Time Nick Message 01:25 mtj @later tell tcohen: the nightly packages are now signed, perhaps we can remove the 'deb [trusted=yes]' from the apt line in ktd and kdb 01:25 huginn mtj: The operation succeeded. 02:40 aleisha_ hey team can someone please help me with some encoding problems? 02:44 aleisha_ my MARC record has M\x{101}ori instead of MÄori 03:30 mtj hi aleisha_, have a look here.. https://perldoc.perl.org/utf8.html 03:30 aleisha_ thanks mtj but i figured it out! 03:30 mtj my $str ="M\x{101}ori"; 03:30 mtj utf8::encode($str); 03:30 mtj print $str; 03:31 mtj ah cool :) 06:17 reiveune hello 06:31 dcook aleisha_: That's interesting. Just bad data? 06:31 * dcook waves at reiveune 06:49 dcook hey lmstrand 06:49 dcook I added a bunch more comments on your Bugzilla heh 06:50 dcook Partially inspired by jajm / jajm_ 06:50 ashimema mornin' 06:50 lmstrand yea I'm just reading it. 06:50 dcook heya ashimema 06:50 wahanui it has been said that ashimema is literally just writing up the release anouncement ;) 06:50 lmstrand mornin' 06:51 ashimema 3 minutes of geek: https://youtu.be/VIlBO96g4Zk 06:51 dcook Oh man I haven't watched one of these in ages 06:51 dcook Is "Gource" a typo? or is it GeekSource? 06:52 ashimema Not sure what tempted me.. I found the 10 year one and decided to run one for now. 06:52 ashimema I aim to polish it a bit.. music and parsing our history file 06:52 ashimema and the labels need some tweaking 06:53 ashimema never heard of GeekSource 06:53 dcook I was looking for myself in there but then got hypontized heh 06:53 ashimema the app used to create it is call Gource 06:53 dcook Oh I was just joking 06:53 dcook Ahhh cool 06:53 ashimema lol 06:53 * dcook isn't funny 06:53 dcook Sometimes I'll say I'm funny and my kid will say "no you're not dad" 06:54 dcook I can't tell if that's a compliment or an insult yet 06:54 dcook Like maybe "funny" was interpreted as weird rather than amusing.. 06:54 dcook >_> 06:54 ashimema lol 06:54 ashimema know that feeling 06:58 dcook Well end of Friday work day for me. Good luck everyone :D 06:58 ashimema have a good weekend :) 06:58 alex_a Bonjour 09:14 alex_a Joubu, around ? 09:31 ashimema He's not around allot at the minute.. travelling 09:34 alex_a ashimema, can you tell me what is the goal of the commit "Add new method Acq::Invoice::Adjustement->fund" on bug 24157 you signed off ? 09:34 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24157 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Additional acquisitions permissions 09:35 alex_a This new method is not used right ? 09:37 ashimema one tick.. let me remind myself ;) 09:38 ashimema ah.. I just added someones SO line when it didn't work via the ptfs-e sandboxes for some reason 09:38 ashimema Galway contacted me to SO for them 09:39 ashimema just taking a look at the patches 09:40 ashimema hmm. you're right though.. does look odd to include it in this patchset 09:41 ashimema Joubu was doing lots of inter-related bugs.. I bet it crept into this set from another one. 09:43 ashimema looks like a useful method for the future.. but yeah.. no need for it here. 09:48 alex_a Merci ashimema :) 10:15 cait1 hm can someone explain the use case of voiding paymentsß 10:15 cait1 ? 10:16 cait1 it looks like the payment is gone, but the "amount outstanding" remains the same, so it just seems to affect the payment, not the lines paid with it? 10:17 cait1 ok, i see the issue 10:17 cait1 the issue is old payments that are not linked to the accountlines 10:22 * ashimema struggles a bit with the concept of 'void' payments.. 10:22 ashimema it's basically an 'reverse what I just did' action I believe.. that uses offsets to do it.. 10:22 cait1 yeah but in old transactions there are no offsets 10:23 ashimema indeed 10:23 cait1 and we still show the link to void 10:23 davidnind In accounting terms, it's a bit like saying this was entered in error and should be removed, but you want a record that it happened 10:23 cait1 so when it ested with those, ti was confusing 10:23 cait1 a little dangerous too 10:23 ashimema well.. we try to build them wherever we can in more recent releases.. 10:23 ashimema that's part of the work I did.. some scary DB updates 10:23 cait1 i know, but most our libraries predate the reawakening of offsets :) 10:23 cait1 so somepretty old test data on my accounts too 10:23 ashimema there's also a patch in my queue to test.. 'cancel' charges 10:24 cait1 yeah 10:24 cait1 wondering about the difference 10:24 cait1 we should make it clear for docs too 10:24 ashimema which I believe sort of does the same thing but with charges instead of patyments.. 