Time Nick Message 01:52 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 01:52 wahanui Congratulations! 01:52 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U18 build #287: FIXED in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U18/287/ 01:56 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D8 build #358: UNSTABLE in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D8/358/ 02:00 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U16 build #41: SUCCESS in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U16/41/ 02:02 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D10 build #120: SUCCESS in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D10/120/ 02:27 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U20 build #184: SUCCESS in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U20/184/ 02:46 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D9 build #291: SUCCESS in 50 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D9/291/ 06:53 reiveune hello 07:08 fridolin hi 07:08 wahanui que tal, fridolin 07:29 alex_a Bonjour 08:15 cait1 snow snow snow.... 08:54 magnuse snow here too, first time this year we had a "proper" snowfall 09:27 cait1 we never got that much as long as I can think of 09:27 cait1 not in Kontanz to be more specific 09:30 ashimema morning 09:31 ashimema fridolin.. have you tested bug 27299 ? 09:31 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27299 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Signed Off , Zebra phrase register is incorrectly tokenized when using ICU 09:31 ashimema it works really well for us in testing.. I'm hoping to get it through QA 09:38 fridolin ashimema: oh yep its perfect 09:38 ashimema fancy giving it your magic stamp as I SO'd it ;) 09:38 ashimema I'm also looking at bug 11158.. which we've retested on top of the above.. and it works great too! 09:38 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11158 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Needs Signoff , Authorities 'starts with' search returns the same as 'contains' when using ICU 09:39 fridolin ashimema: do you whant me to sign also ? 09:39 ashimema but as Colin wrote it.. many moons ago.. I'm unable to SO or QA that one 09:39 ashimema if you fancied it :) 09:40 ashimema ooh.. David re-wrote it.. so I can SO or QA :) 09:41 ashimema so yeah.. if you can varify it works too that would be awesome.. then we can get both in. 09:41 ashimema should mean Zebra and linking work much better :) 09:43 fridolin indeed, we are on this subject actually 09:44 ashimema excellent 09:44 wahanui darn tootin' it is. 09:44 * ashimema is really happy to see a bit more love going into Zebra again at the moment.. 09:45 ashimema ES is cool.. but I personally still think there's a fair bit of life left in Zebra 09:45 der_smon hey! 09:47 der_smon got pulled away from my keyboard yesterday and was not able to react: on 19.05 with elastic search, i get duplicates when batch modifying records in the search index 09:47 der_smon meaning i have to reindex to get rid of the duplicate search results 09:59 ashimema kidclamp is probably best to talk to about that.. but he won't be up for a few more hours I'm afraid der_smon 10:10 der_smon ok 10:10 der_smon seems i am somewhat out of sync with kidclamp 10:11 ashimema where are you based der_smon 10:11 ashimema kidclamp is USA 10:11 der_smon germany, and i start working quite early ;) 10:11 ashimema the other one who knows elastic well is ere.. but I haven't seen him around much recently 10:12 ashimema generally, european afternoons are a good time to say hello.. at the point we should have a fair few europeans around as well as a few americans 10:12 ashimema catches the widest group :) 10:13 der_smon thx ;) 10:15 ashimema also.. my brain tends to wake up after a few cups of tea and I become more helpful in the afternoons too ;P 10:20 Joubu der_smon: I am going to ask you the same question as yesterday: in elastic index or in the Koha search result view? 10:21 der_smon in the result view 10:21 der_smon i am currently checking the index itself 10:21 Joubu Are they pointing to the same record (same biblionumber)? 10:22 Joubu (I don't think that's possible...) 