Time Nick Message 00:05 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9_My8 build #89: SUCCESS in 50 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9_My8/89/ 00:07 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U18 build #86: SUCCESS in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U18/86/ 00:39 dcook Thanks ashimema[m] 00:39 dcook I'm going crazy... I know I looked into why Plack shows a terrible "Internal Server Error" page... but can't remember now 00:40 dcook Ahhh bug 26048 00:40 dcook Phew 00:40 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26048 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, NEW , Apache does not use /cgi-bin/koha/errors/500.pl if Perl script dies 00:55 dcook Wow TIL that we actually do still have Schedule::At in Koha.. 01:01 dcook mtj: Bug 26702 for removing libnet-stomp-perl from debian/control.in 01:01 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26702 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Remove explicit libnet-stomp-perl from debian/control.in 01:10 shaffendi hi everyone. i tried to enable plugin in koha but after that i cant find UseKohaPlugins in system preference. i used koha ver 20.05 on debian 9 01:11 shaffendi first i edit koha-conf.xml and change 0 value to 1 01:12 shaffendi then i restart apache and memcahche 01:12 shaffendi cound anyone help me what i did wrong here? 01:12 shaffendi could* 01:13 shaffendi i tried to 2 of my koha server but both came out same result 01:14 shaffendi Koha version: 20.05.04.000 01:17 shaffendi No system preferences matched your search for: UseKohaPlugins 01:21 oleonard shaffendi I don't know much about it but I'm curious if you navigate to /cgi-bin/koha/plugins/plugins-home.pl if it works 01:22 shaffendi af 01:22 shaffendi ah 01:23 shaffendi elonard 01:23 shaffendi i just got that plugin enable after restart the server 01:24 shaffendi wonder why just restart web server is not enough 01:24 shaffendi wait i try on 2nd server 01:26 * oleonard disappears again 02:14 shaffendi ya it works after server restart 02:14 shaffendi thanks guys 03:12 dcook @later tell Joubu Apologies if it looks like I've been ignoring your emails. Our mail server appears to have been marking them as spam. Will look at remedying that... 03:12 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded. 05:22 TimothyAlexis Yesterday I had problems wtih koha-testing-docker. ashimema helped with 'docker system prune -af', after which everything was downloaded again when starting with 'ku'. 05:22 TimothyAlexis This worked. 05:23 TimothyAlexis Today I have a similar problem again. 05:30 TimothyAlexis es_1 | [2020-10-16T05:29:35,250][INFO ][o.e.x.m.p.NativeController] [fZSohqk] Native controller process has stopped - no new native processes can be started koha_es_1 exited with code 78 06:12 TimothyAlexis I fixed it. :) 06:19 marcelr hi #koha 06:31 severine_q morning #koha ! 06:36 marcelr hi severine_q 06:37 severine_q hi marcelr :) 06:45 ashimema[m] Koha is moving a pace at the minute.. 06:52 ashimema[m] Mornin' #koha 06:53 alex_a Bonjour 07:01 marcelr hi ashimema alex_a 07:01 alex_a Hello marcelr \o 07:35 ashimema dbic_trace and dbic_trace_profile will probably be your friends when testing auto_savepoints marcelr 07:35 ashimema I used a quick script and those running from command line to understand it myself 07:55 * ashimema thinks cait was targetting 42 QA's just to get exactly double me 07:56 ashimema me just misread that.. 32 would have been double.. 07:59 TimothyAlexis Is there a way to distinguish a biblio as 'new'? 07:59 ashimema magnuse around? 08:09 TimothyAlexis Or rather, is there a way to distinguish an item as 'new'? 08:11 ashimema erm.. pass I'm afraid 08:12 ashimema still fairly early.. some other folk may pop in soon and know the answer 08:12 ashimema what are you wanting to achieve? 08:12 ashimema I believe there are plugin hooks on the biblio/item creation routines now.. so you might be able to use that to catch new items? 08:13 TimothyAlexis To display new items on the first page or to view a list with new items. 08:13 ashimema https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Plugin_Hooks 08:15 ashimema there's a new_status field in the table.. no idea what it's used for however 08:15 ashimema and dateaccessioned? 