Time Nick Message 00:14 dcook @later tell Joubu I wasn't around at that time. I've been trying to finish up on time lately heh. 00:14 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded. 00:18 oleonard Sorry cait I was afk. My Open Library patch does contain a string change. 00:21 cait I didn't spot where the text was coming from at first glance 00:21 cait that's why the question, but I am not here really, so it has to wait 00:22 oleonard Me neither :) 00:41 dcook @later tell Joubu I'm really keen for us to move forward on Bug 25026 00:41 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded. 00:42 dcook Dang missed both people by af ew minutes 01:43 aleisha hi! does anyone know how I can access a list of authorised values in an xslt file? 01:43 aleisha sorry in an XML file 03:43 dcook aleisha: Still around? 03:43 dcook also tfw you know there's a bug report for what you want but you're trying to remember how to find it.. 03:43 dcook Muaha found it.. 05:42 fridolin hi 07:09 magnuse \o/ 07:38 pastebot "davidnind" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "alexbuckley: for bug 25560 one test failure for prove -v t/db_dependent/Circulation/issue.t" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/26003 07:38 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25560 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alexbuckley, Needs Signoff , Exclude itemtypes from UpdateNotForLoanStatusOnCheckin 07:43 davidnind alexbuckley: if I don't change any of the system preferences as per the test plan, then all the tests pass (that is, as if I had just applied the patches, updated the database, but hadn't walked through the test plan) 07:50 ashimema Bug 25026 07:50 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25026 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , RaiseError must be set for the UI 07:50 ashimema Mornin' #koha 07:59 alex_a Bonjour 08:32 ashimema cait around? 08:58 ashimema yeay.. I'm back to having half the QA of cait this morning :) 09:07 magnuse ashimema++ 09:07 magnuse can't ask more than that ;-) 09:07 ashimema hehe 09:07 ashimema she's a hard target 09:07 magnuse indeed 09:22 magnuse is there a clever way to search for patrons by (unique) patron attributes? 09:25 magnuse in code, i mean 09:30 magnuse ah filter_by_attribute_value 09:32 ashimema :) 10:01 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26806: Remove 1 remaining occurrence of jquery.checkboxes.min.js <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fa3829b120c1909dd1a1408392c3f27479779b03> 10:01 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26889: Remove extra space from "Damaged :" in item search <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d0a42b7ed53fd043c9a96817f91416d1cfe7a6c9> 10:01 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26881: Remove period on limit to available items on opac <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9be2c3639b28b8820e67911f88d642992cd1f7d9> 10:01 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26880: Add explanatory text to add course reserve pages <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=42060794fc48dfe649a1a8aba1d7db2e7ff1c09d> 10:01 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26828: Set focus for cursor to current password field when updating in the OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=27735ed40deaf438e622acee0d41147bdbe2d5e1> 10:01 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26826: Set focus for cursor to name input box when creating a new list <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7815e37258498bf4034c738af17c64bf5941eff5> 10:01 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26830: Set focus for cursor to name input box when creating a new list in the... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b127f862ee991aefba80f9d7238615a93953370b> 10:01 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26806: Remove the jquery.checkboxes plugin from the staff client <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b3b87dc7d909997f0af47e02462e87eae2aee308> 10:01 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26805: Remove remaining instances of jquery.checkboxes plugin from the OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8220aa14f92ecae8f55138e7570fcb41a1ad1872> 10:01 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26800: Remove the use of jquery.checkboxes plugin from checkout page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=93176f9e613175244504afeae6c1a902c6d52e33> 