Time  Nick          Message
23:42 oleonard-away The "FailedLoginAttempts" preference doesn't seem to be working for me at all...
21:25 aleisha_      hi caroline :)
21:20 caroline      hi aleisha_!
21:14 aleisha_      hello
19:24 wizzyrea      it's got ICU
19:08 * tcohen      is still thinking
19:05 oleonard-away #koha is 0 for 2 on helping wizzyrea today
18:55 wizzyrea      hi, can anyone think of a reason why a zebra indexed catalogue would not be able to limit on location or ccode?
17:31 tcohen        lari absolutely :-D
17:29 tuxayo        Edge getting based on Chromium isn't a good news in that regard.
17:29 tuxayo        We should worry about whatever path Google want's to take in the future is not in our hands.
17:28 tuxayo        ^^
17:28 lari          i suppose so. either way the marriage of M$ and governmental instances give me the creeps :)
17:26 tuxayo        Yes, we shouldn't expect Microsoft diverging from what Chromium is displaying.
17:25 tcohen        an economical one. and I guess they will try to be as compatible as possible regarding page rendering
17:24 tcohen        there's a reason for a chromium-based successor of the old IE
17:23 tuxayo        lari: I wouldn't worry much. chromium edge is a path closer to Firefox and Chromium/Chrome than IE 11 and Edge Legacy
17:22 oleonard      I guess that goes without saying
17:21 oleonard      lari I certainly hope that it being chromium-based will mean it will have fewer quirks
17:19 lari          has anyone tested koha with chromium edge? does it work? we have a bit of sticky situation here, our client needs support for chromium edge but i suppose whatever path M$ wants to take in the future is not in our hands
17:17 kidclamp      heh, birthday present to myself to work on things i like ;-)
17:17 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17661 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Needs Signoff , Differences in field ending (whitespace, punctuation) cause duplicate facets
17:17 cait          kidclamp: why do I get a birthday surprise on your birthday? bug 17661 - hope to test soon!
16:21 cait          i fixed it locally, as there are no new versions for this
16:20 cait          um i mean the version is hidden on translate.koha-communtiy.org because it's so old
16:20 cait          i thought I had seen this come up recenlty, but 18.11 is end of life - po files even hidden in po
16:20 tuxayo        right!
16:20 cait          so the po file check does most likely not highlight the mistake
16:19 cait          the mistake is that it's used to translate to xslt... and that doesn't work in the specific case
16:19 cait          it#s not a mistake in the po
16:19 cait          tuxayo: not sure that the tool would catch it
16:19 tuxayo        yes!
16:19 huginn        tuxayo: The operation succeeded.  Quote #341 added.
16:19 tuxayo        @quote add caroline : y'all are magicians, shouldn't be hard
16:17 huginn        tuxayo: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
16:17 tuxayo        @quote add caroline : y'all are magicians, shouldn't be hard
16:13 tuxayo        «You must check the po files for errors»
16:13 tuxayo        Is it related to this? https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Release_maintenance
16:13 tuxayo        cait: «i think the 18.11 po didn't get updated to fix this»
16:09 caroline      y'all are magicians, shouldn't be hard
16:08 caroline      I'm sure there's a way to prevent emails from being sent for resolved fixed if that's the only issue
16:08 caroline      And it falls on the shoulders of cait and rangi to clean up every once in a while
16:07 tuxayo        🤷
16:07 caroline      It says skip it, so I guess no one does it
16:07 tuxayo        caroline: oleonard «I thought the person who pushed it to oldoldstable marked it as resolved fixed» https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Release_maintenance#Update_bugzilla_2
15:35 caroline      But it's not separating multiple subjects, it's separating the head and the subdivisions
15:34 caroline      Rn the description is "Separate multiple displayed authors, series or subjects with"
15:34 caroline      But it's what I thought, the description is not right
15:34 oleonard      Sounds like someone hesitantly giving the answer in class
15:33 caroline      It looks terrible haha! " Cat owners -a-a-United States -a-a-Biography. "
15:33 cait          these plces use the really old methods from Biblio
15:32 caroline      cait: indeed, in the cart, when you click on "more details"
15:32 cait          i removed replaced them and now i got a french detail page again
15:32 cait          i think the 18.11 po didn't get updated to fix this
15:32 cait          update: it was the &bnsp;
15:31 tcohen        enkidu hehe
15:31 tcohen        cait I think it is non-XSLT view
15:31 cait          maybe in the cart views and emails
15:31 enkidu        tcohen: * First run koha-translate --install de-DE , hehe I liked this
15:31 cait          and GetMarcSubjects
15:30 cait          but not the xslt
15:30 cait          hm looks like some of the cataloguing plugins use it
15:29 cait          caroline: trying to have a look
15:28 caroline      How/when is AuthoritySeparator used? Is it when you don't use XSLT? I chaged it to "-a-a-" just to see where it was used and I can't find it
15:27 cait           ?
