Time Nick Message 00:00 caroline but yeah, I haven't attacked numbering patterns... that's the biggest chunk 00:00 caroline and there is nothing in the manual https://koha-community.org/manual/20.11/en/html/serials.html#manage-serial-numbering-patterns T_T 00:20 mtj hi tcohen: https://theke-space-one.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/dbgp.tar.gz is causing a ktd build error 00:26 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 00:26 wahanui Congratulations! 00:26 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10_CPAN build #164: FIXED in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10_CPAN/164/ 00:30 cait caroline: i am going to file some manual finds from tranlsating for the acadmey students 00:30 cait might make them really small bugs, don#t be too surprised 00:30 cait i noticed sometimes we escape _ and other times we don't 00:30 cait do you remember why we need to escape with \ ? 00:33 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 00:33 wahanui Congratulations! 00:33 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_U16 build #19: FIXED in 56 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_U16/19/ 03:34 dcook bug 27267 03:34 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27267 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Create more efficient daemon for indexing Zebra 03:35 dcook Hoping that other vendors find that useful too 07:35 * magnuse waves 07:38 reiveune hello 07:41 liliputech_asu hi koha, happy new year! 07:43 magnuse happy new year liliputech_asu 07:44 liliputech_asu hi magnuse :) 07:44 liliputech_asu 明ã‘ã¾ã—ã¦ãŠã‚ã§ã¨ã† -> akemashite omedetou -> happy new year in japanese ^^ 07:45 liliputech_asu how is it in norway? :) 08:02 magnuse godt nytt Ã¥r ;-) 08:03 magnuse no snow here, so quite dark 08:03 ashimema mornin' 08:03 alex_a Bonjour 08:03 magnuse kia ora ashimema 08:03 magnuse ...and alex_a 08:03 ashimema :) 08:03 alex_a Hello magnuse 08:03 alex_a and ashimema :) 08:04 ashimema how is everyone today :) 08:35 magnuse ashimema: busy ;-) 08:48 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 08:48 wahanui Congratulations! 08:48 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D10 build #118: FIXED in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D10/118/ 09:01 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 09:01 wahanui Congratulations! 09:01 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D10 build #31: FIXED in 56 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_D10/31/ 09:20 ashimema alex_a was it you who was keen to work on currency rounding issues at some point? 09:20 ashimema working through issues with floor vs ceil and things? 09:21 Joubu that was tuxayo 09:21 alex_a Yep, that was tuxayo 09:21 ashimema hmm.. I'm sure there was someone else involved at biblibre too 09:22 Joubu bug 21507? 09:22 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21507 major, P5 - low, ---, arthur.suzuki, ASSIGNED , Decimal separators issues in patrons payments/fines, simplified 09:22 ashimema arthur.. that's the person I was thinking of 09:22 alex_a liliputech_asu ^ 09:23 liliputech_asu ooooh... 09:23 liliputech_asu yes, that's me 09:23 ashimema I'm looking for some early feedback on https://gitlab.com/mrenvoize/Koha/-/merge_requests/2/diffs 09:23 ashimema totally in draft at the moment.. 09:24 ashimema but my thoughts are to replace all our currency accessors.. setting them to return Koha::Number::Money objects.. which are basically a minor wrapper around Data::Money 09:24 liliputech_asu \o/ 09:24 ashimema it handles rounding internally and overloads standard perl operators.. so math should 'just work' with rounding included for 'free' 09:26 ashimema I think you're looking at it from the other direction though.. how to ensure input makes sense with locale cases for , vs . as decimal separator.. 09:26 ashimema I reckon I'll need to take that into account somewhere too 09:27 ashimema anywho.. mathematically the tests are all passing on that branch.. there are a few formatting ones failing at the minute that I'm aware of and need to fix.. either by dropping the formatting options in Data::Money or updating our code to use them consistently 09:28 ashimema https://annuel.framapad.org/p/koha_21.05_roadmap - signup if your interested in helping in any regard ;) 09:49 Joubu @later tell tcohen do you agree with the last patch on 27251 or do you think we should add JS to correctly show/hide the table? 09:49 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 10:36 liliputech_asu ashimema: had a look at your draft branch for currencies, looks fine, i will test it on the issue we got from partners, if that suits, can i use it to provide patch on bugzilla? or you take/re-assign the BZ? 10:36 ashimema sure.. this was certainly a starting point draft at this stage 10:37 ashimema it came about from a bunch of "quick fixes" I was seeing around the issues reported in bug 17138.. hence that being my starting point 10:37 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17138 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Failed QA , UpdateFine() modyfies existing fine records even when there is no need 10:37 liliputech_asu ashimema: yes, i think tuxayo was thinking more of js-controlling the input 10:37 liliputech_asu nice. 10:38 ashimema yeah.. I think your side of it is coming at it from the opposite direction.. I reckon we need both 10:38 ashimema mine is all about the serverside handling once the data is already on the server.. we certainly need something to parse input better and validate it's formats 10:38 ashimema I still think inputmasks might be the best approach 10:39 liliputech_asu ok 10:39 liliputech_asu server side improved handling of different currency formats is great too :) (kind of a merry christmas ^^) 10:56 fridolin Bug 27349 10:56 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27349 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Mana system preference wrong type YesNo 10:56 fridolin do you whant coffee ? Yes/No/2 10:56 fridolin ^^ 10:57 tcohen Yes 11:16 oleonard Yes 12:08 tuxayo hi #koha o/ 13:48 caroline good morning everyone! 