Time  Nick         Message
08:11 severine_q   hello #koha !
08:35 cait1        good morning severine_q :)
08:44 enkidu       Good morning everyone
08:47 severine_q   hi cait1 endiku !
09:12 did          hi,
10:28 oleonard     Hi #koha
10:37 severine_q   hello oleonard !
11:01 cait1        no Friday QA? :(
11:01 cait1        QA_team?
11:01 wahanui      QA_team is cait Joubu marcelr kohaputti josef_moravec tcohen kidclamp khall ashimema alex_a jajm matts
11:16 oleonard     cait you'll have to threaten them more
12:07 cait1        oleonard: with what is the question...
12:28 tcohen       hi
12:28 wahanui      hola, tcohen
12:28 tcohen       what's up, cait?
12:28 tcohen       cait1
12:29 oleonard     tcohen: cait1 is cracking the whip, demanding blood, sweat, and tears from the QA team
12:30 cait1        tcohen: i'd really like some enh patches passed as the deadline is today :)
12:30 cait1        20888
12:30 cait1        i signed off, so can't move it
12:34 cait1        missed my time window, eh?
12:36 magnuse      oh, feature slush?
12:36 wahanui      i guess feature slush is fast aproaching..
12:40 oleonard     I wonder if there's any chance for Bug 20212
12:40 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20212 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Slowness in Receiving in Acquisitions
12:46 oleonard     tcohen still around?
12:51 severine_q   oh yes please, 20212 !!
12:58 tcohen       I am
12:58 tcohen       oleonard I'm working with andrew (BWS) on some minor glitches
12:59 oleonard     I'm not big-brained enough to read the code for Bug 20212, but I was thinking about it when I was trying to see how I might use the checkouts API.
12:59 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20212 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Slowness in Receiving in Acquisitions
13:00 tcohen       oleonard if it is a datatable, it is fairly trivial
13:01 oleonard     In my case I'm thinking of an external (authorized) application pulling checkout info... So it could be made to return bibliographic and item information in addition to the plain issues data?
13:02 tcohen       sure!
13:02 oleonard     That would be cool :)
13:02 tcohen       you need to add x-koha-embed: [ item, item.biblio ]
13:03 tcohen       to the spec
13:03 tcohen       and then add that header on the request
13:03 tcohen       see acquisition_orders.json
13:03 oleonard     I finally did some successful tests of using the API to interact with our production database but found that I wished for more :)
13:04 tcohen       file  a bug like 'Allow embedding X, Y, X in checkouts'
13:04 tcohen       and I will just implement it
13:04 oleonard     tcohen++
13:05 tcohen       is this for A checkout or for listing them?
13:05 tcohen       you want the patron for sure
13:05 tcohen       and the library
13:05 wahanui      i guess the library is asking why we can search isbn with and without hyphens but not the issn... anyone?
13:05 oleonard     The case I was looking at was for getting checkouts for a particular patron
13:06 oleonard     I needed to get counts of itemtypes in checkouts
13:06 tcohen       right
13:14 tcohen       oleonard there's a libraries table
13:14 tcohen       or the cities one as examples
13:30 tcohen       kidclamp we overlapped :-D
13:46 tcohen       amoyano's patches deserve QA as well
14:03 lavamind     hello
14:04 lavamind     is the failed login attempts counter reset every day, or some period of time?
14:04 lavamind     or is it cumulative for the lifetime of an account?
14:21 oleonard     In columns_settings.yml there's a note about "internal/obsolete fields" in the items table, including the issues column.
14:21 oleonard     Is the issue column "internal" or "obsolete?"
14:25 magnuse      lavamind: it is reset after a successfull login
14:26 lavamind     magnuse: thanks
14:27 oleonard     On the item edit page the table of items can't be configured to hide "Total checkouts" or "Total renewals" because they're excluded in columns_settings.yml... but I don't know why
14:28 caroline     oleonard: I think they are "internal" fields meaning they are used by the system
14:37 oleonard     items.issues and items.renewals are both mapped by default to 952, so I don't think they should be excluded. If they're mapped they'll show up in the table of items for editing.
14:37 oleonard     I guess I'll file a bug.
14:41 caroline     isn't total checkouts and total renewals at the biblio level?
14:41 caroline     biblioitems
14:41 wahanui      somebody said biblioitems was not hte right table, cait is talking abou titems
14:42 oleonard     No, total checkouts = items.issues, and total renewals = items.renewals.
14:45 caroline     ok
14:58 oleonard     ...but after a reset_all I don't see total checkouts or total renewals on the items edit page...
14:58 * oleonard   is very confused.
