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06:31 reiveune      hello
06:38 magnuse       bonjour
07:07 alex_a        Bonjour
07:20 cait1         good morning #koha!
07:28 magnuse       kia ora cait1
07:34 ashimema[m]   Mornin' #koha
07:34 ashimema[m]   wow.. lots happened last week whilst I was away... anything anyone wants to bring to me attention.. save me reading through the logs
07:39 magnuse       we rewrote everything in... lisp
07:48 Joubu         ashimema[m]: welcome back :) Security releases have been rolled out yesterday, and some activities on bug 22417 and bug 20271 made them move a bit closer to the finish line. Nothing special apart from that :)
07:48 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22417 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , Add a task queue
07:48 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20271 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , Merge deleted biblio, biblioitems, biblio_metadata, and items tables
07:49 ashimema[m]   Thanks Joubu.. that's a helpful summary :)
07:49 ashimema[m]   lots of catching up to do today at work, then it'll be community catchup next :)
07:49 * ashimema[m] is feeling refreshed
08:57 cait1         welcome back ashimema[m] :)
08:57 cait1         ashimema[m]: and everything remaining in QA queue is for grabs :)
08:59 ashimema[m]   random question
08:59 ashimema[m]   opac payments..
08:59 ashimema[m]   should we really set the manager_id == borrowernumber
08:59 ashimema[m]   feels a bit odd
08:59 * ashimema[m] doesn't like Koha::Account::pay and should really get around to killing it with fire soon
09:12 * Joubu       offers a box of matches to ashimema[m]
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10:24 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 19889: Add new attribute to the REST API definition <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=76bd9322962ca42e612bf7a7015a3cd0f28922c2>
10:24 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 25504: Fix failing tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9be6b76a7bd702177bc0e1c32fd321e58f39efae>
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10:48 Null404       hello there
10:48 wahanui       Greetings, programs!
10:49 Null404       In KOHA there is a raport " Items with no checkouts" - but it gives only 1000 books per library on list - there is any way to get full list ?
10:51 cait          you could check the reports library for an alternative report
10:51 cait          reports library?
10:51 cait          hm i was hoping for help from the bot, sec
10:51 cait          https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library
10:52 oleonard      Hi all
10:52 Null404       Yes cait - I'm looked there first
10:52 Null404       and I don't found that sql report
10:54 cait          I cannot help write one from scratch right now, but i am sure libraries around have somethin like this
10:54 cait          maybe try asking on the mailing list
10:54 Null404       okay I found a half-solution: "tems with no Circs in a specific timeframe"
10:54 cait          oleonard++ thx for documenting how to do the title-string sort
10:57 oleonard      Joubu: I think Bug 25242 should be reverted. Too many unwanted side-effects.
10:57 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25242 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to master , Accessibility: The 'Holdings' table partially obscures navigation links at 200% zoom
10:58 cait          I am sorry ashimema[m], but i feel the same, it needs a different approach
10:58 oleonard      (side-effects which I should have seen during testing but overlooked)
10:58 cait          oleonard: is he text running into other columns one?
10:59 cait          i noticed on squashing the courses table
10:59 oleonard      Yes
11:00 cait          it doesn't appear to happen with all tables
11:05 koha-jenkins  Yippee, build fixed!
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11:11 Joubu         ok oleonard
11:11 wahanui       oleonard is, like, seeing some buggy stuff though
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11:21 ashimema[m]   OK.. I'll target the table directly then..
11:21 ashimema[m]   unless someone beats me to it.
11:22 ashimema[m]   still in catch up mode after the break
11:42 koha-jenkins  Yippee, build fixed!
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12:02 cait1         magnuse:: demo list on website updated - you are 20.05 now
12:04 tcohen        morning
12:05 oleonard      Hi tcohen
12:08 magnuse       cait++
12:08 magnuse       cait1: yes, as of 4 hours ago :-)
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12:33 tcohen        kohaputti Joubu something you want to talk about that API bug?
12:33 kohaputti     tcohen, no I'm done with the review, or... I ran the tests once and they succeeded but now I run again and it fails...
12:34 kohaputti     I was about to send the SO'd patches but this happened :/
12:34 tcohen        it's fine, paste the failure somewhere
12:35 kohaputti     i have just debugged it for couple minutes so let me see if I can manage on my own
12:35 kohaputti     and since it worked already once
12:42 Ivan_         Hello. I found a bug and fixed it. Tell me how to add it to Bugzila? Thank.
12:42 Ivan_         I saw this command -> git bz attach xxxxx HEAD . But I don't undestand number XXXXX.
12:43 oleonard      Ivan_ : Go to https://bugs.koha-community.org and register for an account
12:43 oleonard      Then create a new bug which describes the problem
12:43 koha-jenkins  Yippee, build fixed!
