Time Nick Message 04:33 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D8 build #273: SUCCESS in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D8/273/ 04:35 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U20 build #68: SUCCESS in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U20/68/ 04:44 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D9 build #244: SUCCESS in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D9/244/ 04:51 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U18 build #238: SUCCESS in 50 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U18/238/ 05:04 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D8 build #274: SUCCESS in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D8/274/ 05:16 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D10 build #72: SUCCESS in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D10/72/ 05:23 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U20 build #69: SUCCESS in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U20/69/ 05:40 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U18 build #239: SUCCESS in 35 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mornin' 09:48 * kidclamp waves 10:35 oleonard o/ 11:10 magnuse \o 11:58 fridolin war agains warns : Bug 26417 11:58 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26417 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Remove warn in Koha::Patron is_valid_age 11:58 fridolin ;) 11:58 fridolin agains+t 12:36 Joubu ¡Feliz navidad oleonard! 12:36 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20168: Remove li tags from OPACSearchForTitleIn for new installs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=94c68681181fee606a3c182c234511131dff641d> 12:37 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20168: DBRev 20.06.00.036 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=886d570e2686355b917bf3ca92c2dad029160352> 12:37 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20168: Compiled CSS <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eb7a8db2c085290e5a5af968909964fe230b23ba> 12:37 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20168: Consider opaclayoutstylesheet empty if 'opac.css' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=221a40282c9fdd2d14488121d47e1529ec19cfc2> 12:37 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20168: (follow-up) Add automatic creation of RTL CSS <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=00b1bf3c2cce46878cb12957a8af999e02ec7b40> 12:37 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20168: Update of the OPAC bootstrap template to bootstrap v4 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9cb89b46397efc5e288723829613c33e7eea0d69> 12:37 oleonard \o/ 13:18 Joubu amoyano: around? 13:19 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1423: UNSTABLE in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1423/ 13:24 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #380: STILL UNSTABLE in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/380/ 13:25 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U20 build #87: UNSTABLE in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U20/87/ 13:38 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #404: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 1 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/404/ 13:40 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20168: Fix selenium tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f99976028c51b21458b6aa5eff9fe33a0d1774c4> 13:40 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23816: DBRev 20.06.00.037 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f3c199ac140a29fa10c16cbba7507a1c2e34dc34> 13:40 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24663: Fix one missing occurrence <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=11da7051c2c967e7d9dd10f8511a4a452964341e> 13:40 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26388: Do not show 'Renew all' or 'Renew selected' if no renewable items <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=763cc4eb2e53f7a44a138d6162bfa4470a484bac> 13:40 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26007: (QA follow-up) Remove message on marc_subfields_structure <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c95bb26327d11ecf8bf86dcd3996a94b2716da7c> 13:40 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26007: (QA follow-up) Replace wrong link values from sql installer files <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a937895fdadc9a90c53d31975ca7082516e5cdb9> 13:40 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26007: (QA follow-up) Add index name to the q parameter <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=10d8f8ba93571f590fc424b927b94035dfa0b9d2> 13:40 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26007: Add/fix warning for changes to the Koha to MARC mappings <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=54941f8dc558911e4222f7325609839b7c6bae81> 13:40 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23816: (QA follow-up) Use existing form validation to validate min password length <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1a1402d06638811c5f893dc8c238b5b814bac625> 13:40 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23816: (follow-up) Fix many things <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=52deed335e08c3f8f52c834eead6ab462350cf54> 13:40 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26285: Follow E.164 pattern for OPAC too <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6ae7a6f421b6f313e466392722efdf67afe1b51b> 13:40 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26285: Follow E.164 pattern for validating SMS numbers <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b4d8180d822fc9b51250d4575ada99088e9a8506> 13:40 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23816: trivial code simplification <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e85b200783c1c56b19c515669a149e6b9920393c> 13:40 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23816: Set default value in tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=15d83d44812307f0d37abcf040a357ffab3f27e6> 13:40 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 16314: Show upload link for upload plugin in basic MARC editor 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<http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5f7142a89098535674366052812c1ea07f81dd8e> 13:54 cait1 ashimema[m]: please check bug 26403 again 13:54 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26403 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, BLOCKED , "Issue refund" is not fully translatable 13:54 cait1 i think if we don't fi the pull down is fine, but we need to fix the opac side of things 13:55 ashimema[m] my advice would be to jump on the AV translations one.. 13:55 cait1 no 13:55 ashimema[m] I don't believe there's any reasonable way to translate them otherwise 13:56 cait1 we do with all the other things in that table 13:56 ashimema[m] not with authorized values we don't ;) 13:56 cait1 i'll attach a screenshot 13:56 cait1 these are not authorised values 13:56 ashimema[m] If you can show me a way to achieve it 13:56 cait1 or at elast they are hardcoded ones 13:56 ashimema[m] Yes they are ;) 13:56 cait1 no they are not 13:56 cait1 i will show on the screenshot 13:56 ashimema[m] payment_type is an AV 13:57 ashimema[m] OK 13:57 cait1 check the screenshot, we are talking about different things 13:58 cait1 also, i put credit type because it was labelled as such, we need to check that too 13:58 cait1 if it's not a credit type - need to change the label 13:59 ashimema[m] it's labeled 'Transaction type' 13:59 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #887: STILL UNSTABLE in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/887/ 14:00 ashimema[m] right... 14:00 ashimema[m] walk me through your process.. 14:09 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #343: STILL UNSTABLE in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/343/ 14:10 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10_Deps build #67: UNSTABLE in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10_Deps/67/ 14:11 ashimema[m] OK.. the description of the bug in the test plan got me.. 14:12 ashimema[m] you talk about changing 'Transaction types' not being translatable.. those are taken from the payment types AV (which I think is a misnomer) 14:13 ashimema[m] I would report the descriptions not being translatable as an entirely different bug 14:13 ashimema[m] small and clear bugs cait ;) 14:13 ashimema[m] PS.. I've submitted patches for some of your other accounts related translation issues already. 14:26 cait ashimema[m]: we can split them, but i described both things as best as i could :) 14:27 cait you just got stuck on the first part ;) 14:27 cait i've been running out of time, but is aw the other patch and hope to test it soon 14:28 cait and if the transactiont ypes are an AV, I can make them German 14:28 cait that#s not a big issue 14:28 cait not perfect, but not worse than others 14:29 ashimema[m] it's a type 14:29 ashimema[m] Refund vs REFUND 14:29 ashimema[m] but.. the SQL constraint should have caught it.. 14:29 ashimema[m] grrr.. myself doesn't care about case! 14:31 cait there there? 