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21:44 aleisha       hello
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19:07 davidnind     Thanks tcohen! (Just read the message for Jonathan on koha-devel)
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19:06 wahanui       Congratulations!
19:06 koha-jenkins  Yippee, build fixed!
19:06 tcohen        davidnind yes, you need to apt install libplack-middleware-logwarn-perl
19:01 davidnind     Has something broken master with koha-testing-docker? I did a git pull for koha and now my browser is just twiddling it's thumbs saying waiting for 127.0.0.1 (works okay if I checkout 20.05.x)...
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18:38 kidclamp      i.e. is already broken, 5697 doesn't break it
18:36 kidclamp      rather than use the coumn alias, just hardcode the correct variable name into the above and the one for batch item deletion
18:36 kidclamp      https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/ns234wzK/
18:35 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23197 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Add more batch operation options to SQL report results
18:35 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23390 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, RESOLVED FIXED, Add placeholder syntax for column names
18:35 kidclamp      oleonard it looks like when I wrote bug 23390  I didn't take  bug 23197 into account
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18:24 huginn        Bug 25942: normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Batch biblio operations on report results
18:24 kidclamp      oleonard https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25942 may be related?
18:00 kidclamp      ah,one is an array, the second is looping that array, so should be set
17:59 kidclamp      trying to understand and remmber what I did :-)
17:59 kidclamp      [% IF header_ro.has_itemnumbers
17:59 kidclamp      [% SET header_row.$place.has_itemnumbers = 1 %]
17:57 kidclamp      looking
17:55 oleonard      kidclamp I was hoping you could look at my patch sometime and see if you could advise me
17:54 kidclamp      :-)
17:54 oleonard      When I assume I make an ass out of me and myself.
17:53 oleonard      (I was assuming, and didn't remember to test)
17:53 oleonard      When I wrote the patch for 5697 I thought I was working with the right template checks to allow the placeholder system to work with my patch, but I guess not
17:52 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5697 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Automatic linking in guided reports
17:52 oleonard      And Bug 5697
17:52 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23390 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, RESOLVED FIXED, Add placeholder syntax for column names
17:52 oleonard      kidclamp, I have a question about Bug 23390
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17:32 * kidclamp    waves at oleonard again
17:23 tcohen        back
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17:00 kidclamp      Fair enough. I have to run to pickup kid from school, will be back shortly
17:00 oleonard      Hey kidclamp, sorry, I got distracted because my kids started watching E.T. and I was mesmerized.
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16:31 reiveune      bye
16:30 * kidclamp    waves at oleonard
16:15 Vero          for example
16:14 Vero          Item types, first
16:14 Vero          refine your search, how to change the position
16:12 tcohen        hi
16:11 Vero          hi
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16:01 oleonard      thx
16:01 kidclamp      Bbiab oleonard
15:45 oleonard      kidclamp around?
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15:14 SiteGuarding  how to reset or get the password for http://xxxx-intra.yyyyyyyyyy/cgi-bin/koha/mainpage.pl  admin access
14:47 huginn        Joubu: The operation succeeded.
14:47 Joubu         @later tell mtj can you add libplack-middleware-logwarn-perl to our package dependency list please?
14:43 Joubu         ha, maybe it's me who is misremembering something then!
14:42 ashimema[m]   just sorting out the kids first
14:42 ashimema[m]   I'll take a look shortly
14:42 ashimema[m]   Happy to test if I mis-remembered of course
14:42 ashimema[m]   I thought we discussed it prior to you going away but left it with something still to do
14:41 ashimema[m]   sorry Joubu
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14:17 Joubu         tig
14:14 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11176 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Pushed to master , Purchase suggestions should respect the 'active' switch on budgets
14:14 fridolin      Bug 11176 concieved in 2013 whaooo old
14:14 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26425 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Fix history.txt once and for all
14:14 Joubu         You forgot bug 26425
14:14 wahanui       rumour has it ashimema[m] is requestion a new build for the 3 projects, let's see if it fixes the failures :)
14:14 Joubu         ashimema[m]!
