Time Nick Message 06:30 reiveune hello 06:35 ashimema[m] Mornin' #koha 06:36 ashimema[m] @later tell tcohen for a bulk processing endpoint I would probably go the route of returning an 'accepted' response with a reference to a websocket one can connect to monitoring progress 06:36 huginn ashimema[m]: The operation succeeded. 06:37 fridolin yolo 06:39 ashimema[m] @later tell tcohen it's not really a restful resource as much as a RPC action 06:39 huginn ashimema[m]: The operation succeeded. 06:43 alex_a Bonjour 06:43 wahanui hi, alex_a 06:45 magnuse \o/ 07:04 cait1 good morning #koha! 07:31 lmstrand tcohen: You around? 07:34 lmstrand tcohen: I tried to update my koha plugins files with the ones in the git repo. Now when I try to install plugins I get "internal server error". The puligs show in the plugins page but they're not working like they should. What else would I need to update in order to get them to function properly? 07:34 lmstrand *plugins 07:35 lmstrand I wans hoping the koha/plugins folder with up-to-date files would be enough 07:35 lmstrand *was 07:37 lmstrand for example the kitchen sink demo produces "internal server error" when I run it. 07:37 lmstrand are there general logs for plugin errors somewhere? 07:38 magnuse lmstrand: too early for tcohen 07:38 magnuse i think the plack-error.log shoulod catch it, if you run under plack 07:38 magnuse otherwise the apache error log file 07:39 lmstrand k I'll take a look 07:40 cait1 lmstrand: i think there are other changes needed as your version is so ol 07:40 cait1 d 07:40 cait1 just copying in files will not work 07:40 cait1 from a newer version 07:41 lmstrand yeah... 07:41 cait1 the error will be visible in the normal logs 07:41 cait1 plack-error.log 07:41 cait1 but yep, tcohen is in Argentina, so a little too early for him 07:42 lmstrand [2020/09/22 09:43:19] [ERROR] Can't locate object method "InstallPlugins" via package "Koha::Plugins" at /home/koha/Koha/plugins/plugins-upload.pl line 101. 07:42 lmstrand [2020/09/22 09:43:46] [ERROR] Can't locate object method "output_html" via package "Koha::Plugin::Com::ByWaterSolutions::KitchenSink" at /home/koha/koha-dev/var/lib/plugins/Koha/Plugin/Com/ByWaterSolutions/KitchenSink.pm line 322. 07:44 lmstrand https://github.com/Koha-Community/Koha/tree/master/Koha/Plugins 07:44 lmstrand I sould update these as well 07:44 lmstrand *should 08:27 lmstrand nah, I give up. Too much to mess with 09:52 matts kidclamp, khall, jessicazairo Hi! It's a very nice youtube video on koha-testing-docker you made, very helpful, thank you :) 10:21 oleonard Hi #koha 10:30 Nemo_bis Hi oleonard 10:30 wahanui hi oleopard 10:30 Nemo_bis feline power 11:41 rhamby morning #koha 11:42 oleonard Hi rhamby 11:43 ashimema[m] Got a link to that matts? Sounds interesting 11:44 matts ashimema[m], sure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6_QlXkHqBc 11:45 ashimema[m] Ta. :) 11:53 lmstrand Is there a kohadevbox setup video tutorial :D 11:54 oleonard lmstrand does koha-testing-docker not work for you? 11:56 lmstrand haven't tried, I just need to be able to develop plugins and see how they work 11:56 lmstrand ijn the ui 11:57 lmstrand *in 11:58 oleonard koha-testing-docker is the more "modern" choice for setting up a testing environment 12:00 khall matts thanks! 12:36 ashimema[m] anyone fancy signing off some translation bugs? 12:36 ashimema[m] bug 26398 12:36 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26398 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Credit and Debit types on creating a manual credits and manual invoices are not translatable 12:36 ashimema[m] bug 25596 12:36 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25596 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , "Overpayment refund" is not translatable 12:36 ashimema[m] bug 26418 12:36 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26418 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , The "description" for REFUND accountlines is not translatable 13:07 oleonard I guess it would beat fighting with Bug 26505 ashimema[m]... 