14:31 cait sorry, I had like 4 meetings today, i am all confused 14:32 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26157: Correct two occurrences <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=de096ab20076b185e414dc6c0330f3370e171c49> 14:33 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11 build #80: UNSTABLE in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11/80/ 14:35 ashimema[m] There you are 14:36 ashimema[m] there's a queue of translations bugs fixed awaiting your SO (I reckon you could go for a straight QA on them once tested to be honest) 14:37 cait I am a bit short of time right now :( I will do what I can 14:37 ashimema[m] bug 26418, bug 26398, bug 22596 14:37 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26418 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , The "description" for REFUND accountlines is not translatable 14:37 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26398 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Credit and Debit types on creating a manual credits and manual invoices are not translatable 14:37 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22596 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, CLOSED FIXED, html TT filter is breaking items search with custom field 14:38 ashimema[m] bug 25596 even 14:38 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25596 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , "Overpayment refund" is not translatable 14:39 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U16 build #60: UNSTABLE in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U16/60/ 14:39 ashimema[m] I'm also still waiting on bug 24381 14:39 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24381 major, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , ACCOUNT_CREDIT and ACCOUNT_DEBIT slip not printing information about paid fines/fees 14:55 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #381: STILL UNSTABLE in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/381/ 14:59 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #405: STILL UNSTABLE in 50 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/405/ 15:19 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1424: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1424/ 15:27 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U20 build #88: STILL UNSTABLE in 53 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U20/88/ 15:41 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #888: STILL UNSTABLE in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/888/ 15:42 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #344: STILL UNSTABLE in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/344/ 15:44 oleonard ashimema[m] still around? 15:44 ashimema[m] ish 15:44 ashimema[m] fire away 15:45 oleonard Bug 26039 adds some text which is wrapped in <span class="hidden"> 15:45 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26039 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to master , Accessibility: Shelf browser is not announced upon loading 15:45 oleonard Is that supposed to be read by screen readers? 15:46 ashimema[m] I believe so 15:46 ashimema[m] ooh.. there's a typo in the text 15:46 ashimema[m] I believe my screen reader read it.. 15:46 oleonard Okay I think I need to update it for BS4 (it isn't hidden currently) 15:46 ashimema[m] but I'm not sure how consistently that works to be honest 15:47 ashimema[m] oh.. interesting 15:52 oleonard If you agree, I'm going to submit a patch that changes the "hidden" class to "sr-only," Bootstrap's class specifically for screen reader text. 15:53 oleonard (and I'll correct the typo) 15:53 ashimema[m] sounds perfect to me 15:53 ashimema[m] thanks 15:56 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10_Deps build #68: STILL UNSTABLE in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10_Deps/68/ 16:07 vfernandes it's possible to speed up the XSLT processing of one XML record with more than 2000 items? 16:12 vfernandes i'm aware of bug #23035 16:12 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23035 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Intranet search is slow if thousands of items are in the biblios shown in the search results 16:19 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11 build #81: STILL UNSTABLE in 52 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11/81/ 16:20 reiveune bye 16:25 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U16 build #61: STILL UNSTABLE in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U16/61/ 16:31 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #382: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/382/ 16:38 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #406: STILL UNSTABLE in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/406/ 17:12 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #345: STILL UNSTABLE in 52 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/345/ 17:17 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #383: STILL UNSTABLE in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/383/ 17:29 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #407: STILL UNSTABLE in 50 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/407/ 19:01 oleonard dev meeting in an hour? Joubu cat ashimema[m] tuxayo ? 