10:01 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26799: Remove the use of jquery.checkboxes plugin from patron payment page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=689f1f9b1f5f53c18c2a351f0fb2195631749de6> 10:01 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26798: Remove the use of jquery.checkboxes plugin from patron detail page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=296189dc6c92aa691c96ee3012834cd83990aca5> 10:01 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26795: Remove the use of jquery.checkboxes plugin from ILL pages <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=919ea33639714dd6a0d5e0550af2dda6ad6e687e> 10:01 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26769: Remove the use of jquery.checkboxes plugin from staff interface search... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bc1152bf3c6fefdbfa72dab8dbbd5c1307183920> 10:01 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26767: Remove the use of jquery.checkboxes plugin from duplicate orders template <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=231f99e3e1d892864aebab229d0c312a2f31182c> 10:01 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26768: Remove the use of jquery.checkboxes plugin from library transfer limits... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=72842e85dd60d216c9b929e819ff360079a54383> 10:01 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26753: Set focus for cursor to password field on Overdrive login popup on OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b08444d31c663345d04011c061585c53d99076c5> 10:01 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26694: Set focus for cursor to search input box on guarantor_search.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ff52478d09b522974c436904b0145bab83d88127> 10:01 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26695: Add modal "shown" event to set cursor focus <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7ea60c0bd94cbbcd22e88e59d95131078aa2bc50> 10:01 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26712: Set focus for cursor to basket name input box on basketheader.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=74aba6abb57421a8c333974d3e5a48a9c46381ea> 10:16 cait1 ah the sound of pushed patches again 10:17 cait1 ashimema: you called for me? 10:17 ashimema :) 10:17 ashimema I did.. 10:17 ashimema but I forget why now 10:17 ashimema ah.. I think it was the <p/> bug 10:17 ashimema I've commented on the bug 10:17 ashimema I should probably have failed it rather than just comment 10:18 ashimema I'm bad at that.. I don't like failing people so nicely ask for fixes often instead. 10:28 cait1 just fail me :) 10:28 cait1 or do a follow-up 10:28 ashimema hehe 10:51 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1484: UNSTABLE in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1484/ 10:52 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #429: SUCCESS in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/429/ 10:52 severine_q hello #koha ! 10:52 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U20 build #131: SUCCESS in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U20/131/ 11:02 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 11:02 wahanui Congratulations! 11:02 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #450: FIXED in 1 hr 0 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/450/ 11:05 tuxayo Hi #koha o/ 11:10 kohaputti hmm, the elasticsearch searches don't seem to find anything with "Tutki ja kirjoita 2009" (without quotes) but if the search is "Tutki ja kirjoita AND 2009" then it finds. The title field here is "Tutki ja kirjoita" 11:10 kohaputti I wonder if the searches should by default insert AND on every whitespace 11:11 kohaputti like "Tutki AND ja AND kirjoita AND 2009" 11:12 kohaputti the current default is like searching with ""Tutki ja kirjoita 2009"" (meaning the words should all appear in that order 11:13 tuxayo Right I didn't see the difference 11:13 tuxayo But is that an order problem in your case kohaputti ? 11:13 ashimema both are without quotes above right? 