Time Nick Message 00:34 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U2010 build #110: SUCCESS in 52 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U2010/110/ 01:27 tuxayo contender for the bug with the nicest dependency graph: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/showdependencygraph.cgi?id=18789 02:12 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U16 build #49: SUCCESS in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U16/49/ 02:18 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U18 build #294: SUCCESS in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U18/294/ 02:20 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D9 build #298: SUCCESS in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D9/298/ 02:21 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D8 build #366: SUCCESS in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D8/366/ 02:25 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D10 build #130: SUCCESS in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D10/130/ 02:29 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U20 build #192: UNSTABLE in 53 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U20/192/ 07:31 cait1 good morning #koha 07:32 cait1 Joubu: the usual, please? ;) 07:37 magnuse \o/ 07:41 alex_a Bonjour 07:41 wahanui privet, alex_a 07:45 reiveune hello 08:10 ere Morning! :) 08:11 ashimema Morning ere 08:11 ashimema Morning #koha 08:11 ere Hi ashimema 08:11 ashimema humm.. I thought he'd set a cron job for restarting apache on the translate server 08:21 Joubu cait1: I've set the restart 1h earlier 08:22 * ashimema just started to read some of the scripts called in the cron 08:22 ashimema I don't entirely understand at least some of them.. 08:22 ashimema the frameworks one for instance.. it feels like it's missing a step to me 08:23 ashimema we run sync_stores to get the latest translations from the database to file 08:23 ashimema then we run a bunch of stuff against those files.. 08:23 ashimema but I can't see any call to update_stores to then load those updated files back into the database for pootle. 08:24 ashimema I'm hoping I'm just missing something obvious 09:15 * ashimema thinks bug 27454 got forgotten 09:15 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27454 trivial, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Additional patron attributes change sequence on every reload of edit page 11:38 oleonard Hi #koha 11:39 oleonard > <cait1> Joubu: the usual, please? 11:39 oleonard Oh is Joubu bartending today? 12:01 Joubu what's for you oleonard? 12:02 Joubu something light as it's morning for you 12:02 oleonard Still morning for me, so I guess I'll have a coffee and can uploads be accessed via a url? 12:07 Joubu I don't think so 12:09 oleonard No no luck tying audio alerts to uploads without some work :| 12:14 Russ Hello 12:15 Russ I am getting an error after installing ILL backends " Can't locate Koha/Illbackends/FreeForm/Base.pm in @INC (you may need to install the Koha::Illbackends::FreeForm::Base module) 12:15 Russ Does anyboby have a way around it? 12:20 oleonard Russ which instructions are you following? 12:21 Russ https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/ILL_backends and https://github.com/PTFS-Europe/koha-ill-freeform 12:21 Russ I do not where i went wrong 12:22 Russ i do not know where i went wrong 12:23 Russ I followed the instructions from https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/ILL_backends and https://github.com/PTFS-Europe/koha-ill-freeform 12:23 oleonard Russ does the location where you cloned the FreeForm module match the path defined in koha-conf.xml ? 12:24 * cait1 waves 12:24 cait1 oleonard: try to catch kidclamp - he said it already works, so he might be able to tell how they do it for their partners? 12:25 cait1 Russ: did you restart all the things after making your changes? 12:25 cait1 all the things = plack, memcached 12:25 cait1 it woudl also be good to know which patch you put into the koha-conf.xml, where you have the repo and if it's in the directory directly or symlinked to it 12:27 kidclamp oleonard: if you make the file accessible you should be able to get a URL, it's ugly, but the hash plus the filename, attach It to a bib to see the pattern, then you should be able to use that url for the sound 12:28 oleonard Thanks kidclamp I'll give it a try 12:28 Russ oleonard thats the path in the koha-conf.xml <backend_directory>__PERL_MODULE_DIR__/Koha/Illbackends</backend_directory> 12:29 Russ cait1: okay i will restart everything and check again. 