13:07 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26505 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Suspend hold modal broken in the OPAC 13:07 ashimema[m] yikes 13:07 oleonard (Something is breaking the datepicker inside the modal and I'm stumped so far) 13:07 ashimema[m] ooh.. hope that wasn't me 13:08 oleonard I'm assuming it was me :D 13:11 tcohen morning 13:15 pastebot "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "updatedatabase error from Bug 25596" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/25515 13:15 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25596 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , "Overpayment refund" is not translatable 13:15 oleonard ashimema[m] ^^ 13:15 ashimema[m] oops 13:15 ashimema[m] thanks 13:18 ashimema[m] fixed.. 13:18 ashimema[m] forgot the `_code` 13:59 oleonard jajm around? 13:59 jajm oleonard, yes 14:00 oleonard Hi. I'm curious, if Bug 26392 succeeds is your plan to do the same for the staff interface? 14:00 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26392 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Wrap all translatable strings in opac-main.tt 14:02 jajm oleonard, yes, run-time translation everywhere :) 14:03 oleonard Cool. Every time I look at a .po file I wonder how we've put up with such a messy system for so long 14:07 tuxayo oleonard: how much hundred of thousand of translator hours were lost due to duplicates or mistakes due to the confusion 14:07 tuxayo *or thousand 14:08 tuxayo And how much translator didn't start translating due to these scary thing in the string ^^ 14:08 tuxayo *strings 14:08 tuxayo jajm++ 14:08 oleonard I remember GeekRuthie giving a talk at KohaCon 2013 about this issue. I'm glad it's finally happening. 14:09 * GeekRuthie perks 14:09 oleonard GeekRuthie++ 14:10 GeekRuthie Hi, oleonard ! :) 14:10 tuxayo oleonard: great summoning powers you have there :) 14:10 tuxayo o/ GeekRuthie 14:11 GeekRuthie :) 14:13 * oleonard wonders if these summoning powers work on other things 14:13 oleonard I remember having a delicious BLUEBERRY SCONE one time! 14:14 * GeekRuthie would bake oleonard a blueberry scone, but hasn't any blueberries. 14:14 * oleonard wasn't ready for that much power anyway 14:15 * GeekRuthie offers toast with grape jelly instead. 14:21 ashimema[m] GeekRuthie++ 14:22 * ashimema[m] remembers that presentation too 14:22 ashimema[m] and is sad we've not improved it before now... sooooo many things 14:23 * ashimema[m] is happy that accessability in general is finally becoming a priority though :) 14:26 cait1 tuxayo: the po files are not going away i think, but might get a bit more readable? 14:27 * cait1 waves at GeekRuthie :) 14:27 * GeekRuthie waves frantically at cait1 14:33 ashimema[m] did I imagine a bug where transfers to receive didn't work with sql strict modes? 14:34 cait1 there are so many transfers bugs... 14:35 cait1 but there is an omnibus for the strict ones, did you check that? 14:35 * cait1 just had an online workshop about mostly acq questions and feels a bit brain dead :) 14:35 ashimema[m] ah no.. it was holds to pull 14:35 cait1 in a good way... hard but interesting 14:36 tuxayo cait1: «the po files are not going away i think» 14:36 tuxayo Indeed 14:38 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #295: UNSTABLE in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9/295/ 14:38 oleonard ashimema[m] I don't understand how to test Bug 25596 14:38 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25596 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , "Overpayment refund" is not translatable 14:38 tuxayo More readable and less duplicated due to some noise the string that makes then treated like 2 different ones. Like conditionals 14:38 tuxayo Maybe there is less duplication than I think 14:39 ashimema[m] hmm.. that's fair.. I'm not sure I do either 14:39 ashimema[m] I'll try to come up with a test plan.. bad ashimema for not having a decent one to start with 14:43 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_U18 build #298: UNSTABLE in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_U18/298/ 14:44 tuxayo Oh, it's that day where the CI on 19.05 always fails