Time Nick Message 00:00 tuxayo It's like no one can SO it. BibLibre can't because they did it. Other french librarians can't because it need commands. 00:00 tuxayo I can't because I can't get a unimarc env working T_T 00:03 tuxayo In inself it's not very hard to test. 00:04 tuxayo The irony. 00:04 tuxayo That's why I have to get unimarc working on ktd 00:05 liliputech_asu oooooh 00:05 liliputech_asu i could go through the installer :) 00:07 liliputech_asu its a bit long but it worked, i only checked the mandatory datas, and used english language, maybe french is broken 00:07 liliputech_asu (french language is broken btw, not koha-speaking) 00:08 liliputech_asu tsss, no gender-neutral pronouns, tsssssss.... 00:12 tuxayo french-- 00:13 tuxayo liliputech_asu: you have a working unimarc Koha now???! 00:16 liliputech_asu yep :) 00:17 liliputech_asu well, working... didn't test much :] 00:17 liliputech_asu but as far as i can tell, i can login, do stuff, and marcflavour is set to unimarc :) 00:18 tuxayo liliputech_asu thank you, I will try that! :D 00:18 liliputech_asu bon courage, la route est longue mais la voie est libre :) 00:20 liliputech_asu there must be an english translation of this idioms in english that i don't know, quite like the french version though ^^ 00:20 liliputech_asu oh, english translation in english... time to sleep maybe? 00:20 liliputech_asu :p 00:23 tuxayo yes, time to sleep :P 00:28 * liliputech_asu goes away... 'night koha, see u later aligator! 02:09 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10-Common build #6: STILL UNSTABLE in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10-Common/6/ 02:14 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10-Core build #5: NOW UNSTABLE in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10-Core/5/ 02:22 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10-Full build #8: STILL UNSTABLE in 56 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10-Full/8/ 03:57 dcook mtj: check out my responses on bug 26893 03:57 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26893 blocker, P5 - low, ---, mtj, ASSIGNED , New version of JSON::Validator (D11) breaks our REST API routes 03:57 dcook I thought I was going crazy until I saw the debian changelog.. 04:16 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10-Common build #7: STILL UNSTABLE in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10-Common/7/ 04:21 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10-Core build #6: STILL UNSTABLE in 52 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10-Core/6/ 04:29 dcook "bon courage, la route est longue mais la voie est libre" 04:29 dcook I like that 04:29 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10-Full build #9: STILL UNSTABLE in 59 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10-Full/9/ 04:29 dcook I like that I read it without realizing it was in French too heh 04:29 * dcook needs to practice his language skills though.. 05:30 dcook I love how I did not anticipate the ordering of @INC when using "use lib" 05:30 dcook *dies* 07:04 fridolin hi there 07:23 alex_a Bonjour 07:27 reiveune hello 07:27 wahanui hola, reiveune 07:28 dersmon hi 07:36 dersmon i got a question, are any french(wo)men here? we have L'énigme de la Vénus de Milo, but searching for énigme does not return any results 07:36 dersmon only *énigme 07:36 dersmon (using elastic search) 07:38 dersmon is this intentional? i would have expected elastic search to consinder l and énigme as two "words" 07:42 dersmon ah https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21357 07:42 huginn Bug 21357: normal, P5 - low, ---, ere.maijala, Failed QA , Filter elisions from index and search terms in Elasticsearch 07:58 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10-Common build #8: ABORTED in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10-Common/8/ 08:00 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10-Common build #9: ABORTED in 2 min 6 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10-Common/9/ 08:01 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10-Core build #7: ABORTED in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10-Core/7/ 08:01 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10-Common build #10: FAILURE in 52 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10-Common/10/ 08:02 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10-Core build #8: FAILURE in 30 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10-Core/8/ 08:03 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10-Full build #10: ABORTED in 21 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10-Full/10/ 08:48 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 08:48 wahanui Congratulations! 08:48 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10-Common build #11: FIXED in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10-Common/11/ 08:56 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10-Core build #9: NOW UNSTABLE in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10-Core/9/ 09:04 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 09:04 wahanui Congratulations! 