Time Nick Message 00:01 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D8 build #176: SUCCESS in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D8/176/ 00:02 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9 build #9: STILL UNSTABLE in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9/9/ 00:11 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 00:11 wahanui Congratulations! 00:11 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U18 build #5: FIXED in 1 hr 16 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U18/5/ 00:37 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U20 build #4: SUCCESS in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U20/4/ 00:43 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D9 build #174: SUCCESS in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D9/174/ 00:47 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U18 build #173: SUCCESS in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U18/173/ 01:06 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D8 build #177: SUCCESS in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D8/177/ 01:25 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D9 build #175: SUCCESS in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D9/175/ 01:37 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D8 build #178: SUCCESS in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D8/178/ 01:41 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U18 build #174: SUCCESS in 53 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U18/174/ 04:45 dcook Curious if anyone else has noticed a bug in the "Perl @INC" in /cgi-bin/koha/about.pl... 04:45 dcook Seeing an increasing number of "/usr/share/koha/installer 04:45 dcook and /usr/share/koha/lib/installer" duplicate entries... 04:47 dcook Ah I bet it's koha-plack... 04:47 dcook Or somehow the PERL5LIB var.. 04:48 dcook Ah there: PERL5LIB=$PERL5LIB:$KOHA_HOME/installer:$KOHA_HOME/lib/installer 04:55 dcook Bug 25778 04:55 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25778 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , koha-plack --restart causes PERL5LIB to grow with duplicate entries 04:55 dcook Happy for someone with more patience than me to work on it.. heh 06:37 TimothyAlexis inlibro, we have the carrousel plugin in our library on the main page, thank you for sharing. :) Where would be a proper place to suggest improvements or perhaps better, contribute? 06:45 alex_a Bonjour 06:50 reiveune hello 07:04 dcook TimothyAlexis: It's about 3am for InLibro I think ;) 07:05 dcook If you prefix that message with "@later tell", then when that user speaks later, they'll get your message then 07:05 Joubu dcook: 25778 - why not in dev env? 07:05 * dcook looks at bugzilla 07:05 dcook Oh, because in the dev env it overwrites the whole of PERL5LIB in that one function... I'll point to it in a sec 07:06 dcook adjust_paths_dev_install 07:06 dcook It doesn't use the current PERL5LIB. It just replaces it with $KOHA_HOME 07:06 dcook I might be missing something still, but that was my best guess, Joubu 07:07 Joubu but l.395 is hit in both cases I'd say 07:08 Joubu ok, I got it 07:08 Joubu waking up :) 07:09 dcook That's OK. I'm glad that I wasn't 100% in this window. 07:09 dcook My boss almost locked me in the office using an external lock 07:09 dcook Heh 07:09 dcook Just ran out to stop from being locked in for the night 07:10 dcook There might still be one thing I'm missing for Bug 25778 though.. 07:10 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25778 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , koha-plack --restart causes PERL5LIB to grow with duplicate entries 07:11 pastebot "dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "bug 25778" (44 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/22844 07:11 dcook Not sure where that first "/usr/share/koha/lib" is coming from... 07:13 dcook Oh wait.. 07:14 dcook That'll be from Apache I guess.. but then why doesn't it get duplicated.. 07:17 dcook I guess Starman must not know about it, and it must be added only at Request time.. 07:18 dcook Plack::Middleware::ReverseProxy would probably pass the environmental variable from Apache to the Plack app... and maybe it has some special handling for PERL5LIB.. 07:22 dcook Or I guess it doesn't need it because it might just be baked into the Perl anyway.. 07:23 dcook Anyway, back to guessing why DBD::mysql isn't finding the right unix socket on OpenSuse.. 07:31 dcook Oh man... lol 07:31 dcook I just spent ages... looked at the source code for MySQL/MariaDB 07:31 dcook And the problem was Memcached had cached the koha-conf.xml settings 07:32 * dcook laughs and cries simultaneously 07:34 dcook Peace oot, #koha 07:35 dcook Might be back later while messing around with writing and compiling C# apps on Linux... because why not... 07:35 fridolin hello world 07:36 fridolin C# ooooh reminds me when I was young and foolish ;) 07:36 magnuse \o/ 07:59 ashimema hahaha.. I was thinking the same there fridolin 08:01 fridolin ^^ 08:39 TimothyAlexis Thank you dcook for letting me know this. I will send a /msg 08:40 vfernandes hi #koha 08:43 vfernandes how we can speed up bulkmarcimport? yesterday importing 350k (large) records took around 5 hours (+ ES indexing after) 08:51 Joubu gmcharlt_: Hi Galen, do you remember how is triggered the huginn notifications after a push to the Koha repo? 09:07 magnuse vfernandes: that is a lot of records ;-) 09:10 vfernandes magnuse: yes, i know but still far from the record 1M import :) 09:12 vfernandes the ES reindex using 4 process is quick... the import not so much 09:37 ashimema do you also find it eats a huge amount of memory vfernandes? 