Time Nick Message 06:21 nlegrand sholem aleikhem 06:42 reiveune hello 06:42 wahanui kia ora, reiveune 06:47 alex_a Bonjour 06:48 cait hi nlegrand :) 08:55 ashimema morning 08:55 ashimema cait.. are you mid QA of bug 25850 per chance? 08:55 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25850 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , CalcDateDue freezes with 'useDaysMode' set to 'Dayweek' and the due date lands on a Sunday 08:55 ashimema I just added a followup to it ;) 09:02 cait1 not before tonight 09:02 cait1 i mean QA 09:02 cait1 i might look at some ILL bugs tody, but that's because I can fit them into work time 09:24 ashimema no worries. 09:24 ashimema I just spotted you had renamed it ; 09:25 ashimema me would like someone to take a look at bug 25723 too before the idea's behind it dribble out of my brain 09:25 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25723 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Improve efficiency of holiday calculation 09:34 cait1 could someone double check my bug about OpacSeparateHoldings? 09:34 cait1 bug 25888 09:34 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25888 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , (Opac)SeparateHoldings functionality appears to be broken 09:39 Joubu cait1: looks ok for me (staff) 09:40 Joubu cait1: master - https://snipboard.io/a8ld1q.jpg 09:40 cait1 I couldn't get that to work last night 09:40 cait1 can you check opac too? I wonder what it could have been, i'll try again 09:40 cait1 i also have another strange issue since my last reset_all 09:41 cait1 when i got into kshell i end up in some strange directory 09:42 cait1 i haven't taken a note which one.... it's still koha files, but outside the git repository 09:42 cait1 it's quite annoying 09:44 cait1 will hae to investigate later 09:45 Joubu ok opac-side as well 09:45 cait1 it could be another setting affecting it... but not sure which it could be 09:45 Joubu it's kohadev-koha home directory 09:45 cait1 i will try to see 09:45 cait1 Joubu: hm something changed tehre then 09:45 Joubu bug 25752 09:45 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25752 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Current directory not kept when using koha-create 09:45 cait1 i always do kshell - qa script 09:45 Joubu yes 09:46 cait1 and now i always have to change the directory to git first 09:46 cait1 which means a longer extra step 09:46 cait1 well i could make it faster, but you broke my workflow 09:46 cait1 ;) 09:46 cait1 ah no you are fixing it 09:46 cait1 ok, will try to take a look at that 09:47 cait1 work just never ends 09:58 cait1 ashimema++ thx for SO 09:59 ashimema been meaning to for a few days 11:24 oleonard Hi #koha 11:49 Null404 hello 11:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21395: Remove 'variable $DEBUG masks earlier declaration in same scope' warning <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=61aa3f794240443f5c2c99adc016f0d80c7251d9> 11:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15400: (follow-up) Remove unnecessary class <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1cab6e03b35ef96ebd520e4b3b314381b85c5eda> 11:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21395: (QA follow-up) POD fixes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b9e526a12fb338736e149934526e38da782f048f> 11:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21395: (QA follow-up) Remove some introduced issues <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e968af43777d47c9134ea1875270af9661ef2f5a> 11:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15400: Add class on patron brief info to allow hiding date of birth <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=281c93ed03ceede3914a7bbdd28ef4e8bfc339be> 11:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25440: Fixed list of 'show_rule' forming variables in the template <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d11e16aec74ad694bd56ce3810954091b0bf1259> 11:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25440: Fix for "uninitialized $maxsuspensiondays" in smart-rules.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cb09303e11b11de2b25852a707211a054fb2b8e1> 11:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25440: Fix for "uninitialized value in string eq" in smart-rules.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5eebfcf68747b4886b23a9d4c8df37ea7d103edb> 11:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25440: Fix for "uninitialized value in hash" warning in smart-rules.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b48162f1be1853a89e0ffc898bc0927edef93f95> 11:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25440: Extra duplicated call to CGI->param method removed <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b9ba7151667bc6481bc97335b94e44487c9701bd> 11:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25440: Fix for "CGI::param called in list context" in smart-rules.