19:02 tuxayo How do you known I'm here? :o 19:02 tuxayo Indeed there is a meeting! 19:03 oleonard tuxayo I noticed your name was on the agenda so I thought it would be worth pinging you :) 19:04 * oleonard will be back 19:05 tuxayo > your name was on the agenda 19:05 tuxayo oh 19:06 tuxayo Ok, it's homework I did in time this time :D 19:13 ashimema[m] I did bits of the homework 😉 19:14 ashimema[m] But I'm not likely to make the meeting this time.. family calls 20:05 tuxayo Anyone for the meeting? 20:05 tuxayo (I'm only half here, will try to follow) 20:05 davidnind Any volunteers to Chair the development meeting? Anyone around to attend the developer meeting? :) 20:06 davidnind hi tixayo 20:06 davidnind hi tuxayo even! 20:06 tuxayo o/ 20:08 davidnind I will start the meeting - if not enough attendees we can set the time for the next meeting... 20:09 davidnind #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 9 September 2020 20:09 huginn Meeting started Wed Sep 9 20:09:40 2020 UTC. The chair is davidnind. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:09 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 20:09 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_9_september_2020' 20:10 davidnind #info Agenda https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_9_September_2020 20:10 davidnind #topic Introductions 20:10 aleisha_ #info Aleisha Amohia, Catalyst IT, Wellington NZ 20:10 davidnind #info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand 20:10 henryb #info Henry Bolshaw, House of Lords Library, UK 20:11 tuxayo #info tuxayo/Victor Grousset, France 20:12 tuxayo Anyone else beside us 4 from these 2 opposites points of the globe? 20:13 davidnind Not too many around, so I think it will be a quicker meeting this time! 20:13 tuxayo ^^ 20:13 davidnind #topic Review of action points 20:14 davidnind for those not here to speak to their action points, I will just add the actions again, so they automatically appear on the next agenda 20:14 davidnind hi everyone! 20:14 davidnind #action ashimema is collecting notes about bug 15522 and is going to review and dig a bit more into the code (postponed) 20:14 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15522 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Patch doesn't apply , New interface for revamped circulation rules 20:14 davidnind tuxyao, your item is next 20:15 davidnind thanks for adding an update to the agenda 20:15 tuxayo tuxayo integrate the RMaint-handover-draft into the "release maintenance" wiki page (postponed) 20:15 tuxayo It's done 20:15 tuxayo is the place in the page ok? Release_maintenance#Handover_between_two_cycles 20:15 tuxayo * https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Release_maintenance#Handover_between_two_cycles 20:16 tuxayo I put it in the initial setup 20:16 oleonard #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA 20:16 tuxayo So new RMaint will read this as a last step 20:17 davidnind looks okay to me - can be built upon, maybe good to ask cait or ashimema when they around if they know of a better location 20:17 tuxayo ok, I'm noting that 20:17 davidnind #info tuxayo has added the RMaint-handover-draft into the "release maintenance" wiki page https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Release_maintenance#Handover_between_two_cycles 20:18 davidnind thanks tuxayo - good to get something down while it is still fresh from your experience starting as a release maintainer 20:18 tuxayo ^^ 20:20 davidnind my action point is still under action, will definitely get onto it by the next meeting! 20:20 davidnind #action davidnind Find and update relevant places to record Perl version required, including release notes, manual and wiki (one source of the truth) (postponed) 20:21 davidnind #info Joubu has opened a bug report for the QA script to catch input type number - see https://gitlab.com/koha-community/qa-test-tools/-/issues/38 (there is a merge request attached) 20:22 davidnind ashimema is not here today, so his item can be postponed as well 20:22 davidnind #action ashimema to write a guideline to forbidding the use of type "number" 20:23 davidnind oops, I see I jumped over all the other agenda items! 