10:24 ashimema only the logic doesn't match entirely 10:24 ashimema I was intending to update 'void' to allow for both at some point.. but it appears someone beat me to adding that cancel method 10:27 ashimema hmm 10:27 ashimema prove t/db_dependent/Koha/Account.t passes for me on master cait? 10:27 ashimema it's a little messy.. but it does pass 10:28 cait1 where did i say it does not? 10:28 cait1 too many bugs 10:28 ashimema bug 19036 10:28 wahanui bug 19036 is a nice one which I can't QA however ;) 10:28 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19036 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, BLOCKED , Number payment receipts / payment slips 10:31 ashimema in fact.. 10:31 ashimema it passes on the bug for me too 10:31 ashimema are you sure you ran the db update first ;) 10:36 cait1 it failed on master - maybe it got fixed? 10:37 ashimema perhaps.. can't say I've seen it fail to be honest 10:37 cait1 i can try again, can you change status to push it back int he queue please? 10:37 ashimema done 10:37 cait1 thx! 10:37 ashimema :) 10:47 ashimema hmm 10:47 ashimema I'm really wondering about the logic of VOID and CANCEL now 10:48 ashimema In the majority of cases now we finally have consistent double entry accounting.. 10:51 ashimema jajm around? 10:57 jajm ashimema, yes 10:57 ashimema Just commenting on bug 24603 10:57 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24603 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Allow to cancel charges in patron accounting 10:58 ashimema I feel like it introduces a new inconsistency in our accounting system.. I'm not against the feature but might adopt it and implement it with detailed recording (double-entry accounting style) 10:58 ashimema did you have a customer after it.. is there some specific requirements I should be aware of.. 10:58 ashimema hope I'm not treading on toes 11:01 jajm ashimema, it was a client request yes, and i did not ask myself many questions on the implementation, just followed what existed for the 'void payment' feature 11:01 ashimema commented 11:01 jajm i'd be happy to change the implementation if needed, but i don't understand what would need to be changed 11:01 ashimema did they specifically only want to allow cancellation of charges prior to their payment/partial payment? 11:01 ashimema I'm happy to do the work.. still have my head in the game with accounts 11:02 ashimema just want to make sure I'm not breaking a specific requirement 11:02 ashimema I'll add some patches to the bug... then you'll be able to see what I mean 11:05 jajm client request was not very specific, it was something like 'same as void payment, but for charges' 11:10 ashimema brill 11:11 ashimema leave it with me.. :) 11:13 ashimema the more I think about it the more like it just feels like a special case of 'Issue refund' 11:23 oleonard o/ 11:27 TimothyAlexis Hey, I'm looking at cleanup_database.pl and tried running it manually with --fees 1 11:28 TimothyAlexis I have also tried to see if there is any bug report about it. 11:29 ashimema mornin' oleonard 11:29 TimothyAlexis Is there something I need to think about when running this? 11:29 ashimema any thoughts on the rapidly expanding list of 'Actions' on the transactions table under accounts from a UX perspective? 11:30 oleonard ashimema: Currently we're breaking with established patterns by having as many as three buttons. Usually we'd put those into a menu. 11:31 ashimema indeed.. that's what I was thinking 11:31 ashimema just another bug for me to add to the pile.. lol 11:31 ashimema I don't like that view much already 11:33 TimothyAlexis ashimema, tuxayo: I talked to my colleagues about accessibility planning and Ã…sa Forsberg will write to Katrin Fischer to promote cooperation, as I have 3 weeks of holiday. 11:38 ashimema :) 11:38 TimothyAlexis What do I need to do to get this to work? cleanup_database.pl --fees 1 11:40 TimothyAlexis --fees DAYS purge entries accountlines older than DAYS days, where amountoutstanding is 0 or NULL. In the case of --fees, DAYS must be greater than or equal to 1 11:41 TimothyAlexis 130 entries remain in accountlines table with amountoutstanding = 0 11:45 ashimema hmm 11:46 ashimema perhaps run it without the --confirm (assuming that one requires confirm).. but prepend it with `DBIC_TRACE=1 DBIC_TRACE_PROFILE=console` 11:46 ashimema that'll spit out the SQL queries it's using 11:46 ashimema I think 11:49 TimothyAlexis I ran it with --verbose and got: 11:49 TimothyAlexis Purging records from accountlines. 11:49 TimothyAlexis Done purging records from accountlines. 11:50 TimothyAlexis How do I prepend that? 11:55 ashimema literally put it before you execute the command 11:55 ashimema `DBIC_TRACE=1 DBIC_TRACE_PROFILE=console ./cleanup_database.pl --whatever` 12:04 tcohen morning 12:07 oleonard Hi tcohen 12:07 tcohen hey oleonard 12:07 wahanui somebody said oleonard was happy for ashimema to write the release script 12:10 oleonard All of wahanui's knowledge of us centers around release scripts. 