09:37 ashimema we're regularly loading those sorts of numbers and are finding it increasingly difficult 09:37 ashimema servers OOMing before completion and yeah.. it taking hours 10:51 tcohen morning 11:15 oleonard Hi #koha 11:22 cait1 please welcome my new'ish coworker alex2 :) 11:23 alex2 hello 11:23 oleonard Hi alex2, welcome! 11:23 cait1 bug 20555 11:23 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20555 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , usage() function in cleanup_database.pl needs refactoring 11:24 cait1 :) 11:24 cait1 irc regulars? 11:24 wahanui irc regulars is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars 11:24 cait1 QA team? 11:24 wahanui QA team are the real gatekeepers, send cookies their way 11:25 ashimema alex2, nice to have you aboard :) 11:25 ashimema next meeting? 11:25 wahanui rumour has it next meeting is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Next_IRC_meetings 11:26 ashimema ooh.. soon 11:26 cait1 yep, that's why are are configuring IRC :) 11:26 ashimema hehe 11:26 ashimema I see 11:27 ashimema damn.. I didn't finish the actions improvements on the meeting script yet 11:38 tuxayo o/ alex2 12:24 ashimema erm 12:24 ashimema meeting? 12:24 wahanui rumour has it meeting is over :) 12:24 ashimema Joubu 12:24 ashimema cait 12:24 ashimema tcohen 12:24 ashimema rmaints 12:25 cait1 i had 3pm 12:25 tcohen hi 12:25 cait1 so half an hour? 12:25 cait1 https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Koha+Developers+IRC+Meeting&iso=20200617T1300 12:26 ashimema the calendar is wrong then 12:26 cait1 says it#s in half an hour to me :) 12:26 ashimema it says 1pm or me 12:26 cait1 i have the same on the website and in the wiki 12:26 ashimema 1pm Dev Meeting, 3pm General meeting 12:26 cait1 5pm for general 12:26 Joubu 13UTC is in 30min 12:27 ashimema google is doing strange conversions thatn 12:27 cait1 see you in half an hour 12:27 ashimema okies 12:27 Joubu the event in the calendar is ok for me 12:34 Joubu nugged: Hi, could you open an "omnibus" bug report to group the warnings removal bugs? 12:41 nugged okay 12:48 Joubu tcohen: about bug 24909 - do you mean 19.11 should embed bug 25045 and bug 25327 as well? 12:48 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24909 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to oldstable , Add unprivileged route to get a bibliographic record 12:48 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25045 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to master , Add a way to restrict anonymous access to public routes (OpacPublic behaviour) 12:48 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25327 minor, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to master , Cannot access API spec 12:49 tcohen yes, your required me to write 25045 on QA, and so I think they go together 12:50 Joubu tcohen: can you let a note for aleisha on 24909 please? 12:51 tcohen yes boss 12:53 marcelr hi #koha 12:53 marcelr meetings today ? 12:54 tcohen in 6 minutes or so 12:54 tuxayo o/ marcelr 12:54 tuxayo After 5 min 12:54 tuxayo dev meeting 12:54 marcelr ok thx 12:55 marcelr oleonard: any objection to let my signoff count as a pass qa for 18911 ? 12:56 mtj hi folks, i am about... 12:57 oleonard marcelr: Sounds like a good plan since we overlapped 12:57 marcelr ok 13:00 Joubu #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 17 June 2020 13:00 huginn Meeting started Wed Jun 17 13:00:27 2020 UTC. The chair is Joubu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:00 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 13:00 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_17_june_2020' 13:00 Joubu #topic Introductions 13:00 Joubu #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_17_June_2020 13:00 Joubu #info Jonathan Druart 13:00 tcohen #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions 13:01 Joubu #chair cait1 13:01 huginn Current chairs: Joubu cait1 13:01 khall_ #info Kyle M Hall, ByWater Solutions 13:01 Joubu #chair ashimema 13:01 huginn Current chairs: Joubu ashimema cait1 13:01 tuxayo #info tuxayo/Victor Grousset, France 13:01 oleonard #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA 13:01 talljoy #info Joy Nelson, ByWater Solutions 13:01 davidnind #info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand 13:02 marcelr #info Marcel de Rooy, Rijksmuseum, Netherlands 13:02 Joubu rmaints? 