08:19 TimothyAlexis Yeah I noticed that new_status too. 08:19 TimothyAlexis I'm thinking if datelastseen = dateaccessioned the book could be considered new. 08:25 ashimema sounds like a reasonable idea 08:25 ashimema as I say.. I'm not really sure.. have a bit fo a play :) 08:26 TimothyAlexis bug 26032 08:26 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26032 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Add 'is new' filter in items search 08:27 ashimema ooh.. nice 08:29 ashimema I have no idea what sets and unsets the new status.. 08:31 fridolin 26032 is not ready yet, ISNULL() is a mysqlism 08:32 TimothyAlexis fridolin do you know when the status is set and unset? Because all our items have this set as NULL 08:33 fridolin https://www.w3schools.com/Sql/func_mysql_coalesce.asp 08:33 fridolin TimothyAlexis: ah you need to set a Koha to marc mapping link with an item subfield 08:33 fridolin like 952$B 08:34 ashimema oh.. so it's maintained at a cataloguing level? 08:34 fridolin and then use Tools › Automatic item modifications by age 08:34 fridolin to un-new after a few days 08:35 ashimema aha.. I see 08:35 fridolin TimothyAlexis: see cron misc/cronjobs/automatic_item_modification_by_age.pl 08:35 ashimema nice little flow there.. is it documented anywhere? 08:35 fridolin heuuuu 08:35 ashimema hehe 08:36 fridolin i'm not at the origin of this dev 08:36 fridolin maybe dig into bugzilla 08:37 TimothyAlexis fridolin: "you need to set a Koha to marc mapping link with an item subfield" 08:37 TimothyAlexis Why? :\ 08:40 fridolin TimothyAlexis: in order to catalog a value when creating items, any value means "is new" 08:40 fridolin define default value 1 in framework so that any item created gets is new = 1 08:41 fridolin delete the subfield to unset item "is new" 08:42 ashimema it's reasonably elegant when you think about it. 08:47 TimothyAlexis we don't import items with marc 08:53 ashimema hmm.. my Kohacon email went into spam.. check your spam boxes peeps.. else you might miss the links 08:56 fridolin TimothyAlexis: ah heu this feature is for items 08:57 fridolin but you may create an item type "new" for biblio records 08:57 magnuse ashimema: am now 08:57 fridolin you will have to manually unset then 08:57 fridolin "To display new items on the first page or to view a list with new items." 08:57 fridolin ahhhhh 08:59 magnuse why not just use the dateaccessioned or something like that and say the x most recent ones are new? 09:00 fridolin to view a list with new items, you can create a link on a search sorting by date of acquisition 09:00 fridolin magnuse++ 09:02 ashimema I found what I was looking for in the end magnuse.. I was sure you'd created an issue for koha-dashboard but I couldn't for the life of me find it 09:03 ashimema I did eventually and I've now moved it to the active repository and asked you a question ;) 09:04 TimothyAlexis magnuse we will use the status to set it manually when books are put on a display shelf in one of our libraries. 09:06 fridolin TimothyAlexis: look also at https://inlibro.com/en/carousel-instructions/ 09:14 TimothyAlexis We're using that plugin :) 09:15 TimothyAlexis We changed the positioning to % instead of px, so that it would resize with window width. 09:17 ashimema nice 09:18 TimothyAlexis fridolin++ 09:18 TimothyAlexis ashimema++ 09:24 TimothyAlexis Thanks guys :D 09:28 magnuse ashimema: hope i responded in the right place? maybe remove or mark the inactive one? 09:28 magnuse ...as inactive? 09:29 ashimema indeed 09:58 * cait waves 10:10 cait noone here? 10:12 ashimema hi cait 10:12 magnuse \o/ 10:13 ashimema :) 10:14 ashimema right.. now what should I do today 10:14 ashimema I have a feeling it's a bit late for my transfers tree this cycle.. wondering whether it's worth continuing there or waiting 10:15 severine_q hi Cait :) 10:15 ashimema it's another area I was really hoping to get done.. been trying to get that darn 'Transfers to send' report into community for ages 10:16 cait yay :) 10:17 cait ashimema: you still have another week to throw things at me basically :) 10:17 cait but I'd also like to get the QA queue below 10 today... 10:17 cait looks like i missed marcelr already? 