20:23 davidnind #topic Announcements 20:24 davidnind Has anyone got any announcements to make? 20:24 oleonard Joubu pushed Bug 20168 today! Yay! 20:24 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20168 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to master , Update of the OPAC bootstrap template to bootstrap v4 20:25 tuxayo :D 20:25 oleonard If anyone has issues rebasing patches on top of it I'd be happy to help 20:25 davidnind that's awesome! 20:25 tuxayo oleonard++ 20:25 davidnind oleonard++ 20:25 henryb oleonard++ 20:26 davidnind #info Update of the OPAC bootstrap template to bootstrap v4 now pushed, see bug 20168 20:27 tuxayo 🥳 20:27 davidnind #info let oleonard know if you have issues rebasing patches, is happy to help 20:29 davidnind #info koha-US's annual conference is on this month, and is online beginning on 22 September - see http://koha-us.org/learn/conferences/onlinetogether2020/ 20:31 aleisha_ #info kohacon20's working together will still be going ahead in some shape or form, so keep tagging bugs as #academy for us to work on :) 20:31 davidnind the third day is bug-a-palooza! day, so looks like a bit of bug squashing will be happening! 20:31 aleisha_ ( by 'working together' i mean the hackathon) 20:31 davidnind thanks aleisha_ 20:31 davidnind will be good practice as well for Kohacon2020 in October 20:32 aleisha_ yeah absolutely! 20:32 davidnind We have no release manager today, so will skip Joubu's update 20:33 davidnind #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers 20:33 davidnind We have release maintainers today, fire away with your updates! 20:34 aleisha_ #info 19.11.x is going well. if anyone wants things backported, please don't direct message me - just add me to the CC list of the bug and leave a note on the bug report for me so i can look into it 20:34 oleonard aleisha_++ 20:35 davidnind aleisha_++ 20:36 davidnind thanks aleisha_! 20:36 tuxayo #info 19.05.x nothing unusual to report, will try to focus on more severe bugs. Too much backporting on oldoldstable isn't much worth it and is bad for translations when it's string changes. 20:36 davidnind tuxayo++ 20:37 davidnind thanks tuxayo 20:37 aleisha_ yeah that's good tuxayo. maybe we need to add more info to the wiki on what the different branches should be looking to backport because oldoldstable isn't very much 20:37 aleisha_ just as a guide 20:37 aleisha_ tuxayo++ 20:38 tuxayo aleisha_: I documented my policy and stuff I was told: 20:38 tuxayo https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/User:Victor_Grousset_-_tuxayo/Release_maintenance_tips 20:38 aleisha_ that looks good, i think that kind of stuff is useful as a guide for everyone :) i have my own notes somewhere too 20:40 davidnind agree, that looks really good, and should be added as a starter at least to the release maintainers role page - I'm happy to do that 20:41 davidnind #action davidnind to add information about what to backport to the release maintainers role page (as a starting point for further notes and guidance) 20:42 davidnind unless yo would like to tuxayo? 20:42 tuxayo At least having RMaints who have notes to put them in the wiki and link them from somewhere. If there are resources for discussions and coordination, common guidelines would be even better. 20:42 aleisha_ thanks davidnind that would be awesome if you could do a starting point and maybe we add to it :) 20:43 davidnind something easy I can do to help out 20:43 davidnind #topic Updates from the QA team 20:43 tuxayo So some basic stuff and then link to individual notes with more detailed/different POVs? 20:44 davidnind that is as good a starting point as any 20:44 davidnind I'm not sure anyone from the QA Team is around.... 20:44 tuxayo qa team? 20:44 wahanui qa team are the real gatekeepers, send cookies their way 20:44 tuxayo qateam? 20:45 davidnind hehe, chocolate as well :) 20:45 tuxayo #action tuxayo to collect notes (if any) from past&present RMaints about their backport policies. 20:46 henryb qa_team? 20:46 wahanui i think qa_team is cait Joubu marcelr kohaputti josef_moravec tcohen kidclamp khall ashimema alex_a jajm matts 20:47 tuxayo thanks henryb 20:47 davidnind #info Send the QA Team cookies and chocolate for the great job they do (and oleonard for all the UI things)! 20:47 davidnind thanks henryb! 20:47 kidclamp #info Nick Clemens 20:47 wahanui #info Nick Clemens is working on testing the circulations rules rewrite 20:47 tuxayo it worked! 20:47 kidclamp On my phone, not entirely about 20:48 tuxayo kidclamp got lured by the cookie 20:48 davidnind maybe kidclamp will need something stronger than virtual cookies or chocolate... 20:48 tuxayo Why is wahanui using #info ? 