13:02 wahanui lukeG, aleisha, and tuxayo, I SUMMON THEE!! 13:02 Joubu qa_team? 13:02 wahanui qa_team is cait Joubu marcelr kohaputti josef_moravec tcohen kidclamp khall 13:02 ashimema #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe. 13:02 HenryB #info Henry Bolshaw, House of Lords Library, UK 13:02 cait1 #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 13:02 Joubu no wahanui, qa_team is cait Joubu marcelr kohaputti josef_moravec tcohen kidclamp khall ashimema alex_a jajm matts 13:02 wahanui okay, Joubu. 13:03 tuxayo qa_team is also matts alex_a jajm 13:03 wahanui okay, tuxayo. 13:03 Joubu #topic Announcements 13:03 tuxayo oops 13:03 Joubu Anyone have something? 13:03 tuxayo Sorry Joubu 13:05 tuxayo qa_team is cait Joubu marcelr kohaputti josef_moravec tcohen kidclamp khall ashimema alex_a jajm matts 13:05 Joubu #info I am planning to upgrade and move our git server. The plan is to have a new server and suggest gitea as a replacement of the couple gitweb/gitolite 13:05 Joubu I will send an email to the list in the next couple of weeks 13:05 tuxayo Joubu++ 13:05 tcohen Joubu++ 13:05 Joubu something else? 13:05 ashimema Joubu++ 13:05 tuxayo wahanui: why do you ignore me when I'm trying to fix my mistake! 13:05 wahanui tuxayo: huh? 13:05 ashimema loving this move and modernisation 13:06 ashimema see Joubu's.. it's subtly different tuxayo ;) 13:06 Joubu #topic Update from the Release manager (20.11) 13:06 ashimema nothing from me 13:06 cait1 what happens to the git statistics? 13:07 cait1 does gitea have a similar feature or the ability that we can add that to the new server as well? 13:07 Joubu Nothing much to tell, I am starting slowly to push things. Jenkins is back to green for master, and stable branches should get back to an happy state soon 13:08 Joubu cait1: it's gitstats, something different. That will be kept (either keep gitstats or replace with something a bit more fresh) 13:08 tcohen gitea must have something like that 13:08 ashimema the current gitstats are a bit weird ;) 13:08 tuxayo ashimema: thanks, I fixed it via PM to wahanui to stop spaming here 13:08 cait1 i like them :) 13:08 ashimema but I do like how they breakdown in theory.. I'm sure gittea has similar 13:08 Joubu There is not much alternatives however 13:09 ashimema under the activity tab no doubt 13:09 cait1 can you please add it to the list? (if there is one? 13:09 davidnind https://codeberg.org/Codeberg/gitea 13:09 Joubu they are nicer, but lack info 13:10 Joubu I can share an admin account to a test install I have if somebody wants to play with it 13:10 mtj #info Mason James, NZ 13:10 * ashimema has been thinking of learning Go.. perhaps I could add some gitstats inspired extras ;) 13:10 marcelr looks like you have a contributors tab ? 13:10 tuxayo marcelr: yes 13:10 marcelr with github like stats ? 13:10 oleonard Just what you need ashimema, new projects :D 13:11 ashimema hehe 13:11 * cait1 vetoes 13:11 cait1 i think yo have other stuff to finish :P 13:11 * ashimema doesn't see a contributors tab 13:11 Joubu moving on? 13:11 tuxayo marcelr: wait, I mixed up, it seems not! 13:11 cait1 i see incomplete german transaltion and cannot switch it 13:11 ashimema yeah.. lets move on 13:11 Joubu no, gitea does not provide the same views as we have now with gitstats 13:11 cait1 found it, it's at the bottom 13:12 Joubu that's why we will certainly keep gitstats, unless we found something else. gitstats is super old and not maintained 13:12 Joubu #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers 13:12 Joubu lukeG1 maybe? 13:13 Joubu I will take over lukeG1 for 20.05.01 as he won't be around 13:13 tuxayo I'm getting used to the workflow :) Let's see how the release goes. 13:13 tcohen He's on vacation 13:13 Joubu We are actively discuting with Rmaints to backport some important patches (related with the Mojo version issues) 13:14 Joubu And mtj is doing a great job to refresh the debian package repo to make it easier to maintain 13:14 tuxayo vacation of lukeG1: only after the 18th IIRC, so two days to get them before the return on the 28th. 13:15 Joubu tuxayo: anything to add about 19.05? 13:16 Joubu #topic Updates from the QA team 13:16 tuxayo Joubu: Not much in addition to the above message. The CI is a great help. And Mojo version issue don't impact oldoldstable :P 13:16 ashimema doing a great job rmaints 13:17 tuxayo Koha testing docker also is a great help 13:17 Joubu cait1 maybe? Are you happy with your new team? :) 13:17 ashimema lots of QA to do 13:17 marcelr "new" 13:17 Joubu not your marcelr :D 13:17 Joubu you* 13:18 marcelr ahh 13:18 cait1 oh sorry 13:18 cait1 work distracted 13:18 ashimema nice to see a slightly more even spread of QA between the team.. be nice to have a little more competition at the top of the leaderboard though ;) 13:18 cait1 I am very happy with the team 13:18 cait1 the Friday squad has grown :) 13:18 ashimema :) 13:19 Joubu yes it's nice to see activities on Friday 13:19 cait1 i hope activity will increase a bit more 13:19 marcelr there should be more fridays 13:19 Joubu But keep in mind that we are going to enter the "push all the big things" window 13:19 tuxayo yay :D 13:19 Joubu it's time to focus on the big moves :) 13:19 ashimema :) 13:19 Joubu I won't list them, you know what they are 13:19 * oleonard 's favorite window 13:20 cait1 I was hoping to get some dates and tiems set for testing some of the