14:11 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 15437: MARC21: Show $i for 780/785 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a03e4f485a351f73015a39346ee0738217016f0a>
14:11 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 17458: Remove use of datereceived from order receive page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d924e892a897b723664aa950938f1fbc06e7e3a4>
14:11 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 16357: Override __WARN__ in Plack to use Log4Perl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=57c62a612d7a8c590a2b5ef0ce75d9915471e19a>
14:11 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 16357: Use separate Log4Perl logger for each Plack app <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ef021268bbe9519ac3eb070450591c2b761ac1c3>
14:11 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 26224: Prevent double submit of header check in form <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5d5a49a7ef165b7b47dda6357aaf2953dacfa362>
14:11 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 26249: Set keep_text class correctly in cat-search.inc <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=81b14467af36424183fbf2d3a281262e63d441fa>
14:11 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 16357: Plack error logs are not time stamped <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=79b2b85f82875664e47cfff1cf1922605f94b03c>
14:10 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 16357: (QA follow-up) Only initialize Log4perl module <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0bc0aa708c5903c8ae2b7c45643600d0fc59ae03>
14:10 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 16357: (QA follow-up) Add log4perl configs during package upgrade <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5651facf0574f028250aeb8f30d6d8e2a5ebaabe>
14:10 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 16357: Only use Log4perl middleware if appenders defined <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=68ec27562fbb89c68058505b35c14aab7accc7fb>
14:10 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 25624: Add --where option to update_patrons_category.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=aa8ee99fb77f3de1904efe52d0bbd847cc4e63aa>
14:10 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 15437: (follow-up) Move $i subfield display to the beginning and add OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ed6d0d42a79a6b553f6945b8b0f041bf7177e925>
14:10 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 23485: Show barcode in holds to pull <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fe84c3acba33af7a2fb27643f6b5f9129c329b36>
14:10 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 26478: Display issue with buttons on the self checkout screens <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e8522d8231ad096f4cc25b2a7aee8466d03c5bc2>
14:10 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 11223: Fix the ind1 semantics for 785 in the staff interface <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=80993795ddf7c7b3c37262dc5f10a9771e5eaa37>
14:10 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 26512: Display issue with buttons for OPAC checkout note <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5baffbee313c8d70d9abe9517fd9d4fda6efe9cd>
14:10 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 11176: Add active switch on budgets select in suggestions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8dca36661d7cca5a60aaacc44d2e6a774f78da7a>
14:10 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 24780: Make items.stocknumber show up in batch item modification <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0afcf3936a6ceeb865fdf0159cf54618400847d7>
14:10 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 26323: (QA follow-up) Fix syntax errors <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bd6598d018d0a27b0704aed95e299f6fe0f1c2c1>
14:10 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 26556: (bug 25070 follow-up) Fix typo data_addressfield in address includes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a0e4e3b5f87fc4fa2af78ec1749429921e5e5ae9>
13:55 fridolin      patch added
13:54 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26556 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, ASSIGNED , Cities autocomplete broken in patron edition
13:54 fridolin      Bug 26556
13:54 fridolin      oh what a typo 26556
12:55 ashimema[m]   thanks everyone
12:46 ashimema[m]   I agree
12:46 ashimema[m]   indeed
12:46 kohaputti     How we have used these frameworks is to provide more specialised way of doing cataloguing by hiding some fields from the editor
12:45 kohaputti     a safe bet here would be frameworks+field+subfield, the meaning cannot change between different frameworks, can it? Also, why even allow changing the descriptions for each framework separately
12:45 ashimema[m]   that indeed brings me back around to having a fallback system for when the most specific translation doesn't exist
12:44 ashimema[m]   frameworks, vs. frameworks+field, vs frameworks+framework+field vs frameworks+framework+field+interface.. as your key
12:43 ashimema[m]   it's all about how much context we want I suppose.. picking your key
12:42 ashimema[m]   though it's only at the 'field' context level
12:41 ashimema[m]   hmm.. that does indeed make sense
12:38 kohaputti     so not the best example but someone could do it like this...
