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05:05 Irfan         hello i hope eveone is doing well
05:06 Irfan         can some body tell me that when i impor record add items are getting missed accession number and all details
07:07 ashimema      Morning #koha
07:07 ashimema      Sorry Irfan, I don't know that area of koha well
07:19 reiveune      hello
07:19 ere           hi #koha
07:20 ere           So, if I have a Koha database with a lot of biblios, is there a nice existing script to generate items for testing?
07:25 ashimema      dcook++
07:26 ashimema      Er... Not one that I know if I'm afraid ere
07:26 ere           ashimema: Well, I was hoping I wouldn't have to create one, but here we go..
07:35 magnuse       \o/
07:36 magnuse       ere: sounds like a fun little project ;-)
07:38 ere           magnuse: It is, actually, but I would still have wanted to avoid it :D
07:50 alex_a        Bonjour
07:50 wahanui       salut, alex_a
07:57 ashimema      the only place there 'might' be something would be in 'misc4dev'
07:57 ashimema      https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-misc4dev
07:58 cait          hm?
07:58 ashimema      if you do create one.. perhaps submit it to that repo?
07:58 ashimema      was talking to ere cait
07:58 ashimema      :)
07:59 ashimema      he wants a script to generate test items to go with his same set of bibs
07:59 ere           ashimema: I'll do if I come up with something not too messed up :)
08:00 ashimema      ere.. you might want to use t/lib/TestBuilder.pm in the main repo?
08:00 ashimema      it has 'build_sample_item' which I imagine could be useful?
08:00 ashimema      just some food for thought
08:00 ere           ashimema: true, that's a good point
08:01 ashimema      depending on the sorts of numbers you're talking about it may not meet performance requirements
08:01 ashimema      but thought it worth mentioning in case you hand't thought of it.
08:02 * ashimema    is in training all day again today :(
08:02 ere           ashimema: I might need to go bare SQL for now, though build_sample_item would be neater
08:03 ashimema      yeah, it's a nice little function.. but I can see it getting a bit painful if found inside a big loop
08:04 ere           now running a rough version, adds a couple thousand of items per second.
08:04 ashimema      nice
08:05 cait          i think the scripts currently just laod some sample data but don't generate them?
08:05 cait          hm sorry for the bad English
08:06 ashimema      yeah.. having just taken a quick look I think you're right cait
08:06 ashimema      but.. it would be nice to have a random data generator in that repo too :)
08:07 cait          yes and no - i thin good for testing when you need a ton of items
08:07 ere           300 000 items added...
08:07 ashimema      wow.. impressive
08:07 cait          but also good to have a set with some specific characteristics that looks like real ones (callnumbers, copynumbers, all that)
08:08 ere           indeed.. at this point I just want to spread out items with diverse timestamps for testing OAI-PMH performance improvement attempts
08:09 ere           well, I also added prefixed barcodes so that I can get rid of them as well
08:09 cait          great to see that btw :)
08:10 cait          work on improving our oai, we use it with quite a few of libraries
08:10 ere           one of the things I've wanted to work on since forever
08:10 cait          and always nice to see you around :)
08:10 ashimema      nice one ere
08:10 ashimema      ere++
08:10 ere           not forever, since last time :)
08:10 ere           cait: you too
08:11 ere           thanks ashimema
08:11 ashimema      I'd be interested in you opinion on my approach to the db update in bug 26734 ;)
08:11 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26734 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Convert accounts (monetary) notices to use GetPreparedLetter
08:11 ashimema      that was for cait
08:11 ashimema      you back for a bit ere.. or is this a fleeting visit?
08:11 ashimema      it's great having you around
08:12 cait          hm what was?
08:12 ashimema      cait: I'd be interested in you opinion on my approach to the db update in bug 26734 ;)
08:13 ere           ashimema: I've been lurking in the background... My intent is to slowly proceed with the stuff on my board, but as usual, I'm swamped (isn't everyone?). And when I'm too busy I suck with communication..
08:13 ashimema      as in.. I gave up trying to update peoples notices in place.. it turned out too difficult to get right and likely to just lead to broken notices for people upgradeing..
08:13 ashimema      so.. instead I went for a 'Just replace the notice entirely with the default.. and backup the original to action_logs'
08:14 ashimema      yeah, know the feeling well ere
08:14 ashimema      it's nice to see you around anyways :)
08:14 ashimema      keep in touch.. even if you don't have time to do get to coding stuff.. we like to know people are still alive and well ;)
08:16 ashimema      matts around?