12:30 cait1 Russ: either thew rong file or you need to replace the PERL_MODULE_DIR bit 12:30 cait1 saying: that's not a valid path 12:31 oleonard Russ: I would guess there is another koha-conf.xml 12:31 cait1 yeah I think oleonard is right 12:31 cait1 that's probably the "template" one 12:32 cait1 if you have a package install, i think it will probably be in /etc/koha/sites... 12:33 Russ the koha-conf.xml i have edited is in /etc/koha/sites/library/koha-conf.xml 12:33 cait1 ok 12:34 cait1 but you need to make sure the backend_directory has a real path 12:34 cait1 __PERL_MODULE_DIR__ is only a placeholder for something local 12:34 cait1 not meant to be copied 12:35 cait1 as that part can vary depending on how koha was installed, we can't easily put the right thing there 12:35 Russ okay can i replace the path with /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/Illbackends/FreeForm (that's were i symlinked the files) 12:35 cait1 yep 12:35 cait1 that sounds about right 12:35 Russ Thanks cait1 12:35 cait1 sure 12:35 * cait1 wonders if cait1 cait and cait2 are the same person after all :) 12:36 ashimema all caits 12:37 oleonard kidclamp: Oh so the link is the opac-retrieve-file.pl link 12:38 kidclamp Yup 13:23 oleonard When uploads are "marked as temporary," does that have any actual consequences? In what way are they temporary? 13:35 oleonard kidclamp do you know? ^^ 13:36 AndrewFH I think cleanup_database can delete temporary files based on that flag? 13:37 AndrewFH @ashimema do you remember the terrible truth you spoke the other day about Claims Returned and how it doesn't prevent overdues from generating if one does not charge the lost fee? Did you file a bug for that? 13:37 huginn AndrewFH: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready 13:37 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn. 13:38 ashimema humm 13:39 ashimema I remember the conversation.. 13:39 ashimema not sure I remember the bug 13:40 AndrewFH no worries! I'm meeting with the other BWS trainers this morning to play around with that, figure out how best to deal with it in the meantime. I can file a bug based on our conversation and testing. I'll CC you on it, if you like 13:45 oleonard Thanks AndrewFH you're right, cleanup_database can delete temp uploads 13:46 * AndrewFH appreciates the chance to be right about something first thing in the morning 13:47 oleonard :) 13:52 ashimema I detailed my findings in the POD on bug 25552 AndrewFH 13:52 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25552 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to master , Add missing Claims Returned option to MarkLostItemsAsReturned 13:52 ashimema looks like I didn't add a linked bug though :( 13:53 geor good day, i am having problems, i copy here part of the log. this happened to someone, we were not doing anything special. this is [proxy_http:error] [pid 6667] (70007)The timeout specified has expired: [client 104.197.122.43:58706] AH01102: error reading status line from remote server httpd-UDS:0. thank you very much for your help! 13:54 AndrewFH thanks @ashimema! 13:55 ashimema http://irc.koha-community.org/out.pl?channel=koha;date=2021-01-22 was our conversation for reference 14:34 tcohen is it still true that changing dateformat is dangerous? 14:36 Joubu hum, shouldn't be 14:36 Joubu *should* only be used for output 14:36 Joubu (that's the theory) 14:37 tcohen right, that's my understanding 14:37 Joubu geor: you should try to extend Apache's timeout value 14:42 tcohen bug 26471 14:42 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26471 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Datatables js error on missing pdfmake.min.js.map 14:44 Joubu magnuse: any chances to get a SO from you on bug 18984? 