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09:48 ashimema     mornin' #koha friends
10:27 * cait1      waves
10:41 cait1        khall_: I was wondering ifcould interest you in QA'ing a guaranteses bug
10:41 cait1        um and hi :)
10:42 cait1        noooo... don't run away
10:42 cait1        *sad*
11:07 enkidu       Hi all, does anyone know how to install old version using koha-common. I want to install 19.05.01 version for example
11:08 cait1        hm like old packages?
11:11 enkidu       Yes, in some cases, we need to install a test server, with old version
11:14 mtj          hey #koha
11:15 mtj          enkidu: we actually dont save older koha .deb packages, so you might have to build a new package from source :/
11:16 cait1        thx mtj
11:16 cait1        mtj++ :)
11:17 mtj          ..or you could use koha-testing-docker to test out an older version of 19.05.x
11:18 mtj          hi cait1 :0)
11:21 mtj          enkidu: https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker
11:22 enkidu       it should be almost same. so testing docker is not a solution in my case. I'm trying something else. If I succeed I can put it on wiki.
11:42 oleonard     Hi #koha
11:43 enkidu       Hi oleonard !
12:18 tcohen       morning
12:19 tcohen       enkidu use this to build your own packages
12:19 tcohen       https://hub.docker.com/r/koha/koha-dpkg/
12:23 mtj          tcohen++ very nice ^
12:23 mtj          enkidu: i built a 19.05.01 package here, if you like... -> http://apt.kohaaloha.com/koha-staging/deb/19.05.01~git+20200714233748.60ff677e/
12:27 mtj          hi tcohen: the 'apt.kohaaloha.com/koha-nightly' line can be removed now from koha-dpkg instructions
12:27 tcohen       or changed
12:32 mtj          yes, that too :)
12:46 * ashimema   head hurts again
12:48 cait1        same
12:49 * ashimema   is dumping dbic trace to console and can see his test rows getting created.. then the query to find them failing to find them.. but can't see why :(
12:49 ashimema     oooh
12:50 ashimema     when did `!=` exclude NULL ?
12:50 enkidu       thanks mtj!
12:51 cait1        in sql i think alays
12:51 ashimema     lol
12:51 cait1        not sure about dbic?
12:51 ashimema     my bad
12:52 enkidu       and thanks tcohen !
12:54 ashimema     how do I forget such simple things
12:54 cait1        stress?
12:54 ashimema     perhaps
12:54 cait1        or getting older *ducks and runs*
12:55 cait1        but i am in the same boat about forgetting simple things, so ... :)
12:55 cait1        hi caroline :)
12:55 caroline     good morning!
12:57 * ashimema   is now wondering where else he's made that mistake
12:58 ashimema     remarkably.. it's seems I haven'T
12:58 ashimema     WIN
12:58 ashimema     :)
13:04 tcohen       ashimema take a break
13:04 tcohen       haha
13:04 ashimema     hehe
14:18 enkidu       Is it usual to give permission to staff to allow discharge request even if patron have some fines and books ?
14:33 oleonard     enkidu sounds like a library policy question rather than a technical one
14:41 enkidu       our customers donot want this feature, I wonder whether other libraries do use this.
14:44 tcohen       you mean that the default is that Koha allows overriding those situations and you would like it to be configurable?
14:44 tcohen       I would agree
14:44 oleonard     enkidu can you explain the circumstances under which this might occur?
14:45 oleonard     I don't see an option for staff to override. I only see the message "Cannot edit discharge: the patron has checked out items." in the staff interface.
14:49 enkidu       There is a Allow button in our case
14:50 enkidu       Patron has some fines and checkout items but staff can allow to discharge
14:56 oleonard     enkidu: What version of Koha is it?
14:56 enkidu       19.05.01
14:56 enkidu       I were not able to find a bug related with this.
14:56 caroline     I just tried it in my 19.05.04 and I can indeed issue a discharge even if a user has fines
14:56 caroline     but not if a user has checkouts
14:58 caroline     I think it only checks for checkouts? b/c the message says "... certifies that Mr. X has returned all items"
15:04 caroline     I admit I don't know of any library that uses this feature, so I'm not entirely sure how it's supposed to work, but I would assume a patron file has to be squeaky clean (no checkouts, no outstanding fines) in order to issue a discharge
15:05 ashimema     hmm
15:06 ashimema     is it just me or is there an atomicupdate file left over in master at the moment?
15:09 oleonard     Yup
15:14 enkidu       caroline: It only checks checkouts , not the fine, I've tested in 20.05. now. It should also check fines in my opinion
15:15 caroline     enkidu: I encourage you to create a bug report on bugzilla
15:16 enkidu       yes, let me do it
15:19 enkidu       we've  Bug 25986 for that now!
15:19 caroline     enkidu++
18:52 oleonard     Always cool to think of the big part of your patch you forgot just after you submit it.
18:52 tcohen       hahaha
18:55 oleonard     Anyway... trying again with Bug 22399
18:55 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22399 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Improve responsive behavior of the basic marc editor
19:27 ashimema     I do that literally all the time oleonard
20:33 * oleonard   goes back in time to convince Leonardo Da Vinci to create a patch-testing automaton
20:35 * oleonard   goes forward in time to convince Elon Musk that making a patch-testing robot will be more impressive to pop stars than shooting a car into space
20:46 caroline     Is the option to create a label batch still available under Tools > Manage staged MARC records https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-manual/-/blob/master/source/images/tools/labelcreator/labelfromstaged.png
20:46 caroline     I don't have it in my Koha and I'm wondering if it's something I have to turn on
20:47 caroline     ah, I have 0 items... duh
20:52 cait         yep
20:52 cait         imade it only show up when there are items
20:52 cait         because it would explode otherwise
21:08 caroline     When you go into Tools > Label creator > New > Label batch, are the radio buttons misaligned or is it just me? https://snipboard.io/vFwaNz.jpg
21:08 cait         looks misaligned
21:08 oleonard     me too
21:09 * oleonard   was looking for something to do
21:09 caroline     lol!
21:09 caroline     I'll add it and let you know the bug no
21:10 * oleonard   suspects Bug 15766
21:10 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15766 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, CLOSED FIXED, Give label and patron card batches a description
21:13 caroline     bug 25987
21:13 huginn       Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25987 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Radio buttons are misaligned in New label batches
21:13 caroline     Wasn't sure what else to put in the description...
21:35 oleonard     caroline: One option would have been a moody poem about how the bug made you feel.
21:36 caroline     Unfortunately, I don't have Fred's talent for poetry
21:37 oleonard     heh
21:38 oleonard     Well that patch chased away the existential dread for a few minutes. What now...
21:41 aleisha      i rebased recalls!
21:41 aleisha      probably too late to get into this release sadly :(
21:46 oleonard     For 20.11?
21:53 aleisha      yeah
22:02 caroline     20.11 is still a ways away
22:02 aleisha      oops true im getting myself all mixed up
22:05 caroline     do not lose hope!
22:12 aleisha      hehe #GetRecallsIntoMaster
22:13 hayley       omg let's get it trending
22:13 hayley       #aleisha2020
22:14 aleisha      haha oh NO
23:10 aleisha      ive set strict_sql_modes to 1 in etc/koha-conf.xml, is there anything else i need to do to enable this?