08:16 ere           ashimema: :)
08:17 cait          what ashimema said :)
08:18 ashimema      @later tell matts I remember why I reworked bug 24381 into parts now.. it's because when I was trying to update the notice we found that it was very difficult to write one notice that accounted for all situations.. we have so many different credit/debit types that you'd need loads of conditionals in the templates to in effect create different notices within the template for each type
08:18 huginn        ashimema: The operation succeeded.
08:18 ashimema      things like a 'payout' should not match any other 'debit' type receipts.
08:18 ashimema      and a 'credit note' doesn't really match a 'payment' receipt
08:19 ashimema      @later tell matts things like a 'payout' should not match any other 'debit' type receipts.
08:19 ashimema      and a 'credit note' doesn't really match a 'payment' receipt
08:19 huginn        ashimema: The operation succeeded.
08:19 ashimema      @later tell matts and a 'credit note' doesn't really match a 'payment' receipt
08:19 huginn        ashimema: The operation succeeded.
08:25 cait          your approach sounds ok, but we'll need a big warning in the release notes
08:25 cait          to make people aware
08:25 ashimema      :)
08:26 cait          it's easier for those that are already using the new installer
08:26 ashimema      I was hoping that's the answer you would give me :)
08:26 cait          but for a lot of languages we won't be able to provide translated notices
08:26 cait          so that's why we need a big note
08:26 ashimema      yeah
08:26 ashimema      translations was the challenge I was seeing
08:26 ashimema      I'd love to see the yaml install part of the installer made so it could be used to pick and choose certain rows
08:26 cait          i think some inconvenience on update is ok if the merit is there :)
08:27 ashimema      then we could install defaults for translated notices too
08:27 cait          we do install defaults for translated notices
08:27 ashimema      so.... on the merit front..
08:27 ashimema      we do 'install'.. but we don't "upgrade"
08:27 cait          you can't
08:27 cait          these are customizable parts
08:27 ashimema      in my upgrade I end up replacing any of the installed translated notices with the default english
08:28 cait          right ok
08:28 cait          so for new ones
08:28 cait          that's true
08:28 ashimema      for the new installer you mean?
08:28 cait          new notices i mean
08:28 ashimema      indeed
08:28 cait          not ones we update... but new notices on update :)
08:28 cait          there was the confusion on my side
08:28 ashimema      hum...
08:28 ashimema      interesting.. do we?
08:29 ashimema      how do we do that?
08:29 ashimema      so my understanding is..
08:29 ashimema      for fresh installs we can insert the default notices (including translations)
08:29 ashimema      for upgrades we always install the english notice for a new notice
08:30 ashimema      I don't see code here to install a translated notice at upgrade
08:30 * ashimema    really hopes he's just missing something.. would be great if he is.
08:38 Joubu         correct ashimema, notice templates are not translated when added during an upgrade
08:38 ashimema      phew
08:38 ashimema      not going mad
08:38 ashimema      but.. it would certainly be a nice addition :)
08:39 ashimema      I'm thinking it would be good to split 'process_yml_table' to add a 'process_yml_row'
08:39 ashimema      in C4::Installer
08:39 ashimema      that way we could refer to individual rows in updatedatabase using the C4::Installer method?
08:39 ashimema      thoguhts?
08:40 ashimema      that would also get me out the the current hole I'm in :P
08:40 ashimema      and mean that for upgrades instead of having to maintain an SQL statement in an atomic update and the yaml version in the installer templates.. we could just refer to the installer version from the update script.
08:43 ashimema      lol
08:43 cait          ashimema: that is waht I was trying to say
08:43 ashimema      seems I'be been round this loop before..
08:43 ashimema      it's where bug 24712 was coming from
08:43 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24712 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Use YAML files for some of the update data
08:43 Joubu         yes, I guess that could be done. But... we have 2 ways to deal with translated SQL data
08:43 Joubu         that means you will have to handle both during the upgrade process
08:44 Joubu         dealing with yml seems quite easy
08:44 Joubu         Parsing the .sql will becoming a mess easily
08:44 cait          i wonder if we should just start standardizing the others and moving them over... a lot of the special stuff could go into custom.sql now
08:44 Joubu         yes
08:44 Joubu         but... who?
