Time Nick Message 00:21 cait oleonard: around? 00:30 cait does someone know which schema these callnumbers are? 00:30 cait https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25897 00:30 huginn Bug 25897: normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Inventory table call number sort should use cn_sort value 00:31 cait is that LOC? 00:42 dcook I can take a peek 00:43 dcook It's been a while since I classified or shelved anything, but yeah I'd say LOC/LC 00:44 dcook LOC/LCC* 00:46 dcook Ahh and I see Nick's point.. 00:46 dcook I mean... "B 29" seems like an error in any case.. 00:47 dcook Although... boy you can tell I haven't done this in a while 00:47 dcook I guess not.. 00:47 dcook As we used to print labels where we just have the letters on top.. 00:49 dcook Looks like a college so yeah LCC for sure 01:04 cait thx dcook - the tests seem to go that direction too 01:04 dcook cool 01:05 cait I've uploaded a possible solution by now :) 01:05 dcook Really intrigued by bug 23823 01:05 dcook Nice one 01:05 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23823 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, helix84, Passed QA , Allow system preferences to be bookmarked 01:05 dcook I was looking at the thread, and recognized the name Ivan Masar and helix84 01:05 dcook He's been a DSpace contributor for quite a few years 01:05 dcook Cool to see him contributing to Koha now too 01:05 cait i think this was his first patch 01:05 dcook I think so too 01:06 cait hope we didn't scare him off 01:06 dcook Heh 01:06 dcook I wondered that a bit 01:06 dcook DSpace is quite a different model to ours 01:06 dcook Although we have many more contributors I think 01:17 caroline davidnind++ 01:17 cait starting again :) 01:18 dcook Audio is a bit spotty with this session :( 01:18 dcook But go davidnind :D 01:19 caroline audio is fine for me but the visual is pixelated 01:20 cait still ok here 01:20 cait davidnind++ 01:21 dcook Hmm visual is great for me 01:21 dcook I think the audio may have been a little browser glitch for me 01:21 dcook Well youtube glitch 01:21 dcook Got the audio slider stuck to my mouse. Anyway doesn't matter heh 01:23 caroline marieluce helped me with the visual, much better now! 01:25 lisettelatah where are logs in the devbox? 01:27 cait hm which ines are you looking for? 01:28 hayley_kohacon caroline glad it's better now! I'm monitoring the stream the whole day so I will hopefully catch any issues on our end pretty quickly :) 01:28 lisettelatah intranet error 01:28 cait http://sb1.sandboxes.bywatersolutions.com/ 01:28 cait ? 01:28 cait the newer ones have this button 01:29 lisettelatah not on sandboxes, on devbox on my machine 01:29 cait oh 01:29 cait first try koha-plack-err 01:29 cait kohadevbox or docker? 01:30 lisettelatah kohadevbox 01:30 cait ok 01:30 cait usually they end up in the plack error log then 01:31 cait there are some alias commands that you can use: 01:31 cait koha-intra-err: tail the intranet error log 01:31 cait koha-opac-err: tail the OPAC error log 01:31 cait koha-plack-log: tail the Plack access log 01:31 cait koha-plack-err: tail de Plack error log 01:33 lisettelatah cait++ 01:33 dcook interesting 01:33 dcook Ultimately it'll be /var/log/koha/kohadev/<filename> 01:34 dcook Really intrigued by davidnind's talk 01:34 dcook I like this topic-based approach idea 01:36 caroline That's where we'd like to be going... It's just hard to switch and we're so behind 01:37 caroline What's missing is the how to go from 1.0 to 4.0 01:37 lisettelatah caroline when is the next community education meeting? 01:37 caroline we didn't set a date last time :( 01:38 caroline I should write to the liste see if anyoe is interested in doing another one 01:38 rangi i think have to go to 2.0 first 01:38 caroline I think we're already at 2.0 01:40 caroline I feel like shouting WE ACCEPT EVERYONE! NO KNOWLEDGE REQUIRED! 01:40 cait heh 01:40 caroline Send us a word document and we'll be dancing! 