due to one test that 100% of the fails on these days. >< 14:44 ashimema[m] Hmm, hope that sort of helps.. that actual translation side of it always alludes me a bit.. I now recognise when things are translatable, but i'm not so good at working out how to actually prove it with a test. 14:45 ashimema[m] :( 14:45 ashimema[m] not good tuxayo 14:45 ashimema[m] I thought we'd nailed most of those 14:45 tuxayo indeed it seems 14:45 tuxayo This one is a trolly one. 14:47 tuxayo Tried to mock the date to reproduce without changing the system time but it didn't work. Hopefully I'll retry soon. 14:50 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3 build #44: UNSTABLE in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3/44/ 14:50 tuxayo koha-jenkins: yes i know! 14:50 koha-jenkins tuxayo did you mean me? Unknown command 'yes' 14:50 koha-jenkins Use '!koha-jenkins help' to get help! 14:52 tuxayo koha-jenkins whatever you say I'll release anyway! :P 14:52 tuxayo The countless other reliable tests weight more than this petty one. 16:35 reiveune bye 17:06 tuxayo Anyone around who has been RMaint at some point? 17:12 ashimema[m] I'm on the mobile whilst out.. what's up tuxayo? 17:14 tuxayo ashimema: Do you have notes about your backporting policy you used at the time you did RMaintnance? 17:14 tuxayo I'm collecting the eventually existing ones. 17:15 tuxayo It's ok to not have, I'm hunting for existing doc to compile. Not aiming to create new from scrach. 17:45 ashimema[m] I may have put them in my rmaint proposal 17:45 ashimema[m] Should be linked from the wiki teams page 17:58 tuxayo great! 18:38 lukeG @later tell mtj 20.05.04 tarballs are ready in my folder on http://download.koha-community.org/ 18:38 huginn lukeG: The operation succeeded. 18:46 ashimema[m] oleonard++ 18:46 ashimema[m] @karma 18:46 huginn ashimema[m]: Highest karma: "Joubu" (880), "cait" (816), and "ashimema" (559). Lowest karma: "-" (-64), "failed" (-43), and "ie" (-40). You (ashimema[m]) are ranked 63 out of 1061. 20:39 aleisha hello 20:40 oleonard Hi aleisha 20:40 lukeG1 Good morning Aleisha 20:40 aleisha morning both! 20:41 * oleonard has missed the entire first day of the koha-US online conf because of in-person work 20:56 lisettelatah the full conference video should be up sometime later today. Jason is going to also put up individual videos for each presentation this week hopefully. 21:00 gmcharlt why yes, a MARC record with over 1500 866 fields can indeed cause a bit of display indigestion in the MARC editor 21:01 mtj hey peeps 21:02 mtj hi aleisha: can you push your v20.05.04 tag to the sec repo 21:02 aleisha im 19.11 21:02 aleisha you want lukeG1 21:02 mtj oops, need more coffefe 21:03 aleisha heh 21:03 mtj hi lukeG1 :0) 21:05 lukeG1 mtj oops, ill do that right now 21:19 lukeG1 mtj: i added my tags and generated new tarballs, it should all be in my folder now 21:21 mtj ta lukeG1, can you push your tag to the sec repo too 21:21 mtj ..i build the packages from that tag 21:22 aleisha sorry both i have to go to a meeting in 5 minutes so if we aren't ready in the next 5 minutes , it will need to wait until i get back in one hour 21:23 lukeG1 mtj: i did push the tags 21:23 lukeG1 new/security-release-20.05.04 21:24 aleisha you need to git push security v20.05.04 as well lukeG1 21:24 aleisha you've pushed the branch but not the tag 21:24 aleisha i assume 21:25 lukeG1 thanks aleisha 21:25 lukeG1 I did pushed it to security 21:26 lukeG1 mtj: it should be there now, no? 21:26 mtj aah yep, is there 21:26 lukeG1 sorry bout that 21:28 mtj np, it might have been my mistake 21:28 lukeG1 no, it was mine 21:28 lukeG1 aleisha++ 21:30 aleisha sorry lukeG1 and mtj i have to go to this meeting but we can do the release in 1 hour when i return 21:32 lukeG1 aleisha: no problem! 21:34 tuxayo hi again #koha o/ 21:44 tuxayo For the 19.11 and 20.05 sec release, are they on lockstep only due to website post publication? 21:47 tuxayo lukeG1: Maybe I already asked you: 21:47 tuxayo Do you have notes about your backporting policy? I'm collecting the eventually existing ones. 21:47 tuxayo It's ok to not have, I'm hunting for existing doc to compile. Not aiming to create new from scrach. 