Time  Nick             Message
00:00 tuxayo           It's like no one can SO it. BibLibre can't because they did it. Other french librarians can't because it need commands.
00:00 tuxayo           I can't because I can't get a unimarc env working T_T
00:03 tuxayo           In inself it's not very hard to test.
00:04 tuxayo           The irony.
00:04 tuxayo           That's why I have to get unimarc working on ktd
00:05 liliputech_asu   oooooh
00:05 liliputech_asu   i could go through the installer :)
00:07 liliputech_asu   its a bit long but it worked, i only checked the mandatory datas, and used english language, maybe french is broken
00:07 liliputech_asu   (french language is broken btw, not koha-speaking)
00:08 liliputech_asu   tsss, no gender-neutral pronouns, tsssssss....
00:12 tuxayo           french--
00:13 tuxayo           liliputech_asu: you have a working unimarc Koha now???!
00:16 liliputech_asu   yep :)
00:17 liliputech_asu   well, working... didn't test much :]
00:17 liliputech_asu   but as far as i can tell, i can login, do stuff, and marcflavour is set to unimarc :)
00:18 tuxayo           liliputech_asu thank you, I will try that! :D
00:18 liliputech_asu   bon courage, la route est longue mais la voie est libre :)
00:20 liliputech_asu   there must be an english translation of this idioms in english that i don't know, quite like the french version though ^^
00:20 liliputech_asu   oh, english translation in english... time to sleep maybe?
00:20 liliputech_asu   :p
00:23 tuxayo           yes, time to sleep :P
00:28 * liliputech_asu goes away... 'night koha, see u later aligator!
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03:57 dcook            mtj: check out my responses on bug 26893
03:57 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26893 blocker, P5 - low, ---, mtj, ASSIGNED , New version of JSON::Validator (D11) breaks our REST API routes
03:57 dcook            I thought I was going crazy until I saw the debian changelog..
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04:29 dcook            "bon courage, la route est longue mais la voie est libre"
04:29 dcook            I like that
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04:29 dcook            I like that I read it without realizing it was in French too heh
04:29 * dcook          needs to practice his language skills though..
05:30 dcook            I love how I did not anticipate the ordering of @INC when using "use lib"
05:30 dcook            *dies*
07:04 fridolin         hi there
07:23 alex_a           Bonjour
07:27 reiveune         hello
07:27 wahanui          hola, reiveune
07:28 dersmon          hi
07:36 dersmon          i got a question, are any french(wo)men here? we have L'énigme de la Vénus de Milo, but searching for énigme does not return any results
07:36 dersmon          only *énigme
07:36 dersmon          (using elastic search)
07:38 dersmon          is this intentional? i would have expected elastic search to consinder l and énigme  as two "words"
07:42 dersmon          ah https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21357
07:42 huginn           Bug 21357: normal, P5 - low, ---, ere.maijala, Failed QA , Filter elisions from index and search terms in Elasticsearch
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08:48 koha-jenkins     Yippee, build fixed!
08:48 wahanui          Congratulations!
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09:04 koha-jenkins     Yippee, build fixed!
09:04 wahanui          Congratulations!
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09:06 ashimema         cait around?
09:15 cait1            no?
09:15 wahanui          no is that a thing? I was just thinking about how I like all kinds of chips and now I find out that there is a licorice flavor!
09:16 cait1            kind of arund, what's up?
09:17 ashimema         I was going to quiz you about string freeze.. but I think we just came up with a way around it
09:19 ashimema         but to double check our sanity..
09:19 magnuse          wahanui: forget no
09:19 wahanui          magnuse: I forgot no
09:19 ashimema         the removal of a sample notice would hurt translators less than updating the notice now wouldn't it?
09:30 cait             ?
09:30 cait             you mean from the yml?
09:30 cait             or from the updatedatabase or both?
09:32 ashimema         all
09:34 ashimema         i.e. bug 26282 , It's too late in the cycle to 'do it right'. So we want to effectively disable the feature by dropping the sample notices and do it properly for the .01 release, re-introducing the notice and implementing it properly with the requisite string changes.
09:34 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26282 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Allow staff to decide if a hold cancellation notice will be sent when cancelling a hold
09:34 ashimema         see the final patch on that bug for all the places I drop the sample
09:35 ashimema         then the proper fix will likely be one of the first patches pushed for 20.11.01
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10:30 cait             hm ok
10:30 cait             well removing shoudl not be an issue
10:30 cait             as long as it the chang ein line numbers doesn't turn things fuzzy in the xml file
10:31 cait             yml file
10:31 cait             you can check that maybe
10:32 cait             fuzzy  = string didn't change but something else did and it won't be translated
10:44 tcohen           ashimema++
10:44 tcohen           Joubu++
10:45 tcohen           happy release, Joubu
10:45 ashimema         fancy doing a fast QA on bug 27103 tcohen?