bigger things in the community 13:20 Joubu and most of see could get 2 pair of eyes from QA, don't wait for them to arrivein the QA queue 13:20 Joubu them* 13:20 cait1 the idea is... give it lots of exes for an hour or so 13:20 cait1 eyes,... not exes 13:20 marcelr ok 13:20 Joubu ha yes, we have something on the agenda about that! 13:21 cait1 that shoudl not keep anyone from looking at them anytime 13:21 Joubu #topic Community testing events for 'big stuff' bugs (example: Bug 20271, Bug 20168) 13:21 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20271 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Merge deleted biblio, biblioitems, biblio_metadata, and items tables 13:21 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20168 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Update of the OPAC bootstrap template to bootstrap v4 13:21 tuxayo > I won't list them, you know what they are 13:21 tuxayo For anyone out of the loop, I guess the bugzilla keywords RM_priority and rel_20_11_target are where they are. 13:21 tuxayo (among other things) 13:21 Joubu cait1: what did you have in mind? 13:22 Joubu like we focus on 1 or 2 a given day? 13:23 tcohen there's a couple really game changing ones like 13:23 ashimema If you suggest a particular bug for a team effort each week in your newsletter cait, I would jump on board with joining the effort 13:23 tcohen the task queue 13:23 Joubu we could setup a branch with them applied, and test the branch? 13:23 cait1 sorry, demanded from all sites right now :) 13:23 cait1 i thught i'd start a free doodle with some suggestions, but we can also just agree on times 13:24 cait1 would fridays be generally suitable? 13:24 cait1 ashimema: that's a good suggestion 13:24 cait1 merge one first? 13:24 ashimema sounds good 13:25 cait1 i will suggest as "bug of the week" and also suggest a time for gathering to test or 2 13:25 Joubu #action cait Organise a testing day for "big stuffs" 13:25 cait1 but we can also advertise outside of the qa team, doesn't hurt 13:25 cait1 Joubu: can you make sure it's rebased for next week? 13:26 Joubu yes sure, I rebased it last week so it will be easy 13:26 Joubu #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) 13:26 ashimema merge one sound like a good place to start :) 13:26 Joubu the move to bootstrap 4 could be tested at the same time 13:27 Joubu it's a bit boring (imo) to test the UI, so better to test something else and notice UI changes/regressions :) 13:27 cait1 i can advertise both together on the mailing list 13:27 cait1 i will think about something until the end of the week 13:27 Joubu #topic Generic example template for new pages in the OPAC 13:27 Joubu the agenda says "We should add a generic example template for new pages in the OPAC (and perhaps staff client) that follows all the best current best practices to aid develops adding new pages. " 13:28 Joubu ashimema: you added that 13:28 ashimema ah yes 13:28 Joubu did you open a bug report already? 13:28 oleonard My hope is that my Bootstrap 4 work will be approved soon enough that we should wait until after that 13:29 * oleonard crosses his fingers 13:29 cait1 :) 13:29 talljoy yay! 13:29 ashimema well.. whilst going through templates for accessibility fixing reasons i noted how much disparity there is 13:30 cait1 sorry, have to run - will read back later 13:30 Joubu ashimema: we use to have the "city" code as an example 13:30 ashimema I wanted to suggest we ship a 'template' template.. at least for the opac, which can be used as a starting point when developers want to add new pages.. 13:30 ashimema best practices 13:30 ashimema indeed.. but city is only staff side.. I'm thinking opac side 13:30 Joubu (we don't have city at the OPAC) 13:30 Joubu yes, that 13:31 tcohen we could have an extra project, that allows us to scaffold things 13:31 mtj congrats on the opac bootstrap-4 stuff, oleonard++ 13:31 ashimema it was mostly thinking aloud 13:31 oleonard mtj: Don't congratulate me until after testing :) 13:31 Joubu a koha-lite with simple stuffs and examples to follow 13:31 tcohen like yeoman, but targetting Koha uses: templates, Koha::Object classes 13:31 ashimema we're very inconsistent with heading nesting levels and things 13:32 ashimema be good to have a template and use it in the guidelines 13:32 oleonard There is some documentation on page structure here, but specific to the staff interface: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Interface_patterns#Page_layouts 13:32 ashimema sounds great to me tcohen 13:32 oleonard ...but having a complete example would be good 13:32 ashimema ooh.. 13:32 ashimema that's exactly the sort of thing I was thinking oleonard.. but perhaps at the koha repo level as a file 13:32 Joubu Don't we have different structures? Only one template won't be enough in that case 13:33 ashimema and of course.. with some OPAC examples as well as staff 13:33 oleonard Correct 13:33 ashimema I'm not sure how many different structures we have.. and if we should have lots of different structures to be honest ;) 13:34 marcelr with includes and block processing fun ? 13:34 tcohen koha-template --name somepage --include holds, datatable --target opac --dest-dir . 