10:22 * magnuse expects everyone is watching the european final of the bocuse d'or 10:24 cait ... the.. what? 10:26 magnuse the olympics of cooking 10:26 ashimema there's some challenging ones in that queue cait 10:26 cait yes i know 10:26 cait i certainly need some help there 10:26 ashimema and I'm blocked from at least 4 10:27 cait leaves 12 others! :) 10:27 magnuse cait: here's the live feed https://vimeo.com/event/289526/embed 10:27 magnuse qateam++ 10:29 vfernandes how we can improve the XSLT processing of a giant record (more than 1000 items)? 10:31 cait magnuse: watched 5 secons and now i am hungry 10:31 cait magnuse: the comment is kinda hard to understand 10:32 magnuse yeah, it's in norwegian, i thought it was english 10:34 cait who is winning? 10:35 magnuse dunno, the norwegian participant is from bodø and seems very set on winning ;-) 10:36 magnuse (he placed #1 in europe and 3# in the world last time) 10:36 cait ah ok i see :) 10:44 kohaputti tcohen, have you started the work on bug 21366 ? If not I might be interested to take on the task, although maybe after week or two, not right now. 10:44 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21366 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED , add plack reload 11:12 oleonard Hi all 11:14 cait hi oleonard :) 11:15 tcohen morning 11:15 tcohen kohaputti I haven't 11:16 cait oleonard: i see your opinion was requested on bug 23823 11:16 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23823 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, helix84, Signed Off , Allow system preferences to be bookmarked 11:16 cait :) 11:16 oleonard Oh cool I love giving my opinion 11:16 cait sometimes... i wish i could see your face, but it might not be telling me anything... 11:17 oleonard :D 11:53 cait :) 11:53 cait *sends cookies to everyone* 11:53 cait I am so happy about all the "fresh" patches in QA queue 11:54 cait come and get them! 12:28 * cait waves at khall 12:29 * khall waves 12:31 magnuse \o/ 13:07 cait khall++ thx for taking the guarantor ones 13:08 cait i'd love to see those go in - they already put a lot of work into it with lots of changes needed we we changed the underlying code 13:11 ashimema TimothyAlexis still around? 13:25 cait oleonard: i was just testing the ill notices bug and noticed a button dark grey with black writing (bootstrap) 13:26 cait do we already have a standard fix for that? should they be a specific different color? 13:26 oleonard Where do you see it? 13:26 cait you'd need to have ILL configured 13:26 cait http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/koha/opac-illrequests.pl?method=view&illrequest_id=32 13:27 ashimema screenshot ? 13:27 wahanui it has been said that screenshot is frenched and there is a not about having used a translator 13:27 cait <input type="submit" class="update-illrequest btn btn-default" value="Submit modifications"> 13:27 cait working on it 13:31 cait https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=111874 13:31 oleonard Since it's a submit button I'd change "btn-default" to "btn-primary," but it should be considered a general bug that input:submit.btn-default has black text. 13:31 ashimema hmm 13:31 cait so ... 13:31 ashimema I wonder if that's Koha side or Backend side 13:32 oleonard It's Koha 13:32 cait ah yes, that's stnadard opac template 13:32 ashimema okies 13:32 cait for ILL, but not part of the backend 13:32 ashimema thanks 13:33 cait viewing your requests in opac 13:33 ashimema 12 bugs to go cait :) 13:33 cait yeah, but i need tofind some late breakfast first 13:33 cait :) 13:34 * oleonard needs to do more testing of ILL in the OPAC 13:34 cait oleonard: not sure what the recommendation was now - should we file a separate report or fix in template? 13:34 cait hm might be a separate report either way 13:34 cait just not sure if i should file it for ILL for for a specific button type 13:35 oleonard Both: btn-default is the wrong class in this template. But btn-default is supposed to work. 13:35 cait so... 2 bugs 13:36 ashimema I so want a superhero icon now 13:37 cait bug 26706 13:37 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26706 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Fix btn-default styling for better contrast 13:37 ashimema https://www.iconfinder.com/icons/2654894/tearing_shirt_superhero_clark_kent_change_superman_icon 13:39 cait doesn't work for me :) 13:39 cait male person tearing clothes off might also lead to misunderstandings... 