15:03 * cait1      has no clue what people were talking about but is confused out of solidarity
15:04 oleonard     Thanks cait, I'm inventing imaginary bugs because I guess I don't have enough real ones
15:05 cait1        hm yeah, i am good at inventing problems too :)
15:07 tcohen       hey
15:08 tcohen       the gitlab patches aren't pushed yet!
15:09 * oleonard   looks for small-brain bugs
15:33 amoyano      Hello community!
15:33 oleonard     Hi amoyano
15:35 amoyano      Hi.. just a lil question.. I need to add a newly baked cron job to be installed with debian packages.. could someone point me to the docs for any guide?
15:46 tcohen       amoyano: look at debian/koha-common.cron*
15:46 tcohen       is it something that needs to be switched on, on each instance?
15:48 amoyano      no, I believe not
15:58 cait1        what is the cron for?
16:02 amoyano      It's for bug 23260
16:02 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23260 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, agustinmoyano, Failed QA , Anonymize (remove) patron data from items_last_borrower
16:03 amoyano      Instead of using the cron batch_anonymise, I'll add a new cron just for items_last_borrower
16:28 caroline     anyone else always reads chicken instead of checkin?
16:43 * oleonard   thinks caroline needs lunch
16:46 * caroline   goes to eat lunch
17:22 severine_q   good bye #koha !
17:33 cait1        amoyano: could also be another switch to cleanup-database
17:33 cait1        it woudl be great if it dependendedon a pref
17:33 cait1        so you can turn it on /off... and then it could also be scheduled by default
18:00 cait1        if you run many instances on a server that's super helpful
18:00 cait1        and with that... happy weekend everyone! :)
18:28 caroline     so... cait1 is done for the weekend, but cait is here?
18:29 caroline     oh, to have a clone... I could be done for the weekend too
18:29 cait         this is weekend cait :)
18:30 cait         on a different computer even :P
18:33 amoyano      bug 23260 just resurrected from the dead… a proper halloween bug
18:33 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23260 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, agustinmoyano, Signed Off , Anonymize (remove) patron data from items_last_borrower
18:47 tcohen       amoyano++
19:17 cait         kidclamp++
19:17 cait         thank you!
19:25 caroline     what is the difference between the maxreserves syspref and the Deaful checkout, hold and return policy in the circ rules?
19:26 cait         maxreserves is a total over all libraries
19:26 caroline     ah!
19:26 cait         and all rules etc
19:26 cait         don't ask me if it works rihgt, but i remember that#s why we kept it :)
19:26 caroline     but if the default checkout hold and return policy is for all libraries?
19:26 cait         no
19:26 caroline     ok
19:26 cait         that's a fallback = if you haven't set up a rule for a library
19:26 caroline     I think I understand...
19:26 cait         it's all labelled wrong currently
19:27 cait         "all libraries" is so wrong there right now
19:27 caroline     reviewing this section in the manual... so I'll try to explain it
19:27 cait         i am sometimes not sure if we didn't mix it all up right now
19:28 cait         like... have the labelling strange and people start to make things work differently
20:23 cait         talljoy++ you know why
21:12 Guest4680    Hello, I was wondering if anyone had a moment to answer a few questions I had about this software
21:13 caroline     ask away!
21:13 caroline     Don't know if the people who can aswer are around, depending on the question
21:13 Guest4680    Thank you!
21:14 Guest4680    So I work for a film school, and we need something to manage the reservations of many resources at once and I wasn't sure if that was something this software could handle
21:14 Guest4680    We have students getting equipment for shooting films. Which means they need to reserve up to 20 resources at once from one big pool of equipment. They need to look at the entire pool and see what is available over a given time period.
21:14 Guest4680    Would that functionality be available on Koha?
21:15 caroline     what do you mean by "one big pool of equipment"?
21:15 caroline     But yeah I think it's totally possible to reserve equipment qith Koha
21:15 Guest4680    So they need to be able to put in the dates for their reservation and see which resources are available
21:16 caroline     ok so like reserve in the future
21:16 Guest4680    Yeah
21:16 caroline     I know there is a functionality to allow holds in the future, but I've never used it myself
21:16 Guest4680    That's promising
21:17 caroline     you can try it in a demo or sandbox if you want
21:17 Guest4680    Yeah, that's probably what I'll do
21:17 caroline     https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sandboxes
21:17 Guest4680    Thank you very much caroline
21:17 caroline     If you go in Administration > System preferences >  AllowHoldDateInFuture
21:18 caroline     https://koha-community.org/manual/20.11/en/html/systempreferences.html#allowholddateinfuture
21:34 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3 build #96: STILL UNSTABLE in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3/96/
22:29 caroline     have a nice weekend everyone!
22:31 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
22:31 wahanui      Congratulations!
22:31 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3 build #97: FIXED in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3/97/