13:34 Joubu #action open a bug report to introduce the idea of having a "skeleton" template we could copy for new pages 13:35 ashimema as dcook mentioned.. using the WRAPPER tt directive could help a bit 13:35 Joubu we don't create many new pages :) 13:35 ashimema tcohen I love that idea.. but don't have a clue where to start on that front ;) 13:35 tcohen [off] In fac twe should stop creating pages ;-) 13:35 ashimema okies.. 13:36 oleonard [off] Koha is done. Shut it all down! 13:36 ashimema you are indeed correct.. 13:36 oleonard [off] ;) 13:36 tcohen [off] Just pick a damn toolkit and ... 13:36 talljoy [off] turns off her computer 13:36 ashimema but it would be nice to get our existing pages more consistent 13:36 ashimema move on Joubu 13:36 ashimema ;) 13:36 marcelr [on] 13:36 Joubu oleonard: does the move to bootstrap 4 modifies/unifies the structures? 13:37 oleonard The grid markup is completely changed, the page structure overall is basically the same. I did some work on improving consistency but it wasn't my primary goal 13:38 Joubu ok 13:38 Joubu #topic Routes for authorised values (RFC) 13:38 Joubu tcohen? 13:38 wahanui somebody said tcohen was the man you want to thank 13:38 oleonard Thanks tcohen 13:38 Joubu thanks tcohen 13:38 tcohen LOL 13:38 ashimema I think we need guidelines as to what the consistency is before we can clearly work towards it.. that's kinda my point here 13:39 tcohen I noticed a pattern on the authorised values logic that would complicate implementing the original RFC: library limits 13:40 tcohen the RFC needs some love in terms of attribute names 13:40 tcohen and the guidelines 13:40 Joubu bug 17390 13:40 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17390 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Add REST API endpoint for Authorised Values 13:40 tcohen but overall, the problem here is that having a general /authorised_values route 13:40 Joubu #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Authorised_values_endpoint_RFC 13:41 tcohen will be complicated to implement 13:41 tcohen if it needs to acknowledge permissions, library limits and will probably not be used 13:41 tcohen you can only query all auth values in a simple way if you are a superlibrarian 13:42 tcohen so I proposed a simpler implementation, changing the routes design 13:42 tcohen and I also suggested on the bug 13:42 tcohen that if the only thing that is going to be used 13:42 tcohen is a POST to add a new value to a category 13:42 tcohen then just implement that 13:43 tcohen one of the errors we made at the beginning of the API development was to 13:43 Joubu Do we need to review the other (if exist) endpoint RFCs? 13:43 tcohen forget about how it was going to be used, so when we needed to used to routes, they lacked many things 13:43 * ashimema supports implementing things piecemeal if it means things actually end up in.. all too often we see 'all or nothing'.. and then you end up with nothing. 13:44 tcohen Joubu I'm not sure about that, auth values is specially tricky IMHO 13:45 ashimema I'm only quickly looked at the av bug.. but I agree it needs a level of routing which I think the current implimentation doesn't have.. but I need to test it before really commenting deeply. 13:45 tcohen and design should consider translations which is something that is waiting on the queue 13:45 ashimema av is a very hard area 13:45 Joubu there is no current implementation 13:45 Joubu or, the patches on the bug report you mean? 13:46 Joubu tcohen: translations is another endpoing IMO 13:46 tcohen bug 20307 13:46 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20307 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, BLOCKED , Language overlay for authorized values 13:46 * ashimema is hopeing jajm will pick up the translations bug again.. it felt like he was making some foor progress on that alternative implimentation 13:46 Joubu ok, moving on? 13:47 tcohen Joubu now we can embed things, how a translated description will be fetched needs to be thought at the root of this 13:47 Joubu indeed 13:47 Joubu I was thinking "post/put" 13:47 tcohen ah, you're correct 13:47 ashimema happy to move on 13:47 Joubu #topic Review of coding guidelines 13:48 Joubu #topic We should require all OPAC pages always contain a single 'maincontent' class to denote the main content of the page Bug 22807 13:48 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22807 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Accessibility: Add 'Skip to Main Content' link 13:48 Joubu ashimema: did you add this one? 13:48 ashimema another case of the accessibility work highlighting some area's we've been missing in QA 13:49 ashimema it looks like we started add 'maincontent' classes to pages a while back to aid in displaying the main part of the page when collapsed for small screens 13:49 ashimema but.. we haven't consistently ensured each page has one such class 13:50 ashimema it become additional important with my work on bug 22807, which adds 'Skip to main content' links for added accessability which utilise these classes 13:50 ashimema so.. I wanted to propose adding a guideline