Time Nick Message 19:20 cait ok :) 19:20 oleonard cait: About a dozen pages I think 18:50 cait hi caroline and hi oleonard too (belatedly) 18:50 cait oleonard: how many more checkboxes do we have to fix? 18:25 oleonard Hi caroline 18:21 caroline good morning/afternoon/evening all! 18:06 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3 build #73: STILL FAILING in 6 min 52 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3/73/ 18:03 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #309: STILL FAILING in 4.7 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9/309/ 18:03 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_U18 build #307: STILL FAILING in 3 min 57 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_U18/307/ 17:47 severine_q good bye #koha ! 17:11 severine_q thanks cait for the tip ! 17:04 tuxayo cait++ 17:02 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26722 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , [Omnibus] Don't use "here" and similar as a link text 17:02 cait bug 26722 17:01 cait better accessibility by nt making links read "here" :) 17:00 cait i filed some for changing link texts 17:00 cait you might want to look at some of the bugs in NEW with keyword Academy 17:00 cait of course :) 16:51 severine_q if you find some, please send me so I can practice ! 16:51 severine_q i'd be happy to help for these kinds of minor fixes 16:50 severine_q oh i believe you :) 16:49 cait be warned, it can get addictive :) 16:49 severine_q cait : well, it's the second actually, but this one was all by myself without nicolas by my side so i'm quite proud :) 16:48 cait congrats! 16:48 cait severine_q: updated bug to make you assignee :) 16:47 tuxayo severine_q: thanks for maintaining that, and searching the websites! 16:47 cait that#s about time! 16:47 cait severine_q: your first? 16:46 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 16:46 cait @later tell khall bug 11299 it was 16:46 cait missed khall 16:45 tuxayo severine_q++ 16:45 severine_q thanks tuxayo !! 16:45 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25700 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Recent Kohacons are missing from the timeline 16:45 severine_q and tadaa bug 25700 !! 16:28 ashimema 🦸 16:27 tuxayo >_< 16:27 tuxayo terrible typo 16:27 tuxayo *can 16:26 severine_q can't ?! oh... 16:25 tuxayo severine_q, we can't try 16:25 severine_q salut tuxayo !! 16:25 tuxayo severine_q hi o/ 16:24 severine_q :) 16:24 severine_q anyone interested ? 16:24 severine_q need some help to commit my first patch by myself... 16:23 tuxayo ouch the tests 16:22 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_U18 build #306: FAILURE in 8 min 38 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_U18/306/ 16:19 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #308: FAILURE in 7 min 23 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9/308/ 16:17 cait hi khall :) 16:13 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D8 build #267: FAILURE in 9 min 20 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D8/267/ 16:11 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3 build #72: FAILURE in 7 min 35 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3/72/ 15:50 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12446 new feature, P5 - low, ---, maryse.simard, Signed Off , Enable an adult to have a guarantor 15:50 cait bug 12446 15:49 cait khall_: do you have time to check the adult guarantors again? 15:34 ashimema :) 15:34 cait hm professional development 15:33 cait personal development 15:33 ashimema sell it as a protection on their investment ;) 15:33 ashimema excellent :) 15:33 ashimema I should do that soon.. I bet I have hundreds in scary states 15:33 henryb ashimema: yeah I'd love to do it, just trying to get internal support/permission at the moment 15:25 cait it's a good thing to do, but must be a little scary 15:24 oleonard This is what comes from me looking at the list of bugs assigned to me 15:11 ashimema :) 15:11 ashimema yikes 15:10 oleonard Failed QA since 2019-04-26 15:10 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12533 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Improve authority search result display 15:10 oleonard Bug 12533 15:10 cait huh? 15:09 * oleonard tests to see if there is an expiration date for signoffs 14:58 cait but in general it's really nice to have you around :) 14:58 ashimema totally 14:57 cait if that feels a little easier 14:57 cait could be a topic expert role too 14:54 ashimema it would be awesome to have you 14:54 ashimema I was talking about accessibility and how it's an ongoing challenge with Phil (Commons) earlier :) 14:54 ashimema did you have a think about an accessibility focused role for community henryb ? 