01:40 marie-luce davidnind++ 01:41 hayley_kohacon davidnind++ wonderful talk! 01:41 caroline davidnind++ 01:41 lisettelatah davidnind++ 01:41 hayley_kohacon I'm excited to get involved with documentation where I can, thank you for being welcoming caroline! 01:41 hayley_kohacon caroline++ 01:44 lisettelatah caroline what about trying to do a meeting during Koha DIY later this week? 01:45 caroline good idea! 01:45 dcook I feel like it was just a couple years ago that you were starting out caroline, and now you're the pro 01:45 caroline After all, that idea started at kohacon last year 01:45 caroline dcook: lol! 01:46 caroline diving in and making mistakes is the best way to learn 01:46 marie-luce I'm taking notes! 01:49 dcook caroline: That's how I've done it too heh 01:49 dcook And since you put it that way... that's not a bad philosophy to have about life heh 01:50 caroline yeah, if only you could git reset in life though 01:50 dcook It's a shame we're virtual this year. Otherwise I'd cheers a beer to that 01:51 caroline git revert that-time-I-said-something-really-stupid 01:51 dcook heh 01:53 dcook I'm so not used to hearing North American accents.. heh 01:53 dcook Having flashbacks to Kohacon2018 too 01:54 hayley_kohacon It's really cool hearing all the different accents of people in the community, it's one thing to say 'more than 15,000 libraries world wide' and another to hear it and see it for real! 01:54 carlos question about the live feed- a couple of us have had to refresh the youtube page for the afternoon session - any idea why that might be? 01:55 rangi hmm youtube being weird is all i can think of carlos 01:56 dcook Yeah the live feed has been going all right over here in Australia 01:56 dcook so true hayley_kohacon 01:56 hayley_kohacon hm carlos it's been pretty stable for me, every so often it buffers a little bit but I don't think that's happened this afternoon yet 01:56 dcook Yeah it's been so smooth for me so far 01:56 hayley_kohacon probably a bit different me being in the room and all! 01:57 georgewilliams I've had the feed going on my computer in the USA for 6 hours with no problem 01:57 dcook Loving this bit about the myth vs reality 01:57 dcook So true 01:57 hayley_kohacon absolutely 01:59 dcook So glad we had that fun run in Portland.. 01:59 dcook I don't think I'd ever talked to Jessie before 01:59 dcook But then I think we ended up having friends of friends in common or something 01:59 dcook The world is so small O_O 01:59 dcook Like non-Koha friends of friends heh 02:06 jzairo :) 02:07 caroline great presentation jzairo :) 02:07 carlos oh well - thanks rangi and hayley - we'll just have to keep an eye on it 02:08 jzairo thanks @caroline 02:08 dcook Yeah that was really interesting jzairo 02:08 jzairo always happy to share ideas! 02:09 marie-luce jzairo++ 02:09 rangi jzairo: there was lots of nodding in the auditorium 02:09 jzairo :) we want to get the word out to everyone ! 02:09 dcook Are these talks going to be posted for later too? 02:09 dcook I feel like that's one I could really re-visit multiple times 02:09 rangi yep 02:09 cait tea break again i think 02:09 dcook :D 02:10 rangi the streams will be up as recorded ones as soon as we finish today 02:10 dcook That's great 02:10 rangi but then over the next 2 weeks we will cut them up and upload them as individual talks too 02:10 cait 4:10 am and still awake... my week long training pays off :D 02:10 dcook Great 02:10 rangi heheh 02:10 caroline definitely will be forwarding that one to my boss hehe! 02:10 dcook I was a bit skeptical about participating virtually, but it's so nice being able to interact here on IRC and other electronic media 02:10 rangi its afternoon tea here now, then joy 02:10 dcook cait: Glad to have you :D 02:10 rangi you're missing some good food 02:11 dcook Speaking of food, I need to have a late lunch >_> 02:11 rangi https://twitter.com/scrummyscrolls/status/1317973077590863872 02:11 dcook So Joy in about 39 minutes? 02:11 rangi the cinammon scrolls are vegan 02:11 marie-luce wow 02:11 dcook Ohhh 02:11 dcook I haven't had a good cinnamon scroll in years.. 02:11 marie-luce who bake those? 