13:40 cait https://www.iconfinder.com/icons/2655316/flying_superwoman_superhero_icon :) 13:41 oleonard https://www.iconfinder.com/icons/2654895/exhausted_superman_superhero_overwork_tired_icon 13:41 ashimema hehehe 13:41 ashimema love it 13:41 cait hm yeah that one too heh 13:41 cait grumpy cait https://www.iconfinder.com/icons/2571782/mutant_laser_power_eye_powerful_attack_superhero_icon 13:42 cait dev and qa relationship? https://www.iconfinder.com/icons/2571773/strength_superhero_power_fight_compete_fireball_superpower_icon 13:42 cait ok... i better really find food now 13:42 ashimema I've unleashed a storm of icons! 13:42 ashimema :) 13:42 ashimema hehe 13:42 oleonard Also, these icons are pushing the limits of what can be defined as an icon :/ 13:43 cait true 13:43 cait remember chris superlibraian cape? 13:43 cait i thin they just did the Koha K 13:43 cait that could maybe owrk 13:43 ashimema hehe 13:44 ashimema any thoughts from the accessability front regarding the red icon to denote superlibrarian 13:44 ashimema I wasn't going to fail it on that.. I like it.. 13:44 ashimema but I'm not entirely sure how color blind friendly it is.. 13:44 cait hm i think rule is you shoul not use color only 13:44 cait for information 13:45 ashimema indeed 13:45 cait color + some other visual clue 13:45 ashimema perhaps we could add a pattern to the background for it? 13:45 lukeG morning Koha! 13:45 ashimema what do you think oleonard.. achievable? 13:45 cait bbiab 13:45 cait and hi lukeG :) 13:47 ashimema 1 bugs to go and I've hit caits 10 target 13:48 oleonard I think that's a good point which I didn't consider. My instinct is to look for a different icon but I don't know if there's something appropriate 13:48 oleonard Hehe... https://fontawesome.com/v4.7.0/icon/bomb 13:49 ashimema hehe.. 13:50 ashimema done 13:51 ashimema we're at 10! 13:51 * oleonard tries to picture the NSO queue at 10 and fails 13:51 ashimema lol 13:51 oleonard Maybe this for superlibrarian? https://fontawesome.com/v4.7.0/icon/star 13:52 ashimema yeay.. and I'm back to half as good as cait :) 13:52 ashimema that could work 13:53 ashimema that or a padlock I wondered 13:53 ashimema but I think I prefer the start 14:09 ashimema down to 8 cait 14:10 ashimema I'm locked out of 3 remaining ones.. and I think a the guarantors ones are partially waiting on feedback for one of the other guarantor ones that just failed.. and I'm waiting for the go again from khall on barcode plugin hooks.. 14:10 ashimema so.. I reckon it's time for me to go back to working no my transfers bugs. 14:26 oleonard QA++ 14:27 ashimema ready to fill it back up oleonard? 14:27 ashimema we should tag a bunch of easy bugs for the workshops next week 14:27 oleonard Getting ready to submit a patch right now :D 14:28 cait khall: could you take on bug 26598? 14:28 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26598 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maryse.simard, Signed Off , Display guarantee's fines on guarantor's details page 14:29 cait they actually look to be quite separte on first glance - the other 2 guarnator ones 14:29 cait not dependency linkd 14:30 * ashimema is looking at bug 26597 at the moment 14:30 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26597 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maryse.simard, Signed Off , Transfer information from guarantor when adding a guarantor to an existing patron 14:30 cait i am on 24083 now 14:30 ashimema mm 14:30 cait ah cool 14:30 ashimema coulnd't help myself 14:30 cait please go on :) 14:32 ashimema bug 26398 and bug 25596 would be nice ot see move 14:32 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26398 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Credit and Debit types on creating a manual credits and manual invoices are not translatable 14:32 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25596 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , "Overpayment refund" is not translatable 14:33 ashimema problem is.. as much as I understand how to fix them.. I'm struggling to write a meaningful test plan 14:33 ashimema any tips cait? 14:34 cait agree on wanting to see them move... have refrained from signing as I didn't want to make them stuck 14:34 cait oleonard has written some nice test plans for the message translation ones 14:34 ashimema I think you're one of very very few people who 'get it' with regards those.. 14:34 cait maybe you can steal from him? 14:34 ashimema I also think they're simple enough you could just straight QA them personally... 