08:44 wahanui       but are you getting images on my search results page which are added by Coce?
08:44 ashimema      perhaps we do it for just notices to start.. rather than being too generic
08:44 cait          true
08:45 cait          if i could clone myself... i would like to do it :( just so hard to promise anything
08:45 ashimema      I do want to do away with .sql entirely as soon as we can
08:45 ashimema      I'm not sure the people involved really understand the move :(
08:45 cait          i think they would like it
08:45 cait          it's just they don't have maintainers anymore
08:45 cait          the problematic ones
08:45 Joubu         installer/data/mysql/fr-FR/1-Obligatoire/sample_notices.sql
08:45 cait          we keep them working, but noone actively takes care
08:46 ashimema      fridolin around?
08:46 cait          hm for fr-FR we may be able to twist an arm or two :)
08:46 ashimema      we should approach biblibre to do the fr-FR ones and inlibro to do the fr-CA ones.
08:46 ashimema      that would be a good start
08:47 fridolin      ashimema: yep
08:47 ashimema      John Fawcett appears to maintain the it-IT ones.. perhaps an email to him for those
08:48 fridolin      oh i m not aware of this
08:48 Joubu         it has been advertised on the list and the release notes
08:49 fridolin      oki i'll fw the list
08:49 magnuse       i'll do the norwegian ones, if you tell me what to do :-)
08:50 fridolin      i dont find in list, what is the mail subject please ?
08:52 ashimema      https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/showdependencygraph.cgi?id=24973
08:52 ashimema      I made a tree
08:52 cait          magnuse: you can copy from the german bug
08:52 cait          but i had help from Jonathan...
08:52 cait          but it didn't look too bad? :)
08:53 cait          fridolin: i'd look for installer - it's been a while ago, last release cycle at least
08:54 cait          ashimema: as you are on it already - coudl you add one for magnuse?
08:54 ashimema      done
08:54 ashimema      bug 27622
08:54 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27622 minor, P5 - low, ---, magnus, NEW , Remove nb-NO installer data
08:55 fridolin      ah oki
08:56 ashimema      I need to head into my training now
08:56 ashimema      still need to add bugs for pl-PL  ru-RU  uk-UA
08:56 Joubu         ashimema: I will open them
08:57 cait          i could maybe try to do ru-RU... just don't wnat to promise
08:57 cait          i can at least read it
08:57 cait          it might help a little
08:58 ashimema      thanks Joubu
08:58 ashimema      thanks cait
08:58 ashimema      be so nice to get this finished up
08:58 cait          true
08:58 cait          our started-unfinished ones are heavy load on our shoulders...
08:58 cait          always good to finish things
09:00 Joubu         I will send some emails asking for help
09:00 Joubu         (that was more a thing for next release cycle, but earlier the better)
09:02 magnuse       cait: if you have done this for the german files, do you have the bug number where you did it?
09:03 cait          it's in the tree
09:04 cait          bug 24972
09:04 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24972 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to master , Remove de-DE installer data
09:04 cait          it works well afakt
09:04 cait          i just tested it again yesterday for some local changes to custom.sql
09:04 ashimema      :)
09:04 ashimema      have a good day #koha
09:04 cait          we haven't done an installation with it yet, but no problems spotted in various tests so far
09:05 cait          good luck with your trainign :)
09:09 Joubu         magnuse: Did you see that I attached a patch on bug 18984? Any chances to get a SO from you? :)
09:09 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18984 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Remove support for NORMARC
09:13 magnuse       Joubu: thanks, but it's a bit early yet. we have not had the time to convert our normarc sites to marc 21 yet
09:16 Joubu         as the bug report has been opened more than 3y ago I thought it was just waiting for a patch
09:28 magnuse       yeah, the conversion is long overdue...
09:31 Joubu         magnuse: removing the installer data will prevent new install to use it. How could it be bad for existing sites? (the DB will be migrated anyway)
09:31 Joubu         ha, the zebra config files..
09:31 magnuse       yup
09:32 magnuse       i could sign off if it only affected new sites
09:48 matts         Hey ashimema, thanks for the precision :)
09:48 ashimema      :)
09:48 ashimema      I'm happy to jump back on that area btw..