10:45 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27103 blocker, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Adding a hold cancellation reason should not always send a notice
10:46 ashimema         I'm confident.. I've tested an fresh install (to check the notice isn't created).. I've tested a upgrade (to ensure the notice isn't added)
10:47 ashimema         and then i tested a cancellation to ensure the client doesn't crash or anything.. all seems good.. we do get a warning in the logs but I think that's ok for a .00 -> .01 month whilst we do the more involved fix we've been working on together.. which includes string changes
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10:59 tcohen           ashimema I read the chat about it during my morning coffee
10:59 tcohen           and I think it is the best solution as well
11:00 tcohen           we still have a few hours for the release so we could push some more big things
11:00 tcohen           but...
11:00 tcohen           kidding
11:00 tcohen           is friday
11:04 ashimema         😂
11:05 Joubu            git push pick_random(grep { $_->status eq "Failed QA" } @bugs)
11:05 Joubu            how many do you want?
11:06 * ashimema       drops mic
11:06 tcohen           hahaha
11:07 tcohen           Joubu what music does the RM listen while releasing this awesome Koha version?
11:07 tcohen           Jazz?
11:08 Joubu            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2bTcLZ63Yw&list=PLetv3SCC-r3YkAefLN2RDx6umUOF7fN9e
11:09 * ashimema       is on https://youtu.be/aHicMx6_0Lo
11:11 tcohen           :-D
11:12 tcohen           I'm listening to Bad Religion, True North
11:12 tcohen           can switch to Cachaito
11:31 Joubu            eythian: can you confirm this is correct:
11:32 Joubu            msgid_plural "There are {count} archived suggestions."
11:32 Joubu            msgstr[1] "Er zijn {count} gearchiveerde suggesties."
11:32 Joubu            (they translated it without {count}, like "Er zijn gearchiveerde suggesties.")
11:32 eythian          It looks correct to me
11:32 eythian          I'll get a nativer to double-check
11:32 Joubu            thanks
11:33 Joubu            Do you have Armenian skills as well? :D
11:33 eythian          I mean, I can pretend :)
11:40 eythian          Joubu: confirmed with a native speaker :)
11:40 Joubu            Thanks eythian!
11:40 Joubu            Anyone with Chinese skills around?
11:42 Joubu            ashimema: weren't you learning Chinese?
11:44 ashimema         haha.. nope
11:44 ashimema         not I
11:49 koha-jenkins     Yippee, build fixed!
11:49 wahanui          Congratulations!
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11:51 mtj              hey #koha
11:53 mtj              folks, perhaps we update the core/full package descriptions as 'experimental', until whenever?
11:53 tcohen           I'd say we don't need that
11:53 tcohen           it is not that everyone will jump into using them?
11:54 mtj              we have not really had a chance to test them yet, and we dont want people using them for production stuff
11:54 tcohen           ok
11:54 Joubu            we noted them as "experimental" in the release notes
11:54 tcohen           is htis something to put on the release notes? or the package description?
11:55 mtj              i'm suggesting we update the description in the d/control files
11:55 mtj              ..too :)
11:55 Joubu            there is a section in the tech release notes
11:55 Joubu            yes, both
11:55 mtj              yes :)
11:56 mtj              people never read the doco (speaking from personal experience here)
11:59 mtj              ill send a patch
12:03 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 27103: Remove from fr-FR <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1e69d96a0370366fada6168867b658c152fd8ec2>
12:03 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 27103: Remove HOLD_CANCELLATION notice <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0f47e16ef6008e6494128fa400fae61bc3adbef3>
12:03 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 25534: Add missing td in tfoot in pendingreserves <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=68079c72744bbb93a3f512e445a1dd15323d9694>
12:03 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 27079: Unit tests <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=442802d77629586fe906f1055ce386ace8165d8c>
12:03 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 27079: Floating point comparison correction <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f99a22f276e429863d4168f7f92c60e66deeb82d>
12:13 ashimema         :)
12:14 tcohen           :-D
12:25 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 26672: Add 'experimental' info to koha-core and koha-full descriptions <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8dc44290cfdeb8373f32a992c35a38759f25b161>
12:43 ashimema         I'm off out for a quick walk with the dog.. let me know if there's anything outstanding you'd like me to take care of when I'm back Joubu
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13:24 TimothyAlexis    delete_patrons.pl now allows multiple --category_code bug 27050
13:24 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27050 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, timothy_alexis.vass, ASSIGNED , Allow multiple category_codes in delete_patrons.pl
13:25 TimothyAlexis    Needs Sign Off.