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13:25 cait1         magnuse: i always check the list beginning of the month - happy coincidence :)
13:25 cait1         ... lucky
13:39 cait2         kidclamp: thx for the analytics link fix, it hought it was something about the syntax as the searched worked individually
13:40 cait2         and for the a_t one too :) - i thin some others might also be wrong, will try to check
13:49 fridolin      Bug 26338 small but cool enhancement for plugins
13:49 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26338 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Show tool plugins run in tools home
13:49 * fridolin    loves plugins
13:55 Ivan_         oleonard: Thanks
14:05 huginn        News from kohagit: Revert "Bug 25242: Improve column wrapping and overflow for tables" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4009bb04ad857ef042bba9a4d690dd21d84ac3dd>
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15:04 reiveune      bye
15:14 did           sophie_m: bon la nuit etc. etc.. a demain
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15:28 caroline      Hi all! I need to view an opac with elasticsearch. Anyone has one that they can share? (can be a sandbox, i don't really care)
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15:57 * oleonard    grumble grumble basketgroups grumble
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16:48 ashimema[m]   bug 25242 back to NSO
16:48 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25242 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Accessibility: The 'Holdings' table partially obscures navigation links at 200% zoom
16:49 ashimema[m]   any other Chrome users here on Ubuntu found that chromes performance has degraded to the point of being unusable with the most recent update?
16:51 ashimema[m]   I'm on 85.0.4183.83 as of this morning after it nagged me to upgrade (but required a full re-install to actually upgrade).. and now it's pretty much unusable.. very slow to switch tabs, very slow to load pages.. scrolling is laggy
16:51 ashimema[m]   etc
16:51 * ashimema[m] has tried in incognito to kick out extensions but it's just as unusable there too
17:01 oleonard      For what it's worth ashimema[m] I have the same version on Mac and haven't seen problems.
17:01 ashimema[m]   ta
18:04 oleonard      We need to re-think having some JS in intranet-tmpl/js and some in intranet-tmpl/prog/js...
18:05 oleonard      I would think anything in intranet-tmpl/js should not have any language strings in it, but this isn't the case.
18:07 cait          hm
18:08 cait          are they both parsed? i mean would it work?
18:08 oleonard      The translation script doesn't process files in intranet-tmpl/js because it's outside the lang directory
18:09 cait          the paths you gave are both
18:09 cait          that's what confused me
18:09 oleonard      Oh I'm the one who is confused
18:09 cait          and i am not sure it's necessary that they be inside any longer
18:09 cait          because I think that translation is on the fly
18:10 oleonard      So the distinction is arbitrary...
18:10 cait          at lest if my information is correct
18:17 ashimema[m]   it depends on how they're translated.. if it at template level.. i.e compiled prior to runtime then it needs to be within /en I believe
18:17 oleonard      So the question is why the translation script doesn't process JS in intranet-tmpl/js.
18:18 ashimema[m]   but it's at runtime then it doesn't.
18:18 ashimema[m]   I presume it doesn't need to
18:18 ashimema[m]   are there template level ones in there?
18:18 ashimema[m]   I would suggest only runtime ones should be in there
18:19 oleonard      I don't understand the distinction
18:19 ashimema[m]   having said that.. I think jajm wanted to convert all of them to runtime (to make things simpler) and he did some performance testing to prove it didn't have a huge impact
18:22 cait          i thought the js files were already, only talking about those right now
18:22 cait          we have 2 files that are using .mo i think
18:22 cait          messages and messages-js?
18:23 cait          and hte .mo ones are -  I think - runtime
18:23 ashimema[m]   I think that's right cait.
18:23 ashimema[m]   .mo is runtime
18:23 cait          we schould have asked a few hours earlier
18:23 cait          too late for jajm i think
18:24 cait          so as we can do js on runtime... we could move them out of the language specific directories probably?
18:24 ashimema[m]   if I'm honest.. I never fully understood how they worked prior to the runtime model ;)
18:24 cait          they could not include any strings for translation
18:24 cait          so basically... they did not? :)
18:25 ashimema[m]   I thought we had variables or something..
18:27 ashimema[m]   it's even more confusing as we also now have a mix of runtime and compile time in normal .tt too
18:30 ashimema[m]   right
18:30 ashimema[m]   so.. the 'old way' for JS
18:30 ashimema[m]   you added a variable in the .tt side
18:31 cait          yes
18:31 ashimema[m]   so en/modules/opac-user.tt contains 'var MSG_YOUR_RATING = _("Your rating: %s, ");"
18:31 ashimema[m]   that's translated at translation compile time right?
18:31 cait          oleonard:  is changing all tohse
18:31 cait          oleonard++
18:32 ashimema[m]   so when you run `translate install fr-FR` or whatever it is..
18:32 cait          i think we need to discuss tomorrow how we can encourage more sign-offs... to finish this and other projects
18:33 ashimema[m]   we spit out a new /fr-FR/modules/opac-user.tt that contains `var MSG_YOUR_RATING = _("Votre note, %s, ");`
18:33 cait          yes, but the js is unchanged
18:33 ashimema[m]   i.e it's 'pre-translated' in the template and nothing is changed in the JS at all.. we just 'refer' to the variable that's been translated in the template
18:34 ashimema[m]   where as.. the .mo stuff works at run-time
18:34 * cait        feels like we might have scared oleonard away
18:34 ashimema[m]   so..