as such 13:50 ashimema and then enforcing at at the QA level.. if we can 13:51 oleonard +1 13:51 Joubu at first glance I think we can have a test in the QA script easily 13:51 ashimema perhaps we could even do with an 'Accessibility' section of the guidelines.. it's becoming more and more internationally important as far as I'm aware 13:52 tuxayo > 'Accessibility' section of the guidelines 13:52 tuxayo +1 13:52 ashimema this would just be the first of a few such guidelines I'm likely to suggest whilst I go through my massive report 13:52 Joubu you are close to get another action ashimema 13:52 ashimema lol 13:52 ashimema sounds like people are generally onboard then.. 13:52 ashimema I'll draft up a guideline for us to vote next meeting.. sound fair? 13:53 marcelr +1 13:54 ashimema #action ashimema to draft the first 'Accessibility' guideline; All OPAC pages require a single 'maincontent' classed block. 13:54 ashimema ok.. brill 13:54 Joubu #action ashimema write a guideline about mandatory 'maincontent' class (OPAC) 13:54 ashimema next :) 13:54 tuxayo ashimema++ 13:54 ashimema hehe 13:54 Joubu #topic We should add a coding guideline for language involving allow/deny lists Bug 25708 and using inclusive language 13:54 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25708 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , [OMNIBUS] Use allow/disallow terminology in code 13:54 oleonard kidclamp? 13:54 wahanui kidclamp is reply i guess kidclamp is the first RM not to be bribed 13:55 talljoy he's on vacation 13:55 talljoy i worked with him on that bug 13:55 Joubu wahanui: that's wrong 13:55 wahanui Joubu: huh? 13:56 oleonard talljoy did you and kidclamp talk about specific wording for a coding guideline? 13:56 talljoy just briefly. i was going to talk to tcohen about some ideas today. 13:57 talljoy if you want to action item that i can work on it and submit a proposed change to vote on at the next meeting 13:57 tcohen +1 13:57 marcelr git grep -l black|wc -l 165 13:57 Joubu what's the idea? 13:57 wahanui i guess the idea is of Koha::Cron is nice, I just do not like creating some "system" user in patrons database... 13:57 marcelr git grep -l white|wc -l 675 13:58 marcelr is whitespace no longer allowed ? ;) 13:58 oleonard Terms like "blacklist" can either have racist origins or racist overtones, and we should avoid them 13:58 talljoy the terms blacklist and whitelist are problematic for us 13:58 tuxayo marcelr: tabs I guess aren't :P 13:59 talljoy oleonard++ 13:59 talljoy for clarity :) 13:59 ashimema it follows the same logic that 'master' is bad in git.. 13:59 oleonard Yes absolutely ashimema 13:59 ashimema and 'master', 'slave' is bad in db's 13:59 ashimema etc 13:59 talljoy i noticed github changed from master to main. 13:59 Joubu yes, master in git does not make sense. 14:00 ashimema I'm happy for us to do it to save future arguaments.. even though personally I find it somewhat absurd 14:00 talljoy whitelist/blacklist? 14:00 marcelr gradual improvements ? 14:00 Joubu same 14:00 ashimema allowlist/denylist works for me 14:00 marcelr +1 14:00 talljoy it's more clear to function also 14:01 oleonard I don't find the idea of eliminating problematic terminology absurd. I find it essential. 14:01 Joubu blacklist is used in different languages 14:01 ashimema even though blacklist etimology has absolutely nothing to do with skin colour in the first place.. 14:01 oleonard We strive to be as open and inclusive as we can and we should set an example in our use of language 14:01 talljoy communication is not about the words used, but what is heard. 14:01 ashimema I can certainly see how some people might take offence 14:02 tuxayo > even though blacklist etimology has absolutely nothing to do with skin colour in the first place.. 14:02 tuxayo +1, after double checked that in wikipedia before the meeting 14:02 tuxayo > I can certainly see how some people might take offence 14:02 tuxayo +1 14:02 Joubu so, action? 14:03 talljoy i'm happy to work on a proposal for the coding guidelines. 14:03 marcelr a general one ? 14:03 ashimema what I find absurd is that people are taking offence at things that long predate the argument.. I do think we should do something about it so people have no excuse to take offence 14:03 oleonard Is anyone willing to investigate what would be involved with doing away with the term "master" in our projects? 14:03 ashimema that's the point I was trying to get at.. 14:03 ashimema not that it's absurd we do it.. 14:04 tuxayo ashimema++ 14:04 oleonard <thumbsup.png> 14:04 Joubu #action talljoy Propose a guideline for "inclusive langage" (whitelist/blacklist vs allowlist/denylist) 14:04 talljoy will do! 14:04 marcelr we dont need a guideline for each term ? 14:04 tuxayo oleonard: is depend if we accept slavery for our machines. But someday they might raise against us! 14:04 tuxayo talljoy++ 14:04 ashimema to be honest.. we probably do 14:04 Joubu are there other problematic terms? 14:04 Joubu or just blacklist? 14:05 talljoy that's a bigger discussion for the group. 