12:38 kohaputti     I mean you could translate Kunto also as Tila I guess
12:38 kohaputti     ashimema[m], maybe 013e and 583l could use different translations in finnish, 583l = "Kunto" and 013l = "Tila"
12:35 ashimema[m]   av's are a weird case because they're so flexible
12:34 ashimema[m]   because to me, it is perfectly plausible to have a distinct meaning for the same word over two categories.. the category adds the context
12:34 ashimema[m]   or rather av_$category-$string
12:33 ashimema[m]   so av_category-$string
12:33 severine_q    Hi Joubu :)
12:33 ashimema[m]   I would say 'group' = av_category
12:32 Joubu         For AVs, will we fetch the translation string with av-$string, or av-av_category-$string?
12:31 ashimema[m]   any framework
12:31 ashimema[m]   just that it's a string in a framework
12:31 kohaputti     the issue could be inside the framework itself too
12:30 kohaputti     ok, I will try to find some for you :)
12:30 ashimema[m]   as it stands.. there is nothing to say which framework it's from
12:30 ashimema[m]   that's the exact question we're trying to answer kohaputti
12:30 Joubu         I don't have one
12:30 kohaputti     ashimema[m], is there anything in the db to define which marc subfield it is, or just component = frameworks and text = "Title statement" (for 245 field)?
12:30 ashimema[m]   can you give me an example of an AV where it would?
12:29 ashimema[m]   it jsut doesn't logically make sense to me
12:29 ashimema[m]   so having two matching one's makes no sense
12:28 ashimema[m]   we always display 'description' in the dropdowns..
12:28 ashimema[m]   how would the user pick the right AV when assigning it ?
12:28 ashimema[m]   I can't see how having two AV's with matching descriptions would ever be OK...
12:27 ashimema[m]   still trying to get a good example for AV's too
12:27 ashimema[m]   you can change your 245 to be 'Article title' if you want and you'd get 'Article title' as a translatable string.
12:27 Joubu         Hi severine_q!
12:26 Joubu         The problem IMO is more for AVs
12:26 ashimema[m]   say the default frameworks description 245 as 'Title'.. and then you have a Article framework..
12:25 severine_q    Hello #Koha !! It's been a long time :)
12:25 * ashimema[m] isn't good at picking marc fields so the following examples are contrived
12:25 ashimema[m]   so.. for frameworks as the example
12:25 kohaputti     ok good, just wanted to make sure the strings for frameworks and itemtypes are separate
12:25 ashimema[m]   then the string is just the text to translate
12:25 ashimema[m]   group is the koha component.. so 'frameworks, itemtypes, avs
12:25 kohaputti     and group contains what?
12:24 ashimema[m]   id, group, text
12:24 kohaputti     so there is group and key, how do those look like?
12:24 kohaputti     this one from the bug report: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=102688 ?
12:23 kohaputti     what is the schema of this table?
12:23 ashimema[m]   as the full string
12:23 ashimema[m]   complex code is code people will end up not maintaining/understanding and useing
12:23 kohaputti     ashimema[m], how would the translation be stored to db for framework description?
12:22 ashimema[m]   I'm happy to be wrong.. but wanted to make sure I was before continuing to complicate the code
12:22 ashimema[m]   when words have multiple meanings in english they also need context to work out what they mean... so I think you'll have that context included by the very nature of how the system works..
12:22 ashimema[m]   cait talks about 'list item' and 'loanable item'.. but in the frameworks case I think you would always have the 'list' and 'loanable' part of the string as context.. I can't see any examples where it's just the single word 'item'..
12:20 kohaputti     hmm, I thought I saw example from cait about this
12:19 ashimema[m]   I have thought about the frameworks case and am still struggling to find one.. hence asking really
12:19 kohaputti     ashimema[m], so for itemtypes just storing the description once seems enough but for marc framwework field descriptions most likely not
12:18 kohaputti     ashimema[m], with itemtypes that sounds quite impossible indeed, but there was the example of marc framework subfield translations where this seems to be issue
12:13 tcohen        \o/
12:11 Joubu         hola tcohen o/
12:07 tcohen        wb Joubu
12:07 tcohen        morning
12:07 ashimema[m]   how would you pick which translation to use at the template level if you do have multiple translations for the same word
12:06 ashimema[m]   and conversly.. if you have an itemtype with a description 'item'.. surely the fact it's an itemtype gives you the context needed to pick the right translated term..