14:25 henryb I also have no idea what it means 14:25 henryb Fair enough! I think that's very sensible 14:24 cait henryb: sometimes I have to admit to give up - was not in th emood to dig deep on that one 14:23 cait because it actualyl makes no sense 14:23 cait i used the old translations... i think it probably never shows up 14:22 cait no 14:22 henryb cait: have you worked out what it means? 14:17 ashimema that's brillaint henryb 14:17 ashimema hehehe 13:41 cait heh 13:41 * cait has no idea what this means: New budget-parent is beneath budget 13:38 henryb This random quip on bugzilla really made me chuckle "How many QA testers does it take to change a lightbulb? --> QA testers don't change anything. They just report that it's dark." Well done, whoever said it! 13:34 cait always happy to help with any translation questions 13:30 cait we still spot typos and such that when you start fixing htem turn out ot have been there for like 10 versions :) 13:30 cait you will also never be done with refining 13:29 kohaputti (since there is bunch of untranslated stuff in finnish) 13:29 cait and it's boring 13:29 kohaputti with the two weeks that is between freeze and release it would require a massive amount of people working at the same time doing translations 13:28 kohaputti good to know :) 13:28 cait and then updates again on string freeze 13:28 cait he ususally does for getting people started if they want 13:28 cait i think he might make the files available a bit earlier 13:26 kohaputti just one month so waiting is okay :) 13:26 cait but if you don't want to use 20.05 waiting should be fine 13:26 cait you could do that, or start with files that are not likely to change much 13:25 kohaputti still probably best to wait for 20.11 string freeze to not have to do the translations for removed or changed strings. 13:24 cait the 20.11 files will be built from the 20.05 files 13:23 kohaputti thanks for the info :) 13:23 cait i am still struggling with the relator terms in the installer files... 13:22 cait we only have to translate new and changed (they turn fuzzy for rechecking) thankfully 13:22 cait ALSO as 20.11 files do not exist yet - you got on problem at all. the same strings will be moved 13:21 cait AND if you have a lot of difference in already translated Bernardo has some magic scripts to update one transltion file from the other 13:21 kohaputti ok, so then I think best to wait for 20.11 string freeze to not have to do double work 13:21 cait in that case it shows in light grey in the box and you can just submit after a quick check 13:21 cait when you translate 20.05 and the exact same string is in 20.11 Pootle will suggest it 13:21 kohaputti no answer yet 13:20 cait kohaputti: i just see your translation question in the logs -did you get an answer already? 13:15 cait lol 13:14 oleonard The real mystery about vampires is where do they get their wardrobe budget 13:11 cait yah *sigh* 13:10 * oleonard now REALLY wants a cape with black on black stitched Koha logo!! 13:09 cait glad to have your guidance... and I guess we now finally solved the mystery of non-aging oleonard :) 13:09 cait I am a new vampire... still learning 13:08 ashimema :) 13:07 oleonard Now we're talking 13:06 cait ok... black on black stitched koha logo on the cape? 13:06 cait lol 13:05 * oleonard confiscates cait's pencils 13:05 cait oleonard: i see... same goes for wooden things that have too sharp edges i guess 13:02 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22018 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, NEW , Add an option to 'AllowEarlyRenewal' to enable users to renew before the autorenew date 13:02 * magnuse sends ashimema some tuits for bug 22018 12:59 oleonard The safety of vampires around silver is somewhat in dispute I believe... Would hate to have that go wrong... 12:58 cait oleonard: maybe a silver amulet with the K! ? 