14:44 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18984 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Remove support for NORMARC 14:47 oleonard-away tcohen were you trying to summon me? 14:49 tcohen I just noticed its existence 14:55 geor thanks, Joubu .finally it was a plugin that caused i 15:05 Joubu bug 20410 15:05 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20410 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Remove OpacGroupResults system preference and feature 15:05 Joubu 22 files changed, 24 insertions(+), 1615 deletions(-) 15:06 oleonard Cool Joubu, thanks! 15:08 Joubu the NORMAL removal has a nice diff as well 55 files changed, 58 insertions(+), 13282 deletions(-) :D 15:08 Joubu lol, NORMARC 15:10 oleonard You're thinking of Bug 2020: "Remove all that is normal" 15:10 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2020 critical, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, gmcharlt, CLOSED FIXED, search.pl chokes on searches with "+and+" in the url 15:10 oleonard No not that one huginn, it was a joke. 15:11 oleonard What is the purpose of a temporary upload? 15:14 tcohen you upload a marc file, you cancel the first import step 15:15 oleonard Okay, follow-up question... :) 15:15 oleonard What would be the use-case for uploading a temporary file via the upload tool? 15:16 Joubu it's in the code oleonard! 15:16 Joubu 294 permanent => $self->{temporary}? 0: 1, 15:16 Joubu obvious 15:17 oleonard :P 15:17 Joubu oleonard: actually, when I use tools/upload.pl the permanent flag in DB is 0 15:17 Joubu and the directory used to store the files is /var/lib/koha/kohadev/tmp/koha_kohadev_upload 15:17 Joubu so the question for me is more "how to add a permanent upload?" 15:18 oleonard It's in the code Joubu! 15:18 oleonard 68 <div class="hint">Note: No upload categories are defined. Add values to the UPLOAD authorized value category otherwise all uploads will be marked as temporary.</div> 15:19 Joubu ha! 15:20 Joubu so it's either linked to a AV and then it will be considered "permanent" and kept, or it will marked as temporary and removed when the cronjob will be run 15:21 Joubu are you still trying to make the upload feature works with the audio alerts? 15:23 Joubu cait1: Bernardo worked on the translation server today. The restart has been removed from the crontab. We will see this night/tomorrow how it behaves 15:23 oleonard Joubu: I'm chipping away at it. Next I'm wondering if you can search uploads by category 15:24 oleonard Joubu: I have confirmed that it's possible, following kidclamp's description 15:24 Joubu are you going to add a specific category for audio? 15:25 oleonard I guess we could add it as a default, or we could just direct the user to do so 15:26 oleonard A default wouldn't be a bad idea since it would eliminate the step of creating the UPLOAD category itself. 15:26 Joubu yes, definitely 15:27 Joubu and it will "show" the permanent/temporary feature 15:27 Joubu it's quite hidden so far 15:35 pastebot "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Is this dumb?" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/27737 15:37 Joubu oleonard: why not a select with the different categories? 15:38 oleonard Would you then take out the "like" stuff? 15:43 Joubu it would be part of the query is an option is selected, but without like (with exact) 15:43 Joubu if* 15:58 reiveune bye 16:12 ashimema cait still around? 16:12 ashimema cait, cait1, cait2 16:13 fridolin Bug 27597 for a good regexp expert :) 16:13 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27597 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Searching "kw:term" does not work with Elasticsearch 16:14 * oleonard looks at his regexp-related search history and quickly bows out 16:44 cait1 huh? 16:44 cait1 ashimema ashimema ashimema 16:44 * cait1 expects him to pop out of her mirror 16:46 ashimema hello 16:46 cait1 hi 16:46 wahanui what's up, cait1 16:46 ashimema I was going to ask if you still intended to get back to the accounts notices bugs.. 16:46 ashimema matts was asking about them.. but they've basically dropped off my radar now 16:46 cait1 ame for me :( although i'd still like to have it a lot 16:46 ashimema I'd love to see them progress.. but I think you were the one it was waiting on. 16:47 cait1 most likely 16:47 cait1 let's talk tomorrow maybe about some prio bugs? i don't want you to rebase and me not getting to tit 16:47 cait1 to it 16:47 cait1 i was about to leave and cook dinner 16:49 cait1 maybe back online later too 16:51 * oleonard checks the dugout for cait2, cait3, and cait4 17:02 ashimema lol 17:04 ashimema it's been one of those days.. I think I best clock off too before I start re-writing Koha in Jaa 17:04 ashimema Java.. even 17:06 ashimema lol.. or perhaps Velato.. that looks a cool language 17:58 cait ashimema: just don't use Blank 17:58 cait or whitespace... or how thatis called 18:12 tcohen ashimema: Rust 18:12 tcohen or Haskell 18:22 cait :) 18:50 oleonard tcohen: still around? 