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eb8a0ffcc1bb4d751daa4221bd37faa815904db8> 11:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21395: Fix QA errors <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1682341b5849c34e59597cda780d4c877d6f3278> 11:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15400: (follow-up) Remove line break <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9391d3b263c324f096bbc75a62aa584753351a46> 11:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15400: Clarify usage of patron-age.inc <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a2207a080beaa6606e598ae9ee9e1f772e1784ce> 11:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23410: Add submenus to system preferences sidebar menu <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9d890c7636ef1d6ec0a1de2161906fd9f4375e97> 11:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15400: (follow-up) Add class to years span <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dd7490c8080e3b90c28c088568a2c4183e7deed3> 11:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15400: (follow-up) Restore 'years' string, remove untranslatable string <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=30e5985aa1babc2f5c9ab2bc7c00e99c12a0d815> 11:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15400: (follow-up) Adding age to check out search dropdown <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=507f48a438ad2e5bb9000027f2a6081e76108adb> 11:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15400: (follow-up) Updating text display <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=62a6ed54bbb77f5512293255fe9be7548724c556> 11:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21395: Make perlcritic happy <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b168f4a2e9a03ed56ce857353d4dde940980caba> 11:51 Null404 is there any way to change manually priority in "hold queue" on book ? 12:02 oleonard Null404 do you mean from the holds queue report page? 12:03 Null404 I mean in "Holds" tab in catalog on selected book 12:04 Null404 okay, I found it - I need to click on green arrows not on numbers 12:04 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #831: ABORTED in 14 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/831/ 12:05 Null404 numbers are unclickable... strange 12:06 oleonard I don't know why... it looks like a bug 12:09 Null404 I'm on Koha 18.11 12:14 cait1 which 18.11.x? 12:14 cait1 in 18.11.16 the pull downs work for me - i am looking on the detail page holds tab 12:14 cait1 pull downs with numbers 12:16 kidclamp is HoldsSplitQueue enabled? 12:16 kidclamp I think that disabled number changing, as the numbers are 'different; when split 12:16 cait1 oh 12:16 oleonard Ah, that's it kidclamp (at least in master) 12:17 cait1 yes 12:17 cait1 same here 12:17 cait1 we shoudl probably change the formating so it doesn't look like pull downs in this case? 12:18 tcohen morning 12:18 kidclamp back a little later 12:20 * cait1 waves 12:22 cait1 oleonard: there are also .sql files still in use for the installer (bridge) 12:22 oleonard cait1 I should update all the other languages? 12:22 cait1 yes 12:22 oleonard Okay, will do 12:23 cait1 thank you 12:23 cait1 promising quick QA after :) 12:23 cait1 and thank you - I really like the changes 12:24 Null404 okay I'm back 12:24 Null404 cait1: I'm on 18.11.16.000 12:24 cait1 ok 12:25 cait1 if you check the logs , it hink we found the issue - it's configuration related 12:29 cait1 I notice more installation questions on the mailnig list lately - I can't really help muh with those. would be nice if someone could take a look: https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2020-June/054770.html 12:30 cait1 and https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2020-June/054780.html 12:32 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #285: UNSTABLE in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/285/ 12:39 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10_Deps build #17: STILL UNSTABLE in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10_Deps/17/ 12:43 nlegrand hey cait1 ! 12:44 oleonard https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23797#c6 12:44 huginn Bug 23797: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Convert OpacLoginInstructions system preference to news block 12:44 oleonard ^^ I'm concerned that 'varchar(30)' might still be too short 12:44 oleonard Does anyone else have an opinion? 12:45 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11 build #24: UNSTABLE in 53 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11/24/ 12:45 cait1 someof our prefs are quite long - maybe give some spaceß 12:45 cait1 ? 12:46 cait1 50? 