Time Nick Message 23:55 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9 build #90: STILL UNSTABLE in 59 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9/90/ 23:40 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9_My8 build #81: SUCCESS in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9_My8/81/ 23:27 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U16 build #73: ABORTED in 5 min 6 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U16/73/ 23:22 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D11 build #36: STILL UNSTABLE in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D11/36/ 23:21 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #84: SUCCESS in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D10/84/ 23:11 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U20 build #74: SUCCESS in 1 hr 13 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U20/74/ 22:57 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U16 build #72: SUCCESS in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U16/72/ 22:55 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U18 build #76: UNSTABLE in 58 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U18/76/ 22:48 aleisha thanks :) 22:46 cait lukeG++ 22:46 lukeG1 Ill go get it right now 22:46 lukeG1 cait: oh thank you! I did miss 25129 22:46 cait 2 bugs 22:46 cait thi sis installer 22:46 cait yep that's frameworks 22:45 lukeG1 cait: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=8e86f81b4130ce7d6a1e5556b2cfb1a2f19559d6 22:45 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25129 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to master , Update German (de-DE) web installer files for 20.05 22:45 cait bug 25129 22:44 cait can you consider the other de-DE one again? hope i didn't miss it 22:43 lukeG1 aleisha: Ive backported everything I need into 20.05, Im all caught up with master now 22:41 aleisha lukeG1: how are you going with backporting those string patches? 22:41 tuxayo So yep, we understood the same thing :) 22:40 tuxayo +1 22:40 aleisha never hurts to make sure! 22:40 tuxayo lukeG1: In the email from jonathan sent on "Wed, 9 Sep 2020 10:00:56 +0200" 22:40 lukeG1 Yup, just making sure! Thanks :) 22:40 aleisha those are always the dates unless we agree to change them, like we did last month 22:40 aleisha yup lukeG1 i believe that was the plan :) 22:39 ashimema[m] something along those lines in a notice that includes a patron object would magically add a charge to the patron every time it was triggered to send.. hehe 22:39 tuxayo IIUC yes 22:39 tuxayo lukeG1: «still about» ? 22:39 ashimema[m] [% patron.account.add_debit amount => 1.00, type => notice %] 22:39 lukeG1 for this month 22:38 lukeG1 Im wondering if we are going back to the normal schedule of 15th for string freeze and 22nd for a release 22:38 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9_My8 build #80: SUCCESS in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9_My8/80/ 22:38 ashimema[m] for anyone following along with my revelation there 22:38 aleisha whats up lukeG1 22:38 ashimema[m] cool 22:38 ashimema[m] for example.. you could in theory write a notice that added a cost to the patron every time it was sent out.. I like that actually.. hehe.. you could charge for notices without writing any code whatsoever in Koha to do it.. just by adding to the template 22:38 aleisha yup! 22:38 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9 build #89: UNSTABLE in 50 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9/89/ 22:38 lukeG1 tuxayo or aleisha still about? 22:37 ashimema[m] you can actually do some really horrible things come to think of it.. 22:37 * caroline is getting hangry at TT notices 22:37 ashimema[m] but also, not easy to document in a simple fashion just for templates 22:36 ashimema[m] basically.. once you open up using TT you have access to all the gory methods available to you from the Koha::Object you are passed.. which is very powerful 22:36 ashimema[m] in this case 22:36 ashimema[m] it's not really TT as much as it's Koha::Objects ;) 22:36 * ashimema[m] is happy to walk someone else through it too.. but not tonight.. I'm fixing a translations thing whilst I can't sleep 22:35 caroline i guess... I still don't understand TT, so it's hard for me to say... I do a lot of trial and error and copying from the wiki 22:35 ashimema[m] they're all sensible enough relations to want.. if you add a bug describing it I can have a go at adding the relations for you.. should be a fairly trivial set of patches when you know how 22:34 ashimema[m] does that make sense? 