12:23 tcohen tcohen? 12:23 wahanui you are the man you want to thank 12:23 tcohen well, I haven't released anything for a while it seems LOL 12:23 * tcohen feels left apart 12:25 oleonard tcohen: If you want to release something I'm sure it can be arranged in a few months ;) 12:25 TimothyAlexis Thank you ashimema 13:10 eythian hi 13:23 ashimema jajm did the customer have a clear use for cancel vs writeoff? 13:24 ashimema we're going to end up with lots of very similar actions.. 'Writeoff', 'Cancel', 'Discount', 'Refund' 13:24 ashimema I suppose they all sort of make sense. 13:37 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3 build #1: SUCCESS in 52 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3/1/ 14:24 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3 build #2: SUCCESS in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3/2/ 14:43 caroline Dumb question: is it possible to manually transfer an item to another library without it having to be sent back as soon as it is checked in to "receive" the transfer? 14:43 caroline I don't necessarily want to change the circ rules, I just want to transfer some items from library A to library B 14:44 oleonard I think you'd have to update the home location 14:44 oleonard ...if the circ rule doesn't say the item type should float 14:44 caroline ok 14:50 caroline I don't know why I thought if you made a transfer, it could stay at the destination library until it was checked out 14:51 caroline without changing the rule for everything in circ rules 14:51 oleonard caroline: I think one could argue that it *should* work that way. 14:52 oleonard Otherwise there's not really a point to the transfer system... unless you're worried about "contaminating" your check-in stats. 14:59 caroline I'm thinking of a particular client, a school board with ~60 schools, which at the beginning of each year loan out thousands of textbooks, and they'd have to transfer some from one school to another to meet the demand of more populous schools.... 15:00 caroline I wouldn't necessarily want them to have to change the home branch, because eventually the books would have to return to their home branch 15:00 caroline and I don't want to have the whole collection float 15:01 caroline I would want to transfer the items, have them checked out at the other school, and then when they are checked in, they return to their home branch 15:01 caroline does that make sense? 15:02 oleonard Yes 15:03 reiveune bye 15:27 lukeG Hi oleonard, got a question about bz12093 which I pushed to 20.05 but then reverted on cait's request. Now it should be OK to backport bz12093 AND bz25804, right? 15:38 caroline lukeG: I suggest you ask your question again, it seems oleonard was out :) 15:41 lukeG I tested it and all seems well, but I can make sure! 15:41 lukeG Hi oleonard, got a question about bz12093 which I pushed to 20.05 but then reverted on cait's request. Now it should be OK to backport bz12093 AND bz25804, right? 15:44 cait1 bug 12093 15:44 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12093 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, david.roberts, Pushed to stable , Add CSS classes to item statuses in detail view 15:57 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9 build #26: SUCCESS in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9/26/ 16:06 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U18 build #20: SUCCESS in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U18/20/ 16:07 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9_My8 build #18: SUCCESS in 50 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9_My8/18/ 16:15 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U16 build #17: SUCCESS in 57 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U16/17/ 16:34 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #25: SUCCESS in 1 hr 14 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D10/25/ 16:36 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D11 build #24: SUCCESS in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D11/24/ 16:42 ashimema bug 22393 back at you cait :) 16:42 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22393 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Remove last remaining manualinvoice use 16:52 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U18 build #21: SUCCESS in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U18/21/ 16:57 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9 build #27: SUCCESS in 50 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9/27/ 17:11 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U20 build #17: SUCCESS in 56 