21:47 tuxayo chris_n & talljoy around? 21:48 tuxayo oops I'm meant rangi instead of chris_n ^^" 21:50 talljoy i'm here 21:51 tuxayo talljoy: I'll be asking the same questions about RMaint policy as above :) 21:51 tuxayo (doing my homework ^^) 21:51 talljoy i do not have a backporting policy. it was very informal. new features never. enhancements maybe if they felt critical, but not if they were not mission critical. bug fixes, always. 21:51 lukeG1 Hey tuxayo: I do not have any official policy on backporting. I usually determine it on a case by case basis. I avoid most enhancements unless they are simple OR they include accessibility enhancements 21:52 tuxayo talljoy: thanks a lot for taking the time to write it here :) You were on oldstable right? 21:52 talljoy i was on 19.11 when 20.05 was being worked on 21:53 talljoy regular stable? 21:53 tuxayo lukeG1: thanks also, I'll try to compile all that to list the various approaches. 21:54 tuxayo talljoy: Indeed you were on stable, as your upstream was master. 21:55 talljoy yup. sounds right to me. :) 21:55 mtj hi folks, im about 10 mins away... 21:56 kathryn hey mtj :) I think aleisha will be a little longer than that 22:00 lukeG1 if mtj has the packages ready aleisha and I should be able to handle the rest upon her return :) 22:04 mtj no hurry for me 22:19 aleisha hi lukeG1 and mtj im here now 22:21 lukeG1 im here too 22:22 aleisha ready to push? 22:22 aleisha if the packages are built, mtj ? 22:23 mtj hi aleisha: yep 22:23 mtj i'll update the kc.org apt repo now 22:31 lukeG1 aleisha: im making my blog post public now 22:31 aleisha cool! pushing 22:33 tuxayo 🥳 22:35 tuxayo mtj++ 22:35 tuxayo aleisha ++ 22:35 tuxayo lukeG1 ++ 22:38 tuxayo IIUC the necessity to do everything in sync is because 22:38 tuxayo - package maint can't publish drafts of blog posts and can't push to the stable branches on the public repo 22:38 tuxayo - RMaints can't publish prepared packages on kc.org, can't publish blog posts from other RMaints and can't push to other RMaint's branches 22:39 mtj hokay, packages are up and happy 22:39 mtj ps: my upload speed is terrible :/ 22:41 aleisha mtj++ 22:41 lukeG1 mtj: should I see new tarballs here: https://download.koha-community.org/. ? 22:46 mtj lukeG1: i think the rmaints move the tarballs there ^ 22:46 lukeG1 right 22:47 aleisha or is it rmaint1? 22:47 lukeG1 ill move them all aleisha 22:47 mtj you should have unix perms to do that 22:47 aleisha wonderful, thank you lukeG1 ! 22:51 tuxayo yay 22:52 tuxayo lukeG1: your blog post is missing the "More entry" 22:59 lukeG1 aleisha: one thing I cannot do is publish your draft 22:59 aleisha no worries, will do that now myself 23:00 lukeG1 tuxayo: I don't understand what I'm missing, more entry? 23:01 tuxayo lukeG1: in the RMaint doc, the somewhat cryptic line «then add a More entry (that will split the announcement so it looks fine in the front page). » 23:02 tuxayo It's «<!--more-->» 23:02 tuxayo Looks at the source of the 19.05 of 19.11 announcements to see how we used it. 23:02 tuxayo gotta go o/ 23:03 aleisha bye tuxayo ! 23:03 aleisha tuxayo++ 23:03 aleisha oh tuxayo not sure if you saw my email about kohacon :) let me know if it didnt come through 23:08 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D10 build #78: SUCCESS in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D10/78/ 23:15 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D8 build #282: SUCCESS in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D8/282/ 23:17 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U18 build #246: SUCCESS in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U18/246/ 23:18 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 23:18 wahanui Congratulations! 23:18 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D9 build #252: FIXED in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D9/252/ 23:26 lukeG1 not sure why i cant tag my branch now 23:42 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U20 build #77: SUCCESS in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U20/77/