09:48 ashimema      would love to see it progress
09:49 matts         Yeah, I'm also glad that Bug 18506 started moving again
09:49 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18506 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Passed QA , SSO - Shibboleth Only Mode
09:54 ashimema      just needed the right poke :@)
09:54 ashimema      thanks :)
10:01 cait          ashimema: Joubu: was wondering: Remove is not good, maybe better Move the isntaller data? souns less scary in release notes :)
10:01 ashimema      I agree..
10:01 ashimema      deffo be better to rephrase that..
10:01 ashimema      I just cloned the existing bugs ;)
10:02 Joubu         they will get removed
10:02 Joubu         not moved
10:03 Joubu         the yml are built from the PO's and not part of git but generated by the translate script
10:04 cait          i think it's a little misleading, maybe Switch ?
10:04 Joubu         I was comparing the it-IT MARC21 framework structure with 'en', and they are totally different
10:04 cait          only different sql or different tags/fields structure?
10:04 Joubu         only 3 frameworks
10:04 Joubu         and the default "" is different
10:05 cait          they do already have a translation project
10:05 cait          https://translate.koha-community.org/files/it/
10:05 Joubu         I will contact Zeno and John Fawcett to ask them how they are using them
10:05 Joubu         I think they only use UNIMARC
10:05 cait          https://translate.koha-community.org/it/marc21/
10:05 cait          and its done
10:06 cait          i think it depends, Italy kind of uses both is what Zeno told me
10:06 cait          hm ok
10:06 cait          zeno transalted the marc21 files it seems
10:06 cait          on pootle
10:07 cait          it's a lot of work, so i think they use it
10:10 cait          Joubu: maybe that#s a blocker: moving the UNIMARC sql files to Pootle
10:10 cait          they are not there yet and it's too much work to loose
10:10 cait          https://translate.koha-community.org/fr/
10:15 Joubu         I thought Bernardo managed to retrieve most of them from the existing .sql files
10:16 cait          there are no fiels for unimarc i can see
10:22 ashimema      coffee break in training.
10:22 ashimema      looks like i have some chat to catch up on.
10:25 ashimema      interestingly enough.. it's the frameworks script that I thought I identified a bug in the other day Joubu
10:25 cait          Joubu: it looks like Bernardo did MARC21 and all the other installer files, not the UNIMARC ones
10:25 cait          to clarify
10:26 cait          there is a hole, afaiks
10:26 ashimema      where i said I think they getting pulled out of pootle.. a bunch fo stuff done.. but never getting put back into pootle
10:26 cait          ?
10:26 ashimema      should we email bernardo
10:26 cait          i think we should be asking for UNIMARC yes
10:26 cait          i wonder if the unimarc en and fr-fr files differ also
10:26 cait          i am afraid they might
10:26 Joubu         ashimema: no, I think it's how it works. Sanitizing is done in one way only
10:27 cait          i am not sure if the english ones are fit for a template
10:27 ashimema      okies
10:27 ashimema      the english unimarc you mean cait?
10:27 * ashimema    wonders if there even are english unimarc templates
10:27 Joubu         there are
10:27 cait          yes there are
10:27 cait          but i think at least some of the mappings are different
10:28 cait          last time i checked a lot of the mappings we have as default were not in unimarc
10:28 cait          in items etc.
10:28 cait          which is not a blocker, but if english and fr-fr are not the same... we might want to do some clean-up there
10:31 ashimema      do any of the english speaking world actually use UNIMARC?
10:34 cait          i think only france, italy and maybeeee spain
10:34 cait          ?
10:36 Joubu         uk provided some unimarc files as well
10:36 ashimema      as in russia or england?
10:36 Joubu         sorry, I meant Ukrainian, not UK
10:36 Joubu         :)
10:36 ashimema      :)
11:12 oleonard      o/
12:31 ivandz        Hello! What's the difference in file mapping.yaml between sort: ~ and sort:1 ? Thanks!
12:43 oleonard      After holds, OpacHiddenItems must be the most buggy feature we have
12:45 oleonard      Is anyone aware of an existing bug about categorycode in PatronSelfRegistrationBorrowerUnwantedField breaking self-registration?
12:46 ivandz        @seen kidclamp
12:46 huginn        ivandz: kidclamp was last seen in #koha 2 days, 0 hours, 8 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <kidclamp> Yup
12:46 ivandz        @seen ivandz
12:47 huginn        ivandz: ivandz was last seen in #koha 31 seconds ago: <ivandz> @seen kidclamp
12:47 oleonard      Thumbs up to whoever programmed huginn not the put themselves into a neverending loop
12:54 oleonard      What is the self-registration form supposed to do if categorycode is hidden and there is no default defined?