12:56 TimothyAlexis fridolin++ 12:56 cait yep 12:56 oleonard The superlibrarian cape is not goth enough for a vampire 12:56 tuxayo The superlibrarian cape? 12:55 cait with koha isignia on the back? 12:55 nlegrand :D 12:55 cait now that would be a reason to get permanently turned 12:54 cait oleonard: cape! 12:52 * oleonard buys a black velvet cape for cait for Christmas 12:51 cait no i just need to figure out how to turn back from vampire to human 12:51 cait was fun watching 12:51 cait yes - very happy how it turned out with COVID and all 12:49 kohaputti Very great talks in KohaCon this year, thanks to all the speakers and organizers :) 12:49 cait hi nlegrand :) 12:48 nlegrand bonjour cait! 12:48 nlegrand the worse part, is me trying to fix qa-tools code before thinking maybe it's already been fixed ^^. I feel a bit... Well... 12:48 wahanui salut, cait 12:48 cait hello 12:41 ashimema khall++ 12:41 ashimema sorry nlegrand 12:41 ashimema oh noes.. 12:40 oleonard :( 12:40 nlegrand I fixed my problem by rebasing qa-tools to an up to date version. After one hour fiddling with old qa-tools code... 12:36 khall sandboxes appear to be working again! 12:27 fridolin you may use framework default value for this subfield 12:26 fridolin TimothyAlexis: sure, a newly created item should have "is new" defined (1 for example) 12:19 TimothyAlexis and I'm wondering if it should. :) 12:14 TimothyAlexis I'm thinking, when adding items using cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/additem.pl?biblionumber=<some numbe>, the new_status should be set. 12:13 TimothyAlexis :) 12:13 TimothyAlexis Fine, thank you for asking. 12:13 fridolin how are u today ? 12:13 fridolin TimothyAlexis: yep 12:12 TimothyAlexis fridolin here? 11:56 nlegrand ho, no it wasn't... 11:52 kidclamp passing that to khall_ 11:52 nlegrand ashimema: ho! It may be a tab problem!!! (I edited it with an editor not well configured) 11:51 ashimema then re-run the sandbox setup script 11:51 ashimema kidclamp.. maybe try the hard core 'docker system prune -af' to fully cleanup all images etc.. we had loads of stuff hanging around this morning on our when I checked.. 11:48 ashimema I must admit.. I'm not yet close enough to fully interpret that error 11:48 ashimema jajm around ? 11:48 ashimema that feels odd nlegrand 11:48 ashimema hmm 11:47 ashimema the only difference I know of locally is that we have a 2 minute wait during provisioning instead of 1 minute.. I think I added the extra minute because our server was very slow to get the container going on occasions and it fails spectacularly if the container isn't there when the next command runs. 11:46 nlegrand Is it some kind of false positive or did I miss something? 11:46 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24412 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nicolas.legrand, Failed QA , Attach waiting hold to desk 11:45 nlegrand also I mimicked it for Bug 24412 as now it's a qa-tool error for me also :) 11:45 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25321 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to stable , Move translatable strings out of strings.inc into the corresponding JavaScript 11:45 nlegrand it puzzles me, because it comes straight from Bug 25321 and I don't see what's wrong regarding the guidlines 11:45 * ashimema runs up a bywater sandbox to to inspect the provision logs 11:44 nlegrand in hold.js, the line data += " " + __("at %s").format(oObj.waiting_at); gives me a Untranslatable string found (at %s) - See coding guideline JS5 11:44 ashimema interesting 11:43 kidclamp ours still seem to be broken ashimema 11:31 ashimema struggling to replicate any issues that were reported last night 11:31 ashimema were people still having issues this morning with sandboxes 11:26 kohaputti uploaded for 20.11. 11:26 kohaputti The state of Finnish translations is not that great currently in Koha 20.05, I'm thinking of asking lots people to help us get it in better condition but I don't know if we should start our efforts after the 20.11 string freeze (11th november) or whether it would be useful to start it already know. My question here is whether most of the 20.05 translated strings will be lost after the new string freeze and translations files are 10:35 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22018 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, NEW , Add an option to 'AllowEarlyRenewal' to enable users to renew before the autorenew date 10:35 ashimema bug 22018 magnuse.. seems I was keen to add such functionality too.. but didn't find the moment to actually do it :( 10:30 ashimema 2006 one in paris? 