22:34 ashimema[m] which would mean.. for the ITEM give me the most recent CHECKOUT.. find the FINE attached to that checkout and finally give me the AMOUNTOUTSTANDING field (and then pass it through the $Price filter to make it look nice) 22:33 ashimema[m] [% item.checkout.fine.amountoutstanding | $Price %] 22:32 ashimema[m] what you would end up with (if the methods existed down the whole chain) would be 22:32 caroline blegh... and it's not possible to have hungry alligators in a FOREACH loop? 22:32 ashimema[m] we need more object relations for you to get there.. 22:32 ashimema[m] OK.. it's not possible.. yet 22:32 ashimema[m] something along the lines of [% item.checkout... %] 22:31 ashimema[m] I think you're going to have to dig a bit to get there 22:30 * ashimema[m] is digging 22:27 caroline ODUE 22:27 wahanui notice is, like, ACQORDER 22:27 ashimema[m] what notice? 22:26 * ashimema[m] is half asleep 22:26 cait ashimema[m] if awake would maybe know 22:26 cait not sure if you can yet 22:26 cait oh 22:26 caroline make it in Template toolkit instead of << >> 22:26 cait maybe 22:25 cait "current fine for the item"? 22:25 cait ? 22:25 cait what do you mean by translate 22:25 caroline since it's not an actual db column, I'm having a hard time with it 22:25 * ashimema[m] thinks the rmaints are doing great :) 22:24 caroline How do you translate <<items.fine>> in TT in notices? 22:19 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #83: SUCCESS in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D10/83/ 21:57 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U20 build #73: SUCCESS in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U20/73/ 21:49 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U16 build #71: SUCCESS in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U16/71/ 21:47 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D11 build #35: STILL UNSTABLE in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D11/35/ 21:42 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U18 build #75: SUCCESS in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U18/75/ 21:01 tuxayo lukeG: it's okay, it's hard to be upstream. For next cycle I'm worried that I wouldn't be ready to take something else than oldoldstable. 21:00 aleisha it's okay! easy to miss a step in the process when there are so many, especially that release :) 20:59 lukeG tuxayo, aleisha: sorry about that one. I think that was in the midst of last months security release and I just missed that one :( 20:57 aleisha but wasn't sure about that one 20:57 aleisha thanks lukeG - normally if i see you've missed updating the bug ticket i just do it for you 20:56 tuxayo 176 emails to go 20:56 tuxayo lukeG: I'm catching up bugzilla notifications and just found out we should have backported this for a while :o 20:53 lukeG http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=53c99fcb46b5486ff244cc2b07ba5fad28a3940d;hp=45e8f2f5c600094f90f938b1b30d81c236d10020 20:53 lukeG tuxayo: no issues, it looks like I just failed to update the bug ticket, will do that now 20:51 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3 build #24: STILL UNSTABLE in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3/24/ 20:50 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26253 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to master , duplicated mana_config in etc/koha-conf.xml 20:50 tuxayo lukeG it seems you backported Bug 26253 according to the branch but not to the ticket. Any issue/test failed? 20:48 lukeG tuxayo: i am around now :) 20:41 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_U18 build #278: SUCCESS in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_U18/278/ 20:40 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #276: SUCCESS in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9/276/ 20:33 tcohen ok, I can take a look tomorrow 20:33 cait i will bug someone else 20:33 cait heh it's ok 20:33 tcohen whatsup? 20:33 tcohen Was about close the lid 20:32 cait hm tcohen - do you have a moment? 20:18 tuxayo lukeGaround? 19:58 cait oleonard++ glad you understand my comments :) 19:22 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5697 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Automatic linking in guided reports 19:22 oleonard Bug 5697 19:12 oleonard ^ that bug will facilitate parts of this feature: https://zivotdesign.com/p/view.php?p=16001106769882 18:29 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26458 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Get item details using only itemnumber 18:29 oleonard Bug 26458 18:07 * oleonard waves to downstairs oleonard 18:02 tcohen thanks 18:02 tcohen ah! 18:02 oleonard you corrected it in pay.tt but not boraccount.tt. 18:01 oleonard tcohen if you're referring to cait's last comment on the bug, you're just missing a correction to the colspan of the table footer in boraccount.tt 17:56 tcohen thanks!! 