Time  Nick         Message
22:03 huginn       dcook: The operation succeeded.
22:03 dcook        @later tell ashimema My hope is that my work should be obvious enough not to need extensive documentation, but I suppose documentation would be a good plan. Dev meetings are hard for me due to time zone differences, but maybe I could even do a short video or something if necessary...
22:02 huginn       dcook: The operation succeeded.
22:02 dcook        @later tell ashimema The trees of refactoring are the tough bit. I have been re-thinking that a bit lately...
21:58 huginn       dcook: The operation succeeded.
21:58 dcook        @later tell ashimema Agreed about how switching to PostgreSQL would be a better idea than trying to support both
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19:12 tuxayo       If I just check the message_queue via SQL is that ok?
19:12 tuxayo       >  3) Notice the email comes garbled / double encoded
19:12 huginn       Bug 26948: critical, P5 - low, ---, joonas.kylmala, Needs Signoff , Some Koha Emails are double encoded (HOLD, ODUE, ...)
19:12 tuxayo       https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26948#c3
19:12 tuxayo       Does anyone know how to test emails in Koha?
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17:07 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 22818: Fix TestBuilder.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cdbc04f69d751d2b08dc256d61972330512c3a0d>
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16:37 * tuxayo     feels there might have been a nickname confusion
16:25 cait1        Joubu: happy translating - are you trying to mock me? ;)
16:25 cait1        surprise ;)
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16:14 tuxayo       cait1: ok. I was already planning to send it to you later as you are the last person in the last years to have contributed to the Translating_Koha wikipage ^^
16:11 cait1        had a lovely workshop but can't think now
16:11 cait1        tuxayo: can you remind me when my brain feels... not dead? :)
16:10 cait1        magnuse: even kind of yellow error message, not my installation
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15:58 tuxayo       https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/User:Victor_Grousset_-_tuxayo:Translation#Translation_process
15:58 tuxayo       Anyone to review a "translation guideline" draft? It's about the necessity to always translate also in newer version of Koha to not loose work.
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15:36 ashimema     have a nice break Joubu
15:36 Joubu        I need a break, see you later #koha
15:29 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26988 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Don't load hold pickup locations unless dropdown is selected
15:29 tcohen       bug 26988
15:29 wahanui      Joubu, I didn't have anything matching context
15:29 Joubu        wahanui: forget the context
15:29 wahanui      Joubu: I forgot context
15:29 Joubu        wahanui: forget the context
15:29 tcohen       no
15:29 Joubu        improve the UI?
15:29 wahanui      the context is that I've generally targeted 4:3 though to be honest not thought a great deal about it.. but a few libaries here mentioned in passing that it would be nice to target 16:10 now as that seems to be the prominent screen on the market
15:29 Joubu        tcohen: what's the context?
15:27 ashimema     even!
15:27 ashimema     pretty
15:27 ashimema     prettyi
15:27 ashimema     prty
15:27 ashimema     orty
15:25 tcohen       ashimema Joubu what'ya think https://snipboard.io/8BXx0o.jpg
15:11 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 24083: Required atomic updates & DB update <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=07bc35615649f466674ce2e6f2534d47926b02e8>
15:11 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 24083: Add circ rules management <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d67b2b5d46cef3dc221c05431a5ce5f7d2563cf1>
15:11 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 24083: Add support for unseen_renewals <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8595e80b7858c7eeb7b11a1dd33f338fce12791c>
15:11 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 24083: Add unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b2110746d44861c55714e8bb68ab665247b6cbd8>
15:11 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 24083: (follow-up) Fix params to AddRenewal <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5b80d3ba6532dd0ae911ff4a7ce5f266f30dc6f8>
15:11 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 24083: (follow-up) Include SelfCheckInModule <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e429d90fb3065a7c7c4bd6951ffb9d47135aa5ce>
15:11 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 24083: (follow-up) Squashed follow ups <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6e311a1be124cc93756183aefea7768be74849ad>
15:11 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 24083: (follow-up) Respond to QA feedback <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bbfdc72303a2ebd5130c39c743a2d0040b2c0e2c>
15:11 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 23019: (follow-up) set table name to import_batch_profiles <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2d53ae88b617638215c0e2fafd6e3db1d3b8eb40>
15:11 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 23019: (follow-up) Fix other things <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9f5596afd66b1757092f252a7e9496d125e45315>