10:30 ashimema when was the first kohacon? 10:29 oleonard o/ 10:26 ashimema very cool 10:26 eythian https://archive.org/details/marygrove "In October 2020, the collection of Detroit-based Marygrove College Library, comprising more than 70,000 books and journals, starts a new life online with the support of the Internet Archive." A short doco on the digitisation of a closing library. 10:25 ashimema I lvoe that we celebrate every new developer and ever release.. but you can end up not seeing the wood for the trees 10:25 ashimema I feel the timeline has gotten a little out of hand.. it would be great to add filtering to it at some point.. or give it a more interactive visual display :) 10:24 ashimema It'll be great to have them on here 10:24 ashimema :D 10:17 severine_q #crossfingers 10:17 severine_q great ! I'll try something and hope it'll be fine :) 10:16 ashimema that would be perfect :) 10:16 severine_q am I right ? 10:16 severine_q so i'm supposed to modify the .txt file, adding new lines for each missing KohaCon and adding this epoch date 10:16 ashimema interesting.. there's loads of Kohacon's missing from the timeline 10:15 severine_q ok 10:15 ashimema for the commit authors and things we grab it from the git logs 10:14 ashimema got things like kohacon events you can use a website (like above) to manually grab a date 10:14 ashimema https://www.epochconverter.com/ 10:14 severine_q ok 10:14 ashimema which is basically /seconds since 1970 10:14 ashimema it's an 'epoch' date 10:13 severine_q when i edit the history.txt file, i can see number beggun the lines, where do they come from ? 10:12 wahanui that one is, like, running fine for me 10:12 ashimema that one 10:12 ashimema ooh.. 10:12 severine_q thanks !! 10:12 ashimema fire away.. always happy to help :) 10:10 severine_q or maybe someone else ? :) 10:10 severine_q do you have some time for me ? 10:10 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25700 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Recent Kohacons are missing from the timeline 10:10 severine_q ashimema : i'd like to train myself and propose a patch for bug 25700, but i've got some questions 09:35 ashimema no.. don't think it's that 09:35 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26388 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to oldstable , Renew all and Renew selected buttons should account for items that can't be renewed 09:35 ashimema bug 26388 maybe.. 09:35 ashimema hmm 09:32 ashimema I'm digging.. trying to find it 09:32 magnuse thanks! 09:29 ashimema I thought there was a bug that had got further than that 09:29 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24476 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to master , Allow patrons to opt-out of auto-renewal 09:29 magnuse bug 24476 09:29 ashimema ooh.. 09:29 ashimema koha is awesome 09:29 ashimema :) 09:29 ashimema I wish I'd set my alarm now so I could join the chat in congratulating these people 09:28 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21498 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Possibility to renew early when automatic renewals are enabled 09:28 magnuse bug 21498 09:28 magnuse oh yes indeed! as did all the other winners 09:27 ashimema yeay cait, you well and truly deserve your award :) 09:20 ashimema but there is a strong use case for allowing it. 09:20 ashimema can't fully remember 09:20 ashimema erm.. I'm sure there's been recent bugs to allow early renewal actually 08:53 magnuse if a loan is set to auto renew, there is no to let the patron renew it from the opac, right? 08:02 ashimema hehe 07:52 nlegrand https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenga#/media/Fichier:Jenga.gif -> when I touch something in return.pl 07:51 ashimema haha.. totally 07:50 ashimema must admit, whenever I dig into circulation functions.. and I do more often than I'd like to admit.. it scares me... there's so many moving parts there 07:50 nlegrand ho money and dates are the worst parts of a software. 