11:14 kohaputti yes, the 2009 comes from a different search field and is not coming directly after the title field 11:14 kohaputti ashimema, yes without quotes 11:14 tuxayo Nevermind, it's not about order, the AND is just to get from another search field 11:15 ashimema bowing out.. I don't know enough about ES yet to really comment 11:15 ashimema I would have expected your first example to 'just work' as is. 11:16 kohaputti we backported the elasticsearch patches like year or two ago to and then this search worked as if there was AND at every whitespace 11:16 kohaputti so maybe this is some recent change in master 11:16 kohaputti more likely a bug 11:16 ashimema yeah.. I'm sure that's our experience too 11:16 ashimema so maybe a recent change 11:17 ashimema asking kidclamp or ere would be your best bet 11:18 tuxayo Does anyone know between 11:18 tuxayo Koha::CirculationRules->set_rule and 11:18 tuxayo Koha::CirculationRules->set_rules 11:18 tuxayo If one is to be prefered? It could be that set_rule is to maintain compatibilty with pre bug 18936 code 11:18 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18936 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, Move issuingrules into circulation_rules 11:18 tuxayo https://copycat.drycat.fr/?9b71cbc102cf67af#4dNeQTyVDMUAgcQRd3cNnCzmLKN4CvTy4dnbF1Zzb6va 11:20 Joubu set_rule is to set 1 rule, set_rules is to set several rules, applying on the same (library, category, itemtype) 11:20 ashimema what he said ;) 11:21 Joubu kohaputti: did you track down what is the query we send to ES? 11:22 tuxayo Does set_rules replaces the rules? (removes the unmentioned ones) of just add to the set? 11:23 * tuxayo remembers that there might be a doc for the subroutines 11:23 kohaputti Joubu: 11:23 kohaputti 'default_operator' => 'AND', 11:23 kohaputti 'query' => '(Tutki* ja* kirjoita* 2009*)', 11:24 Joubu looks like there are unwanted parenthesis 11:25 kohaputti could be, I know there is some processing happening regarding parentheses 11:26 tuxayo Sorry that I forgot to check the doc, there is not but the code is short and simple enough. It adds the rules. Thanks Joubu and ashimema :) 11:26 ashimema no worries at all 11:27 * ashimema often asks silly questions 11:28 Joubu bug 23521: 11:28 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23521 normal, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Pushed to stable , ES 6 - limit terms with many words can make the search inaccurate 11:28 kohaputti This issue with elasticsearch could be also happening with some setting, it has been quite delicate process to set all the right values to sysprefs because errors happen very easily if they are not right 11:29 kohaputti (i'm also having a bigger project fixing all the ES search issues and errors) 11:29 ashimema I had hoped we'd resolved the configuration delicacies with ES 11:29 ashimema brb.. meeting time 11:29 Joubu tuxayo: IIRC it will update the existing one(s) 11:29 Joubu or adds if none existed 11:29 tuxayo yep! 11:35 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10_Deps build #124: SUCCESS in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10_Deps/124/ 11:39 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 11:39 wahanui Congratulations! 11:39 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #934: FIXED in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/934/ 11:42 * cait1 sees lots of bug mails 11:42 * cait1 wonders if ashimema failed ALL her patches 11:42 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #393: SUCCESS in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/393/ 11:43 cait1 what I have been wondering... is there a nice way to get the error stack to displayon a normal package installation? (instead of the non-descriptive nternal error) 11:43 cait1 i know the dev installatons do it, but not sure what the trigger is 11:43 cait1 and if it can work for package test installations 11:58 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U16 build #116: SUCCESS in 56 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U16/116/ 12:06 cait ashimema: commented on the patch with some more info, trying to sway your opinion :) 12:20 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11 build #129: STILL UNSTABLE in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11/129/ 12:25 Joubu cait: koha-plack needs to be run with DEV_INSTALL=1 12:25 cait can this be done safely for a demo/test installation? 