09:04 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10-Full build #11: FIXED in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10-Full/11/ 09:06 ashimema cait around? 09:15 cait1 no? 09:15 wahanui no is that a thing? I was just thinking about how I like all kinds of chips and now I find out that there is a licorice flavor! 09:16 cait1 kind of arund, what's up? 09:17 ashimema I was going to quiz you about string freeze.. but I think we just came up with a way around it 09:19 ashimema but to double check our sanity.. 09:19 magnuse wahanui: forget no 09:19 wahanui magnuse: I forgot no 09:19 ashimema the removal of a sample notice would hurt translators less than updating the notice now wouldn't it? 09:30 cait ? 09:30 cait you mean from the yml? 09:30 cait or from the updatedatabase or both? 09:32 ashimema all 09:34 ashimema i.e. bug 26282 , It's too late in the cycle to 'do it right'. So we want to effectively disable the feature by dropping the sample notices and do it properly for the .01 release, re-introducing the notice and implementing it properly with the requisite string changes. 09:34 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26282 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Allow staff to decide if a hold cancellation notice will be sent when cancelling a hold 09:34 ashimema see the final patch on that bug for all the places I drop the sample 09:35 ashimema then the proper fix will likely be one of the first patches pushed for 20.11.01 10:09 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10-Core build #10: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10-Core/10/ 10:30 cait hm ok 10:30 cait well removing shoudl not be an issue 10:30 cait as long as it the chang ein line numbers doesn't turn things fuzzy in the xml file 10:31 cait yml file 10:31 cait you can check that maybe 10:32 cait fuzzy = string didn't change but something else did and it won't be translated 10:44 tcohen ashimema++ 10:44 tcohen Joubu++ 10:45 tcohen happy release, Joubu 10:45 ashimema fancy doing a fast QA on bug 27103 tcohen? 10:45 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27103 blocker, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Adding a hold cancellation reason should not always send a notice 10:46 ashimema I'm confident.. I've tested an fresh install (to check the notice isn't created).. I've tested a upgrade (to ensure the notice isn't added) 10:47 ashimema and then i tested a cancellation to ensure the client doesn't crash or anything.. all seems good.. we do get a warning in the logs but I think that's ok for a .00 -> .01 month whilst we do the more involved fix we've been working on together.. which includes string changes 10:54 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #302: FAILURE in 40 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D9/302/ 10:55 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #306: FAILURE in 48 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D8/306/ 10:59 tcohen ashimema I read the chat about it during my morning coffee 10:59 tcohen and I think it is the best solution as well 11:00 tcohen we still have a few hours for the release so we could push some more big things 11:00 tcohen but... 11:00 tcohen kidding 11:00 tcohen is friday 11:04 ashimema 😂 11:05 Joubu git push pick_random(grep { $_->status eq "Failed QA" } @bugs) 11:05 Joubu how many do you want? 11:06 * ashimema drops mic 11:06 tcohen hahaha 11:07 tcohen Joubu what music does the RM listen while releasing this awesome Koha version? 11:07 tcohen Jazz? 11:08 Joubu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2bTcLZ63Yw&list=PLetv3SCC-r3YkAefLN2RDx6umUOF7fN9e 11:09 * ashimema is on https://youtu.be/aHicMx6_0Lo 11:11 tcohen :-D 11:12 tcohen I'm listening to Bad Religion, True North 11:12 tcohen can switch to Cachaito 11:31 Joubu eythian: can you confirm this is correct: 11:32 Joubu msgid_plural "There are {count} archived suggestions." 11:32 Joubu msgstr[1] "Er zijn {count} gearchiveerde suggesties." 11:32 Joubu (they translated it without {count}, like "Er zijn gearchiveerde suggesties.") 11:32 eythian It looks correct to me 11:32 eythian I'll get a nativer to double-check 11:32 Joubu thanks 11:33 Joubu Do you have Armenian skills as well? :D 11:33 eythian I mean, I can pretend :) 11:40 eythian Joubu: confirmed with a native speaker :) 11:40 Joubu Thanks eythian! 11:40 Joubu Anyone with Chinese skills around? 11:42 Joubu ashimema: weren't you learning Chinese? 11:44 ashimema haha.. nope 11:44 ashimema not I 11:49 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 11:49 wahanui Congratulations! 11:49 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10-Core build #11: FIXED in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10-Core/11/ 11:51 mtj hey #koha 11:53 mtj folks, perhaps we update the core/full package descriptions as 'experimental', until whenever? 