12:05 ashimema[m]   Why would you literally have two or more itemtypes with a description of simply 'item'..
12:05 ashimema[m]   yes.. I can see that 'item' may translate to multiple things in various langauges.. but surely there's context associated with it that would mean the whole string was different for those cases
12:03 ashimema[m]   reading back
12:03 ashimema[m]   sorry, got called away
11:37 Joubu         that may fix the problem
11:37 Joubu         you can try to restart koha-common
11:37 SiteGuarding  thank you will try
11:37 Joubu         /var/log/koha/$instance
11:37 Joubu         in the Koha log files
11:36 SiteGuarding  how to findout where is the issue?
11:36 SiteGuarding  but other perl scripts works correct on the server
11:36 SiteGuarding  hello. koha gives "Internal Server Error" and cant load web installer interface http://siteglib.koha.safetybis.com/
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11:22 kohaputti     To reduce the amount of manual work there could be a tool to get suggested translations from the existing strings which are already translated, the same way we do in Pootle for other Koha translations.
11:18 kohaputti     ashimema[m], looks to me like the "unnecessary" duplication needs to be done (comment 20) or otherwise a new "meaning of string" column must be added.
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11:13 cait          or cancel
11:13 cait          there is a history of words that can have multiple meanings, issue too
11:13 cait          a list item and a loanable item are different things
11:13 cait          ashimema[m]: Item can have different translations in German
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11:04 ashimema[m]   adn the code is a bit cringy to read as is.. hense not posting it yet.. it's still experimenting
11:03 ashimema[m]   yet
11:03 ashimema[m]   db wise I have it resolved.. but I can't work out how to make a nice UX for it in the localizations page
11:03 ashimema[m]   I have a branch that works toward solving that issue
11:01 Joubu         ashimema[m]: I don't think it's a good idea to have such limitation. If we go with it anyway, this limitation should be visible on the interface. So far what I describe in comment 16 is not conceivable
11:01 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26551 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , When importing a framework, the modal heading is too long and runs outside of the dialog
11:01 davidnind     oleonard: cait has already added bug 26551 for the issue, I've added a screenshot - is in 20.05.x as well (but not in 19.11.x), so not related to the Bootstrap 4 update.
11:00 ashimema[m]   around comment 20
10:59 kohaputti     ok, will check in a bit
10:58 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24975 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, In Discussion , Refactor database translations
10:58 ashimema[m]   bug 24975
10:58 kohaputti     ashimema[m], is there a bug report relating to this question you are asking? I could take a look to fully understand the problem here.
10:57 ashimema[m]   and feel that should be a followup (and I have code that could add that in a next bug)
10:56 ashimema[m]   I can understand the case for plural forms
10:56 ashimema[m]   can you give an example of an itemtype that may need more than one translation for the same description?
10:54 kohaputti     and the language that the string is being translated to might be less ambiguous than what english is
10:52 kohaputti     yup, if the same string is in different contexts it can have different meaning
10:52 Joubu         "Item"
10:49 ashimema[m]   for the same language that is.
10:49 ashimema[m]   I'm still struggling to see a use case for multiple translations for the same string
10:46 davidnind     I'm not sure of the correct protocol, I always add a note, but not really sure if it is required or helps...
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10:43 kohaputti     yeah, ok, I could do it in future to be more explicit
10:43 davidnind     kohaputti: I wasn't sure, so it is good to confirm that a message would have been sent by just changing the status
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10:41 kohaputti     davidnind, I noticed your message on bz whether the email notification goes for status change and for me it happens at least (and here I didn't want to pollute the discussion with comments about patch doesn't apply because that is pretty common case)
10:37 davidnind     okelelydokeley!
10:36 oleonard      A new bug with 20168 as a dependency
10:35 davidnind     oleonard: Do you have a general bug for Bootstrap 4 related issues? Or just add a new bu?