14:05 khall_ that's all I've noticed so far Joubu 14:05 Joubu ok, moving on then 14:05 talljoy i can speak from my perspective (from the US), but their may be other perspectives worth considering 14:05 ashimema we're an international community.. unless someone specifically brings my attention to a word like blacklist being offensive I really wouldn't have guessed it ;) 14:05 Joubu something else to add before the last (and best) topic? 14:05 ashimema hence I feel it needs to be written down 14:05 oleonard It will be an ongoing process as we learn 14:05 talljoy agreed. 14:05 ashimema indeed.. 14:06 ashimema each time we come up with one we need to add it to a list somewhere 14:06 ashimema one a QA person can refer to and point at 14:06 gmcharlt_ Joubu: it's currently done via an RSS feed from gitweb 14:06 oleonard If you're going to chime in you'll have to #info gmcharlt ;) 14:07 Joubu #topic Set time of next meeting 14:07 tuxayo > each time we come up with one we need to add it to a list somewhere 14:07 tuxayo A denylist list of course. 14:07 ashimema :'( 14:08 ashimema we have a terminology page.. we should just add it to that I recon 14:08 tuxayo > something else to add before the last (and best) topic? 14:08 tuxayo I got something aboyt RMaint handover on each cycle 14:08 ashimema someone fancy adding 'blacklist' and 'whitelist' to https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Terminology 14:08 Joubu go tuxayo 14:10 tuxayo The time frame between the last point release (22th) and the release of the 20.05 14:10 tuxayo was unclear about which team should RMaint (backport) during that time/ 14:10 tuxayo Various assumptions can make sence 14:10 tuxayo But if not everyone make the same, then we can miss patch to review 14:11 tuxayo *patches 14:11 * ashimema adds terms to wiki 14:11 talljoy I agree that some coordination on handoffs would be helpful 14:11 Joubu ashimema: I'd wait for the guideline 14:12 talljoy For 19.11 I spoke (in IRC) with aleisha letting her know the moment i was stepping away and she was now owner of that branch 14:12 Joubu tuxayo: I guess it happened because the release went out with delay 14:12 talljoy do you have a suggestion tuxayo? 14:13 Joubu the 20.05.00 release I mean 14:14 tuxayo Could we have that formally in the process of team switching? And about which team should process the gap, 14:14 tuxayo I think the previous team should. 14:14 tuxayo I'm sure I'm will find easier to continue one week more of backporting 14:14 tuxayo than having to catch up one week during the first month when the branch isn't known yet well. 14:14 talljoy good point 14:15 tuxayo But the actual this is to have the [holy] "RMaint cursor" explicitly transmitted 14:15 tuxayo (wherever it is) 14:16 tuxayo *But the important thing 14:16 Joubu #action tuxayo write a proposal for handing over stable branches 14:16 Joubu ok? :) 14:16 tuxayo And also transmit the bugs that touch strings that have been put on hold during the string freeze 14:16 talljoy this is a great idea! 14:16 tuxayo Ok 14:17 ashimema :) 14:17 Joubu maybe send an email to the other RMaints to collect ideas, then write something down together 14:17 tuxayo Like a draft for a new section of the Release_maintenance wiki pages? 14:17 tuxayo *page 14:17 Joubu yes 14:17 tuxayo ok! 14:18 Joubu Next meeting: 1 July 2020, 20 UTC? 14:18 tuxayo We can move on 14:18 Joubu #info Next meeting: 1 July 2020, 20 UTC? 14:18 Joubu #endmeeting 14:18 huginn Meeting ended Wed Jun 17 14:18:45 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 14:18 huginn Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2020/development_irc_meeting_17_june_2020.2020-06-17-13.00.html 14:18 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2020/development_irc_meeting_17_june_2020.2020-06-17-13.00.txt 14:18 huginn Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2020/development_irc_meeting_17_june_2020.2020-06-17-13.00.log.html 14:19 oleonard I hereby cast my vote in approval of the next meeting date and time. 14:20 ashimema +1 14:22 * ashimema goes for a walk 14:24 Joubu talljoy: Can you link the "Inclusive language" guideline proposal to some relevant links please? It's not obvious to everybody why "black" is a word that should be avoided. 14:24 talljoy yes i can do that. 14:24 Joubu thanks 14:29 Joubu ashimema: do you want to try your patch for the #action with this last meeting? The merge request reads good to me 14:35 tuxayo talljoy: Joubu This is a great name for the proposal because it matches this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inclusive_language 14:41 Joubu yes, I am aware of that, just not why blacklist :) 14:41 Joubu I don't get it, but it's fine 14:41 Joubu I can live with allowlist 14:42 Joubu blacklist is used in dozens of other languages according to wikipedia 14:54 tuxayo I didn't meant to push for a high level of these changes. 14:55 tuxayo I'm actually worried because if we take many countries and cultures. 14:55 tuxayo We should find a lot of potentially offensive terms. And it would be contradictory to center the denylist of terms on the US or Europeans POVs. 14:55 tuxayo Hopeful there will not be much concrete stuff in this issue and peace is reachable in this general topic. (not thinking about just Koha) 14:57 tuxayo note: this issue = a lot of potentially offensive terms that won't be considered enough due to not being in a dominating culture. 