10:23 ashimema lol.. you beat me to it on bug 27047.. tnaks Joubu :) 10:23 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27047 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Purchase suggestions can not search 10:23 Joubu It was on my list for 2 months... 10:23 ashimema haha.. 10:24 ashimema it had only just gone on mine.. but was on the 'when i get a five minute break' list.. which isn't often these days 10:24 ashimema I'll test it though :) 10:29 jsicot Hi #koha folks 10:31 jsicot I'm a koha enthusiast, I join this channel to find or share some information about my favorite ils ^^ 10:33 Joubu Welcome jsicot, that's the perfect place for that :) 10:33 der_smon yes, same biblionumber 10:33 Joubu der_smon: which exact version of Koha are you using? 10:34 der_smon 19.05.05.000 10:34 Joubu then detail what you are doing exactly in the batch tool, I will try 10:35 Joubu der_smon: can you try with the latest 19.05.x? 10:35 jsicot Joubu Great :-) 10:35 Joubu v19.05.17 10:35 Joubu you are missing 12 minor versions 10:35 der_smon i will try 10:36 Joubu there are 700 commits, maybe one is fixing it 10:37 der_smon so my modification rule is "update existing or add new" and basically i check for specific values of 856 z and want to replace them with a different value 10:37 der_smon the duplicate shows up even if the record is not changed 10:37 der_smon (meaning 856 z is no-matching) 10:41 kidclamp https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25342 10:41 huginn Bug 25342: major, P5 - low, ---, nick, CLOSED FIXED, Scripts not running under plack can cause duplication of ES records 10:41 kidclamp der_smon: ^^ 10:43 der_smon ah nice 10:44 Joubu Always consider the bug is fixed already, and update :) 10:55 cait1 oh so much talking here to read back 10:58 * cait1 waves at der_smon 10:59 cait1 which library? 11:02 jsicot Hi @cait1, Sorry, the question was for me? I'm a systems librarian at Rennes 2 university Library (in France) 11:06 Joubu jsicot, cait, I am pretty sure you met already :) 11:07 ashimema I think cait1 was asking where dr_smon comes from.. as they said they're german earlier in chat :) 11:08 jsicot ah sorry 11:08 ashimema no worries.. 11:08 ashimema always nice to know where people are from.. 11:08 ashimema we've probably met too.. if you've been to marseille hackfest in recent years :) 11:08 * ashimema is Martin from PTFS Europe 11:09 * ashimema wonders if we should have some guidelines of form validation... bug 27427 has opened a small can of worms for me. 11:09 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27427 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Update the way form validation errors are displayed 11:09 jsicot yes, I was present at Hackfest perhaps in 2012 or 2013 ? 11:10 ashimema aha.. I may or may not have been at one of those.. haha.. it's long enough ago my brain has faded 11:10 jsicot ^^ 11:12 cait oh i meant der_smon - i know i have met jsicot :) 11:12 jsicot :-) 11:13 cait German users here always have me curious :) 11:13 ashimema hehe 11:13 ashimema your not german are you cait? :P 11:16 der_smon huhu cait 11:16 der_smon dainst ;) 11:53 ashimema I've updated bug 18017 to add bug 27299 as a dependancy fridolin 11:53 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18017 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Use index_heading and index_match_heading in UNIMARC authorities zebra configuration 11:53 ashimema I think it makes sense 11:53 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27299 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Signed Off , Zebra phrase register is incorrectly tokenized when using ICU 11:53 oleonard-away Hi all 11:53 ashimema afraid I can't really test it.. don't know enough about UNIMARC.. but it 'looks right' to me. 11:56 ashimema hi oleonard 11:56 wahanui hi oleopard 12:44 * oleonard sees the ElasticSearch license news... :( 13:19 cait der_smon: I had a hunch :) 13:38 oleonard It would be cool if you could click a statistic in Hea and see a breakdown of Koha version numbers. I'm curious, for instance, what version the 103 libraries using LibraryThingForLibraries are on 13:39 oleonard ...with the ulterior motive that I want to be able to jettison LTFL support ;) 13:44 ashimema that would indeed be cool 13:47 ashimema that looks like it could be doable actually 13:56 magnuse cookbook-meeting in about 1 hour? 13:57 * oleonard has his apron ready 14:02 cait is it an hour or half an hour? 14:02 cait also with apron ready here :) 14:02 ashimema mmm, foood 14:07 magnuse oh yes, maybe half past? 14:08 magnuse ah, yes, i am mistaken 14:09 magnuse cookbook-meeting in about 21 minutes? 