14:11 magnuse kia ora caroline 14:31 oleonard Hi wizzyrea 14:32 oleonard wizzyrea: I hacked together a patron messages management report of sorts: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Patrons#Search_patron_messages_by_keyword.2C_with_delete_link 14:33 oleonard Useful for deleting multiple messages by keyword 14:34 oleonard Especially combined with this: https://cpriest.github.io/SnapLinksPlus/#/ 15:03 caroline what is the name for {} in English? 15:03 ashimema I call them 'curly brackets' 15:03 ashimema but I'm not sure that's their formal name 15:04 oleonard That's what I know them as too 15:04 caroline that's what my partner said too (he's also a programmer) 15:04 caroline ok that's what I'll use in the manual 15:50 fridolin { is mustache XD 15:51 oleonard :-{ 15:51 caroline { mustache and } fancy mustache 15:51 oleonard 8-{{}} 15:52 oleonard {{8{{}} Cookie monster 15:52 caroline I only see someone with very big lips lol 16:15 reiveune bye 16:20 * cait waves 17:11 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_U18 build #15: SUCCESS in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_U18/15/ 17:19 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_U20 build #18: SUCCESS in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_U20/18/ 17:25 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_U2010 build #18: UNSTABLE in 52 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_U2010/18/ 17:30 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_U16 build #20: SUCCESS in 59 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_U16/20/ 17:32 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D10 build #32: UNSTABLE in 59 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_D10/32/ 17:42 caroline ashimema and/or rangi the last couple of commits on the manual failed 17:43 caroline https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-manual/-/commits/master 17:43 caroline can you help? 17:44 ashimema @later tell rangi can you possible look at the manual builds? I think we've run out of space on the server we're pushing too 17:44 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded. 17:44 caroline cait: I finished the numbering patterns part (not merged yet because of above problem) https://gitlab.com/carolinecyrlarose/koha-manual/-/blob/e503730a93ad637a389f916cf79d2ec3c20fe312/source/serials.rst 17:44 ashimema I've already asked before xmas but it's a busy time ;) 17:44 caroline I understand! 17:45 ashimema I can't clean up things so I think he just needs to go on and delete some stuff 17:45 ashimema i.e the clone of the 'dev' version of the manual 17:45 cait if this here doesn't work maybe email 17:45 ashimema merge it anyways... 17:45 cait IRC is not very reliable for laters 17:45 cait never know when poeple actually say something 17:45 cait to trigger the note 17:46 cait caroline: before even reading it - you're a hero :) 17:46 caroline lol! 17:46 cait reminds me I told my dad today how you helped me navigate the French post service website :) 17:46 cait btw, package arrived! 17:46 caroline did the package arrive? 17:46 caroline lol! 17:46 caroline good! 17:46 cait yep, heard back yesterday, finally! 17:46 caroline I hope she was happy :D 17:47 cait i think she was :) 17:47 caroline I should make kitty/doggy sweaters for those of use who don't/won't have babies 17:48 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D9 build #26: UNSTABLE in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_D9/26/ 17:48 cait :) 17:53 caroline speaking of kitties and doggies... I crack up every time I stumble upon these patterns on ravelry https://www.ravelry.com/designers/valya-boutenko 17:53 caroline the photos are priceless 17:55 caroline LOL https://www.etsy.com/listing/687388614/knitting-pattern-bundle-balaclava-hat 17:57 oleonard That was my favorite too 17:57 caroline I can totally see you wearing one oleonard XD 17:58 oleonard Can you picture my lifeless body after I try to wrestle my cats into hats? 17:58 cait caroline: my next "project" is finding a way to do make cat ears and attach them to the hat i made for a friend... 17:58 cait she won't accept it before 17:59 cait omg... just opened your link 17:59 caroline I did a fox hoodie a couple of years ago, I think the ears were in crochet though 18:01 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D11 build #31: SUCCESS in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_D11/31/ 18:01 caroline this one looks easy https://www.ravelry.com/patterns/library/cat-eared-baby-hat 18:02 cait https://www.ravelry.com/patterns/library/fox-hood-3 mayb 18:02 cait e 18:02 cait a bit bigger 18:03 oleonard Oh that one is nice cait! 18:03 cait already have the hat... but need to attach cat like ears that stand up :) 18:03 cait (if you wonder what keeps me from qa these days....) ;) 18:03 caroline cute! 18:04 caroline oleonard: https://cutecatsinhats.com/ 18:08 caroline aw she also made the matching dog fox hood https://www.ravelry.com/patterns/library/dachshund-fox-hood 18:13 caroline ashimema: can I bother you again? I'm having trouble with this one https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-manual/-/merge_requests/434 18:14 caroline I try to follow the colland line instructions, but it saysfatal: 'origin/lucyvh-master-patch-95749' is not a commit and a branch 'lucyvh-master-patch-95749' cannot be created from it 18:14 caroline and by colland line I mean command line... 18:14 ashimema interesting 18:15 * cait is lost in cat hat 18:15 cait s 18:16 cait ooh great, are we using named images now? 18:16 caroline YES! since last meeting! 18:16 cait gotta read back! 18:16 * caroline is very excited about this 18:16 cait :) 18:17 ashimema it's those bloomin images.rst again 18:17 caroline we also started using the .. Note:: command for notes 18:17 caroline it looks so nice 18:17 cait remind me if i shoudl forget contributing? 