02:11 dcook There was a vegan cafe back in Saskatchewan that had the best ones of my life (other than grandma's of course) 02:12 rangi marie-luce: did you ever meet sol at catalyst when you were here? 02:12 rangi scrummy scrolls is her side business 02:12 dcook Catch everyone in a bit 02:12 marie-luce when did she start at Catalyst? 02:15 caroline cait did you make much progress on your knitting for this first day of conference? 02:15 cait ah actually a little bit 02:16 cait 4 rows on the two colored scard - i am at the last pattern repeat so the rows are getting quite long 02:16 caroline is it a triangle shawl? 02:26 cait yep 02:26 cait but a row is the 2 sides together 02:27 cait so not the long side.. but the 2 equal sided sides 02:27 cait ... does that make any sense? 02:27 cait it's long! 02:31 caroline yes, I've made triagles before... it starts ok and at the end one row is ugh! 02:44 cait1 :) 02:48 rangi sorry got distracted by food 02:48 rangi marie-luce: she was there before I started 02:50 marie-luce we've probably met then 02:51 rangi I think you would have :) small world eh 02:53 cait1 it's still the starting slide, right? 02:53 caroline are the slides rolling? 02:53 cait1 ok, not only me then :) 02:54 georgewilliams I was about to ask if there were supposed to be other slides 02:54 cait1 now they moved 02:54 marie-luce me too 02:54 rangi heh yeah 02:54 rangi i was just wondering that myself :) 02:55 rangi (we are watching the same stream as you in the auditorium at the moment, we flick between watching people in person, and hten watching the youtube stream) 02:56 rangi our great colleague and friend rebecca is back at catalyst mixing the video frm here, plus the pre recorded talks, into one stream out 03:01 caroline is it legal, lol! 03:02 georgewilliams The best ideas usually are not. 03:10 dcook Hmm did I miss Joy's talk all together? 03:11 davidnind no, still running 03:11 dcook Oh Youtube says standby? 03:11 dcook "Stay tuned for our next speaker"? 03:11 dcook Oh weird 03:11 dcook Refreshed and all good 03:11 dcook So people bash open source 03:12 dcook But you can be a multibillion dollar company and have proprietary software that still needs a good ol' Shift+F5 03:12 rangi heh 03:12 rangi kathryn is gonna do an end of day wrap up now 03:13 dcook She's coming through loud and clear :D 03:13 rangi hopefully you are all hearing her 03:13 rangi sweet 03:15 dcook "Chris Cormack probably tweeted it because it was food" 03:15 dcook heh 03:15 rangi its funny cos its true 03:15 dcook That lunch photo of yours did make me extra hungry 03:17 dcook Ahh kathryn is too funny 03:17 rangi shes a pretty good boss to have :) 03:22 marie-luce o for awesome! 03:23 dcook Well that was great 03:23 carlos yeah nice - more tomorrow! 03:23 caroline cool! 03:23 cait1 kind of went quick today! 03:23 dcook So quick! 03:23 caroline good night and talk tomorrow! :) 03:23 cait1 what's the plan for dinner? heh 03:23 dcook Of course, every work day for me goes quickly... heh 03:23 lisettelatah good night everyone! See you tomorrow 03:23 dcook Ooh yeah what's on for dinner? 03:23 dcook night lisette 03:24 dcook I've only been to Wellington once and I did not get to sample enough food last time.. 03:24 dcook #futuregoals 03:25 cait1 rangi: I think you actually misssed tweeting the food from tea breaks... 03:25 cait1 more food pics :) 03:28 marie-luce good night everyone 03:39 aleisha_kohacon tomorrow's livestream link: https://youtu.be/-Q05J_3GIOI 03:48 dcook Just got the email :D 06:15 magnuse \o/ 06:18 simon_ hi 06:19 simon_ i get "Invalid marclist field provided: lc-card-number" for my authority matching rule on 010$a after switching to elastic search 06:21 simon_ lc-card-number is already added in the default search engine configuration 06:36 simon_ ok, so i added the field name in /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/SearchEngine/Elasticsearch/QueryBuilder.pm to $koha_to_index_name and now the matching rule works 06:41 ashimema Dang.. so one still needs to modify a hard coded list somewhere for this stuff do they... I thought that had been fixed for ES 06:46 magnuse simon_: which version are you on? 06:48 simon_ no we are not on the newest version 06:48 simon_ i just saw you guys/girls fixed some stuff 19.11 06:48 simon_ we are still 19.05 06:51 alex_a Bonjour 08:17 magnuse huh? branchcode can't be included in PatronSelfRegistrationBorrowerUnwantedField? 