15:11 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 23019: (follow-up 2) set table name to import_batch_profiles <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=aa36a4c22f81d2d20fb862baf09cd4121f82afb2>
15:11 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 24083: Delete the new rule when needed <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b2093e41620f92987c5f1a17d8b22597837f66a1>
15:11 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 24083: Swap the column for "Unlimited" handling <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=98f0e5047d8538f31ef9854395b5979e815f1bfb>
15:11 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 26987: (bug 23463 follow-up) Fix serial receipt if makePreviousSerialAvailable <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dc465736cd14a860ffbda1571012fe94fb1e65fa>
15:11 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 23019: (follow-up) Fix test permissions and API definition bugs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6853a2d7f6bf8795b204beeeaa65a8eb61f09308>
15:10 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 24083: (follow-up) Make requested changes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=887022e0d23050d586970ef306df0d5630e1dd65>
15:10 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 24083: DBIC schema changes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fb28f35021247fbfdee428253ee2a557cac90d23>
15:10 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 24083: Compiled CSS <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=031ce225455decf24dbff53670136fdae49cf7c1>
15:10 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 23019: DBRev 20.06.00.068 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6adc4514c69a5fa95ff54caf73d2542e97769863>
15:10 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 24083: DBRev 20.06.00.069 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f11484ae7f43092352f7b9376e86328e9fd7f66d>
15:08 Joubu        ok, last bit for 20.11
15:03 ashimema     :)
15:03 tcohen       haha
15:03 Joubu        ok, that's not related then. Sorry for the noise
15:03 tcohen       amoyano as my JavaScript guru is checking WTF is going on
15:03 tcohen       I'm playing with a select2 implementation
15:03 tcohen       amoyano and I are looking at it
15:02 Joubu        ashimema: he is saying it works under Chrome but FF
15:02 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26988 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Don't load hold pickup locations unless dropdown is selected
15:02 Joubu        (no idea if it's related I did not check the code, but sounds familiar)
15:02 ashimema     bug 26988
15:01 Joubu        he faced that few days ago
15:01 Joubu        tcohen: 26988 - ask ashimema!
14:13 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26893 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , New version of JSON::Validator (D11) break our REST API routes
14:13 magnuse      bug 26893
14:01 magnuse      cait1: doesn't work = zero hits?
14:00 Joubu        cait1: looks ok for me on master
14:00 ashimema     I don't think that's likely to happen prior to release
14:00 ashimema     hmm..
13:59 Joubu        ashimema: it needs to be fixed at code level IMO
13:57 cait1        kidclamp: maybe?
13:57 cait1        like au:zanker - doesn't work, but as soon as you add a word or another term with operators all works perfectly
13:56 cait1        hm we are seeing issues with search in elastic with 19.05 that you can't search for a single term
13:39 huginn       ashimema: The operation succeeded.
13:39 ashimema     @later tell mtj any thought on bug 26893
13:01 tuxayo       hi #koha :)
12:49 ashimema     aha, thanks for that heads up
12:29 tcohen       today is veteran's day in the US, expect delays in responses
11:56 oleonard     I can try!
11:30 Joubu        :)
11:30 Joubu        oleonard: could you have a try to fix it?
11:28 oleonard     It is broken in Safari on macOS
11:28 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7882 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maryse.simard, Pushed to oldstable , Add ability to move and reorder fields and subfields in MARC editor
11:28 oleonard     Joubu: I can confirm Bug 7882 comment 71
11:21 * ashimema   tells kidclamp
11:20 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26963 major, P3, ---, nick, Signed Off , Koha::Template::Plugin::Branches::pickup_locations is very inefficient, causing timeouts on records with large numbers of holds/items
11:20 ashimema     OK.. so I think my golfing expedition on bug 26963 was worthwhile then.. I still think I need to put the actual golfing patches in a new bug.. but doing it meant I understood the code better and have uncovered a bug :)
11:20 ashimema     aha..
11:12 Joubu        I don't think so
11:10 ashimema     is ccode a required field for items?
11:09 ashimema     hmm
11:02 ashimema     morning
11:01 tcohen       morning
10:04 huginn       Joubu: The operation succeeded.
10:04 Joubu        @later tell caroline wrong bug number! it was 12446
09:48 wahanui      Joubu: I forgot hi
09:48 Joubu        wahanui: forget hi
09:48 wahanui      it has been said that hi is anyone around today?
09:48 Joubu        inlibro: hi!?
09:35 huginn       Joubu: The operation succeeded.
09:35 Joubu        @later tell lukeG Hi Lucas, are you on macOS? If so, could you have a look at bug 7882 comment 71?