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U20/17/ 17:17 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9_My8 build #19: SUCCESS in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9_My8/19/ 17:38 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U16 build #18: SUCCESS in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U16/18/ 17:44 oleonard Sorry lukeG, was afk 17:45 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D11 build #25: SUCCESS in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D11/25/ 17:46 lukeG no worries oleonard, I backported bz12093 AND bz25804 and everything seems fine to me! 17:47 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #26: SUCCESS in 1 hr 13 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D10/26/ 17:57 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9 build #28: UNSTABLE in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9/28/ 18:08 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U18 build #22: SUCCESS in 56 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U18/22/ 18:12 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 18:12 mtompset @seen oleonard 18:12 huginn mtompset: oleonard was last seen in #koha 28 minutes and 15 seconds ago: <oleonard> Sorry lukeG, was afk 18:13 mtompset oleonard, if you are here, I was wondering if I could pick your brain on how to get the last few feet on the bug 6815 problem. 18:13 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6815 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, ASSIGNED , Capture member photo via webcam 18:13 mtompset I actually have it updating it in the DB correctly now, but the page needs to refresh in order to see the change. 18:16 oleonard mtompset are you talking about a newer patch than what is on the bug right now? 18:16 mtompset Any ideas? 18:16 mtompset I took what was there... 18:16 mtompset and kept going. 18:16 mtompset I have the modal close after clicking "Take picture". 18:17 mtompset But the main page doesn't show the picture. 18:17 mtompset I refresh the page. The picture is now correct. 18:17 mtompset How do I force that image to reload? 18:19 mtompset Here... let me push up what I have thus far. 18:20 oleonard mtompset: Googling a little suggests that updating the image src with a timestamp query string might do it 18:20 oleonard image.jpg?random="+new Date().getTime(); 18:21 mtompset but the same things suggest that will fill the cache. 18:24 mtompset I've pushed up my next step onto the bug. 18:28 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9_My8 build #20: SUCCESS in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9_My8/20/ 18:32 mtompset OH! Idea! change the src twice! 18:33 oleonard mtompset I think it would be good to take the picture, display it, and the offer the option to re-take or save. 18:33 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U16 build #19: SUCCESS in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U16/19/ 18:34 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U20 build #18: SUCCESS in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U20/18/ 18:34 oleonard mtompset I notice that after taking the picture the browser (and my webcam) still indicate that the camera is active. 18:41 mtompset Let me see if I can deal with that. 18:42 mtompset As for the retake... click take again -- once the refresh the image portion works. 18:58 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #27: SUCCESS in 1 hr 11 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D10/27/ 19:03 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D11 build #26: UNSTABLE in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D11/26/ 19:12 mtompset Okay webcam should turn off now. 19:13 mtompset Still have the last few feet problem: refresh the image. 19:15 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 19:15 wahanui Congratulations! 19:15 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9 build #29: FIXED in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9/29/ 19:17 mtompset okay, bleep it. We'll bleep it hard. reload everything! bwhahahaha! 19:21 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U18 build #23: SUCCESS in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U18/23/ 19:28 mtompset Greetings, khall. 19:29 * mtompset laughs, "I was just being friendly!" 19:29 mtompset oleonard, Feel free to checkout bug 6815 now. 19:29 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6815 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Capture member photo via webcam 20:59 * caroline is still feeling revolutionary, typing commie instead of commit... 21:12 davidnind lol! (setup a git alias and you can be a revolutionary for ever) 23:35 mtompset davidnind++ # humorous idea. :) 23:38 davidnind :)