14:09 cait should we change the links on the website? Github Koha Gitweb 14:10 cait I'd like to change the first to: Github (mirror) and we are no longer using gitweb... so maybe Koha Git Repository? 14:10 cait https://koha-community.org/ 14:12 oleonard I agree cait. I would put "Koha Git Repository" above Github too 14:12 Joubu cait: yes, could be "Koha Git Repository" and a link to the "Gitlab mirror" 14:13 cait i think they are alphabetic 14:13 cait but it always bugged e too 14:13 cait it# actually the github mirror 14:13 cait but we could add the one on gitlab too? 14:13 cait i will see how tog et there 14:14 Joubu I was suggesting to replace github with gitlab 14:14 cait do you have th elink on hand maybe? i can do that 14:15 Joubu https://gitlab.com/koha-community/Koha 14:15 cait https://gitlab.com/koha-community 14:15 cait ah ok 14:16 cait should we point to the koha repo or to the level above? 14:16 Joubu for the other one you can directly link to https://git.koha-community.org/Koha-community/Koha 14:16 Joubu I'd point to the Koha repo dorectly 14:16 Joubu directly 14:16 cait ok 14:16 cait on it 14:16 cait please test 14:18 Joubu no changes 14:18 cait hm 14:18 cait it shows for me 14:19 Joubu "Community Resources 14:19 Joubu " 14:19 cait deleting cache 14:19 Joubu those link? 14:19 cait try again please 14:19 Joubu https://git.koha-community.org/Koha is wrong 14:19 Joubu it's https://git.koha-community.org/Koha-community/Koha 14:19 cait hm not very handy that one :) 14:19 cait changing 14:20 Joubu it's following the same pattern "koha-community" is the group/namespace 14:20 Joubu and Koha is the project 14:20 Joubu like gitlab 14:20 cait fixed 14:20 cait yeah i can see that, sorry 14:20 Joubu yup! 14:21 cait is vimeo still being used? 14:21 cait kidclamp: do youknow maybe? 14:21 cait https://vimeo.com/channels/kohails 14:21 cait it lists only 5 videos 14:21 cait i am tempted to remove it? 14:21 cait koha 3.2 videos too 14:22 cait last link in the list (in case you wondered what i am talking about) 14:22 cait oleonard: the sequence is alphabetic, i see no option to change it :( 14:22 oleonard At least it's logical in some way 14:23 cait any votes on killing the vimeo oneß 14:23 cait ? 14:23 oleonard I would remove it 14:23 cait thx :) 14:23 cait i've set it to private 14:23 cait so if someone wants we could bring it back 14:24 Joubu maybe add the youtube channel? 14:24 Joubu https://www.youtube.com/c/KohaILS 14:24 cait label? 14:24 wahanui label is "Additional attributes and identifiers" 14:25 cait heh wahanui, not in that case 14:25 cait Videos on Youtube ? 14:25 Joubu Youtube channel? 14:26 cait done 14:28 jsicot Twitter account https://twitter.com/kohails maybe ? 14:29 oleonard A link to my SoundCloud? 14:29 cait heh 14:29 cait i will do that 14:30 cait twitter is a good idea, i have added it 14:30 cait just labelled "Twitter" 14:31 jsicot thx 14:31 cait thx for the suggestion ) 14:31 Joubu (best meeting ever is coming, be ready) 14:31 cait are we meeting here? 14:31 cait ok *jitters* 14:31 caroline_crazycatlady yes 14:31 caroline_crazycatlady i'm getting ready 14:31 magnuse \o/ 14:31 caroline_crazycatlady should I create a wiki page to get the minutes and everything? 14:32 ashimema :) 14:32 cait just realized i forgot to check out the wiki page :( 14:33 Joubu caroline_crazycatlady: nope, just the usual # 14:33 caroline_crazycatlady ah ok good 14:33 caroline_crazycatlady #startmeeting Cookbook Working Group 14:33 huginn Meeting started Fri Jan 15 14:33:55 2021 UTC. The chair is caroline_crazycatlady. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:33 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:33 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'cookbook_working_group' 14:34 caroline_crazycatlady #topic Introductions 14:34 caroline_crazycatlady use #info for intorductions 14:34 oleonard #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA 14:34 caroline_crazycatlady #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro, Quebec, Canada 14:34 magnuse #info Magnus Enger, Libriotech, Norway 14:34 cait #info Katrin Fischer, Germany 14:35 magnuse (probably doing this on my own time, though) 14:35 ashimema #info Martin Renvoize, UK 14:35 ashimema me too.. 14:35 cait same 14:35 oleonard Yes, won't someone please think of the shareholders! 14:36 caroline_crazycatlady lol! 14:36 Joubu #info Jonathan Druart 14:37 caroline_crazycatlady Ok, I didn't really prepare an agenda, but I thought of some things -- format, asking for contributions, measurements (:P) 14:37 magnuse international globetrotter ;-) 14:37 magnuse https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_cookbook_RFC 14:38 magnuse format can be both input and output, i guess 14:38 caroline_crazycatlady We can start with the format 14:38 caroline_crazycatlady on the RFC, it says PDF and or epub 14:38 cait i think an html version could be nice too 14:38 caroline_crazycatlady how do we add contributions? 14:39 caroline_crazycatlady I'll edit the wiki page as we discuss 14:39 magnuse i am thinkgin a git repo that can maybe accept pull requests, but at least the working group members should be able to add commits 14:39 caroline_crazycatlady epub might be a bit big 14:40 magnuse big? 14:40 caroline_crazycatlady to host 14:40 cait caroline_crazycatlady: it#s easy if we use the same tools we have for the manual 14:40 magnuse i had not thought of the tools for the manual, but that does sound like a good idea 14:41 ashimema epub is not bad.. it was the translations that made things big in the manual 14:41 * ashimema was wrong to blame epub 14:41 caroline_crazycatlady so we want to use Restructured text for formatting and sphinx for output? 14:41 cait it's an option that would make it quite easy to generate theother things... 14:41 caroline_crazycatlady ok, good to know 14:41 cait but there might be other options too 14:41 caroline_crazycatlady but we still have to find somewhere to host it 14:42 Joubu what do you need to host? 14:42 cait we could put it on gitlab maybe? or the gitea 14:42 Joubu only the output? 14:42 magnuse gitea = https://git.koha-community.org/ ? 14:42 cait yes 14:42 caroline_crazycatlady I think so, since the input will be on gitlab 14:42 magnuse don't we need to host the source too? 14:42 caroline_crazycatlady or gitea 14:42 magnuse ah 14:43 Joubu I'd consider it the same as other side-projects, use gitlab and its workflow 14:43 magnuse sounds good to me 14:43 Joubu I think we can rely on gitlab to host the output as well. If too big I can host the pdf/epub 14:43 caroline_crazycatlady ok 14:43 * oleonard wonders if we need a recipe copyright expert's advice 14:43 cait +1 14:44 magnuse yeah, we have plenty of space/bandwith too 14:44 caroline_crazycatlady #agreed use gitlab and its workflow 14:44 caroline_crazycatlady #agreed host the output on gitlab as well 14:45 caroline_crazycatlady there was also a print-on-demand option 14:45 caroline_crazycatlady in the wiki 14:45 cait i like the information/layout the wiki suggests, can we make this work with docbook in a structured way? 14:45 caroline_crazycatlady https://www.blurb.com/bookstore 14:45 magnuse yeah, i want a physical book :-) 14:45 caroline_crazycatlady same! 14:45 cait :) 14:45 cait sorry, we ar not using docbook... sphinx... thing 14:46 cait might be good to create a template one can follow 14:46 magnuse i yup 14:46 magnuse awesome if people familiar with the manual could suggest a temaplte 14:47 magnuse but should we say all submissions must use the template? or accept anything and convert to the template ourselves? 14:47 cait i am not sure we have many super familiar with the technical bits and ther might be things we don't really use yet? 14:47 cait i think we shoudl accept submissions outside of gitlab too 14:47 oleonard Agreed 14:47 caroline_crazycatlady yes bc not everyone is confortable with git 14:47 cait i'd be willing to help reformat, once we know how we do it 14:48 cait can you make that an agreed plz? 14:48 Joubu we could have a template wiki page 14:48 magnuse keep it simple s**** ;-) 14:48 cait even the wiki is a bit of a hurdle 14:48 caroline_crazycatlady #agreed we accept contributions outside of gitlab 14:48 cait maybe also have an email acceptance? 