20:49 tuxayo wahanui forget #info Nick Clemens 20:49 wahanui tuxayo: I forgot #info nick clemens 20:49 kidclamp Our queue is small, but big works to test still, things progress 20:49 davidnind thanks kidclamp 20:49 kidclamp Sign off all the things ,:-) 20:50 davidnind there was a call at last week's general IRC meeting for help getting the sign off queue down (now around 260....) 20:50 henryb What is a good number for the sign off queue? 20:51 davidnind #info Please help with sign offs (now around 260), so the QA Team can have some things to do :-D 20:51 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City 20:51 kidclamp As low as possible ideally 20:52 tuxayo henryb: The fact that the QA queue is low means that the needs signoff one need to especially given time. 20:52 aleisha_ if we move recalls along then it can get out of the sign off queue :) thanks to oleonard and others for testing bug 19532 20:52 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19532 new feature, P1 - high, ---, aleisha, Needs Signoff , Recalls for Koha 20:52 davidnind I think cait said it was unusually low, mainly because there are so many bugs waiting for sign-off... (and because the QA Team is doing such a great job!) 20:52 tuxayo If QA is overwhelmed I guess it's more about priorities of bugs/features than overall numbers 20:53 oleonard I'm trying to keep up with it aleisha_ ! Thanks for all the rebasing. 20:53 aleisha_ i appreciate it oleonard ! 20:54 ashimema[m] The dashboard colours the queues ;) 20:54 ashimema[m] Hello 20:54 wahanui que tal, ashimema[m] 20:54 * ashimema[m] pops in 20:54 davidnind #info Help with sign-off for Recalls in Koha would be appreciated (bug# 19532) 20:54 davidnind hi ashimema! 20:54 davidnind #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) 20:55 davidnind I added an item about Zebra support, from the discussion that was on the mailing list 20:56 davidnind will postpone to the next meeting I think, if still relevant 20:57 davidnind Any other general development discussions anyone wishes to raise? 20:57 ashimema[m] Long live zebra 20:58 davidnind Zebra for Queen or King 20:59 davidnind #topic Set time of next meeting 21:00 davidnind Would normally be 14:00 a fortnight from now, 23 September 2020, 14:00 UTC 21:01 davidnind Will be somewhere around the bug-a-palooza! day with the koha-US conference 21:02 davidnind will follow the same pattern, and if it needs to be changed it can be changed 21:02 tuxayo looks good 21:03 oleonard +1 21:03 davidnind #info Next meeting: 23 September 2020, 14:00 UTC 21:03 davidnind #endmeeting 21:03 huginn Meeting ended Wed Sep 9 21:03:29 2020 UTC. 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(v 0.1.4) 21:03 huginn Minutes: https://meetings.koha-community.org/2020/development_irc_meeting_9_september_2020.2020-09-09-20.09.html 21:03 huginn Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-community.org/2020/development_irc_meeting_9_september_2020.2020-09-09-20.09.txt 21:03 huginn Log: https://meetings.koha-community.org/2020/development_irc_meeting_9_september_2020.2020-09-09-20.09.log.html 21:03 oleonard davidnind++ 21:04 davidnind thanks everyone! 21:04 aleisha_ thanks davidnind 21:05 tuxayo davidnind++ 21:05 henryb thanks davidnind! 21:06 tuxayo So, let's start the first step of the homework early. 21:06 tuxayo aleisha_ , do you happen to have notes about your backporting policy? ^^ 21:12 davidnind I will leave you to it, off to my day job... 23:22 tuxayo hayleyaround? 23:24 hayley hola tuxayo 23:26 tuxayo hayley do you happen to have some notes about your backporting policy when you were RMaint? 23:27 hayley I don't have any notes sorry tuxayo, I just followed chris' advice. My policy was to only backport bug fixes, and sometimes minor enhancements if they didn't have any database changes 23:27 tuxayo @later tell aleisha Rereading the meeting, you wrote «the different branches should be looking to backport because oldoldstable isn't very much» what did you mean? 23:27 huginn tuxayo: The operation succeeded. 23:29 tuxayo hayley: Now you have written notes, now I'm stealing them :P 23:29 tuxayo BTW, for which branch? Because that very dependent on that. 23:29 hayley heh not a problem! 23:29 hayley I was on oldoldstable 23:30 hayley aleisha is away sick today so you might not get a response until tomorrow 23:31 tuxayo No worries it could be many days or even be dropped. Hope they get better. 23:34 tuxayo hayley: «only backport bug fixes» did you by default tried to backport every bugfix regardless of the severity? 23:35 hayley yep tuxayo, if it was very minor I would sometimes skip 23:45 tuxayo hayley: thanks for your time. I was able to complete my notes about backporting: 23:45 tuxayo https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/User:Victor_Grousset_-_tuxayo/Release_maintenance_tips#Hayley_for_oldoldstable 23:50 hayley heh nice!