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10:13 oleonard      welcome back Joubu
10:13 oleonard      Hi all
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09:20 ashimema[m]   done :)
09:19 Joubu         new commits without conflicts is hard :)
09:18 cait          get out your aproved stamp then :)
09:17 ashimema[m]   they look reasonable to me :)
09:14 cait          (paidfor)
09:14 cait          ashimema[m]: should be nothing bad
09:12 * ashimema[m] has a horrible feeling there's going to be some horrible conflicts in his bugs
09:12 kohaputti     hopefully not too many merge conflicts
09:11 Joubu         slowwwwly
09:11 kohaputti     yay, patches going in :)
09:10 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 25265: Prevent double reindex of the same item in batchmod <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=88cb7f223d31716c20e8f9341c64594b28ada33f>
09:10 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 26231: Remove incorrect use of AddAuthority() when 001 present <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9622561636387ced932cc31e285d13cdba607c47>
09:10 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 25758: Return on_reserve over too_soon when not calling from automatic_renewals... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ff08e99965ccb60092b5bdd5181fd517e1fab161>
09:10 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 26434: Fix plugin dirs addition to @INC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dcdc72aee7d835c08ca3565a83a3dae7389a4f87>
09:10 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 26438: Rename temporary Koha::Item variables to avoid conflict <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=647e05d8265831a09f6c624928990cfd62896b39>
09:10 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 25265: Unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6f989338899a3a4fe0cf131f0c63ef79f69a7bf2>
09:10 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 25265: Rename skip_modzebra_update to skip_record_index <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=205d909a56f0170e1abf60bf880315e52f66fd21>
09:10 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 26505: Suspend hold modal broken in the OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ae21c3adb16c0604c995a08a4082c3d1d60ab822>
09:10 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 25265: Fix copy paste error for parameter <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a690ba2b26ef6247cdf336077311e4afb0e94473>
09:10 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 26510: Transport Cost Matrix editor doesn't show all data when HoldsQueueSkipClos... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=26ab04a3b383f5a9c88124625f8edc1c4cf1d816>
09:10 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 25265: (follow-up) Don't index malformed records <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a7dde763dcb4e6f4d9d8a61e754f48758cbd03a4>
09:10 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 25265: (QA follow-up) Add shebang to Indexer.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=47b594a3dcd59f13073716daf38696967d1faa77>
09:10 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 25265: (QA follow-up) Rename biblionumber in ModZebra, index_records <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=501b9ea33667c7fdd87fe356b9fab364c10ab383>
09:10 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 25265: (QA follow-up) Check server type in Elasticsearch::index_records <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d19572ea765dbf6c13ba1343433ed07729413248>
09:10 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 26384: Add .t extension to make the script executed by CI <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=36895fee3a5aaea9096f5edfba29b408eb6975db>
09:10 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 15933: Add +x to the script <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d716f2a18a7863f7b7f2e42fd8286b9982a52775>
09:10 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 16314: Compiled CSS <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d9815855bd6e442857fdae0c48335f9fe5d17507>
09:01 ashimema[m]   :)
09:01 ashimema[m]   just reading your comment now cait
09:00 cait          ashimema[m]: please look at the paidfor one first :)
09:00 * ashimema[m] tries to muster the courage to get back to the translations refactor bug again.. I wasn't happy with how I left it on my branch
09:00 cait          you will get to those bugs eventually
08:59 cait          no we are good i think
08:59 Joubu         about AVs?
08:59 ashimema[m]   everywhere is a bit scary at the moment :(
08:59 Joubu         cait did you have a question for me?
08:59 ashimema[m]   lol
08:59 * cait        sends cookies
08:59 Joubu         not because of the 109 PQA bug reports, but because Madrid looks scary :D
08:58 Joubu         yup totally, but already stressed to be back
08:58 ashimema[m]   good break I hope Joubu.. feeling refreshed :)
08:56 cait          ah good, got worried you ran away :)
08:56 Joubu         yes
08:56 cait          Joubu: are you still there?