09:34 Joubu        hi cait1
09:34 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7882 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maryse.simard, Pushed to oldstable , Add ability to move and reorder fields and subfields in MARC editor
09:34 Joubu        MacOS user? We need you on bug 7882 (comment 71)
09:33 cait1        good morning #koha people
09:19 huginn       magnuse: The operation succeeded.
09:19 magnuse      @later tell oleonard can you still reproduce the problem on bug 22248?
08:05 Joubu        great, good to hear :)
08:02 jonrog       Joubu: Thanks for the reply! when i tried the upgrade on our test-environment i changed it to "deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha 20.05 main bionic" and then ran "apt upgrade", it seemed to work without any issues
07:56 Joubu        Hi jonrog, yes see https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Debian#Follow_a_codename_.28version_number.29:_20.05.2C_19.11.2C_19.05
07:54 jonrog       Good morning! When upgrading on Ubuntu using APT (18.11 -> 20.05), is there anything else then change the APT-repository and run apt upgrade that I need to do?
07:49 ashimema     I like postgres.. but I'm not the biggest fan of trying to be database agnostic.. if we really want to support Of, personally I'd rather we switched than just prevent ourselves from ysu g the best features of any db
07:39 magnuse      \o/
07:39 huginn       Joubu: The operation succeeded.
07:39 Joubu        @later tell caroline do you think Maryse will have time to answer on bug 12446 today? (it's string freeze!)
07:30 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7365 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Koha should support PostgreSQL
07:30 Joubu        bug 7365
07:30 Joubu        and hi #koha ;)
07:30 Joubu        now we have DBIC to answer the need, but we are not there yet
07:29 Joubu        dcook: I did not succeed Postgres compat because of the lack of interest from other community members
07:23 ashimema     'tis hard though.. no-one funds this approach
07:23 ashimema     Instead of just piling stuff on top of already fragile controller code.
07:22 ashimema     That pretty much how I spend my days... So many of my bugs end up as trees full of refactoring now..
07:21 ashimema     The progress to moving away from CGI and logic heavy controller scripts is slow going.. but we are trying
07:21 * ashimema   would love to start coding up non-blocking mojo based controllers
07:20 ashimema     Sounds interesting
07:20 ashimema     Perhaps organising a meeting of Devs to showcase what you've done, how it works and what advantages it brings too.
07:20 ashimema     Documentation will be key in your plans dcook
03:46 dcook        then good night tuxayo :D
03:23 tuxayo       yep
03:22 dcook        Done for the day?
03:21 tuxayo       see ya o/
03:17 dcook        That's good :)
03:17 wahanui      o/`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
03:17 tuxayo       confetti!
03:17 dcook        :D
03:17 tuxayo       Started Koha Task Queue Worker.
03:17 tuxayo       dcook: «active (running)»
03:12 tuxayo       just wait the devbox to provision (if that's the right term)
03:12 tuxayo       Ok, I'll have the right version now after tweaking user.yml
03:02 dcook        wiktionary is wonderful
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02:56 wahanui      Congratulations!
02:56 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
02:19 tuxayo       thanks wiktionary
02:19 tuxayo       enjoy your meal!
02:18 tuxayo       lol
02:18 * dcook      grabs foooood
02:18 dcook        merci quand même!
02:17 dcook        I haven't heard that literal translation in a long time
02:17 dcook        hehe thanks
02:17 tuxayo       good appetite!
02:16 * dcook      is also going to head off for lunch ina  minute
02:15 dcook        Interesting... I'll just keep this in draft then I guess
02:15 tuxayo       I'll try that
02:15 tuxayo       The custom repo is koha-staging
02:15 tuxayo       # koha_use_custom_repo: no
02:15 tuxayo       user.yml:
02:13 dcook        I'll send out an email
02:13 dcook        Yeah looks like different repos
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02:12 dcook        That's from KTD
02:12 dcook        deb [trusted=yes] http://debian.koha-community.org/koha-staging dev main stretch
02:12 tuxayo       I did the update
02:12 dcook        seems not
02:12 tuxayo       https://copycat.drycat.fr/?f5a61dbd2d53832d#46Ui14eC1NdtaoYNd73SW7HXusFbYYB6jHDhVuWFmxM2
02:12 tuxayo       > what's in /usr/share/koha/bin?
02:12 tuxayo       Isn't the repo the same?
02:11 dcook        Ah yeah kohadevbox is definitely quite old..
02:11 dcook        KTD is using 20.06.00-49~git+20201013020020
02:11 dcook        Or rather the comment is old..