12:54 oleonard      Dealer's choice?
12:56 ashimema      @seen jcamins
12:56 huginn        ashimema: jcamins was last seen in #koha 2 years, 36 weeks, 0 days, 14 hours, 6 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <jcamins> cait: probably 561.
12:57 oleonard      (;﹏;)
12:58 * ashimema    wonders what the longest @seen is in our database
12:58 tuxayo        hi #koha o/
12:58 tuxayo        About removing lang-LANG installer data, it's about removing the directory,
12:58 tuxayo        removing a reference to a file in xt/ and checking in the translation platform that the installer string are translated. Is that all?
12:59 ashimema      pretty much
12:59 ashimema      you may also want to transplant the existing translation into pootle?
12:59 tcohen        <morning
13:01 oleonard      Hi tcohen
13:02 tuxayo        ashimema: that is copying it from the to be removed files to pootle?
13:02 tcohen        @seen tcohen
13:02 huginn        tcohen: tcohen was last seen in #koha 2 minutes and 55 seconds ago: <tcohen> <morning
13:02 tcohen        @seen tcohen
13:02 huginn        tcohen: tcohen was last seen in #koha 5 seconds ago: <tcohen> @seen tcohen
13:15 kidclamp      ivandz: hi
13:15 oleonard      So, self-registration: If you hide patron category and don't have a default defined in  PatronSelfRegistrationDefaultCategory then the form submission will fail.
13:15 kidclamp      @seen WNickC
13:15 huginn        kidclamp: I have not seen WNickC.
13:15 kidclamp      @seen wnickc
13:15 huginn        kidclamp: I have not seen wnickc.
13:16 oleonard      @seen wnickey
13:16 huginn        oleonard: I have not seen wnickey.
13:16 Joubu         ivandz: IIRC sort=1 means sortable, sort=0 means not sortable, sort=undef (~ in yml) means use the default
13:18 kidclamp      which is sortable
13:19 kidclamp      bug 27316
13:19 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27316 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Signed Off , In mappings use yes/no for sortable
13:27 oleonard      Hm.... So what did Bug 27148 fix?
13:27 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27148 critical, P5 - low, ---, agustinmoyano, Pushed to stable , Internal Server Error during self registration 20.11
13:32 Joubu         oleonard: what's the question exactly?
13:33 oleonard      Joubu: there is still a bug, I'm still trying to understand it. I think it happens when both categorycode AND password are hidden in patron self-registration.
13:33 Joubu         without this patch, if the categorycode is hidden from the self reg form (PatronSelfRegistrationBorrowerUnwantedField), then it explodes because we didn't pass the patron category
13:34 oleonard      I thought the problem was just with categorycode until I saw that there was already a patch to fix...something.
13:35 oleonard      Does the server-side pick the default category if none is passed by the form?
13:36 Joubu         yes
13:36 oleonard      What does it do if no default is defined?
13:37 Joubu         I put categorycode and password in PatronSelfRegistrationBorrowerUnwantedField and the self reg succeed
13:37 Joubu         it should not work
13:37 Joubu         it default is mandatory
13:37 Joubu         *I think*
13:38 oleonard      How can it be mandatory? We don't have any way of enforcing that except by disabling self-registration
13:38 Joubu         207                                         [% IF PatronSelfRegistration && PatronSelfRegistrationDefaultCategory %]
13:38 Joubu         opac-main.tt
13:38 Joubu         "Register here" link is not display
13:39 Joubu         BUT it's not enforced in the controller
13:39 oleonard      Aha... but the page still works!
13:39 Joubu         (it's a bug)
13:40 oleonard      I didn't notice that the link disappeared because I was refreshing the entry form page
13:40 Joubu         and I thought we had a warning on the about page, but we actually didn't
13:42 Joubu         AndrewFH: can you explain why you added the dependency between bug 18967 and bug 20212?
13:42 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18967 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Acquisitions receipt search filter is too sticky
13:42 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20212 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to master , Slowness in receiving in acquisitions
13:42 oleonard      Okay. I will file a bug which deals exclusively with the error that happens when categorycode and password are both hidden.