08:47 simon_ is it possible to create a report with a "where in <list of values>"? 08:48 simon_ i mean <<list of values>> 08:48 simon_ i currently get Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference 09:40 severine_q morning #koha ! 10:25 oleonard Hi #koha 10:31 severine_q hi oleonard ! 10:32 severine_q not very crowdy today :/ 10:33 oleonard Everyone hung over from KohaCon day 1? :) 10:33 oleonard I know folks stayed up late for it (not me) 10:35 severine_q me neather :) 10:36 severine_q replay is nice ! 10:42 * magnuse neither 11:30 oleonard Is there going to be a bug-squashing session during KohaCon? I don't see it in the schedule 11:30 * oleonard asks this question to the empty void 11:49 severine_q oleonard, I think there is on day 6 and 7 11:49 severine_q well, that's how I understood from description :) 11:50 severine_q *the description ! but my english is bad since a few weeks :) 11:58 oleonard Ah right, I was looking here, https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon20/Programme, which is only for live stream stuff 11:58 davidnind Days 6 and 7 - They've called it working together 11:59 oleonard Hi davidnind, how did your talk go? 11:59 davidnind okay I think... 12:05 ashimema did I imagine a timestamped version of the recorded stream? 12:06 ashimema aha.. it's in the description but not actually highlighted in the video location bar 12:30 magnuse davidnind++ 12:53 cait oleonard++ 12:53 cait :) 12:54 magnuse "The method Koha::Patron->add_extended_attribute is not covered by tests!" isn't that the modern way to add an attribute to a patron? 12:54 cait restart_all? 12:58 magnuse not running under plack this time 12:59 cait so... what are you trying to do and where? maybe we can spot the mistake 13:00 magnuse trying to adapt opac/svc/auth/googleopenidconnect to talk to another OpenID provider 13:02 magnuse on line 221 i change the categorycode, whcich works fine: $borrower->categorycode( 'BRUKER' ); 13:02 magnuse then i try to set an attribute: $borrower->add_extended_attribute({ 'code' => 'PNR', 'attribute' => $pnr }); 13:03 ashimema sounds about right to me 13:03 ashimema weird 13:08 magnuse gah, pebkac! i was looking up add_extended_attribute on a newer version of the code than the one i was actually working on... 13:10 cait oh so it doesn't exist yet? 13:17 magnuse exactly... 13:17 cait I have to admit, th eerror is not very helpful 13:18 cait at least it always leaves me slightly puzzled too 13:35 severine_q cait you're so quick !! you're welcome :) 13:36 cait :) 13:51 tuxayo lukeG around? 14:15 lukeG Hi tuxayo 14:15 henryb Does anyone use koha-testing-docker with their own dummy data? Is it easy to do? 14:18 cait henryb: sorry, still on kohadevbox with sample data 14:19 cait i think i shoudl not be too hard to load a database you prepared with the standard tools, but no sure how to make that happen automatically 14:19 ashimema erm 14:19 ashimema there is a way to do that.. 14:19 * ashimema tries to find the docs for it. 14:20 severine_q cait : i did a bad thing on bz 6819... 14:20 severine_q :( 14:20 cait bug 6819 14:20 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6819 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Don't offer cancel order links for received order lines on basket summary 14:20 cait did you fail it? :) 14:21 cait ah, one patch too many? 14:21 severine_q i failed attaching patch, there is one coming form another bug but I don't know what happened ... 14:21 severine_q i am sorry :/ 14:21 cait no problem :) 14:21 cait do you know how many times i typo or similr? 14:22 cait do you want me to help you fix it? 14:22 tuxayo lukeGhi :) if the release is the 27th, then the string freeze should be around now right? 