02:11 dcook        2020072804
02:11 dcook        That's actually really old
02:11 dcook        Oh wait..
02:11 tuxayo       koha-common is already the newest version
02:10 dcook        hmm what's in /usr/share/koha/bin?
02:10 tuxayo       20.06.00-16~git+2020072804
02:10 dcook        maybe try a "apt-get update" and "apt-get install koha-common"...
02:10 dcook        Hmm weird
02:10 dcook        You could also do "dpkg -l koha-common"
02:10 tuxayo       deb [trusted=yes] http://debian.koha-community.org/koha unstable main
02:09 dcook        Maybe this is a case of kohadevbox and KTD being configured differently..
02:09 dcook        Hmm what's in... /etc/apt/sources.d/koha.list or whatever the list file is..
02:08 tuxayo       It's fresh and the devbox repo up to date.
02:08 dcook        (in theory)
02:08 dcook        It should install koha-common from master which should have /usr/share/koha/bin/background_jobs_worker.pl
02:07 dcook        or rather it might be outdated
02:07 dcook        It could be that your kohadevbox hasn't been set up right
02:07 dcook        Ah, so that's the git version
02:07 tuxayo       /home/vagrant/kohaclone/blib/SCRIPT_NONDEV_DIR/background_jobs_worker.pl
02:07 tuxayo       /home/vagrant/kohaclone/misc/background_jobs_worker.pl
02:07 tuxayo       find / -name background_jobs_worker.pl
02:06 dcook        I'm using a slightly different version in prod now
02:05 dcook        It should "just work"
02:05 dcook        Nah, it shouldn't be relevant
02:05 tuxayo       Should I also do the test plan of the first patch before?
02:04 dcook        /usr/share/koha/bin/background_jobs_worker.pl
02:04 dcook        root@kohadevbox:koha(bug_26363)$ ls /usr/share/koha/bin/background_jobs_worker.pl
02:04 tuxayo       Wait
02:04 dcook        That's odd..
02:03 tuxayo       So the unit fails
02:03 dcook        Hmm
02:03 tuxayo       dcook: I might have missed something, background_jobs_worker.pl isn't in /usr/share/koha/bin/
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01:17 dcook        Ah great :)
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01:06 tuxayo       (when I devbox will actuall start ^^")
01:06 tuxayo       yes, it was clear that NAME was a variable. So I'll do that
01:04 dcook        You'll probably want "systemctl start koha-worker@kohadev.service"
01:04 dcook        I think I provided an updated test plan
01:04 tuxayo       should I just run systemctl start koha-worker@NAME.service and see that there is no error? And check the process running.
01:04 tuxayo       dcook to test «Provide a systemd unit file for koha-worker in package installs»
00:37 dcook        But the rewrite will be great
00:37 dcook        Actually, in that case, I also need to rewrite the Perl module because it doesn't work with Mojolicious due to Mojolicious's non-blocking design
00:36 dcook        I already locally proved my Mojolicious replacement for export.pl but it's not polished enough yet
00:36 dcook        So we have to use something else
00:36 dcook        Really there's no workaround due to Plack::App::Cgibin being used
00:35 dcook        They're not really robust enough
00:35 dcook        Oh yeah I didn't like frido's changes there
00:34 dcook        And I should really start posting patches soon so that people can see what I'm doing..
00:34 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17240 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, In Discussion , Allow processes that rely on background jobs run in Plack mode
00:34 tuxayo       bug 17240
00:34 tuxayo       https://git.biblibre.com/biblibre/kohac/commit/cc0babf449c0b7df920a136c40547a691f48f804
00:34 tuxayo       Maybe for useful:
00:34 dcook        Well I'll keep Frido in mind
00:32 tuxayo       https://git.biblibre.com/biblibre/kohac/commit/3a4ee6c5629b0ec4f2db4331cfd0b887d3048646
00:32 tuxayo       use constant BYTES_DIGEST => 4294967296;
00:32 tuxayo       dcook: meh
00:31 tuxayo       https://git.biblibre.com/biblibre/kohac/commits/branch/19.11/biblibre-min1
00:31 tuxayo       dcook: I'll check the "biblibre" branch. Currently 19.11.09 + patches that they use everywhere. That's the interesting stuff.
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00:26 dcook        Do you have a link for that?
00:26 dcook        :o
00:26 tuxayo       One is to fix export.pl ^^
00:26 dcook        I'll look
00:26 dcook        I don't know if I've seen..