07:50 nlegrand ^^ 07:50 ashimema lol 07:50 ashimema "easy" module.. 07:49 nlegrand yes specially with the part touching easy modules like circulation 07:49 ashimema I've had similar fun with the cash management/point of sale work I've done.. it's taken 5 releases or so to get it all in.. and it's still being refined now :) 07:48 ashimema it's hard splitting these things up.. but it does make testing that bit easier.. 07:48 nlegrand sure 07:48 ashimema we're so close now to having a really fully functional feature with it 07:47 ashimema It will be awesome to see it in 20.11 07:47 nlegrand :) 07:47 ashimema lots of people to test it over the next few days I reckon.. so not bad timing :) 07:47 ashimema :) 07:47 nlegrand ashimema: yes, I have to fix it soon and now I have time for it... 07:46 ashimema aw.. hpoe you've reached the light at the end now :) 07:46 nlegrand ashimema: I've been in a tunnel doing unpleasant things... 07:46 ashimema I see you just rebased it 07:46 ashimema how is your Desks work going nlegrand? 07:45 * ashimema is in catch up mode.. watching Julias's accessability keynote.. it's awesome 07:45 magnuse hooray for the kohacon awards! 07:44 ashimema hope your keeping well 07:44 ashimema nice to see you again nlegrand.. it's been a while 07:43 nlegrand morning ashimema 07:34 ashimema morning 07:30 nlegrand salut severine_q ! 07:30 severine_q oyo nlegrand :) 07:28 nlegrand Bonmatin 07:20 TimothyAlexis We found the problem which was a typo after a merge. prority => $holdpriority, 07:15 severine_q smon, that an interesting patch ! we don't use for now host-items so we didn't experiment these problems, but knowing it's fixed can be a good reason to try this feature :) 07:01 wahanui bonjour, alex_a 07:01 alex_a Bonjour 06:21 huginn Bug 26313: normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to oldstable , "Show analytics" and "Show volumes" links don't work with Elasticsearch and UseControlNumber 06:21 smon https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26313 06:21 smon ah 06:20 smon is the UseControlNumber systemparameter zebra specific? or does it also apply to elasticsearch? 06:17 smon i changed the field definition from $9 to $w, i hope that does not break anything 06:15 smon there is host-item-number, which indexes 773$9, so you could add the parents biblionumber in $9? we use system numbers instead $w 06:11 smon not the id 06:11 smon because it indexes the main heading 06:10 smon ah 06:09 smon but https://(...)/cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/search.pl?q=host-item:<system number> has zero results 06:08 smon there is a host-item field defined for biblios 06:07 smon but this does not seem to work anymore 06:06 smon in our marc view, we used this query structure to search for child records: q=rcn:<parent system number>+and(bib-level:a+or+bib-level:b+or+bib-level:m+or+bib-level:s) 06:05 severine_q what a lucky day with elasticsearch question so early in the morning :p 06:01 severine_q hi dcook !! 06:01 smon i got another switching-to-elasticsearch question for you ;) 05:59 dcook morning severine :) 05:54 severine_q morning #koha ! 05:43 wahanui hola, smon 05:43 smon hi 04:37 cait1 bye all 04:33 marie-luce or have a good day :) 04:33 marie-luce goodnight! 04:19 marie-luce :) 04:19 cait1 i am still here but i shouldn#t be :) 04:16 marie-luce let me know tomorrow how you french class went! 04:15 marie-luce I'm still here, but not for long! 04:15 dcook Just realized that everyone is off to sleep but me heh 04:01 dcook Where was this in French class... 04:01 dcook Heh 04:01 dcook https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7-Q59UIwLM&feature=youtu.be&t=805 03:59 * dcook is trying to work on his Joubu pronunciation 03:57 dcook I do love Sonia's video! 03:57 dcook Oh now I'm watching replays 03:46 marie-luce thank you all, it was lovely to watch from Montreal 03:45 carlos thanks everyone - great to be part of this from still-secluded Melbourne! 03:44 caroline good night all! talk tomorrow! 