12:51 cait1 Joubu++ 12:54 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U16 build #12: UNSTABLE in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U16/12/ 13:16 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #359: UNSTABLE in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/359/ 13:29 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #336: STILL UNSTABLE in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/336/ 13:39 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U20 build #30: UNSTABLE in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U20/30/ 13:47 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1377: UNSTABLE in 53 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1377/ 13:49 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21395: Fix misc/admin/koha-preferences <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d3f0fc135b0b73b7dcf7fee09ca30a42e2e514a3> 13:49 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21395: Fix C4/Barcodes/ValueBuilder.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3b06780fb29467fd4276dd25d92fca375a382471> 13:49 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21395: Ignore .perlcriticrc in t/Makefile.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=343a866b6fd6850edde89a79b0c534ee2f494f4b> 13:49 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21395: Fix creation of PO file <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=133a3ef168af12897ba4c670db25d674fc876864> 14:02 oleonard ashimema cait, while we're talking about the frequency of building the holds queue.... Bug 18440 14:02 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18440 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , tmp_holdsqueue should have a timestamp 14:05 cait1 :) 14:05 cait1 i already have like 5 new items on my list of 'to file bugs' from today for alter 14:05 cait1 why do we still think of so many things? 14:06 ashimema haha 14:06 oleonard My son asked me the other day why I had so much work to do on Koha. "Was the first version really so bad that you're still fixing bugs??" 14:07 ashimema I just literally laughed out loud at that 14:07 oleonard Kids can be so cruel :) 14:07 cait1 lol 14:07 cait1 me too 14:07 cait1 but it stings a bit :) 14:17 nlegrand :D 14:18 cait1 it's jsut that we are so creative that we still keep on improving things in a changing world.. or something 14:23 oleonard Yeah that's the actual answer. We are living the open source dream. 14:28 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #286: STILL UNSTABLE in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/286/ 14:34 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10_Deps build #18: STILL UNSTABLE in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10_Deps/18/ 14:39 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #832: UNSTABLE in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/832/ 14:50 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U16 build #13: STILL UNSTABLE in 58 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U16/13/ 14:59 ashimema bug 25244 is ready for testing.. next of the opac accessibility bugs and last of the easy ones I think :( 14:59 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25244 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Accessibility: Checkboxes on the search results page do not contain specific aria labels 15:00 ashimema now on to the hard ones 15:05 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11 build #25: STILL UNSTABLE in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11/25/ 15:07 cait1 if these weren't hte hard ones... which are? 15:12 ashimema I have three to go 15:13 ashimema the table on the cart page is bad.. basically needs replacing aparently 15:13 * cait1 goes to comment out setup_sip.pl in misc4dev again :( 15:13 ashimema stuff gets overlapped all over the place when you zoom to 200%.. in particular the links of the right of the page get overlapped by the item details table when in the item detail page 15:13 ashimema and the browse shelf has some issues 15:13 ashimema oh.. 15:14 ashimema and the calendar date picked is apparently not great.. it should be keyboard navigable without having to hold 'shift' 15:14 Joubu what's the problem with setup_sip cait1? 15:14 cait1 hm you can just type the date directly 15:14 cait1 Joubu: it's broken, I filed and you guys ignore it ;) 15:15 cait1 it#s a permission issue i think 15:15 cait1 i've the same problem on both my kohadevboxes 15:17 Joubu I don't find the issue 15:17 cait1 i am looking for it, i might have filed it wrong 15:17 Joubu on gitlab, right? 15:17 Joubu it remembers something, but cannot fin dit 15:18 cait1 hm gitlab gives me some strange errors currently 15:18 cait1 The web server reported a bad gateway error. (i am breaking all teh things today) 15:19 Joubu I have to run, I can have a look tomorrow 15:19 Joubu see you tomorrow #koha 15:20 ashimema have a good evening Joubu 15:20 cait1 http://paste.koha-community.org/24318 15:20 cait1 oh just missed him :) 15:20 cait1 have a nice evening :) 15:24 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #360: STILL UNSTABLE in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/360/ 15:24 cait1 really odd, i remember tcohen commented on it, but can't find it :( 15:29 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #337: STILL UNSTABLE in 50 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/337/ 15:39 tuxayo Can someone add the next (very soon) dev meeting to the calendar? 