14:22 ashimema I've done that soooooo many times severine_q .. easily done 14:23 severine_q cait : oh yes, i'll be happy to un-mess this ! 14:23 severine_q i now feel better :) 14:28 ashimema tcohen, kidclamp.. can you remind me (and henryb) how to get k-t-d to load with your own DB? 14:29 cait severine_q: sorry, i was a bit distracted 14:29 cait what you can do first is fix bugzilla 14:30 cait do a git bz edit 6819 and uncomment (remove the #) from the wrong patch 14:30 cait this will make it obsolete in bugzilla and all will be as before 14:31 ashimema or jsut go into Bugzilla itself, click to edit the attachemnt and select the obsolete box 14:31 cait yep 14:31 cait both work :) 14:33 cait General reminder: time this week to go wild with the Academy keyword (but only sandbox testable bugs with good test plans please! 14:33 severine_q cait, no problem 14:34 severine_q thanks ashimema cait, i need to remember that ! 14:35 ashimema henryb kp (instead of ku) will give you database persistence between uses of koha-testing-docker 14:35 ashimema I'm still reminding myself how to load my own data into it.. 14:35 ashimema Joubu is out this week.. but he's working on some improvements around this too I believe 14:36 cait severine_q: looks good now on the bug, you ok with the next steps repeating the sign-off? 14:36 severine_q cait ashimema : should I obsolete comment #10 too using a specific tag ? 14:37 cait trying to remember... i thin it's obsolete too but not sure 14:37 severine_q yes cait, i'm going to do a nice & clean sign off now ! 14:37 cait you don#t have to, but you can if you want 14:37 severine_q thanks a lot ! 14:39 lukeG tuxayo: i think we decided on October 20 for the string freeze 14:40 henryb Thanks ashimema! Is kp the same as doing $ docker-compose -f docker-compose.yml -f docker-compose.persistent.yml -p koha up ? I have no idea what that means but saw it on the KTD readme 14:40 ashimema yes 14:40 ashimema it's exactly the same 14:41 henryb docker is so amazing because you can do so much without knowing how anything works! On the other hand, I have no idea how anything works! :D 14:41 ashimema normally koha-testing-docker will throw away your database each time to restart it 14:41 ashimema with the 'persistent' thing above it'll let you keep the same one accross restarts 14:42 ashimema hehe.. 14:42 ashimema we all lean on the shoulders of giants there.. I'm still learning docker and often have to defer to the pros 15:28 cait wonder if we could get some opinionson bug 25532? 15:28 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25532 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, david.roberts, In Discussion , Add a wikipedia-style search suggestion feature to the OPAC 15:32 tuxayo lukeGthanks, I couldn't find it. I'm reminding this for tomorrow. As for the recipients, koha-translate, koha-devel and BCC to bernardo right? 15:32 tuxayo So we are more consistent in the announcements. 16:04 severine_q cait, do you want Academy patchs to be kept for the squashing days at the end of week ? 16:05 cait i filed them with the DIY in mind, but i am going to just make more :) 16:05 henryb cait: bug 25532 looks interesting! I take your point about the lack of visibility if this doesn't go into Koha, especially given that we are a PTFS-E customer and I had still missed this feature (or possibly been told about it and forgotten) 16:05 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25532 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, david.roberts, In Discussion , Add a wikipedia-style search suggestion feature to the OPAC 16:05 cait work on anything you like severine_q 16:06 oleonard severine_q: I added system preference comparison to the log viewer because it seemed like the type of log entry which would benefit from it. I hadn't thought of using it for the reports log because my reports log is always turned off :) 16:07 cait henryb: please feel free to add a comment! i'd really love to unlock it one way or the other 16:07 henryb