14:48 magnuse but how? set up an email somewhere? 14:49 cait hm list is bad because it eats the attachements 14:49 caroline_crazycatlady kohacookbook@gmail? 14:49 cait gmail??? 14:49 cait sorry :) 14:49 magnuse i think gmail or similar makes sense 14:49 cait paranoid German 14:49 caroline_crazycatlady I don't really know other ones, sorry! 14:49 magnuse hehe 14:50 cait Joubu: you have a kc address... is that an option in general? 14:50 Joubu we can use it, yes 14:50 Joubu ha 14:51 Joubu sorry, you mean the bugs.k-c.org address? 14:51 Joubu it's not k-c.org 14:51 Joubu not sure it makes sense to have bugs.k-c.org 14:51 cait ah ok, yep no then 14:51 caroline_crazycatlady cookbook@k-c.org? 14:51 Joubu no 14:51 caroline_crazycatlady ok 14:51 Joubu not possible 14:51 Joubu (there is no mail server) 14:51 magnuse cait: what are you actually paranoid about? it's not for sensitive info? :-) 14:52 Joubu use koha_cookbook@protonmail.com 14:52 Joubu and we will create it 14:52 cait magnuse: it reads emails for advertising... i think that's creepy? 14:52 cait but offtopic here :) 14:53 cait no idea waht protonmail is, but Joubu is usually right 14:53 caroline_crazycatlady so cookbook@protonmail.com is good? 14:53 Joubu koha is missing :) 14:53 caroline_crazycatlady #agreed use kohacookbook@protonmail.com to send recipes to the editors 14:54 cait i like it all in one word 14:54 magnuse is that webmail where we can log in and work in the queue? or would it just pass email along to everyone in the committe? 14:56 caroline_crazycatlady #action caroline will create a template using restructuredtext for the contributions 14:56 magnuse it would be practical if we had one webmail to log into where we could see which submissions had already been handled 14:57 caroline_crazycatlady Joubu or ashimema : can you set up the git repository and the sphinx part? 14:57 Joubu yes, action us 14:57 caroline_crazycatlady #Joubu or ashimema will set up the git repository and the sphinx part 14:58 caroline_crazycatlady #Joubu will create the email address kohacookbook@protonmail.com 14:58 caroline_crazycatlady #action Joubu will create the email address kohacookbook@protonmail.com 14:59 ashimema :) 14:59 Joubu (I've create koha_cookbook already and sent you the credentials) 14:59 Joubu can recreate without _ if needed 14:59 Joubu create*d* 14:59 caroline_crazycatlady can you set it up so that we can access it via web and/or set it up so that it sends us all emails? 14:59 caroline_crazycatlady oops, sorry, I didn't see! 15:00 caroline_crazycatlady do we prefer koha_cookbook or kohacookbook? 15:00 caroline_crazycatlady I don't have a preference 15:00 magnuse me neither 15:00 Joubu I prefer with _ 15:00 Joubu :D 15:00 cait not a strong one 15:00 caroline_crazycatlady ok so lets keep it that way 15:01 caroline_crazycatlady #info email is koha_cookbook@protonmail.com 15:01 magnuse (off topic: who can add 2021 on https://meetings.koha-community.org/ ?) 15:01 caroline_crazycatlady I'll do it 15:01 caroline_crazycatlady I was already in there 15:01 Joubu (magnuse: I've asked gmcharlt already) 15:01 cait gmcharlt 15:01 wahanui i think gmcharlt is usually lurking much earlier.. hense ashimema's pointing him out 15:01 magnuse (cool!) 15:02 caroline_crazycatlady ok if it's something complicated i'll l et them deal with it lol! 15:02 cait i think you probably need to change the html template, not complicated but requires access 15:02 caroline_crazycatlady 2020 stopped in June so I though it was a manual thing 15:03 caroline_crazycatlady ok back to cookbook 15:03 * oleonard wishes 2020 had stopped in June 15:03 magnuse lulz 15:04 cait more .. February 15:04 cait do we agree on the general information to collect as stated on the wiki? 15:04 cait the layout section? 