15:26 cait          could it be the non-breaking space ?
15:22 cait          not giving me a line or anything :(
15:22 cait          xsltParseTemplateContent: xslt:text content problem
15:22 cait          compilation error: file /home/vagrant/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/fr-FR/xslt/MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl element text
15:22 cait          not that link
15:22 cait          oh
15:21 cait          hm plack-err-log not being helpful: https://wiki.koha-community.org/w/index.php?title=Mana_central_database&curid=3649&diff=26004&oldid=24314
15:21 tcohen        * The repeat the command for your prefered language
15:21 tcohen        * First run koha-translate --install de-DE
15:20 tcohen        we should update the wiki
15:19 cait          murphy...
15:19 enkidu        And it worked, what is funny that, after installing de-DE, tr-TR also become visible. O:-)
15:18 cait          funily i am jsut trying to debug why detail views in french are broken for us.... same boat
15:18 cait          de-DE shoudl work! *hopes*
15:17 enkidu        Let me try de-DE and then -v again.
15:16 cait          enkidu: i'd rerun the install command with -v
15:16 cait          an di think opac gets run after intranet ... so it could be
15:16 cait          i had it happen that it would stop coyping files at some point and not finish
15:16 tcohen        and probably restart all the things
15:15 tcohen        you should try another language
15:14 tcohen        maybe the translation process got trucated/broken
15:14 enkidu        But we cannot select in the system preferences.
15:13 enkidu        we have language files under /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/bootstrap
15:12 enkidu        drwxr-xr-x  6 root root 4096 Tem  7 15:02 tr-TR
15:12 enkidu        Yes cait, I've checked with server and update the language
15:10 cait          could the language have not been completely installed? like was there an error maybe?
15:10 cait          so it's in language but not in opaclanguage?
15:09 enkidu        Hi all, does anyone got a problem like this? after upgrade Koha 20.05.01 by apt-get upgrade koha-common, local opac languaged missed we cannot see from opaclanguages from system preferences, but there is in language system pref.
15:05 reiveune      bye
15:00 * tcohen      always acccepts cookies
14:55 * cait        sends cookies
14:54 * tcohen      meant that
14:54 cait          tcohen: moving it would beok
14:52 cait          (kill MaxFine)
14:51 kidclamp      hah
14:51 cait          tcohen: no we don't
14:51 cait          oleonard++ thx for the sign-off
14:51 cait          kidclamp++ thx for the fail qa :)
14:47 tcohen        exactly, we now have a new DB table to properly handle the global > specific setting
14:46 caroline      It's pretty much half dead already... :/ I've had several complaints from clients
14:44 tcohen        we need to kill MaxFine :-D
14:39 * oleonard    waves to wizzyrea in a sympathetic but unhelpful way
14:37 wizzyrea      hallo friends, is there a known problem with mana? we've been getting 502 errors
14:22 oleonard      Null404 look for "Overdue fines cap" in the circulation rule options
14:21 cait          yes, there is global and per rule ones
14:21 oleonard      Null404 or look at the Circulation and Fine rules to define more specific settings
14:21 oleonard      Null404 I think  MaxFine is the pref you want
13:48 Null404       Is the in KOHA an option to limit fee amount ? For expample: after 200$ KOHA don't count bigger fee
13:46 * ashimema    is getting the YASP (Yet Another System Preference) twitch with this ILL bug ;)
13:46 ashimema      any
13:46 Null404       hello everyone
13:45 cait          ?
13:45 cait          which oneß
13:45 cait          oh!
13:45 ashimema      I meant in Koha
13:45 ashimema      ooh..
13:45 cait          it's either a switch in bugzilla or he turns it off server side
13:45 cait          you'd have to ask chris how he does it
13:44 ashimema      other than setting it blank?