12:26 cait we use it for it for demos and currently for 20.05 testing 12:27 cait and we can't get to the logs easily, so this would make my life a lot easier 12:30 tcohen morning 12:31 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U2010 build #37: UNSTABLE in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U2010/37/ 12:50 cait1 morning tcohen :) 12:51 tcohen hi cait1 13:01 Joubu cait1: if it's a demo/test install it will be safe, yes :) 13:03 cait1 Joubu: thx, I have suggested that now to my sysadmins :) 13:06 cait1 MarkHofstetter: let me know once you registered for the wiki 13:06 cait1 I'll moderate it then 13:06 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11 build #130: STILL UNSTABLE in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11/130/ 13:09 domm is this: https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker a good template for creating a docker-compose setup for local dev? 13:10 tuxayo domm: it's already a docker-compose setup for local dev 13:11 tuxayo hi :) 13:11 tuxayo Is there something different from it that you need? 13:16 domm well, it says it's for running tests (which yes, implies local dev) 13:16 domm but I haven't tried it yet (after we have already spend some time coming up with our own docker-compose.yml) 13:16 domm which is not working good enough 13:16 Joubu domm: most of Koha devs here are using it 13:17 Joubu for dev purpose :) 13:17 domm perfect :-) 13:17 domm then I'll give it a spin 13:17 domm BTW, I'm just starting with Koha, working together with MarkHofstetter 13:18 Joubu welcome then :) Let us know if you face any issues or have questions! 13:28 magnuse domm++ 13:43 cait1 tcohen: told you we should update the descriptions ;) 13:43 tcohen ? 13:43 tcohen context please!!! 13:43 cait1 we recently talked about the gitlab description for koha-testing-docker on IRC 13:44 tcohen AH 13:44 cait1 and I think you or ashimema volunteered to update :) 13:57 tuxayo domm: welcome to both of you :) 13:57 domm thx! 13:58 domm We are working on a project to move the "Steiermärkische Landesbibliothek" to koha 13:59 domm i.e. the library of a state (Styria) of Austria 14:00 domm Maybe some of you know me from various Perl conferences / workshops in and around Europe 14:09 tuxayo domm: yay! :D 14:09 cait1 kohaputti: I really believe sometimes better than before is good enough 14:10 kohaputti in this particular case I think this would have created a new hidden problem, there won't be any errors about "html bloat" 14:11 cait1 we are never going to systematically fix html bloat 14:11 ashimema cait++ 14:11 cait1 it's just too easy to use a br or p 14:11 kohaputti cait1, correct html tags are important for screenreaders, etc. 14:11 cait1 that's true 14:11 cait1 but i think a broken tag will cause more issues than an additional br 14:12 cait1 or a misused paragraph 14:13 kohaputti cait1, maybe someone else will tackle the issue, it should not be more than 5 min work but I'm too lazy to do it now xD Just happened to see the discussion 14:13 cait1 oleonard: would you inclined tohelp out? not sure if we have standard for stuff like this with CSS 14:13 ashimema hi 14:14 tuxayo QA question: should patches that add new strings to a template must have in the test plan the update of the .po and translating it? 14:15 ashimema haha.. that is a good question 14:15 kohaputti cait1, I'm working on now another bug so maybe after I'm done with that I could look into this aswell, but that might be tomorrow. 14:15 cait1 kohaputti: as I copied what was in the template already it might turn into more work fast, rewriting more of the templates in question 14:15 ashimema not strictly.. but if they're bugs that specifically add strings to ensure they are translatable then I would say yes 14:15 ashimema there's a lovely test plan written by caroline on one of my bugs for it now.. 14:15 ashimema I failed miserably to work out how to write a test plan for it.. 14:16 kohaputti cait1, that message was for tuxayo ? 14:16 cait1 oh yes 14:16 cait1 sorry phone call 14:16 * ashimema is confused.. too many cross conversations suddently :P 14:17 kohaputti :D 14:18 ashimema sorry cait1, I didn't mean to throw spanners into your </p> bug 14:19 * cait1 sulks ;) 14:19 ashimema I agree with it in principle.. also.. I learnt something.. I had no idea unclosed paragraphs were allowed now.. lol 14:19 ashimema kinda feels dirty to me to have them still.. but that's opinion so shouldn't come into it here. 14:20 Joubu https://snipboard.io/4Pae9H.jpg - do we need the final dot in the last line? 14:20 tuxayo cait1: «as I copied what was in the template already» I don't get it 14:23 cait1 tuxayo: I think I looked aroudn and just reused what was already used, but i have to take another closer look 14:23 tcohen next meeting? 