15:04 caroline_crazycatlady does anyone have comments on the elements of the contribution (name of dish, short description, estc 15:04 caroline_crazycatlady https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_cookbook_RFC#Contributions 15:05 magnuse i was thinking, if we accept more than one receipe per person, it might make sense to collect the info about the people in one place 15:05 caroline_crazycatlady we had already discussed we wanted measurements in metric, so g for weight and ml for volume? 15:05 magnuse and link bwtween them 15:05 oleonard For completeness I would add "List of ingredients" to that list above "how to make the dish" 15:05 cait i thin it's there 15:05 cait The receipe List of ingredients and quantities 15:05 caroline_crazycatlady yes under "The recipe" 15:06 cait ah it's in contributions 15:06 cait but missing in layout 15:06 caroline_crazycatlady Do we want more than one contribution per person or just one? 15:06 oleonard Right 15:06 cait hm i think it depends on how many we get 15:06 cait maybe? 15:06 caroline_crazycatlady Ok I added it to the "Layout part" 15:07 magnuse yeah, hard to tell if we will get lots of people contributing or not 15:08 caroline_crazycatlady circling back to oleonard's copyright comment we have to specify to people that this has to be an original recipe, or at least sufficiently modified from an existing one 15:08 magnuse yup 15:08 cait are recipes (simple ones) copyrighted? 15:08 cait a lot of cake recipes are very basic 15:08 caroline_crazycatlady if they are published, yes 15:09 cait waht about things like "pancake batter" 15:09 oleonard The US perspective: https://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-protect.html#recipe 15:09 cait i mean a local recipe might be so general, it's hard to tell 15:09 cait something that is very common in a country 15:09 cait A mere listing of ingredients is not protected under copyright law. < 15:09 cait ok, so you have to make sure to write your own text? 15:10 caroline_crazycatlady If it's common, I wouldn't be worried about it 15:10 cait #link https://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-protect.html#recipe 15:11 cait any suggestions on wording? 15:11 caroline_crazycatlady #agreed specify to people that this has to be an original recipe, or at least sufficiently modified from an existing one 15:11 cait +1 15:11 * ashimema requests a beer recipe or two from Joubu ;) 15:12 caroline_crazycatlady Oh yeah, that makes me think, do we wait for contributions to see how we want to organized them? 15:12 oleonard I think that makes sense 15:12 cait ah categories 15:12 magnuse me too 15:12 cait i think that makes snse too 15:12 caroline_crazycatlady meaning in chapters, like desserts (first of course), main courses, drinks, etc 15:12 cait but we could state that all is good? cocktails to desserts? :) 15:12 cait and beer 15:12 magnuse sure 15:13 caroline_crazycatlady #agreed contributions of all sorts of recipes are welcome 15:13 cait do we really need to ahve beer? *hides* 15:14 magnuse a separate book for beer receipies? ;-) 15:14 cait maybe somethign for another volume 15:14 magnuse i wouldn't mind a few 15:14 oleonard cait no one will make you try the recipe 15:14 magnuse hehe 15:14 marie-luce favourite beer from different country 15:15 cait was just joking :) 15:15 ashimema hehe 15:15 marie-luce me too :) 15:15 marie-luce really exciting your project 15:16 caroline_crazycatlady The final point in the RFC is license 15:16 magnuse related to the question of copyrught is the license of the compilation we are making 15:16 magnuse jinx! ;-) 15:16 cait just got a cake delivery, back in a moment 15:16 magnuse :-O 15:16 oleonard :D 15:17 oleonard Hey you're not allowed to interrupt food meetings for food!! 15:17 magnuse i think it should be as open as possible, allow for remixing etc 15:17 caroline_crazycatlady CC0? CC BY? 15:17 caroline_crazycatlady https://creativecommons.org/about/cclicenses/ 15:18 caroline_crazycatlady Non-commercial? 15:19 caroline_crazycatlady Since we are an open-source community, I would go with CC0 15:19 oleonard I would be fine with CC0 15:19 magnuse tricky 15:19 magnuse CC0 is public domain? 15:19 caroline_crazycatlady yes 15:20 magnuse i'm fine with that 15:20 caroline_crazycatlady anyone has an objection to CC0? 