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13:27 caroline         cait I have another translation question... I'm translating the MARC framework and I'm wondering what to do with the Obsolete and RLIN fields. They are not used here afaik and I can't find official translation
13:27 caroline         Did you translate them for German?
13:27 tuxayo           hi #koha :)
13:28 caroline         salut tuxayo!
13:29 tuxayo           salut!
13:31 caroline         I think I translated everything that is on www.marc21.ca (fr-CA version of loc.gov/marc), I'll just leave the rest in English I guess
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14:34 cait             caroline: i think not consistently - if it was easy i probably did, but i might just have copied them over
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14:58 Joubu            mtj: are you playing with Jenkins?
14:58 Joubu            Or is Jenkins playing alone?
15:01 tuxayo           One of the 19.05 builds has started with an SCM change, I didn't push anything :o
15:01 tuxayo           Jenkins is mistaken, there is no new commit on 19.05.x
15:15 tuxayo           > Error:  Can't locate Array/Utils.pm
15:15 tuxayo           Hum, it was added a month ago.
15:23 Joubu            tuxayo: not scm change, it's mason "Started by user Mason James"
15:24 Joubu            at least for 19.05_D8/281
15:33 Joubu            caroline: https://koha-community.org/manual/20.11/fr_CA/html/
15:33 Joubu            it says "Koha 20.11 Manual (en)"
15:33 Joubu            why (en)?
15:33 caroline         probably not translated
15:33 caroline         in French it would be Manuel Koha, so Koha Manual is not translated
15:34 caroline         translating the manual is unfortunately not a priority (too many other priorities lol!)
15:35 Joubu            caroline: it's translated nowhere
15:35 Joubu            maybe it's the project's name, that's is not translatable
15:35 Joubu            in that case we should remove the (en)
15:35 caroline         I'll check on pootle
15:35 Joubu            not important anyway :)
15:36 caroline         It's in the strings on Pootle for 20,05 https://translate.koha-community.org/fr_CA/man20.05/translate/#search=Koha%20Manual&sfields=source&unit=14573270&offset=0
15:37 caroline         but maybe it's not a bad idea to remove it... does it bring new information?
15:43 Joubu            will see how it goes translated
16:00 huginn           News from kohagit: Add release notes for Koha 20.11.00 <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=02bc85cbef22a4db7b4a92f1b324c8e4b287ee81>
16:00 huginn           News from kohagit: Translation updates for Koha 20.11.00 <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=373835c1360096ca4f0bfc63e566256adab6bef8>
16:00 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 27108: Add 21.05 release team to teams.yaml <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=adf0293c7bc6b46dbd9c10e86a4684c602b23e16>
16:00 huginn           News from kohagit: Adjust history and contributors list <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=db5da36c9126cbcf7c8482bef3adfe7faa1a4160>
16:00 huginn           News from kohagit: Koha 20.11.00 is here! <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5deae26ae8fa886ea6830f1e7242082e6f7bd38c>
16:00 huginn           News from kohagit: Fix some updatedatabase.pl issues <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b52d2eb09b75a9fd47d83fa64e69c96599e80cc6>
16:00 huginn           News from kohagit: Fix translation issues <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d3acf7bebc0084be622e1f0e1c655523e2ddc1cf>
16:03 tuxayo           Joubu++
16:03 tuxayo           confetti!
16:03 wahanui          o/`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
16:04 reiveune         bye
16:09 ashimema         exciting times :)
16:09 ashimema         Joubu++
16:19 tcohen           Joubu++
16:19 tcohen           confetti!
16:19 wahanui          o/`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
16:20 tcohen           JOubu++
16:46 Joubu            Thanks you all!
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16:46 Joubu            It was an exciting one :)
16:50 ashimema         right.. time for a beer :)
16:50 ashimema         have a great weekend Joubu and all
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17:18 cait             congrats team! confetti!
17:18 cait             sorry, I was so absent
17:19 cait             Joubu++
17:23 tcohen           have a good one, Joubu and ashimema
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17:59 tcohen           :-D
18:13 caroline         have a grest weekend #koha!
18:15 tcohen           same!
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