Will the 20.05 roles be voted on at the next general meeting on 4 November? Just wondering how long I have to add my name 16:07 cait and if you want to test, use the patch or jus add this to your OpacUserJs. http://paste.koha-community.org/25809 16:07 cait i tihnk we need to vote there 16:07 cait as november is already release date 16:07 cait adding it to the agenda right away 16:08 cait to explain - general are monthly so that's the last meeting before release 16:10 henryb Thanks cait 16:10 cait henryb: and you should totally sign up :) 16:10 ashimema I had intended to submit that wikipedia one as a plugin 16:10 ashimema but David beat me to it submitting it for core 16:11 ashimema henryb :) 16:12 severine_q ok oleonard ! I think the same kind of comparison will be quite useful for Catalog module too 16:34 oleonard When I enter the "git bz attach" command I wish my computer would start playing an audible countdown clock because inevitably I get distracted and don't get back to it in time. 16:35 cait i feel you :) 16:40 ashimema Haha.. I do that too 17:28 severine_q good bye #koha ! 17:47 tcohen hola 17:51 tuxayo o/ 18:51 tcohen anyone has the live stream channel ? 18:54 cait i's too early i tihnk? 18:54 cait or do you mean the link? 18:55 cait still an hour 18:55 tcohen the link 18:55 wahanui the link is strange, add / at the end 19:56 marie-luce Hi all 19:56 cait everyone on their seats and ready? :) 19:57 marie-luce :) 19:57 carlos yep - all set 19:57 caroline yas! 19:57 caroline still tweaking my presentation though... it's so me to do this last minute 19:57 oleonard I made it on time today! 19:59 cait not hearing kathryn, should I? 20:00 carlos not sure - i have no sound either 20:00 caroline oh there's a chat on youtube today 20:01 oleonard There we go 20:01 marie-luce Yeah! 20:13 oleonard I love seeing those old screenshots 20:13 * oleonard ages another 20 years 20:16 davidnind LOL! 20:17 caroline rangi looks like a gnagly teenager in that photo lol 20:21 cait oleonard: but you always look the same! :) 20:21 cait someone else had goosebumps for the "first downloads after hours"? :) 20:32 caroline librarians are important too :D 20:34 marie-luce clap clap clap 20:36 * oleonard runs off to cook 20:56 rangi everyone say hi to mark our tech person 20:56 marie-luce Hi Mark! 20:56 caroline hi mark! great job so far! 20:58 caroline aleisha++ 20:59 caroline alexbuckley++ 21:00 caroline rangi++ 21:01 caroline hayley++ 21:01 caroline fellow linguist! 21:02 caroline kathryn++ 21:02 hayley caroline++ 21:09 rangi the video play ok? 21:09 lisettelatah yeah, it looks great 21:11 caroline Koha good! 21:11 marie-luce Koha community! 21:11 caroline omg, this made me cry! so cute! 21:12 marie-luce love it! 21:13 cait koha good indeed :) 21:14 tcohen it was great, rangi 21:14 tcohen recovering my breath 21:16 cait beautiful conf morning 21:16 marie-luce indeed 21:30 tcohen anyone knows what does it mean that someone 'managed' a purchase suggestion? Is it just the last user that changed some status? 21:33 lisettelatah tcohen it seems (at least on 19.11) to be the last user that changed a status or edited the suggestion. 21:33 tcohen thanks :-D 21:33 tcohen how would you call it in english 21:34 tcohen in a way that tells that more precisely than managedby 21:34 tcohen or manageddate 21:34 lisettelatah probably updatedby 21:34 tcohen updated_by 21:34 cait hm not sure 21:34 cait you can also set a manager now 21:34 cait so you woudl be hte last one to update 21:35 cait but the manager would be someone else 21:35 cait and i think there is a last update date now 21:35 cait i tihnk it's the person to decide about it 21:35 cait if it gets accepted or rejected 21:35 tcohen yes, someone is in charge, but some others might change the status 21:35 cait What's the context of the question? 21:36 lisettelatah yeah it looks like 20.05 added bug 23590 21:36 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23590 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to master , Add the ability to change the manager of a suggestion and notify the new manager 21:36 tcohen cait: the API, and consistency. 