17:56 oleonard I'll take a look tcohen 17:31 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26327 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Failed QA , Include transacting library in fines 17:31 tcohen oleonard can you help me with bug 26327? It seems cait doesn't like my design capabilities 17:24 cait bye all :) 17:24 cait oleonard: dating back to biblioitems or so? 16:40 oleonard I assume there's a way to get a biblionumber from an itemnumber... 16:38 oleonard I wonder if there's any reason why moredetail.pl couldn't accept just an itemnumber. 15:08 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23215 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Remove PayPal logic from Koha 15:08 cait tcohen: bug 23215 15:05 cait do we need a meeting or just a bug? 15:05 cait yes, I had seen it looked quite completed 14:55 tcohen and we used Koha's strings for the translation part 14:55 tcohen yeah, I think amoyano added a button to import the 'old' sysprefs into the plugin config 14:54 cait what is the next step? adding a deprecation warning ot the prefs etc? 14:54 cait do the work and talk about it ;) 14:52 tcohen this hasn't been advertised 14:52 tcohen you are right 14:49 tcohen and cannot 14:49 tcohen I'm trying to find it 14:49 cait I don't remember really, just a fan of clean-up 14:49 cait hm time to phase out the Koha side then? 14:48 tcohen cait I'm sure that was the case 14:48 cait i was wondering abut the relationship since i remembered your work ont he plugin 14:48 lukeG thanks tcohen! 14:48 cait tcohen: is this something we should make sure goes into release notes? deprecating/removing the old paypal code? 14:48 lukeG i see 14:47 tcohen you need to install the paypal plugin to your partner 14:47 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26193 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, lucas, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Allow for a minimum payment threshold when using PayPal OPAC Payments 14:47 tcohen bug 26193 14:47 tcohen hi lukeG ! 14:46 lukeG Good morning 14:17 ashimema[m] I'll drop them in my local branch 14:17 ashimema[m] aha.. I see 14:16 jajm ashimema[m], the patches should remove all calls to translated_description, but some might have been added since the last rebase 14:14 ashimema[m] I can't remember how it should look with your patchset.. but currently it calls a non-existant translated_descriptions method from the template 14:13 ashimema[m] as a side note.. I might have rebased wrong but the itemtypes admin page appears to be broken with your patchset as it stands 14:08 ashimema[m] my comment on the bug isn't great.. I was coming at it from trying to keep joubu happy by allowing optionally keying on code instead of description.. but although I think I can make it work.. it's going to end up messy and I feel.. pointless complexity 14:07 ashimema[m] generally I'm leaning more towards your keying on the text rather than a code.. I'm struggling to see reasoning behind Joubu's view that it needs to be keyed on codes.. (other than perhaps for plural type handling.. which I think we can certainly handle with some extra logic later on if needed 14:05 jajm ashimema[m], i can imagine it for itemtype, like a list of items grouped by itemtype: 1 book, 2 DVDs, ... but i don't know if it will be that useful 14:05 ashimema[m] for Joubu's case of having two AV's with matching descriptions.. I see that as a real odd case which we should probably just ignore/prevent double translations for such cases) 14:04 ashimema[m] and we english tend to cheat allot and just use one word to mean lots of things.. 14:04 ashimema[m] I can't envisage it for itemtypes (though I might be wrong.. I'm no linguist) 14:03 ashimema[m] i.e can we imagine ever needing/wanting to pass in a 'count' to get a plural from of an authorized value description? 14:03 ashimema[m] can we imagine any of our existing things that we want to add db level translation to (itemtypes, authorized values, frameworks perhaps) needing plural forms or masculine/feminine forms etc? 14:02 ashimema[m] not at the moment.. hence the question 14:02 jajm ashimema[m], what kind of extra data db_t should expect ? do you have a concrete example in mind ? 13:38 nlegrand tcohen, kohaputti thanks! I was more looking for documentation. I think this is what I was looking for: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Debian#Elasticsearch 13:17 magnuse document all the things! 