18:17 caroline https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/ReStructuredText_-_Tips_and_Tricks#Images 18:18 ashimema you should be able to click the magic button now Caroline 18:18 caroline I also experimented with .. Tip:: and .. Warning:: 18:19 ashimema no idea why you were getting that weird issue with checking the branch out 18:19 caroline ashimema: thank you so much! what did you do? 18:19 ashimema it checked out ok here.. so I rebased it and force pushed over the top of Lucy's branch for you 18:19 caroline ok thanks! 18:20 ashimema no worries 18:20 * ashimema would have walked you through it.. but brain is in end of day mode and I have kids screaming at me for tea ;) 18:20 * caroline really needs to get on top of merging requests so that it doesn't come to that... 18:51 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_D11 build #32: SUCCESS in 50 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.11_D11/32/ 19:21 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U16 build #40: SUCCESS in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U16/40/ 19:21 rangi ashimema: the server is the www.koha-community.org site 19:22 rangi and yep the /var/www/manual partition is full 19:22 rangi it's not my server so i cant do much about that 19:23 rangi apart from delete stuff 19:25 rangi @later tell ashimema you'll need to ask liz to make the partition bigger or we will need to delete some older manuals 19:25 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 19:26 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D10 build #119: SUCCESS in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D10/119/ 19:32 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D8 build #357: SUCCESS in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D8/357/ 19:37 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U18 build #286: UNSTABLE in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U18/286/ 19:40 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U20 build #183: SUCCESS in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U20/183/ 19:49 magnuse kia ora rangi 19:49 rangi kia ora magnuse, happy new year 19:50 magnuse same to you, same to you 20:15 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D9 build #290: SUCCESS in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D9/290/ 20:17 thd Was anyone here for the general meeting? 20:18 caroline oh yeah, I forgot 20:19 thd If it is not going to happen today I have the door handle to the entrance to my building to fix. 20:19 caroline I think it's a bad idea to have the general meetings this late if the rm is never there at this time 20:21 thd Someone official should be fixing door handles to my building but they building people have tended to do a poor job with the door and it would be broken again in a week or so risking all of us being locked out or locked in. 20:22 cait he sometimes is 20:22 cait i think it's more forgetting in this case? 20:22 cait Joubu? 20:22 wahanui Joubu is kidding, right ;) 20:22 cait wahanui.. not sure that is true 20:24 thd Joubu is not a kidding 20:26 thd If general meetings are never late, then it is a difficulty for Oceana. 20:26 magnuse i don't think it would be wise to always assume Joubu is kidding :-) 21:14 ashimema rangi still around? 21:14 ashimema or liz 21:15 ashimema I think we can delete one version of the manual.. currently 20.05 and 20.11 are duplicates of each other so I dropped building 20.11 again but it built one copy of it before it filled the disk.. i think 21:19 rangi i can drop the 20.11 if you like 21:20 rangi we go back to 16.11 21:21 rangi dont really want to drop old ones unless we really have to tho, but i can drop the 20.11 one 21:22 rangi the links in 20.11 koha will break then though 21:22 rangi (help links) 21:24 cait not so good 21:35 ashimema Indeed.. that's why I added it 21:36 ashimema But Caroline informed me they don't branch for a long time yet.. so it'll just be a clear be of what we're pushing for 20.05 21:36 ashimema Humm.. decisions 22:20 * cait sends oleonard-away cookies 22:29 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 22:29 wahanui Congratulations! 22:29 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U18 build #37: FIXED in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U18/37/ 22:39 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9 build #174: UNSTABLE in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9/174/ 22:50 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9_My8 build #206: STILL UNSTABLE in 53 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9_My8/206/ 22:51 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U20 build #207: STILL UNSTABLE in 53 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U20/207/ 22:53 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D11 build #150: STILL UNSTABLE in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D11/150/ 23:02 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U16 build #181: STILL UNSTABLE in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U16/181/ 23:10 alexbuckley happy new year everyone! 23:18 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U2010 build #72: UNSTABLE in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U2010/72/ 23:33 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U20 build #208: STILL UNSTABLE in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U20/208/ 23:37 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #177: STILL UNSTABLE in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D10/177/ 23:39 lisettelatah Happy new year alexbuckley 23:43 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U18 build #38: UNSTABLE in 51 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U18/38/ 23:48 alexbuckley thanks lisettelatah! 23:48 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9 build #175: STILL UNSTABLE in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9/175/