13:43 Joubu         oleonard: It works for me if the default category is defined
13:44 Joubu         the bug is that the self reg form should return 404 if the default cat is not set
13:44 oleonard      If I hide categorycode and password I get this error: [You must provide a patron's category to validate password's strength and length] at /usr/share/perl5/Exception/Class/Base.pm line 88
13:44 AndrewFH      oh, you can remove it if you like. I saw 18967 and thought it might be useful for folks to know that page had changed a lot. in retrospect, it wasn't really a Depends On
13:44 AndrewFH      @Joubu ^
13:44 huginn        AndrewFH: I suck
13:44 Joubu         AndrewFH: maybe we should close 18967 then?
13:45 AndrewFH      I wasn't sure off the top of my head if that stickiness had changed or if we'd maintained the same questionable behavior
13:46 Joubu         AndrewFH: it's now stored in storage, not cookies
13:46 Joubu         so the bug is not longer valid:)
13:46 nlegrand      A good day.
13:46 Joubu         I will comment and close
13:47 Joubu         Salut nlegrand
13:48 nlegrand      Salut Joubu !
13:50 AndrewFH      thanks, Joubu! Good catch :)
13:50 Joubu         AndrewFH: which is wrong, its stored in localStorage, and so will persist until it's removed
13:50 Joubu         the bug is still valid, sorry for the confusion
13:51 AndrewFH      heh, crossed messages
13:52 oleonard      Bug 27626
13:52 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27626 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Patron self-registration breaks if categorycode and password are hidden
13:53 Joubu         oleonard: can you confirm you don't have a default patron category for self reg?
13:53 Joubu         PatronSelfRegistrationDefaultCategory
13:53 oleonard      I do have a default defined.
13:54 ivandz        kidclamp, hi!
13:55 Joubu         oleonard: I don't recreate the problem then. It's still working for me
13:55 oleonard      :/
13:55 Joubu         confirm the categorycode you used is a valid one
13:55 ivandz        Joubu, (~ in yml) means use the default. But what is 'default'?
13:55 Joubu         default is yes, sortable
13:57 ivandz        Joubu, thanks!
14:02 oleonard      ( ‾᷅⚰‾᷄ )
14:03 ivandz        oleonard, -=0_0=-
14:03 pastebot      "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Joubu: Does this explain anything about why I'm getting an error?" (587 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/27753
14:04 Joubu         yes, you have PatronSelfRegistrationVerifyByEmail
14:05 Joubu         I dont'
14:06 Joubu         and I confirm that I get the 500 now as well :)
14:07 oleonard      Hooray! I mean... Boo
14:20 cait          tuxayo: we've retranslated, it was not too horrible, for the MARC files it might be worth getting in touch with Bernardo, he did the marc21 from sql to pootle some time ago
14:20 cait          oleonard: opachiddenitems is getting better with tochens work
14:20 cait          oleonard: if you run in unfiled bugs, please file
14:21 oleonard      I was just looking at the list of bugs was was surprised at the number
14:21 cait          there is an omnibus bug
14:21 cait          yeah there are some
14:23 caroline      what is the difference between putting lost items in OpacHiddenItems and using hidelostitems?
14:27 AndrewFH      good question caroline! OPACHiddenItems could have exceptions for patron categories
14:27 AndrewFH      I feel like there's some other difference I'm blanking on
14:33 caroline      I'm setting up a new Koha for a new client and they asked me to hide lost items from the opac (they're the first i've had who wanted this). I set hidelostitems to hide, but I think I'm going to add lost items to OpacHiddenItems too just to be 100% sure
14:41 Abdul         I'm trying to sign off a patch
14:41 Abdul         which involves navigating to cgi-bin/koha/sco/sco-main.pl in the staff interface.
14:41 Abdul         When I go there I get "not found"
14:41 oleonard      caroline: For what it's worth we've always used hidelostitems and haven't had any trouble with it as far as I know
14:43 Abdul         What is SCO? Do I need to activate it somehow?
14:43 caroline      Abdul, it's the self-checkout module
14:43 caroline      you need to activate the system preference
14:43 oleonard      WebBasedSelfCheck
14:48 TimothyAlexis I'm sory
14:48 TimothyAlexis Sorry*
14:49 caroline      no need to be sorry
14:49 caroline      it's a valid question
14:49 TimothyAlexis So, the patch I'm looking at is 27282, but it seems that with the version of Chrome I have, I am able to print these without the patch :/
14:49 TimothyAlexis bug 27282
14:49 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27282 minor, P5 - low, ---, lucas, Needs Signoff , Printing broken in some versions of Chrome
14:51 TimothyAlexis I had the wrong name here...