19:05 tcohen sort of 19:06 oleonard It can wait if you're busy. Need some Perl help. 19:08 oleonard I've been hitting this with a rock but it still doesn't want to search by uploadcategorycode: https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=Koha/UploadedFiles.pm;h=2f44e974c84714674de5c6d959908def20ee21c3;hb=HEAD#l153 19:11 oleonard It worked with "like" but I guess I don't know the right syntax to add it as an exact search http://paste.koha-community.org/27737 19:32 tcohen oleonard-away: you are using an arrayref, things listed there are OR-ed. It feels like you want a big hash instead 20:05 * cait waves 20:12 caroline What does "Change service requested" mean in the HOLD sample notice? 20:43 cait caroline: i asked the same recently and noone could explain 20:44 caroline thanks cait 20:44 cait not very helpful - just showing you are not alone :) 20:44 caroline i'm kinda glad I'm not the only one who doesn't understand 20:44 caroline :) 20:44 caroline I wonder if I can git blame and find the person who added that line 20:45 cait maybe :) 20:45 cait or we could just kick it out of the template 20:46 caroline OMG LOL! git blame says Katrin Fischer XD 20:46 cait heh not true :) 20:46 cait which commit? 20:46 wahanui which commit are you trying to remove? 20:46 caroline dc2c19bd515 20:47 cait only fixed capitalization there 20:47 caroline its capitalization 20:47 cait oyuneed to go further back 20:47 caroline yeah, I'm not good enough with git 20:48 cait jump to that commit 20:48 cait and do the git blame again 20:48 caroline ok i'll try that 20:55 caroline ... seems to be from a Jane Wagner... not sure who that is 20:55 cait kptfs - the US one 20:55 oleonard-away That would have been a LONG time ago 20:56 caroline my hypothesis though is that it was a request to change from print to email maybe? 20:56 caroline because it's only present in the HOLD_PRINT notice 20:56 cait i would suggest we remove it 20:56 caroline same 20:56 cait it might have been taken from a template from a library or so 20:56 cait and noone ever questioned it 20:57 cait caroline: when are you merging my docs patches? :) 20:57 caroline it's somewhere in my todo list 20:59 caroline do you need them merged to translate? 21:00 cait it's ok, just excited 21:00 cait :) 21:00 cait translting will happen again when you branch, just merge before oyu brnach heh 21:00 caroline yes of course 21:01 caroline I tried to work on the cookbook last night, but I didn't have much success 21:28 caroline why are some strings without context or plurals in messages.po? what makes strings go in that one rather than staff-prog or opac-bootstrap? 21:29 caroline maybe I should wait for Joubu to be around to ask that 21:30 cait i tihnk there is a way to write these without giving context 21:30 cait it's optional 21:30 cait and you don't have to do the singular/pluarals 21:31 cait i thin you got to blame oloenard :) 21:31 cait a ton of the new ones are moving the strings out of templates into js, they go there 21:31 caroline I already blamed you and Jane Wagner... might as well blame oleonard too while I'm at it ;) 21:31 cait a lot of these were moved 1:1 - but could use plural/singular 21:31 cait i thought it would make a nice follow-up in qa 21:31 cait :) 21:31 cait hehe 21:33 caroline I was looking at this example 21:34 caroline http://paste.koha-community.org/27739 21:34 caroline It looks like a regular string that could be in staff-prog.po 21:35 caroline just wondering why it went into messages.po rather than staff-prog.po 21:36 cait because all the javascript ones go into messages 21:36 cait staff-prog was what they came from 21:37 cait when they were in the tt 21:37 caroline and what is the difference between messages and messages-js? 21:39 cait huh 21:39 cait now you got me 21:39 cait messages-js hsoudl have the js ones actually... and messages hte ones using the new syntax from tt... i thought