14:34 cait i am going to the issues one then maybe can move on to those 14:34 caroline I,ll try to test 14:35 cait oh great caroline 14:35 cait ashimema: i filed another last night 14:35 ashimema also.. bug 22394 would be an easy SO for someone 14:35 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22394 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Remove C4::Accounts::manualinvoice 14:35 ashimema just grep the codebase for manualinvoice 14:35 cait bug 26697 14:35 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26697 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Types and descriptions of charges only show in English in the OPAC 14:36 cait i think this one is major because OPAC 14:36 ashimema really.. 14:36 cait i found it while testing the cancel feature 14:36 cait maybe i am mistaken, but it didn't look good compared to staff yesterday 14:36 ashimema that's really odd.. 14:36 ashimema there is such an include in the OPAC too 14:36 ashimema and I keep resyncing them 14:36 ashimema hmm 14:36 cait i didn't find it when looking for the cancellation one 14:36 cait maybe it WAS me 14:37 cait but would be happy if you oculd have a look and prove me wrong about the bug (always am) 14:37 ashimema account-table.inc 14:37 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 14:37 wahanui Congratulations! 14:37 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9 build #99: FIXED in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9/99/ 14:38 ashimema hmm.. 14:38 ashimema I'll take a look 14:38 cait probably the cancel one nees another follow-pu then too-1 14:38 cait ! 14:38 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #96: SUCCESS in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D10/96/ 14:38 ashimema yup 14:38 ashimema probably 14:38 wahanui it has been said that probably is too hard. 14:38 cait hi ivandz 14:43 cait hm change of plans - back to ill notices :) 14:43 wahanui cait: that doesn't look right 14:43 ashimema :) 14:46 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9_My8 build #90: UNSTABLE in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9_My8/90/ 14:48 ashimema cait 14:48 ashimema I just installed fr-FR and none of the terms are translated yet.. but the code is there.. 14:49 ashimema the 'status' strings are however. 14:49 ashimema I could however split it out into it's own include.. to match that of the staff client 14:49 ashimema that might be a nice idea 14:52 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U16 build #82: SUCCESS in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U16/82/ 14:54 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U16 build #89: STILL FAILING in 1 min 37 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U16/89/ 15:01 cait ashimema: not quite following - none of them translated doesn't sound so good 15:01 cait oh 15:01 cait you mean the translations are missing in po files 15:01 ashimema they're all there ready and waiting 15:01 cait are they new with 20.05? gemran is complete as of 20.05 release... but every added or changed after would be missing right 15:01 cait that's a relieve 15:01 cait would you mind doing a follow-up for the cancel patch? 15:01 ashimema yup.. they're a 20.05 thing 15:01 ashimema sure 15:02 caroline what is the difference between a payout and a payment? 15:02 cait direction :) 15:02 caroline Google translate gives me the same word in french... 15:02 ashimema payment is when a patron pays for something 15:02 cait payout is the lirary giving the patron money 15:02 ashimema payout is when the library pays the patron for something 15:02 caroline so like a reimbursement? 15:02 ashimema yup 15:02 ashimema exactly 15:02 cait i think probably most likely for a credit when they are leaving 15:03 caroline ok I'll use the word for reimbursement then 15:03 ashimema :) 15:03 caroline I'm juste translating everything that has "Credit" because I don't see a difference between patch and no patch hehe 15:03 ashimema good plan 15:03 ashimema thanks caroline 15:04 ashimema brb.. got my covid survey to fill in 15:04 oleonard ashimema I hope you give covid a very poor rating. Zero out of five stars. 15:04 caroline hm... what is the difference between payout and refund? 