11:53 tcohen I'd say we don't need that 11:53 tcohen it is not that everyone will jump into using them? 11:54 mtj we have not really had a chance to test them yet, and we dont want people using them for production stuff 11:54 tcohen ok 11:54 Joubu we noted them as "experimental" in the release notes 11:54 tcohen is htis something to put on the release notes? or the package description? 11:55 mtj i'm suggesting we update the description in the d/control files 11:55 mtj ..too :) 11:55 Joubu there is a section in the tech release notes 11:55 Joubu yes, both 11:55 mtj yes :) 11:56 mtj people never read the doco (speaking from personal experience here) 11:59 mtj ill send a patch 12:03 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27103: Remove from fr-FR <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1e69d96a0370366fada6168867b658c152fd8ec2> 12:03 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27103: Remove HOLD_CANCELLATION notice <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0f47e16ef6008e6494128fa400fae61bc3adbef3> 12:03 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25534: Add missing td in tfoot in pendingreserves <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=68079c72744bbb93a3f512e445a1dd15323d9694> 12:03 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27079: Unit tests <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=442802d77629586fe906f1055ce386ace8165d8c> 12:03 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27079: Floating point comparison correction <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f99a22f276e429863d4168f7f92c60e66deeb82d> 12:13 ashimema :) 12:14 tcohen :-D 12:25 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26672: Add 'experimental' info to koha-core and koha-full descriptions <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8dc44290cfdeb8373f32a992c35a38759f25b161> 12:43 ashimema I'm off out for a quick walk with the dog.. let me know if there's anything outstanding you'd like me to take care of when I'm back Joubu 12:45 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #425: SUCCESS in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/425/ 12:54 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11 build #162: SUCCESS in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11/162/ 13:24 TimothyAlexis delete_patrons.pl now allows multiple --category_code bug 27050 13:24 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27050 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, timothy_alexis.vass, ASSIGNED , Allow multiple category_codes in delete_patrons.pl 13:25 TimothyAlexis Needs Sign Off. 13:26 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #426: SUCCESS in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/426/ 13:27 caroline cait I have another translation question... I'm translating the MARC framework and I'm wondering what to do with the Obsolete and RLIN fields. They are not used here afaik and I can't find official translation 13:27 caroline Did you translate them for German? 13:27 tuxayo hi #koha :) 13:28 caroline salut tuxayo! 13:29 tuxayo salut! 13:31 caroline I think I translated everything that is on www.marc21.ca (fr-CA version of loc.gov/marc), I'll just leave the rest in English I guess 13:33 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10-Full build #12: SUCCESS in 58 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10-Full/12/ 13:45 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11 build #163: SUCCESS in 51 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11/163/ 13:46 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #131: ABORTED in 1 min 15 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D10/131/ 13:55 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1507: SUCCESS in 1 hr 1 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1507/ 13:56 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #132: ABORTED in 4 min 37 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D10/132/ 14:08 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D10 build #99: ABORTED in 19 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D10/99/ 14:09 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10-Core build #12: SUCCESS in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10-Core/12/ 14:25 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #334: FAILURE in 14 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9/334/ 14:34 cait caroline: i think not consistently - if it was easy i probably did, but i might just have copied them over 14:35 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_10 build #1: FAILURE in 9 min 57 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_10/1/ 14:38 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_10 build #2: ABORTED in 3 min 35 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_10/2/ 