14:52 caroline      unfortunately, the bug report doesn't say which version of Chrome is causing the problem
14:52 Joubu         caroline: hidelostitems is for staff interface as well
14:53 Joubu         maybe not
14:53 caroline      Joubu: really? wow it's very powerful... So once an item is lost, it is completely invisible to everyone?
14:54 Joubu         from the search page?
14:54 Joubu         let me check the code
14:54 AndrewFH      I don't think hidelostitems impacts the staff client
14:54 Joubu         it's only for opac, indeed
14:54 AndrewFH      but there is a thing in patron categories that determines whether or not a user can see lost things in the staff client
14:54 caroline      yes I remember that one
14:55 Joubu         OpacHiddenItems is buggy anyway
14:55 AndrewFH      TimothyAlexis caroline I can give lucas a poke about bug 27282, ask which chrome version
14:55 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27282 minor, P5 - low, ---, lucas, Needs Signoff , Printing broken in some versions of Chrome
14:55 Joubu         you shouldn't consider it work in all OPAC views
14:55 caroline      hum... I've never had any problem with it, but thatnks, I'll keep that in mind
14:56 Joubu         bug 24403
14:56 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24403 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , [OMNIBUS] OpacHiddenItems should hide items everywhere in the OPAC
14:56 caroline      is it normal that there isnt anything in the bug report? maybe I don't have the access
14:57 caroline      oh ok I get it, it only links to other bug reports
15:19 tuxayo        cait: hi :) «for the MARC files» so there is something else to do than remove the folder + the reference in xt/ + ensure installer translated in Pootle?
15:21 TimothyAlexis AndrewFH Thank you
15:40 tuxayo        About removing lang-LANG (like fr-FR) installer data, all the strings to replace that old data are in fr-FR-installer.po in the translation platform. Is that correct?
16:11 oleonard      Editing the xsl files is like defusing a bomb, and I keep cutting the wrong wire.
16:20 reiveune      bye
16:22 Joubu         tuxayo: are you talking about bug 27619?
16:22 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27619 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Remove fr-FR installer data
16:22 tuxayo        Joubu: Yes
16:23 tuxayo        trying to not miss steps
16:23 Joubu         The problem is the framework file (marcflavour SQL files). So yes there is much more than that.
16:24 tuxayo        fr-FR-installer-MARC21.po in Pootle?
16:24 Joubu         what we want to reach is 1 .sql for UNIMARC and one for MARC21. They will have "default" for marc_tag_structure and marc_subfield_structure
16:25 Joubu         BUT some languages (like fr-FR, it-IT) have taken too much "liberty" (let's say that) and they diverged completely from what is in "en"
16:25 Joubu         (most of the time for country specific stuffs)
16:26 Joubu         the problem we have now is: if we want to provide a single .sql for all languages, the frameworks will differ from the current "translated" ones
16:31 tuxayo        Oh, it's SQL for inserting base data, not the UI of the installer? (I though it was yaml now for base data at install) Sorry for being totally oblivious to these changes.
16:33 Joubu         it's yml, not for fr-FR, fr-CA, it-IT, ...
16:33 Joubu         they have to be moved to yml
16:33 Joubu         ^yml^the new system
16:42 Joubu         kidclamp: Is self reg supposed to work if PatronSelfRegistrationDefaultCategory is not set?
16:45 Joubu         kidclamp: bug 27626 comment 3
16:45 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27626 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Patron self-registration breaks if categorycode and password are hidden
17:01 AndrewFH      Joubu in theory, yes?
17:01 AndrewFH      but only if the library wants the selfreg patron to be able to pick their own category, which seems really niche
17:03 tuxayo        Joubu: So we have to create this/those yml files before removing the old directory?
17:51 lukeG1        oleonard: did you file a seperate bug to fix the 'Element https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/#the-div-element not allowed as child of element https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/#the-span-element in this context.' in the OPAC xslt?
17:52 oleonard      Bug 27627
17:52 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27627 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Fix invalid HTMl in OPAC results XSLT: change spans to divs
17:52 lukeG1        thanks for catching those!
17:54 oleonard      And a bonus one: Bug 27628
17:54 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27628 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Fix minor HTML markup errors in OPAC search results templates
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