00:26 dcook        Or rather heard about
00:26 dcook        Yeah I've seen some of the nginx stuff
00:26 tuxayo       To use nginx yes, a few bugs blocked in bugzilla ^^
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00:25 tuxayo       I dont think BibLibre has really specific stuff to use LXD
00:25 tuxayo       > frido holding out
00:24 dcook        Inertia.. status quo..
00:23 dcook        Motivation... maybe more like incentive or "drivers"
00:23 dcook        frido holding out on me all this time... heh
00:23 dcook        I have been thinking about doing more locally in containers, but just haven't had the motivation yet
00:23 tuxayo       Indeed, maybe they can help on some things. frido is the right person to talk about that ^^
00:21 dcook        Nevermind me. They should be spearheading more container developments :p heh
00:21 dcook        Whaat? Really?
00:21 dcook        :o
00:21 tuxayo       Biblibre is running in 97% LXD containers
00:21 tuxayo       > but I don't think anyone is running in Docker
00:21 dcook        The koha-common package is very opinionated...
00:20 dcook        I think cait still uses kohadevbox
00:20 tuxayo       I still have my quick guide for a devbox so I could test it that way is no one is around with a devbox.
00:20 dcook        For things like Kong, Keycloak, uWSGI, I've had to write my own
00:20 dcook        I think a lot of open source software doesn't actually provide init scripts anymore
00:20 dcook        I wonder a bit if the lack of an init system in Docker means that we shouldn't bother with the systemd unit files... but I don't think anyone is running in Docker and if they were running in Docker we'd do it differently anyway..
00:19 dcook        Hehe cool
00:18 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26363 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Provide a systemd unit file for background_jobs_worker
00:18 tuxayo       The easy patch of bug 26363 has been signed off :P
00:18 dcook        Hehe me too
00:13 tuxayo       I hope your company gets rich an you could have more time for all this :P
00:12 * dcook      is such a nerd
00:12 dcook        I'm just thinking about plugins that insert modules at the start of @INC... you could override default Koha controllers..
00:11 dcook        Well not core modules. Third party modules. But CPAN  modules.
00:11 dcook        (Of course, that makes for a nightmare migration path)
00:11 dcook        I took over a Perl project years ago where core modules were customized that way
00:10 dcook        When things are module based, all you need to do is make sure that your desired/customized module is found first in @INC...
00:10 dcook        Well making it easier to make customizations
00:10 dcook        I was just thinking how it could be nice to..
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00:08 dcook        Hmm that randomly gave me a thought..
00:07 dcook        But maybe that would make me a bad RM
00:07 dcook        And be more selective
00:07 dcook        Actually, if I were RM, I probably would slow down the queues..
00:07 tuxayo       lol
00:07 tuxayo       Doing an RFC to try to agree on that direct would help maybe
00:07 dcook        heh
00:07 * dcook      would rule with an iron fist
00:07 dcook        mmm true
00:07 dcook        Especially if mistakes are just made in individual controllers..
00:07 tuxayo       To do the actual migration work, being RM might not help due to the additional work
00:06 dcook        Plus, if I just build a solid core from the beginning... then it should be OK
00:06 dcook        But I don't have the time for it :(
00:06 dcook        Of course, I could become Release Manager to try to mitigate that in the beginning..
00:06 dcook        Or that they'll make the same mistakes that we've made before
00:06 dcook        Actually, one fear I have is that I'll try to implement all this but then other people won't follow the vision heh
00:05 tuxayo       The third decade of Koha looks great :D
00:05 tuxayo       dcook++
00:05 dcook        Then we're "cooking with gas" as they say in North America
00:05 dcook        I just need to make a Koha::Template module and have it take into account all the awful stuff we do in C4::Templates heh
00:04 dcook        I'm actually not that far from fixing the View stuff I mentioned before
00:04 dcook        But that's future talk heh
00:03 dcook        Which would make for some very powerful plugins I reckon
00:03 dcook        But we could do it for the HTML interface too
00:03 dcook        I mean we already do it for the REST API
00:03 dcook        I've been thinking a bit too about how we could potentially inject controllers via plugins as well..
00:01 dcook        We already kind of have that in parts of Koha, but we need to really embrace it
00:01 tuxayo       yes!
00:01 dcook        And that way you get that DRY (do not repeat yourself) and code reuse
00:00 dcook        Yep
00:00 tuxayo       Right, HTML or REST stuff, that's all
00:00 dcook        The business logic should be int he model
00:00 dcook        The only logic that should be in the controller should be related to input/output