15:20 caroline_crazycatlady #agreed license will be CC0 15:21 magnuse cool! 15:21 caroline_crazycatlady #link https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/ 15:21 caroline_crazycatlady oops 15:21 caroline_crazycatlady #link https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/ 15:21 magnuse CC0 x2 = CC0 15:21 caroline_crazycatlady (I shake a lot) 15:22 caroline_crazycatlady (It's a wonder I can actually knit) 15:22 caroline_crazycatlady Ok so, to summarize 15:23 caroline_crazycatlady We will send a request for contributions 15:23 caroline_crazycatlady specifying the format, elements needed, copyright and licese information 15:24 caroline_crazycatlady Gitlab will be set up 15:24 caroline_crazycatlady and I think that's all we have to do until next mmeting 15:24 caroline_crazycatlady am i forgetting something? 15:24 magnuse setting up the template? 15:24 Joubu even the picture of the contributosr? 15:25 caroline_crazycatlady good point 15:25 magnuse do we want pics of contributors? 15:25 Joubu yes it's the list 15:26 caroline_crazycatlady https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_cookbook_RFC#Contributions 15:26 oleonard I don't think we need it, personally 15:26 Joubu yes it's *in* the list 15:26 caroline_crazycatlady Me either 15:26 * caroline_crazycatlady doesn't like having her picture taken 15:27 caroline_crazycatlady anyone have strong feeling regarding pictures? 15:27 magnuse i put it in the list, but i'm fine with leaving it out 15:28 caroline_crazycatlady Can we put exceptions in a license? 15:28 magnuse best not to? 15:28 caroline_crazycatlady ok so we leave pictures of people out 15:29 caroline_crazycatlady but we want pictures of the dish 15:29 caroline_crazycatlady Next meeting? 15:29 wahanui i guess Next meeting is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Next_IRC_meetings 15:29 magnuse i want to see pics, yes. but they could be optional? 15:30 magnuse did we decide on more than one receipe per contributor? 15:30 oleonard We postponed the decision 15:30 caroline_crazycatlady No, we decided to wait and see what we receive 15:31 magnuse ok, so if we get a flood we can say "one per person"? 15:31 magnuse sounds good to me 15:31 caroline_crazycatlady Do we give it two months? 15:32 caroline_crazycatlady Or is that too long? 15:32 magnuse as the deadline for submissions? 15:32 caroline_crazycatlady I was thinking next meeting 15:32 caroline_crazycatlady but good point 15:32 magnuse ah, sorry, ok 15:33 caroline_crazycatlady I think we can have a deadline later that that 15:33 caroline_crazycatlady give time for people to find, test, wirte and take a picture of their recipe 15:33 magnuse sure 15:34 caroline_crazycatlady So Friday march 12 same time for next meeting? 15:35 magnuse works for me 15:35 oleonard +1 15:35 caroline_crazycatlady #info Next meeting: 12 March 2021, 14:30 UTC 15:35 caroline_crazycatlady #endmeeting 15:35 huginn Meeting ended Fri Jan 15 15:35:38 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 15:35 huginn Minutes: https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/cookbook_working_group.2021-01-15-14.33.html 15:35 huginn Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/cookbook_working_group.2021-01-15-14.33.txt 15:35 huginn Log: https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/cookbook_working_group.2021-01-15-14.33.log.html 15:35 cait sorry, the cake was real 15:35 * caroline_crazycatlady goes to see wat are her action points again... 15:36 magnuse awesome meeting folks, this is gonna be so cool! 15:36 oleonard cait: Real cake is my favorite 15:36 caroline_crazycatlady XD 15:37 oleonard I can't wait to submit my recipe for Marseille Cheese Lunch (1. Buy all the cheese 2. Eat all the cheese) 15:37 magnuse +1 15:37 magnuse and pictures 15:37 wahanui pictures are gooood 15:38 magnuse have fun #koha! 15:38 caroline_crazycatlady I'll try to have a couple from our team... we have a very diverse team so it would be interesting 15:38 oleonard And we can simply steal all these https://bywatersolutions.com/news/2020-bywater-staff-holiday-cookie-recipes 15:39 cait heh :) 15:39 cait yep a coworker dropped by to bring me cake... :) 15:39 caroline_crazycatlady nice! 15:41 * cait got the best coworkers 15:43 ashimema did you see my PM oleonard? 