21:36 cait ah 21:36 tcohen I was reviewing the RFC because the implementation looks wrong 21:36 tcohen some fields like that one don't look correct 21:37 tcohen I want to propose a 'public' route to add suggestions 21:37 tcohen and trying to figure which subset of the current fields should be publicly available 21:37 tcohen managed doesn't look like important for a public route 21:37 tcohen we only display the manager name 21:38 cait hm why not important? 21:39 tcohen OpacSuggestionManagedBy allows to hide the manager 21:39 tcohen yet 21:39 cait in the opac 21:39 tcohen manageddate and <status>date 21:39 cait because you might not want to show staff names there 21:39 tcohen are ambiguous 21:40 cait hm a status change could also be setting to available or ordered 21:40 cait later in the process 21:40 tcohen so, some statuses would change manageddate and some others not? 21:40 tcohen I'll go test 21:42 tcohen ah, any action changes managedby and manageddate 21:43 cait hm there is definitely a bug there currently 21:43 cait i was just testing what andrew supported 21:43 cait i suppose some javascript issue 21:45 tcohen suggestion.pl has an Init sub 21:45 cait bug 26738 21:45 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26738 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Unable to change manager of purchase suggestion 21:45 tcohen right 21:45 cait tcohen: i sugggest talking to Joubu and Severine 21:45 cait her library is behind the recent enh 21:46 tcohen I guess updated_* doesn't fit, because we want to split between the user updating his suggestion, and the staff member doing stuff with it 21:46 cait users can#t really update i think 21:47 cait only delete 21:49 lisettelatah correct, patrons can only delete, not edit suggestions. 22:00 tcohen right 22:01 tcohen would we, at some point want users to 'add' infrmation to existing suggestions? 22:01 tcohen somehow? 22:01 cait hm 22:01 cait maybe a feedback thing 22:01 cait like asking them to complete the information if it's not enough 22:01 cait but i haven't seen a request for that so far 22:02 tcohen I wouldn't implement that 22:02 tcohen but wouldn't like the API design to prevent such things if someone wants that 22:02 rangi caroline++ 22:02 marie-luce go Caroline! 22:03 marie-luce caroline++ 22:03 tcohen caroline++ 22:04 lisettelatah caroline++ 22:10 cait caroline++ :) 22:12 davidnind caroline++ 22:13 marie-luce great presentation! 22:13 caroline ugh,. I talk so fast when im nervous! 22:14 tosca it was great! 22:14 caroline sorry kathryn for making you imporvise lol! 22:15 cait you did great 22:15 davidnind any "weird" things libraries are cataloguing? 22:16 cait keys 22:16 cait table fans 22:16 caroline rangi's pokemon catalog? 22:16 lisettelatah At Latah County we have a curiosity collections which includes wireless hotspots, energy usage trackers, job hunting kit which includes a tie 22:16 cait calculators 22:16 cait cake pans 22:16 georgewilliams She mentioned that some of the NEKLS libraries have cake pans and bakeware. 22:16 rangi heh 22:16 cait oh and my favourite 22:16 georgewilliams We also have a library that just started checking out bicycles 22:16 lisettelatah birdwatching and stargazing kits 22:16 tosca i would love to see collections like that in NZ 22:16 cait https://prag.bibliothek.goethe.de/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?advsearch=1&idx=kw&op=and&idx=kw&op=and&idx=kw&do=Hledat&limit=mc-itype%2Cphr%3AGEGE&sort_by=relevance 22:16 cait oh sorry for the evil link 22:17 cait but it's just a koha, save to click :) 22:17 georgewilliams The library in Lewiston, Idaho (USA), checks out fishing poles. They are about 3 blocks from the Clearwater River 22:17 davidnind that was great caroline! 