15:05 caroline oleonard lol! 15:11 ashimema hehe 15:11 ashimema ok.. 15:11 ashimema so a payout is the literal handing over of cash from library to patron 15:11 ashimema how you are 'owed' that can come about in a few ways.... including a 'refund' 15:12 ashimema process wise 15:13 ashimema patron gets an overdue fine -> patron returns item on closed day -> patron pays overdue fine in full -> staff backdates return -> oops, patron payed too much, system adds 'refund' credit to patrons account -> patron decides to leave the library forever -> librarian issues a 'payout' of the 'refund' credit that's on the patrons record. 15:14 ashimema man that makes it sound complicated.. but it's one of the route that may result in a payout 15:14 ashimema a payout is an oddity in the system in so much as it looks like a 'debit' on the patrons account because of the way the maths works 15:15 ashimema caroline.. does that all make sense? 15:15 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U20 build #97: SUCCESS in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U20/97/ 15:16 caroline So the payout is the "physical" changing of hands of the money (like "payment" but the other way around) and "refund" is the credit type (like "fee" but the other way around)? 15:17 ashimema exactly 15:17 ashimema did you see the comment I wrote up for cait the other day trying to explain all the different system types as they currently stand? 15:17 caroline hum... ok... I don't think we have a different word for it in French, which might create a confusion 15:18 caroline I'll check with marie-luce see if she has any ideas 15:18 caroline ashimema: no I didn't 15:18 ashimema I'll dig it out 15:18 ashimema and at some point if oyu point me to an appropriate part of the manual to add it I'll happily do something for that 15:19 ashimema https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24603#c20 15:19 huginn Bug 24603: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Passed QA , Allow to cancel charges in patron accounting 15:19 ashimema it's that comment 15:20 cait bug 22818 15:20 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22818 new feature, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Passed QA , ILL should be able to send notices 15:20 cait ;) 15:20 ashimema :D 15:21 cait i added 3 little follow-ups 15:21 cait switch a word in prefs and adding a hint on the library page, hopw they are agreeable :) 15:22 caroline ashimema: cool, I'll keep it aside and see where it can fit in the manual 15:24 ashimema :) 15:24 ashimema sounds good to me cait 15:24 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U18 build #87: SUCCESS in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U18/87/ 15:30 cait kidclamp or khall: would you be able to help me with the SIP bit of the test plan on bug 24083? 15:30 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24083 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Signed Off , Koha should support "seen" vs "unseen" renewals 15:31 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D11 build #47: UNSTABLE in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D11/47/ 15:33 cait could someone sanity check my comment on bug 26340? 15:33 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26340 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ivan.dziuba, Failed QA , When printing labels from a barcode range, keep zero padding 15:35 oleonard This new "css_and_scss_in_sync" message from the QA tool makes my tests less satisfying 15:35 ashimema hehe. 15:35 ashimema I found the same oleonard 15:36 * cait needs a brain break 15:49 ashimema down to 7! 15:49 ashimema right.. on that note I think it's time for me to clock out 15:49 ashimema have a good weekend #koha 15:49 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 15:49 wahanui Congratulations! 15:49 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U20 build #121: FIXED in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U20/121/ 15:53 cait i just took a screenshot :) 15:54 cait same for me for now I am afraid - will get busy with baking for a bit to reset the brain 15:54 cait have a nice weekend everyone! 15:54 cait and great job! 15:56 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9 build #100: SUCCESS in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9/100/ 16:15 smrt hi is anyone else having the issue where the login modal isn't focus trapped? I checked the demo OPAC on biblibre (bywater's demo seems to in "testing") and when I try navigating with keyboard only, the focus jumps out of the modal and onto the links and buttons of the main page. or has this bug been reported? I can't seem to find it if it was. 16:20 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 16:20 wahanui Congratulations! 