13:44 ashimema      can you disable a notice somehow..
13:35 ashimema      yup
13:29 cait          i thin the issue is turning off the mail
13:29 ashimema      I even have the scripts ready to go
13:29 ashimema      but was told we couldn't do it as it would spam too many people
13:29 * ashimema    wanted to do it more thoroughly as part of releaseing
13:28 oleonard      Thanks cait
13:26 cait          https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Post_major_release_tasks
13:26 cait          it's written up on the wiki
13:26 cait          yes, it#s not a cron, i meet with rangi, he turns off email and we do batch edits
13:25 oleonard      cait, it's something you do manually?
13:25 oleonard      caroline: Me too
13:25 caroline      I thought the person who pushed it to oldoldstable marked it as resolved fixed
13:24 cait          6 months?
13:24 cait          well 3 months old at the time we do the bug mass edit... so it could be older at some point
13:24 cait          hm i think i only pick things at least 3 months old... maybe could add another thing to check for pushed oldoldstable next time?
13:22 oleonard      How long after something has been marked "pushed to oldoldstable" should we be concerned about why it isn't marked "resolved fixed?"
12:28 tcohen        TimothyAlexis you should write a plan, on the Wiki and probably propose some joint action on koha-devel
12:23 TimothyAlexis When I'm back.
12:22 TimothyAlexis I need to go away from the keyboard for some hours. I will post this in the Slack channel and opt for more to be involved.
12:17 TimothyAlexis I think this requires cooperation on a larger scale. Is there such an opportunity available today?
12:13 wahanui       darn tootin' it is.
12:13 ashimema      excellent
12:13 TimothyAlexis Which currently holds 29 members.
12:13 TimothyAlexis In Sweden we have something called "Svenska Kohanätverket" (The Swedish Koha Network). We have a Slack community where there's a newly created channel called #Tillgänglighet (Accessibility).
12:10 TimothyAlexis So that there is cooperation towards that goal.
12:08 TimothyAlexis I think there is a need for a coordinated effort towards WCAG 2.1 compliance.
12:06 TimothyAlexis I'm new to Koha since April, when I was employed at Lund University Library.
12:04 ashimema      for the OPAC we have an incredibly detailed report.. the staff side is still being assessed
12:03 ashimema      I believe they're also intending to hit the staff client.. but later on..
12:03 TimothyAlexis At least from Sweden.
12:03 ashimema      with a much tighter deadline than the Euro compliance is
12:03 ashimema      I only have funding to get us up to UK Gov requirements at the OPAC level.. which is a selected list of A, AA and AAA levels
12:03 TimothyAlexis I know there are many who could be involved to contribute.
12:02 ashimema      be nice to see more work going on there..
12:02 ashimema      I'm working a fair bit on accessibility of late.. but I'm not sure we're aiming as high
12:00 TimothyAlexis This is a EU-directive follows through as Swedish law on September 23:rd 2020. By then, we need all of Koha to be WCAG 2.1 compliant.
11:54 TimothyAlexis I want to make sure that the bug report I supply is correct this time.
11:36 TimothyAlexis I found 144 files with code for tables that are without both caption and thead. 14 in OPAC, 130 in Intranet.
11:32 TimothyAlexis R98 states that tables require a heading (thead or caption)
11:31 TimothyAlexis https://webbriktlinjer.se/wcag/?checklista
11:31 TimothyAlexis Every library in Sweden is required to comply to this checklist:
11:30 mtj           hi tcohen, Joubu.. the ttf-dejavu bug tested ok
11:25 TimothyAlexis I am checking 20.05.x for WCAG compliance.
11:01 tcohen        https://www.zdnet.com/article/mysql-drops-master-slave-and-blacklist-whitelist-terminology/
11:01 tcohen        ha, wrong link
11:01 tcohen        https://www.facebook.com/102.3MasQueMusica/videos/563873980911250/
09:52 nlegrand      a good day cait!
09:51 cait          good morning nlegrand
09:49 nlegrand      gut morgn! Vos makht ir?
08:35 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #24: SUCCESS in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D10/24/
07:36 cait          morning ashimema!
07:33 ashimema      mornin'
07:15 cait          good morning #koha!
07:14 cait          hm lots of cait activity
07:02 wahanui       hi, alex_a
07:02 alex_a        Bonjour
06:38 reiveune      hello