14:23 wahanui next meeting is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Next_IRC_meetings 14:25 cait1 Joubu: i think it would look better without 14:25 tuxayo cait1: maybe there is a confusion, I'm also working on patch that add strings and was wondering about the test plan. It's about a modal that contains around 20 strings. 14:26 tuxayo bug 23732 14:26 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23732 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, arthur.suzuki, Patch doesn't apply , Hold rules checker: show matched rules and syspref values to help understand why a hold is possible or not 14:27 tuxayo Most work in Reserves.pm but in the end, there is a modal with some info 14:28 Joubu thx cait 14:32 cait1 tuxayo: never mind 14:36 cait1 tuxayo: the bug we were discussing is about <p/> appearing in the templates - that tag doesn't exist, so I was trying to clean it up some. In general some should be removed and replaced with CSS - but as I was not sure how we usually handle this I only fixed the tags. We are agueing about that :) 14:37 tuxayo ^^ 14:37 domm any hints on how I can install a dump of a live koha DB into the koha-testing-docker container? 14:39 Joubu sample data is inserted automatically 14:40 domm yes, but I'd like to work on the actual config (and data!) we have stored in our DB 14:40 Joubu ho right, then you can drop the database, recreate it then load your dump 14:40 tuxayo domm: the koha source code is accessible from the container so there you can put quickly and dirty you .sql dump and insert it 14:41 Joubu `restart_all` and you will get the webinstaller (if you are running master) 14:41 domm ah, ok, so I put MY dump into the koha source, and the testing container will use it 14:41 tuxayo *your sql dump 14:42 tuxayo (I fixed a typo of mine) 14:42 Joubu domm: nope. There is no way to docker-compose up and have the container with other data than the sample ones 14:42 Joubu domm: you have to manually insert your sql dump 14:42 tuxayo domm: let me find how to connect to the from the main container 14:43 domm ok, so in the container, do dropdb, and create a fresh import 14:43 domm and as I'm using a bind-mount for mysql-data, I won't have to do that every time I start the container 14:44 Joubu I don't think it will work unfortunaly. The init process will create the DB and insert the data 14:45 Joubu that will make startup to fail 14:45 tuxayo Joubu: starting with persistence (kp) will work right? 14:46 tuxayo oops, I forgot were I found how to access the DB from the koha container >< 14:47 Joubu tuxayo: maybe it will, needs to be confirmed 14:47 domm I use docker-compose to exec bash in the mysql service 14:47 domm ok, so I'll give this a try :-) 14:48 domm but I'll have to stop my fingers from trying postgres commands on mysql... 14:48 Joubu tuxayo: from the koha container you can specify the host, user and pwd 14:48 tuxayo he he 14:48 Joubu mysql -h db -u root -ppassword 14:48 Joubu alias postgres=mysql :D 14:49 tuxayo lol 14:49 domm Joubu: I'm afraid that won't be enough :-) 14:49 Joubu will certainly be worst! 14:50 ashimema welcome aboard domm :) 14:50 ashimema was so in my own world there I missed we had a new face.. 14:51 tuxayo > mysql -h db -u root -ppassword 14:51 tuxayo great, it's as simple as that 14:52 cait1 :) 14:57 domm yes, docker-compose inter-service networking is rather nice :-) 15:05 cait1 updated bug 26727 to default asignee oleonard - removing now 15:05 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26727 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Fix <p/> appearing in the templates 16:15 domm ok, I cannot get koha-testing-docker running with a persistent DB (i.e. -f docker-compose.persistent.yml ) 16:15 domm I get either "User kohadev-koha already exists" or "Database not empty" 16:16 domm may I ask, what dockerfile is this basend on? I assume on of those: https://hub.docker.com/r/koha/koha-testing/tags 16:18 ashimema https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker/-/tree/master/dists 16:19 ashimema each dist has it's own Dockerfile 16:19 ashimema I can't remember all the gory details I have to admit 16:19 ashimema they're all there to see in the repo though. 16:19 ashimema we then use trigger a build on the git push which uses them to build images that are pushed to dockerhub.. I think 16:19 ashimema tcohen it the man 16:20 domm ashimema: ah, ok, yes, definitly easier to read there than on dockerhub (and obviously also in the checkout..) 16:20 tcohen dom 16:20 ashimema :) 16:20 tcohen domm what's your timezone? 