14:45 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U2010 build #58: SUCCESS in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U2010/58/ 14:49 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #133: SUCCESS in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D10/133/ 14:50 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D10 build #100: SUCCESS in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D10/100/ 14:53 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D8 build #281: FAILURE in 13 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D8/281/ 14:56 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_U18 build #327: FAILURE in 8 min 50 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_U18/327/ 14:58 Joubu mtj: are you playing with Jenkins? 14:58 Joubu Or is Jenkins playing alone? 15:01 tuxayo One of the 19.05 builds has started with an SCM change, I didn't push anything :o 15:01 tuxayo Jenkins is mistaken, there is no new commit on 19.05.x 15:15 tuxayo > Error: Can't locate Array/Utils.pm 15:15 tuxayo Hum, it was added a month ago. 15:23 Joubu tuxayo: not scm change, it's mason "Started by user Mason James" 15:24 Joubu at least for 19.05_D8/281 15:33 Joubu caroline: https://koha-community.org/manual/20.11/fr_CA/html/ 15:33 Joubu it says "Koha 20.11 Manual (en)" 15:33 Joubu why (en)? 15:33 caroline probably not translated 15:33 caroline in French it would be Manuel Koha, so Koha Manual is not translated 15:34 caroline translating the manual is unfortunately not a priority (too many other priorities lol!) 15:35 Joubu caroline: it's translated nowhere 15:35 Joubu maybe it's the project's name, that's is not translatable 15:35 Joubu in that case we should remove the (en) 15:35 caroline I'll check on pootle 15:35 Joubu not important anyway :) 15:36 caroline It's in the strings on Pootle for 20,05 https://translate.koha-community.org/fr_CA/man20.05/translate/#search=Koha%20Manual&sfields=source&unit=14573270&offset=0 15:37 caroline but maybe it's not a bad idea to remove it... does it bring new information? 15:43 Joubu will see how it goes translated 16:00 huginn News from kohagit: Add release notes for Koha 20.11.00 <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=02bc85cbef22a4db7b4a92f1b324c8e4b287ee81> 16:00 huginn News from kohagit: Translation updates for Koha 20.11.00 <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=373835c1360096ca4f0bfc63e566256adab6bef8> 16:00 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27108: Add 21.05 release team to teams.yaml <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=adf0293c7bc6b46dbd9c10e86a4684c602b23e16> 16:00 huginn News from kohagit: Adjust history and contributors list <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=db5da36c9126cbcf7c8482bef3adfe7faa1a4160> 16:00 huginn News from kohagit: Koha 20.11.00 is here! <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5deae26ae8fa886ea6830f1e7242082e6f7bd38c> 16:00 huginn News from kohagit: Fix some updatedatabase.pl issues <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b52d2eb09b75a9fd47d83fa64e69c96599e80cc6> 16:00 huginn News from kohagit: Fix translation issues <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d3acf7bebc0084be622e1f0e1c655523e2ddc1cf> 16:03 tuxayo Joubu++ 16:03 tuxayo confetti! 16:03 wahanui o/`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 16:04 reiveune bye 16:09 ashimema exciting times :) 16:09 ashimema Joubu++ 16:19 tcohen Joubu++ 16:19 tcohen confetti! 16:19 wahanui o/`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 16:20 tcohen JOubu++ 16:46 Joubu Thanks you all! 16:46 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1508: SUCCESS in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1508/ 16:46 Joubu It was an exciting one :) 16:50 ashimema right.. time for a beer :) 16:50 ashimema have a great weekend Joubu and all 16:50 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11 build #164: SUCCESS in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11/164/ 16:51 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #427: SUCCESS in 51 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/427/ 17:00 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10-Full build #13: SUCCESS in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10-Full/13/ 17:18 cait congrats team! confetti! 17:18 cait sorry, I was so absent 17:19 cait Joubu++ 17:23 tcohen have a good one, Joubu and ashimema 17:40 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U2010 build #59: SUCCESS in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U2010/59/ 17:59 tcohen :-D 18:13 caroline have a grest weekend #koha! 18:15 tcohen same! 19:41 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_U18 build #328: STILL FAILING in 11 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_U18/328/ 23:46 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #335: ABORTED in 25 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9/335/