18:40 ashimema[m]   hmm
18:41 ashimema[m]   the bit I don't entirely follow is how the .mo is created and when
18:42 ashimema[m]   aha..
18:42 ashimema[m]   so that's also done by translate install..
18:43 ashimema[m]   only I think it creates a single .mo file which is loaded alongside page load and then the js library grabs the data from there at runtime
18:43 ashimema[m]   so actually.. they're not that different
18:46 ashimema[m]   ps.. I'd appreciate it if someone would take a look at the updated version of bug 25242
18:46 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25242 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Accessibility: The 'Holdings' table partially obscures navigation links at 200% zoom
18:46 * ashimema[m] goes shopping.
18:53 oleonard      Sorry, tech support for my kids doing online school has me bouncing around
19:08 tuxayo        @later tell lukeG1 Can you forward me the email that Jonathan sent today About the state of the branches?
19:08 huginn        tuxayo: The operation succeeded.
19:08 tuxayo        @later tell lukeG1 Somehow while moving it to the right email directory, I made it complete disappear, not even in the trash :(
19:08 huginn        tuxayo: The operation succeeded.
19:13 cait          oleonard: ah you had me owrried :)
19:16 cait          kidclamp: around?
19:21 kidclamp      In low orbit
19:21 oleonard      Fast and hot
19:21 kidclamp      Yes, just finished a run. Well, hot at least, not so fast
19:27 cait          kidclamp: what did you want me to run for elasticsearch on my devbox?
19:31 kidclamp      Umm, to check the version?
19:31 kidclamp      Curl localhost:9200
19:33 kidclamp      I have intermittently recreated your error, but haven't figured out what triggers it yet
19:37 cait          kidclamp: how do we use NOT with elastic?
19:39 jajm          ashimema[m], cait, oleonard, i'm here but not for long, how can i help about the translations ?
19:39 cait          the js strings are done on runtime, right?
19:39 oleonard      jajm do you know if there is a reason why we don't process JS in intranet-tmpl/js ?
19:39 cait          ah, yep that :)
19:40 cait          kidclamp: http://paste.koha-community.org/25332
19:40 jajm          oleonard, i think i didn't take that path into account because there wasn't any translatable string in it ? (not sure...)
19:41 jajm          cait, js strings wrapped inside __*() are translated at runtime yes
19:41 oleonard      jajm I'm not sure whether we want to change that or whether we should move the js out of that directory which contains translatable strings.
19:41 jajm          translations are stored inside a JS file generated at './translate instal' time from messages-js.po
19:44 jajm          oleonard, i think there is no need to move the strings out of the directory, we just need to add this path to the list of paths to check for JS strings
19:48 cait          JS file != .mo?
19:51 cait          kidclamp: can you see why this would work with zebra but not elastic? rcn:11388674 AND (bib-level:a OR bib-level:b)'
19:51 jajm          cait, the .mo file is a compiled version of xx-XX-messages.po, which contain only the strings for Perl files and TT files. JS strings are stored in messages-js.po and it get "compiled" into a JS file so the browser can fetch it and use it
19:51 cait          ah so a different mechanism still relying on a copied file
19:51 jajm          yes
19:53 cait          thx for clearing that up
19:53 cait          kidclamp: nm - index was nt up to date
20:01 kidclamp      Cool, not around now ;-)
21:48 tuxayo        aleisha around?
21:48 aleisha       yes hey tuxayo
21:49 tuxayo        o/
21:49 tuxayo        By any change, do you happen to have the email that Jonathan sent to the RMaints in the last 15 hours?
21:49 tuxayo        Somehow while moving it to the right email directory, I made it complete disappear, not even in the trash :(
21:50 aleisha       yup! will forward to you :)
21:50 tuxayo        thaaaaanks :D
21:50 aleisha       you're welcome
22:26 tuxayo        aleisha: maybe there is something with that particular email, still no sign of it :o
22:26 tuxayo        Not in spam though.
22:26 aleisha       oh i forwarded it to you straight away
22:26 aleisha       maybe it's being filtered somewhere?
22:30 tuxayo        aleisha: nothing in my email server logs mentionning catalyst.net.nz since many hours. (and a ping that I just sent to you)
22:30 aleisha       i did receive your ping
22:31 tuxayo        good, can you reply? let's see if that passes.
22:31 aleisha       done
22:36 tuxayo        aleisha: so, I got the ping back. And one minute later I got the forward!
22:37 tuxayo        Odd. I hope that will never cause major issues.
22:37 aleisha       hopefully thats solved it! weird tho'
22:38 tuxayo        aleisha++ Thanks for your time
22:39 aleisha       no worries at all :)
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