16:20 ashimema yeay, tcohen is around 16:21 ashimema as if by magic 16:21 tcohen I'm just leaving, so want to be around when they are 16:21 ashimema your Austria aren't you domm? 16:21 domm yes 16:21 tcohen ping you later or tomorrow morning 16:22 domm it's 17:30 here, so I'll stop in a few minutes :-) 16:22 tcohen we need better docs for sure 16:22 ashimema so UTC +1 16:22 tcohen tomorrow then 16:22 domm perfect 16:22 tcohen bye! 16:22 ashimema :) 16:22 domm (I'm running my weechat in tmux, so I'll be in the channel 24/7) 16:23 ashimema sorry I'm not so much help domm.. I can do most things I need to do in docker.. but it tends to be a bit of a stumbling around to make it work.. I'm not confident enough yet to really help others beyond the very basics ;) 16:23 domm I've been using docker/docker-compose quite a lot in the last 2 years, and still not feel very confident :-( 16:24 domm (but then I'm more of a dev than on ops guy..) 16:24 ashimema that's very much the same position I'm in 16:24 ashimema :) 17:18 ashimema @later tell Joubu I'm happy with bug 26172 followup 17:18 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded. 17:28 cait1 domm: tochen is in Argentina :) 17:29 mtj hey folks 17:29 mtj we need to decide if rabbit-mq is 'recommends' or 'suggested' in the koha-common package 17:29 mtj both options allow rmq to be uninstalled - each option has some differences 17:29 mtj 1/ 'recommends' means rmq is installed by default, and can be removed later. this is easier for users to upgrade 17:29 mtj 2/ 'suggested' means rmq needs to be manually installed before koha-common, so introduces an extra required step for upgrade/install 17:29 mtj i think suggested might be the 'correct' option, even tho it adds an extra step for upgrades 17:29 mtj any options..? ^ 17:31 cait1 sorry, no real help there 17:32 mtj bug 26741 tracks the issue 17:32 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26741 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, In Discussion , Make rabbitmq-server a 'recommended' package 17:32 mtj hiya cait1, np :) 17:46 oleonard o/ 18:04 tcohen Joubu does Koha work without RabbitMQ at all? 18:08 mtj tcohen: hmm, i think no 18:08 tcohen so we need the package that installs it all 18:09 tcohen probably make koha-common a meta.package that pulls koha-core + rabbitmq 18:15 tcohen do we aim to have a 'koha' package? 18:16 tcohen I regret mentioning this as it will make the discussion more complex 18:16 tcohen lets have koha-core? 18:16 * cait sends cookies 18:21 mtj tcohen: i think the plan was to leave the existing koha and koha-common packages as-is 18:21 tcohen that's correct 18:21 tcohen so 18:21 tcohen lets have a koha-core package? With less deps? 18:22 mtj yep, thats my understanding ^ 18:23 mtj i have made some progress on a koha-core pkg 18:23 mtj https://git.kohaaloha.com/?p=pb-master/.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/koha-core2 18:24 tcohen how can I help? 18:24 mtj ignore the missing 'control' in that branch, it has not be generated 18:24 tcohen I need that ASAP so we can have a cool 20.11 docker image for production 18:26 mtj i wanted to ask you what deps you wanted in koha-core... do we need apache, memcached, mysql, rmq? 18:27 tcohen none of those 18:27 mtj ok, easy :) 18:27 tcohen maybe apache 18:27 tcohen for now 18:28 mtj ok, apache can be a 'suggested' package?, and can be added/removed as needed... 18:28 tcohen good idea 18:28 tcohen wait, keep it out 18:29 tcohen we'll deal with it in the Dockerfile, explicitly 18:29 tcohen until we ditch it 18:29 tcohen keep koha-core to the bare minimum 18:31 mtj ok 18:33 mtj tcohen: i have not worked out a way of properly testing koha-core, as it is non-functional by itself 18:34 mtj ill make a start by building a koha-core package, and adding it to an apt repo for you to pull 18:35 mtj ...then we can work through any problems 18:45 kidclamp joubu++ 20:06 tuxayo Has the dev meeting be moved? 20:06 tuxayo It now colides with the general meeting tomorow 20:07 cait hm i hink it did since moved from last date last week? 20:08 tuxayo Ok, I though it was today. Still the collision though. 20:08 caroline I haven't changed it 20:09 caroline Not sure how to change it 20:09 caroline In the calendar and the wiki? 20:09 caroline manually? is that all? 20:10 cait i dunno 20:10 cait Joubu: around? 