15:43 oleonard Yes 15:44 oleonard I often think I'd like to contribute to hea and then I remember I have so much to do as it is 15:44 ashimema any thoughts? 15:44 ashimema haha 15:44 ashimema I've added some graphs back in.. still not pretty 15:44 ashimema but a start 15:44 ashimema the code is a bit .. challenging.. to work with 15:45 oleonard My thought was to provide a kind of "detail view" for a particular preference, so you could click through from the main list and see a breakdown by Koha version and setting 15:48 ashimema indeed 15:48 ashimema I was spitballing 15:49 oleonard Now that I think about it I think the installation process was a blocker for testing... 15:50 Joubu it's dancer and the DB structure is in the repo 15:50 Joubu install process shouldn't be a blocker 15:51 ashimema I've pushed my proof of concept up and submitted a work in progress merge request 15:52 ashimema what is hea_ws? 15:52 Joubu the webservice 15:52 ashimema I only needed hea_app 15:52 Joubu yes 15:52 * oleonard should take another crack at it 15:52 Joubu hea_ws is the service called by the Koha install to upload their data 15:52 ashimema ah.. of course 15:53 ashimema my quick hack: http://mrdev-zebra-staff.koha-ptfs.co.uk:3000/systempreference_by_version 15:53 ashimema my d3 isn't very good... I'm thinking stacked bard would be nice 15:53 ashimema bars.. even 15:57 ashimema biblibre host hea still don't they? 16:03 liliputech_asu according to the dns , yes it is 16:03 liliputech_asu hea.koha-community.org. 3599 IN CNAME bs-acces.biblibre.com. 16:06 reiveune bye 16:21 cait khall_: around maybe? 16:21 cait or kidclamp? 16:21 wahanui rumour has it kidclamp is reply i guess kidclamp is the first RM not to be bribed 16:21 cait or both? :) 16:22 cait or anyone else interested/knowing about course reserves? 16:22 cait oleonard: are you using course reserves in some way? 16:22 cait caroline_crazycatlady: ? :) 16:22 caroline_crazycatlady some, what is the question? 16:22 oleonard cait no 16:23 oleonard I've only tested it 16:23 cait we are sponsoring a new feature 16:23 cait bug 14237 16:23 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14237 enhancement, P2, ---, hayleymapley, In Discussion , Allow bibs to be added to course without items 16:23 cait because our electronic resources usually have no items... but people want to put them in course reserves 16:24 caroline_crazycatlady for online ressources? 16:24 caroline_crazycatlady makes sense 16:24 cait yep 16:24 cait the question is how to do it in the database 16:24 cait we could add a biblionumber column to course_items... or create a new table 16:25 cait at the moment i lean a bit towards the latter, i think you'd only need the course Id and the bilbionumber... and all the rest of course_items would remain unused/empty... also the name doesn't fit then 16:25 cait but not sure if that woudl be the best way to do it 16:26 caroline_crazycatlady I was leaning towards the first, but I'm not a DB architect, so I'm not the best person to ask 16:26 caroline_crazycatlady I don't necessarily want tables with a gazillion columns 16:27 oleonard Compare it to holds, where the reserve table has biblionumber and itemnumber, right? But only a hold with an itemnumber is an item-level hold. 16:27 oleonard Could it be similar for course reserves? 16:27 cait true 16:27 cait but the other holds columns are used for both 16:27 cait http://schema.koha-community.org/20_11/tables/course_items.html 16:27 cait Joubu: maybe you know about the consequences more? 16:28 caroline_crazycatlady true 16:28 caroline_crazycatlady nothing else would be filled 16:29 cait timestamp 16:29 cait heh :) 16:31 cait hm but we have no clear vote yet, right? 16:31 caroline_crazycatlady no 16:32 cait thx for looking into this with me 16:33 caroline_crazycatlady sorry I couldn't really help 16:33 cait it's ok, i am stuck on this too 16:33 cait that's why we put it on bugzilla 16:58 ashimema I can think about it over the weekend cait 16:58 ashimema Right now.. a beer is calling 16:59 lukeG1 Enjoy ashimema! 17:00 ashimema :-) 17:02 ashimema Ooh, ooh... 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