it would be an issue.. should apply and work fine 09:44 jsicot Do you think there might be side effects from applying the latest security patch (bug) on koha 18.11.x? The different commits seem to apply without conflicts. Thanks 09:39 ashimema anyone using worldcat discovery with koha? 09:32 jsicot Hi #koha 09:15 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D9 build #65: FIXED in 51 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_D9/65/ 09:15 wahanui Congratulations! 09:15 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 08:33 cait1 good morning #koha! 08:23 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_U16 build #48: SUCCESS in 1 hr 2 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_U16/48/ 08:22 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_U20 build #47: SUCCESS in 59 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_U20/47/ 08:21 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_U18 build #43: SUCCESS in 57 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_U18/43/ 08:19 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D9 build #64: STILL FAILING in 0.2 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_D9/64/ 08:14 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D9 build #63: STILL FAILING in 0.17 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_D9/63/ 08:09 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_U2010 build #44: UNSTABLE in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_U2010/44/ 08:09 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D9 build #62: STILL FAILING in 0.23 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_D9/62/ 08:04 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D9 build #61: STILL FAILING in 0.18 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_D9/61/ 08:00 cait1 good morning #koha! 07:59 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D9 build #60: STILL FAILING in 0.18 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_D9/60/ 07:54 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D9 build #59: STILL FAILING in 0.19 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_D9/59/ 07:49 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D9 build #58: STILL FAILING in 0.28 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_D9/58/ 07:44 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D9 build #57: STILL FAILING in 0.22 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_D9/57/ 07:39 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D9 build #56: STILL FAILING in 0.15 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_D9/56/ 07:34 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D9 build #55: STILL FAILING in 0.18 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_D9/55/ 07:29 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D9 build #54: FAILURE in 0.2 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_D9/54/ 07:29 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D10 build #63: FAILURE in 6 min 4 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_D10/63/ 07:23 alex_a Bonjour 07:23 magnuse \o/ 07:12 reiveune hello 04:01 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D10 build #62: UNSTABLE in 57 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_D10/62/ 03:48 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D10 build #141: UNSTABLE in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D10/141/ 03:44 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #240: SUCCESS in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D10/240/ 01:51 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D10 build #140: SUCCESS in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D10/140/ 01:43 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #515: SUCCESS in 1 hr 2 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/515/ 00:41 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1570: SUCCESS in 1 hr 3 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1570/