16:20 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9_My8 build #91: FIXED in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9_My8/91/ 16:28 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #97: ABORTED in 1 hr 3 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D10/97/ 16:30 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9 build #101: FAILURE in 2 min 24 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9/101/ 16:34 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U20 build #98: SUCCESS in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U20/98/ 16:45 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U16 build #83: SUCCESS in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U16/83/ 17:06 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U18 build #88: SUCCESS in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U18/88/ 17:11 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #98: SUCCESS in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D10/98/ 17:11 lukeG Have a great weekend Koha! :) 17:19 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9_My8 build #92: SUCCESS in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9_My8/92/ 17:24 tuxayo smrt: «login modal isn't focus trapped» Have your already seen it trapped? 17:25 tuxayo To know if there is a regression of it it's a UX issue. 17:28 oleonard There is a bug filed just the other day: Bug 26695 17:28 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26695 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Set focus for cursor to login box on the login popup modal 17:29 oleonard ...but I don't find that the keyboard focus moves behind the modal. In my test the focus goes first to the "X" button and then to the login field. 17:31 smrt oh yeah that's fine but if you keep pressing tab past the last part of the modal it goes to what's behind the modal. if you go to the example modal section on bootstrap 2.3.1 tabbing stays within the modal no matter how many times you tab 17:34 oleonard What version are you on smrt? 17:35 smrt 19.11 17:36 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U20 build #99: SUCCESS in 51 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U20/99/ 17:38 smrt And I just checked it on the Catalyst demo OPAC it's doing the same thing on 20.05. tabbing leaves the modal and cycles through the rest of the page after tabbing past the login button in the modal. 17:38 oleonard smrt I can reproduce that problem in 19.11 and 20.05. It will be fixed in 20.11 where a new version of Bootstrap is used. 17:39 smrt oh thank god. i was wondering when an update was coming to bootstrap in koha. 17:39 smrt I've been fighting 2.3.1 for years. lol 17:39 smrt is there an ETA on it? 17:42 tuxayo «Gratulation, Sie haben den Prozess abgeschlossen und können nun Koha nutzen» 17:42 tuxayo yay finally installed Koha for the first time after 3 years working on it XD 17:43 tuxayo (I think I installed it, because I did the install in German, which I don't understand at all. It was for a German related patch) 17:44 tuxayo And I almost got locked outside due forgetting the credentials I elected ^^" 17:47 oleonard smrt: "20.11" means November 2020 :) 17:48 oleonard Currently the exact date is 2020-11-27, but that is subject to change. 17:50 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 17:50 wahanui Congratulations! 17:50 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D11 build #48: FIXED in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D11/48/ 17:52 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 17:52 wahanui Congratulations! 17:52 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9 build #102: FIXED in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9/102/ 17:56 smrt oh lol makes sense 17:56 smrt thanks everyone for the help and info 17:58 tuxayo smrt: the Bootstrap update came thanks to the work of oleonard :D . Help is very needed on UI stuff. 17:58 tuxayo Are there by any chance enhancements or fixes that you have at your library but could benefit everyone? 