03:44 caroline ends are sad! 03:44 oleonard 'night everybody 03:32 georgewilliams congratulations to bob and irma 03:30 irma thanks all :) 03:29 marie-luce have a lovely trip! 03:29 irma bye for now 03:29 cait1 have a great vacation irma and bob and congratulatoins :) 03:29 irma best wishes everyone for the end of the conference and the hackfest 03:29 davidnind it was great that you could pop in irma! 03:29 irma So we'll get back on the road to the next town 03:28 irma very nice, congratulations all the other winners 03:24 davidnind bob++ 03:24 davidnind irma++ 03:22 marie-luce great job all! 03:22 irma :-) 03:21 dcook Congrats Bob and Irma (also on retirement) 03:21 dcook Oh wow I'm floored 03:20 thd Where would Koha be if HLT had not had a year 2000 problem? 03:20 irma we love it THank you 03:20 marie-luce irma++ 03:20 caroline Congrats irma! <3 03:20 alexbuckley irma++ 03:20 lisettelatah irma++ 03:19 oleonard irma++ 03:16 irma ++++ thank You !!! 03:13 irma +++++ :-) 03:11 irma +++ 03:08 lisettelatah paul_p++ 03:08 oleonard paul_p++ 03:06 alexbuckley ashimema++ 03:06 lisettelatah ashimema++ 03:05 oleonard ashimema++ 03:05 irma +++ :-) 03:03 oleonard Joubu++ 03:03 alexbuckley joubu++ 03:03 lisettelatah Joubu++ 03:03 irma +++ :-) 03:03 marie-luce joubu++ 03:00 irma +++ :-) 03:00 lisettelatah cait1++ 02:59 marie-luce davidnind++ 02:59 lisettelatah davidnind++ 02:59 oleonard davidnind++ :) 02:59 marie-luce congrats cait1++ 02:58 oleonard cait1++ 02:58 davidnind cait1++ 02:58 irma ++++ :-) 02:57 oleonard You can't tell but I'm wearing my tuxedo for the occasion 02:56 irma +++ 02:54 davidnind we're back - the Koha Awards ceremony is beginning... 02:32 davidnind break time, back in 20 minutes...#Kohacon20 02:30 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3 build #71: FIXED in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3/71/ 02:30 wahanui Congratulations! 02:30 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 02:30 cait1 nightly reconnect oops 02:30 marie-luce nice spot to watch KohaCon 02:29 caroline I thought I understood you were traveling, but it's nice that you popped in to say hi! :D 02:29 irma hi oleanard, marie-luce 02:28 irma hi caroline, we're on holiday in western New South Wales, have stopped in a town called Coonamble . Having a picnic lunch in a park and connecting to kohacon - technology! 02:27 marie-luce hi irma 02:26 oleonard Hi irma :) 02:26 cait hallo :) 02:25 caroline hi irma! 02:23 irma hi 02:18 oleonard kellym++ 02:18 oleonard jzairo++ 02:00 mtj hi tcohen, could you kick jenkins 2 and 4 pls... some problem with 'git fetch' 01:54 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #307: FIXED in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9/307/ 01:54 wahanui Congratulations! 01:54 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 01:49 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3 build #70: STILL FAILING in 4.8 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3/70/ 01:48 dcook I have other priorities (personal and commercial), but it's interesting... 01:47 dcook Added some more info about directions we might want to take in terms of backend tech.. 01:47 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10787 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Linked Data/RDF Omnibus 01:47 dcook bug 10787 01:45 cait marie-luce: haven't seen anything yet, but i guess we could always make up something 01:45 dcook mtj: I hear you 01:44 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3 build #69: STILL FAILING in 5.1 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3/69/ 01:42 marie-luce for people who aren't in Wellington tomorrow for the cultural day, is there a workshop or any other thing plan to get social? 01:42 mtj if [ systemctl is-enabled rabbitmq-server ]; then 01:42 mtj hmm, even easier... 01:41 mtj if dpkg-query -W -f='${db:Status-Abbrev}' rabbitmq-server | grep -q ^.i ; then 01:41 mtj ..versus.. 01:41 mtj if [ $(systemctl is-enabled rabbitmq-server) = 'enabled' ]; then 01:39 dcook #goals 01:39 dcook Me too 01:39 dcook :3 01:39 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3 build #68: STILL FAILING in 6.1 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3/68/ 01:39 mtj also, i really wish our debian scripts were using systemd 01:38 dcook heh 01:37 mtj ...i had it done last week 01:37 dcook Oh cool. I'll take a peek 01:37 mtj hi dcook, i sent a patch for your rabbitmq bug 01:36 dcook Very inspiring davidnind :) 01:34 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3 build #67: STILL FAILING in 4.4 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3/67/ 01:33 davidnind thanks! 