20:10 caroline ashimema also maybe 20:10 caroline one of them is bound to know 20:14 davidnind I would change on the wiki (to a more Joubu friendly time 13:00 or 14:00 since it is release month), then ask ashimema or Joubu to change in the calendar 20:14 davidnind then maybe a note to the dev mailing list 20:17 caroline I have access to the calendar, so I can do this part 20:18 davidnind although ashimema is doing a live stream around that time... 20:18 davidnind that would be great caroline 20:19 cait maybe we should push dev to another day? 20:19 caroline davidnind: what is the time of the stream? 20:21 caroline so 14 UTC is 3pm in madrid, 9am east coast and 6am west coast and probably an ungodly hour in nz 20:21 davidnind 5 November 2020 ,14:00 UTC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q0KrFv_YnU https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=PTFS-Europe+Live+stream&iso=20201104T1400 20:22 caroline oh that's on the 5 20:22 caroline the meeting is on the 4 (utc) 20:22 davidnind I'm not sure what day it is anymore :) 20:23 caroline me neither 20:23 caroline but the link says november 4, so i'm not sure 20:23 marie-luce according to youtube it's in 17 hours from now 20:23 caroline ok so definitely near the meeting 20:24 caroline and it's at 14 utc so maybe the meeting at 15? 20:24 davidnind oops, my bad, it's the 5th NZ time rather than UTC 20:24 davidnind +1 20:25 caroline ok unless someone voices an opposition, I will change the wiki and the calendar to the 4th at 15 utc 20:25 davidnind lets those who want to an opportunity to watch ashimema 20:25 davidnind +1 20:26 davidnind Updated time and date for IRC developers meeting https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Koha+Developers+IRC+Meeting&iso=20201104T1500 20:26 caroline can someone write to the dev list? 20:27 caroline @later tell Joubu we moved the dev meeting to 15 UTC on nov 4 because it clashed with the general meeting (and also it's a more manageable time for you) 20:27 huginn caroline: The operation succeeded. 20:28 davidnind caroline++ 20:28 marie-luce caroline++ 20:28 davidnind I will send a message to the dev list + update on Twitter 20:28 caroline thanks davidnind! 20:28 caroline davidnind++ 20:29 caroline meetings? 20:29 wahanui meetings are https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Next_IRC_meetings 21:08 cait coworkers located a bug i stable/master - bug 26915 21:08 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26915 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Koha explodes when writing off a fee with FinePaymentAutoPopup 21:20 ashimema davidnind++ 21:31 davidnind also caroline :) 21:34 davidnind cait: 💣 21:35 cait hm? 21:38 davidnind not sure how that would look - was a bomb with a fuse, from the title of the bug "explodes", I think my attempt at humour failed :-D 21:47 cait :) 21:47 cait mine does all the time 21:48 davidnind :) 22:15 cait oleonard-away: are you still a little bit around? 22:18 dcook Whew seems like folk were busy 23:09 caroline I see a lot of ppl had fun with emojis lol! https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_21.05 23:11 dcook Without me? I thought I was the only one who used emoji in the Koha community heh 23:11 * dcook looks 23:11 dcook heh cute 23:14 dcook davidnind is just too fast heh 23:16 caroline David "The Lightning" Nind 23:16 davidnind it worked for me, I just follow the test plan - didn't see your comment until after... 23:17 davidnind only because I'm not at work today :) 23:17 tcohen cait: have you seen bug 8179 23:17 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8179 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, agustinmoyano, Patch doesn't apply , Receiving multiple order lines at once 23:18 cait not yet in the queue, but saw that Severine was working on it 23:19 tcohen I'm surprised about the table search being kept 23:20 tcohen the cookie that is used for keeping the left search form doesn't contain a value for that table search 23:20 tcohen but I'm doing a reset_all against master to double check 23:21 dcook davidnind: I think my comment was wrong 23:21 dcook One of those cases where reading the code isn't enough heh. 23:22 davidnind search is complicated... 23:24 dcook davidnind: Story of my working life 23:24 dcook That said, it wouldn't be an issue if 25548 were pushed, but then ugly URLs... 23:25 cait tcohen: yeah i couldn#t see it in the cookies, that's what i checked too 23:25 cait but it did work sill 23:26 dcook Nick's patch works great. I'll do a 2nd sign off. 23:26 * dcook is looking forward to hopefully being on the QA team for 21.05... 23:26 dcook I probably won't do a tonne, but it would be handy for times like this 23:27 davidnind dcook++ 23:30 dcook Double trouble hehe