17:59 * tuxayo tries to sneakingly recruit in order to double the Koha UI team 18:03 smrt oh lolol im not sure anyone would want to use my enhancements they are very hacky-ish. 18:04 smrt "enhancements" 18:04 oleonard But if they are solutions you felt were necessary they could be filed as bugs to get a less hacky-ish fix. 18:04 oleonard ...assuming they're not changes which are only relevant to your library 18:06 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U16 build #84: SUCCESS in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U16/84/ 18:13 smrt Well for one thing our production server is still on 3.16 so most of the "enhancements" have been fixed by 19.11. and I'm pretty sure they are changes only relevant to our library (grouping item types by branch in advanced search is one example that im pretty sure no one else needs) 18:14 caroline smrt: It's interesting 18:15 caroline I wonder if it's doable now by limiting the itemtypecat authorised values by library 18:15 caroline smrt: can you share the link? I'm curious what it looks like 18:16 smrt haha yeah sure it's nothing fancy just a ton of jquery https://mbcsc.edu.gov.mb.ca/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl 18:17 caroline very cool! 18:18 caroline that is not currently possible with the latest version, but it's a very interesting feature 18:19 caroline are you in Winnipeg? 18:19 smrt hah thanks. and yeah its basically all done in opacuserjs and yup we are 18:20 caroline how the covid situation over there? I'm in Montreal and it's pretty bad since a couple of weeks 18:21 caroline thankfully my job is easy to do remotely and none of my family have been affected, so I consident myself very lucky 18:21 caroline good morning davidnind! 18:22 smrt hah yeah i think we just passed you guys in per captia infections but I've been mostly working from home since this all started. 18:24 davidnind greetings from New Zealand caroline! 18:31 oleonard caroline: Almost as many new cases were reported in my state, Ohio, as were reported in your whole country yesterday :( 18:32 caroline yeah, it seems pretty bad in the US right now... and not just with the covid :/ 18:32 caroline I hear almost more news from the US than news from here when I listen to the news (which is not often, because it's too depressing) 18:33 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U18 build #89: SUCCESS in 56 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U18/89/ 18:33 tuxayo Does anyone know if the huge list of fields here makes sense? 18:33 tuxayo https://pic.infini.fr/JHrci3To/UHx5YN5W.png 18:33 oleonard I deliberately try to avoid the news and I still get too much. 18:34 tuxayo It's the ACQ framework of an install all by default. 18:34 oleonard That link didn't work tuxayo 18:34 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #99: SUCCESS in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D10/99/ 18:35 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9_My8 build #93: SUCCESS in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9_My8/93/ 18:35 tuxayo oleonard: indeed! https://pic.infini.fr/ar8l5wWx/GXuOcOzN.png 18:36 caroline tuxayo: this is for MARC21 right? 18:36 tuxayo Yes 18:37 caroline this is the entire ACQ framwork? 18:37 caroline Or only the authors? 18:37 tuxayo MARC subfield structure admin for 100 18:38 tuxayo From basic knowledge of framework I would say yes. 18:39 caroline what is Siehe auch? (See also?) 18:39 tuxayo (just found out that the english translation was also enabled now I can understand the UI) 18:39 tuxayo caroline: yes! 18:39 caroline then yeah, see also is ok 18:42 tuxayo caroline: thanks, so it was just of effect of doing everything blindly regarding to the language ^^ 18:42 tuxayo Now I know the feeling of non-english speakers when in a situation without translation at all. 18:43 caroline lol! 18:43 caroline I tested a swedish bug last week and forgot to switch back my opac.... I was reallly surprised when I opened it yesterday 18:45 tuxayo ^^ 18:47 tuxayo First time trying the installer, it seems great. That also says something about it to be able to make a quick and dirty install basically without knowing how to read. 18:47 tuxayo (which undermines the relevance the use of an ILS and the library :P ) 18:47 caroline lol! 18:50 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U20 build #100: UNSTABLE in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U20/100/