15:39 tuxayo https://koha-community.org/calendar/ 15:39 tuxayo https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_1_July_2020 15:41 cait1 ashimema: maybe? 15:41 cait1 that shoudl happen automatically, something might have gone wrong 15:44 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U20 build #31: STILL UNSTABLE in 53 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U20/31/ 15:46 cait1 sorry for being a bit grouchy today 15:46 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1378: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1378/ 16:14 ashimema It should be there tuxayo.. did we not run the meeting script.. are the wiki pages missing too? 16:15 reiveune bye 16:15 tuxayo The wiki page is there: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_1_July_2020 16:32 cait1 @seen magnuse 16:32 huginn cait1: magnuse was last seen in #koha 3 days, 4 hours, 1 minute, and 59 seconds ago: <magnuse> oleonard++ 16:32 cait1 not a vacation message at least :) 16:32 cait1 @later tell magnuse I'd like to talk ILL with you! 16:32 huginn cait1: The operation succeeded. 16:49 * cait1 waves 16:49 cait1 time to make dinner - have a nice evening all 16:58 oleonard It didn't look like anyone had yet, so I added the dev meeting to the shared Google calendar 17:05 tuxayo oleonard++ 17:31 ashimema thanks oleonard.. I was cooking tea ;) 18:24 cait what didyou cook, ashimema? 18:25 kidclamp heheh 18:25 kidclamp oops, I mean, you can all know I laiughed 18:25 kidclamp but was laughing elsewhere 18:39 tcohen @later tell Joubu here: https://gitlab.com/thekesolutions/Koha/-/commits/qa_20271 18:39 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 18:47 oleonard kidclamp were you laughing diabolically and you thought no one was listening? 18:51 kidclamp Muahahaha 19:40 ashimema Dinner Cait :p 19:41 cait :P 19:41 ashimema Pad Thai 19:41 ashimema It was lovely 19:41 ashimema Anything nice on the cards for you? 20:32 tuxayo > Anything nice on the cards for you? 20:32 tuxayo Even after reading [1] I don't get it ^^" 20:32 tuxayo [1] https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/on+the+cards 20:35 cait spaghetti with chili and cream cheese 20:35 cait ashimema: ;) 20:44 tuxayo cait: spaghetti? 20:44 wahanui spaghetti is Spaghetti code? http://matthewturland.com/slides/php55oop/img/spaghetti-code.png 20:44 tuxayo It worked! 20:45 tuxayo wahanui: botsnack 20:45 wahanui thanks tuxayo :) 20:54 cait food tuxayo , real food :) 21:05 aleisha hi 21:09 ashimema Haha, tuxayo 21:09 ashimema Wasn't aware that particular idiom didn't translate well.. 21:11 ashimema Comes from.. tarot cards.. as in predicting the future but turning over cards (I thought tarot was french?).. the phrase 'on the cards' translates to what's happening in the near future for you. 21:11 ashimema Basically.. Cait asked me about dinner.. my reply asked her the same.. lol 21:12 * ashimema is terrible for translation... Sorry,.. typical Brit :( 21:18 tuxayo ashimema: Ok, «Anything nice on the cards?» => what's coming? 21:18 tuxayo Context: cooking. Conclusion: question about what is going to be made/eaten. 21:18 tuxayo That was some high level stuff ^^" . Thanks for the explanation. 21:18 tuxayo (don't know much about tarot) 21:22 ashimema 😀 22:26 CrispyBran khall, are you around?> 23:39 tuxayo hi aleisha o/ Has bug 19532 received positive feedback about it's working? 23:39 tuxayo i.e. what's the first need? Functional validation or signoff? 23:39 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19532 new feature, P1 - high, ---, aleisha, Needs Signoff , Recalls for Koha 23:39 aleisha hi tuxayo, it needs signoff in master. it's been in production for our clients for a couple of years now at 19.11.x so i've rebased it for master 23:41 tuxayo aleisha: Ok then I need to get pumped up for the 154 step signoff! 23:41 tuxayo It was to be sure that it won't be too early and many things risk to change. 23:42 aleisha awesome tuxayo! no you're not too early, it does need thorough testing especially because i developed a basic version years ago that our clients have been using and i've since been growing (which is why the test plan is so huge now!) 23:43 * oleonard laments that that process was not great 23:44 aleisha yes, it was heavily scope creeped sadly 23:52 oleonard A preview of what I've been tinkering with today: https://zivotdesign.com/p/view.php?p=15934747011658 23:53 davidnind oleonard: nice! 23:57 davidnind aleisha: I got up to step 18 last night, so far so good - will probably take to the weekend before I get through the it all! (Very nice detailed test plan!!!) 23:59 * oleonard hears "step 18" and gets scared