08:56 ashimema[m]   haha.. I can't complain.. I am the typo king
08:56 ashimema[m]   the real differentiating factor is that your's is the 'historical' list of checkouts
08:55 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21883 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Failed QA , Show authorized value description for withdrawn in check-in
08:55 ashimema[m]   bug 21883 I'm less sure about.. I think that one could more easily be a refactor job
08:55 cait          and sorry for all the typos, irc on the small screen today
08:55 ashimema[m]   totally
08:55 ashimema[m]   perfect cait.. that's exactly what I suggest in my comments
08:55 cait          because this is almost a bug and might be considered for backporting
08:54 cait          and propose the refactor as a deppendent bug below
08:54 ashimema[m]   I was just surprised it wasn't a thing out there
08:54 cait          i had thought maybe just change the auth value stuff
08:54 ashimema[m]   yeah.. all good
08:54 ashimema[m]   working through it this morning I felt that the suggested refactor could cause a real performance issue
08:54 cait          not against the feautre, just happy to learn new things and undertand better
08:54 ashimema[m]   I've commented on that bug now cait.. I think it needs a minor followup now as apposed to a full on refactor ;)
08:53 cait          just telling you why they might not care
08:53 cait          for the libraries
08:53 cait          as checkouts
08:53 cait          ashimema[m]: yes, but then we do reports that count both
08:53 cait          ashimema[m]: i didn't have time to rework it, but planning to
08:53 ashimema[m]   we do differentiate in our stats cait.
08:52 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18170 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Failed QA , Show damaged status on check-in
08:52 ashimema[m]   bug 18170
08:52 kohaputti     and well, the red ones are something we still have to implement from scratch or need more work before we can start using them.
08:51 cait          oh oops
08:51 kohaputti     cait, yes, the list is on that the page I linked above, yellow colored rows in the list.
08:50 cait          do you have a list of the "missing" things?
08:50 cait          i hope it will save you a lot of headachs in the future
08:50 cait          kohaputti++ congratulations
08:49 kohaputti     you can expect a lot more action in bugzilla after the migrations are finished :)
08:49 magnuse       kohaputti: cool!
08:48 cait          so it might not matter?
08:48 cait          hm the national stats does count renewals as checkouts i think
08:48 ashimema[m]   nice one :)
08:47 kohaputti     good morning! I wanted to share happy news that we have two libraries already using near community master version of Koha, only 17 patches / 5 features added on top of it, and around 13 more libraries coming in the next few months: https://www.kiwi.fi/display/KK/Update+schedule+and+progress+tracking
08:44 ashimema[m]   as it'll be recorded as a checkin/out as apposed to renewal?
08:44 ashimema[m]   really.. but does that not mess up the statistics
08:43 cait          so i might not have heard of it as a requirement
08:43 cait          i think what libraries probably do is just check them in and out again
08:43 cait          ok, so i understood that right
08:43 ashimema[m]   exactly
08:43 cait          to understand right... a seen renewal means that the person is presenting the booksß
08:43 ashimema[m]   the idea is to require the librarian see the item once in a while to make sure it still exists rather than it just getting renewed over and over again when it's actually been lost.
08:42 ashimema[m]   phone vs other renewals and such
08:42 ashimema[m]   yeah.. that's it..
08:42 ashimema[m]   ah, could be
08:41 cait          i know that our old ILS horizon could differentiate between phone renewals and such, but i think we never uesed it - it might be because i am mostly working with academics?
08:41 cait          ashimema[m]: i wouldn't pretend to not know :)
08:38 ashimema[m]   but I wouldn't have expected it to be a UK specific feature
08:37 ashimema[m]   It's part of the UK Core Spec here.. i.e. it's in pretty much every tender we respond to as a required feature.. we've got away with it to date but it's becoming more pressing
08:37 ashimema[m]   is it not a thing there?
08:37 ashimema[m]   cait, have you really never heard of seen vs unseen renewals in Germany>
08:37 ashimema[m]   welcome back Joubu
08:36 ashimema[m]   hi
08:11 cait          yeah... i am sorry we didn't get more done ;)
08:09 Joubu         pfiou 109 PQA bugs!
08:00 cait          welcome back Joubu :)
07:52 Joubu         hi #koha :)
06:52 fridolin      lets coffeeeeeeeee ;)
06:52 fridolin      summer is over
06:52 fridolin      feels like a rainy monday :(
06:51 fridolin      hi there
06:28 wahanui       hey, reiveune
06:28 reiveune      hello
06:00 huginn        cait: Joubu was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 2 days, 20 hours, 48 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <Joubu> I will be mostly afk for the next 2 weeks. Bye #koha :)
06:00 cait          @seen Joubu