22:20 lari season passes to botanical gardens, theaters, sports events and many more :) 22:20 marie-luce cait: I love the pétanque set and disco ball records 22:20 cait i htink i'd like to check out the home planetarium 22:21 cait no idea how that works, but sounds interesting everytime I look at it 22:21 georgewilliams I have a couple of libraries that have community rooms that community members can use when the library is closed. I have 3 libraries where we've cataloged the keys to their community rooms so they can check those out when needed. 22:21 cait https://athen.bibliothek.goethe.de/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?advsearch=1&idx=kw&op=and&idx=kw&op=and&idx=kw&do=Suche&limit=mc-itype%2Cphr%3AGEGE&sort_by=relevance 22:22 cait we have one that has everything you might forget for exams 22:22 cait and things that you need for presenting 22:22 davidnind thanks everyone for the weird and wonderful! 22:22 cait calculators, rulers, pens, whiteboard markers, etc. 22:22 cait I think putting fans in the system was kind of a protest against the new building missing AC.. 22:23 davidnind 2010 blast from the past on the live stream! 22:25 tcohen cya tomorrow! duty calls! 22:25 cait the first picture ther showed me tlaking to chris in person for the very first time, i was in awe heh 22:26 davidnind KohaCon2010 photos https://www.flickr.com/photos/4nitsirk/sets/72157625236896938/ 22:26 cait and then i gave him chocolate 22:26 caroline always a great way of making friends, chocolate 22:26 cait that's what I thought too :) 22:26 cait and he had promised to teach me more git which he then did at the hackfest 22:29 davidnind ++ everyone 22:33 rangi heh 22:41 thd whaat was the padlet URI? 22:42 caroline https://padlet.com/anitsirk/kohacon2020 22:42 caroline It's fun to see the stuff appear! 22:47 marie-luce nice way to interact with online people 22:49 rangi yeah, it's a cool little tool 23:02 oleonard o/ 23:02 marie-luce excellent first half of the day! 23:03 cait hi oleonard 23:03 wahanui hi oleopard 23:03 thd Do you know of any FOSS alternative to padlet.com service? 23:04 marie-luce oh, too fast! one more! 23:26 cait caroline: cna you help outon bug 26340? 23:26 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26340 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ivan.dziuba, Failed QA , When printing labels from a barcode range, keep zero padding 23:29 caroline I'll try 23:29 cait not sure if I am making sense there 23:29 cait I just think we need to keep the ability to print without 0 as this works right onw 23:30 caroline yes I understand, I'm just not sure how to logically go about it 23:30 cait so i'd be happy with other suggestions too that make both variations work 23:39 caroline cait, wouldn't ivan's suggestion work? If the first value starts with a 0, then the second value must have a 0 23:40 dcook Whoa looking at that flickr from 2010.. 23:40 caroline dcook: was it you in one of the pictures? 23:40 dcook Nah, I wasn't in the Koha community in 2010 23:40 dcook I started working on Koha in 2012 23:40 * dcook does have many doppelgangers though 23:40 caroline ok I wasn't sure, one person with a beard kinda looked like you 23:40 dcook One time, I thought I saw a picture of myself online, and it wound up being someone else 23:41 dcook Like... I'm so generic looking that even I can't recognize myself 100% lol 23:43 dcook I love how Robin looks so Robin heh 23:43 dcook Oh wow Koha 3.4.x.. 23:44 * dcook feels young until he realizes that he's been around for nearly half of Koha's life 23:46 dcook Ahh and this is my first time seeing a photo of mtj! 23:47 dcook I love Kohacon but it does certainly reduce one's anonymity 23:53 dcook Strangely I'm trying to spot someone in these photos but he's not in one of them 23:53 dcook Maybe just coincidence 23:54 thd dcook: Almost all the pictures which someone claimed to be me are actually someone else. 23:54 dcook :o 23:54 dcook I don't see you in any of these photos either 23:54 thd I am better at hiding. 23:54 dcook Ah maybe you behind a backpack there 23:54 dcook ? 23:54 dcook https://www.flickr.com/photos/4nitsirk/5113982548/in/album-72157625236896938/ 23:55 dcook Maybe not 23:55 thd I was never in that room. 23:56 * thd goes to fetch laundry etc. and find a new disguise.