01:31 cait well done :) 01:31 marie-luce awesome presentation! 01:31 oleonard Well done davidnind! 01:31 marie-luce davidnind++ 01:31 lisettelatah davidnind++ 01:31 dcook davidnind++ 01:31 caroline that was awesome 01:31 caroline davidnind++ 01:30 dcook Maybe "Koha" pages would be useful.. 01:30 dcook So apparently wikidata pages are stored as "pages" in mediawiki.. 01:29 dcook So here's the RDF for a Mark Twain VIAF record: https://viaf.org/viaf/138978451/rdf.xml 01:29 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3 build #66: STILL FAILING in 4.5 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3/66/ 01:29 marie-luce that would be fantastic 01:28 caroline vizualization++ 01:28 dcook Yeah, authority data is an interesting example 01:28 dcook Thinking back to davidnind's example, maybe it could be useful for visualization collections too.. 01:28 caroline What I'd love to see is links to author bios in OPACs and such things 01:27 dcook Although they'd have to use compatible schemas still.. 01:27 dcook Maybe if a central library/union catalogue used OAI-PMH or something to get RDF from member libraries 01:26 dcook (Other than in terms of copy cataloguing) 01:26 dcook But I'm not sure how a library would necessarily have very useful machine readable data 01:26 dcook It has lots of useful information 01:26 dcook The thing about WikiData is that it has critical mass 01:26 dcook So now I'm actually thinking how we could output that as RDF.. 01:25 dcook I have been trying to drum up interest in non-library open gov data 01:25 caroline I'm actually in the Tri-Wizard tournament at the moment, trying to stun all those creatures... 01:25 oleonard It's not spam, I love hearing about your menagerie 01:25 caroline yeah, sorry for spamming... 01:25 dcook heh 01:25 * oleonard reads the scrollback to learn that caroline is having trouble with sphinxes and pythons, oh my! 01:24 dcook Although as time goes on, I get a better idea of what it should look like 01:24 dcook We need to work out how to use it in Koha first 01:24 dcook Yeah that's the stuff bit heh 01:24 caroline what is it, what does it eat in winter? how it is used in ILSs, how it is used in Koha (if at all) 01:24 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3 build #65: STILL FAILING in 4.4 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3/65/ 01:23 caroline dcook: linked data would be an interesting conference talk :) 01:22 caroline I guess that can all be linked to open data (like govt data)? 01:20 dcook Store the actual data as a blob in an SQL database, and then just "index" that in the triplestore... 01:20 dcook As the years go by, it seems to me that triplestores are used the same way as a search engine like Solr/Elasticsearch 01:19 dcook Interesting info on Wikidata: https://www.quora.com/Does-wikidata-store-data-as-RDF-Triples-If-yes-what-kind-of-datastore-is-used 01:19 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3 build #64: STILL FAILING in 5 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3/64/ 01:16 caroline ok commented the spelling sections in source/conf.py and it now works! :D 01:14 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3 build #63: STILL FAILING in 7.8 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3/63/ 01:11 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D11 build #51: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D11/51/ 01:10 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #306: STILL FAILING in 3.4 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9/306/ 01:09 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3 build #62: STILL FAILING in 4.9 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3/62/ 01:09 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3 build #61: STILL FAILING in 10 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3/61/ 01:05 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #305: STILL FAILING in 3.4 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9/305/ 01:02 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #304: STILL FAILING in 3.1 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9/304/ 01:01 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #303: STILL FAILING in 5 min 11 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9/303/ 00:59 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3 build #60: STILL FAILING in 10 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3/60/ 00:58 caroline Is there a way to skip the spell checking when I want to "make"? I just want to see if I'm able to add alt text to images 00:56 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #302: STILL FAILING in 10 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9/302/ 00:56 caroline I'm not going to manually install each of those, it's crazy 00:56 caroline I tried sudo apt-get install python 3.8 but there are soooooo many missing dependencies 00:55 caroline Yeah I was just looking at my python version 00:55 davidnind caroline: I think it has to do with the version of Python - Unbuntu 18.04 has version 2 and 3 installed, find the package name for spelling with the 3 in it (I think - it was a while ago) 00:48 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D8 build #266: FIXED in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D8/266/ 00:48 wahanui Congratulations! 00:48 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 00:46 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3 build #59: STILL FAILING in 4.5 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3/59/ 00:46 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #301: STILL FAILING in 10 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9/301/ 00:44 caroline "upgrade" doesn't work either 00:44 caroline I tried pip update PyEnchant, but it says update doesn't exist 00:44 caroline is there a way to force it to update& 00:43 caroline So I try to install PyEnchant, and it installs version 2.0.0, but sphinxcontrib-spelling requires version 3.1.1 (from what I understand of the error messages) 00:43 caroline I'm trying to install sphinxcontrib-spelling, which requires PyEnchant 00:42 caroline I'm having trouble with my sphinx again... 00:36 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9_My8 build #104: ABORTED in 1 hr 25 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9_My8/104/ 00:27 cait or at least unlikely considering the current situation 00:27 cait I was wondering if we should have a virtual hackfest maybe ... as it looks like marseille next year is not going to happen as well 00:15 tuxayo yes! 00:15 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3 build #58: STILL FAILING in 10 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3/58/ 00:15 dcook Maybe something about background tasks and schedulers at some point down the road too.. 00:14 tuxayo \o dcook 00:14 dcook Even if we are moving to just Debian/Ubuntu heh 00:14 dcook Cheers tuxayo :) 00:13 dcook Hmm that's a good point 00:13 tuxayo And also the general challenges and possible strategies around that. (distro packages, cpan, carton, etc) 00:13 tuxayo That could help a lot people who can't use Debian or Ubuntu. 00:12 tuxayo «dcook never knows what to talk about at Kohacon» You have a lot to talk about your very diverse Koha installations! 00:11 davidnind oleonard++ 00:10 davidnind **blushes** 00:05 cait heh 00:05 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U20 build #120: NOW UNSTABLE in 1 hr 25 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U20/120/ 00:05 cait oleonard: definitely :) 00:05 oleonard In fact I can probably just re-use the old talk... Nothing much has changed has it? 00:04 oleonard I'm thinking that next year it will have been 12 years since my OPAC customization talk, maybe it's time to bring it back ;) 00:04 marie-luce davidnind++ 00:03 oleonard davidnind++ 00:03 cait davidnind: you already won the audience over with your 2! previous talks so I think you will be fine :) 00:02 * dcook never knows what to talk about at Kohacon 00:02 dcook Maybe I could do a demo in the future... 00:01 marie-luce demo are the best presentation! 00:01 dcook So you can do it :D 00:01 dcook I have a friend who did a 2 minute lightning talk where she live coded a Python program which wrote, compiled, and ran a C++ program without any errors. I think she almost got a standing ovation heh 00:00 dcook You can do it davidnind! 00:00 davidnind I have no slides... and I'm going to tempt the demo gods by doing some live editing (if I have time)...