13:16 kohaputti some wiki instructions would be good to have for this at some point I guess :D 13:15 kohaputti and then look what are the default files used for mappings, index, etc. and modify those to fit your needs 13:15 kohaputti nlegrand, you could grep the koha code for elasticsearch configs in koha-conf.xml like this: rgrep elasticsearch | grep config 13:13 kohaputti nlegrand, you could install the elasticsearch package for your distro and then analysis-icu plugin, then after that you need to define the elasticsearch server ip, port and some custom mappings and search index settings to be used in koha-conf.xml, otherwise your logs will be full of deprecation warnings. Then after it is all set change the syspref SearchEngine to ES and use koha-elasticsearch command line tool to rebuild the index. 13:05 ashimema[m] if so.. I think we should probably stick to a single db_t method, but get it to expect to be optionally passed extra levels of detail to allow a more refined selection of the translated text as and when required.. does that make sense? 13:03 ashimema[m] jajm ^ 13:03 ashimema[m] i.e. can you see a case where we might need db_tn, or db_tx or even db_tnx for example? 13:03 tcohen he 13:03 tcohen nlegrand we are using the koha/elasticsearch-icu docker image 12:59 nlegrand I mean for a production instance. 12:59 ashimema[m] the only case where I could see this becoming an issue.. and one wanting multiple translated versions of the same key text would be if we wanted to eventually support plural forms and things at a DB level of translations? 12:59 nlegrand where? 12:59 nlegrand What is today's standard to install ES? Is it written some 12:56 ashimema[m] Oops.. forgot to actually put jajm in the above comment 12:55 ashimema[m] Hmm, the more I think about it the more inclined to agree with you I am regarding using the "description" as the key for these translations.. I feel like if people want to refine the description for a particular interface or framework or whatever they should probably start by refining it in the primary language first and then work through translations accordingly 12:50 nlegrand Salut à tous et à toutes ! 12:48 tcohen morning 12:42 TimothyAlexis I'll look at it again tomorrow. 12:41 TimothyAlexis Thank you oleonard and ashimema[m] 12:14 ashimema[m] or as a self contained patch example: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/page.cgi?id=splinter.html&bug=24197&attachment=109552 12:10 oleonard and https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Database_updates 12:10 oleonard https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/System_Preferences 12:09 TimothyAlexis When creating a patch, how is a new system preference added into the database? 12:07 ashimema[m] oleonard++ 12:06 TimothyAlexis Thank you Owen 12:02 oleonard OPAC if it only affects the OPAC 11:51 TimothyAlexis Should it be under Administration or OPAC? 11:41 oleonard That seems like a reasonable idea 11:40 TimothyAlexis I added it to doc-head-close.inc, but I'm thinking it should be available in the System preferences. 11:39 TimothyAlexis <head><meta name="description" content="This description will show in search engine results." /></head> 11:38 TimothyAlexis meta description tag for search engines 11:38 oleonard TimothyAlexis can you explain more? 11:34 ashimema[m] ta, much apreciated 11:34 jajm ashimema[m], sure : https://gitlab.com/jajm/Koha/-/tree/bug/24975 11:33 TimothyAlexis Where should we enter meta name="description" ? 11:31 ashimema[m] any public repo would be good 11:31 * ashimema[m] didn't get to it on Friday 11:31 ashimema[m] I want to get a feeling for how it all fits together without the pain of trying to rebase it (or inflicting a rebase on you) 11:31 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24975 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, In Discussion , Refactor database translations 11:31 ashimema[m] any chance you could push a copy of your local bug 24975 branch? 11:30 jajm ashimema[m], yes 11:30 ashimema[m] jajm around? 11:30 ashimema[m] mornin' #koha 11:25 vfernandes that's it... :) thanks kohaputti 11:12 kohaputti vfernandes, check if NoticeBcc syspref is good enough for your purpose, otherwise you can configure your mail server to add the cc. 10:56 magnuse kia ora oleonard 10:44 oleonard Hi all 10:02 vfernandes it's possible to send all Koha emails with one CC email? 10:01 vfernandes hi #koha 07:59 magnuse \o/ 07:10 fridolin good moring you all 07:05 cait good morning #koha 06:52 * dcook waves 06:49 alex_a Bonjour 00:53 hughrun Hi is anyone around today?