15:00 Joubu We have the privilege to have 2 meetings in a row today 15:00 Joubu anyone willing to chair? 15:00 Joubu #startmeeting General IRC meeting 17 June 2020 15:00 huginn Meeting started Wed Jun 17 15:00:44 2020 UTC. The chair is Joubu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:00 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_17_june_2020' 15:00 Joubu #topic Introductions 15:00 Joubu #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_17_June_2020 15:01 tuxayo #info tuxayo/Victor Grousset, France 15:01 talljoy #info Joy Nelson, ByWater Solutions 15:01 caroline #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inlibro 15:01 oleonard #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA 15:01 khall_ #info Kyle M Hall, ByWater Solutions 15:02 DonnaB #info Donna Bachowski, ByWater Solutions 15:02 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City 15:02 Joubu #chair tuxayo 15:02 huginn Current chairs: Joubu tuxayo 15:02 Joubu #chair talljoy 15:02 huginn Current chairs: Joubu talljoy tuxayo 15:02 Joubu first two, just in case ;) 15:02 Joubu #topic Announcements 15:02 Joubu Anyone have something? 15:03 Joubu seems not 15:03 Joubu #topic Update on releases 15:04 tuxayo It was a trap. Got tricked again 15:04 tuxayo >_< 15:04 Joubu #info See minutes from the dev meeting earlier today 15:04 tuxayo "endmeeting" 15:04 Joubu #topic KohaCon 15:04 tuxayo :P 15:04 Joubu I think we will get more info at the next general meeting 15:05 Joubu rangi asked for the next meeting to be south hemisphere friendly 15:05 Joubu #topic Kohacon21 - When should we start the bidding process? 15:05 Joubu don't let me alone please 15:05 oleonard Wow... Imagine there being a 2021... 15:06 Joubu where would you like? 15:06 thd exactly 15:06 tuxayo Any reason not to start the process? 15:07 thd Could you imagine preparing for an in person meeting at this time? 15:07 oleonard Where are we in the geographical rotation? 15:07 caroline not Europe nor NZ? 15:07 Joubu it depends if you count 2020 15:07 thd s/meeting/conference/ 15:07 tuxayo thd: We can try anyway. 15:08 Joubu I think we should wait for the KohaCon20 updates next month 15:09 caroline 2019 was Dublin (Europe), 2018 was Portland (North America), 2017 was Philippines (Asia) 15:09 Joubu then see if we decide to open the bidding for 2021 15:09 Joubu would you agree with that? 15:09 tuxayo > it depends if you count 2020 15:09 tuxayo There are definitely reasons to not count it since many persons won't be able to visit KohaCon20 15:09 tuxayo > I think we should wait for the KohaCon20 updates next month 15:09 tuxayo +1 15:09 thd I have no objection to trying but the three days I had to spend preparing a COVID-19 safety plan where I work on my own to ensure my job would continue would be as nothing compared to conference planning at this time. 15:10 thd s/on my own/on my own time/ 15:10 oleonard KohaCon 2020 doesn't fit in the geographical rotation because it's the 20th anniversary and would have been held in New Zealand no matter what. 15:10 oleonard So regardless we don't count it when looking at the rotation 15:10 tuxayo We are enough soon to afford one month to get to have more info right? I don't know the usual schedule. 15:11 Joubu we announce in May I think 15:11 oleonard +1 to waiting to discuss until at least next month 15:11 thd Good prospects are New Zealand, the Isle of Man, and some Pacific Atolls. 15:12 Joubu #info Open the bidding process for KohaCon21 will be decided at the next general meeting 15:12 Joubu Another topic we could talk about? 15:12 ashimema next meeting 15:12 wahanui next meeting is probably https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Next_IRC_meetings 15:13 Joubu #info Avoid 2 meetings the same day :) 15:13 Joubu #topic Set time of next meeting 15:13 oleonard Anyone who wasn't at the dev meeting want to talk about anything? :D 15:13 talljoy documentation? 15:13 talljoy favorite bugs? 15:14 tuxayo Any news? 15:14 caroline I would say spiders bc they eat other bugs 15:14 oleonard +1 15:15 tuxayo «Should I install Koha 20.05.00? Or wait for 20.05.01?» 15:15 * oleonard votes mantis, because they eat other bugs and are like bug dinosaurs 15:15 Joubu #info next approved bug: spider 15:15 talljoy lol 15:15 caroline XD 15:15 tuxayo he he 15:16 caroline twig insects are pretty cool too 15:16 tuxayo > mantis, because they eat other bugs 15:16 tuxayo I get the Mantis bug tracker name know! :o 15:16 tuxayo *now 15:16 Joubu #info Next meeting: 17 July 2020, 20 UTC 15:17 Joubu #endmeeting 15:17 huginn Meeting ended Wed Jun 17 15:17:00 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 15:17 huginn Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2020/general_irc_meeting_17_june_2020.2020-06-17-15.00.html 15:17 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2020/general_irc_meeting_17_june_2020.2020-06-17-15.00.txt 15:17 huginn Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2020/general_irc_meeting_17_june_2020.2020-06-17-15.00.log.html 15:17 caroline Joubu++ short meeting :) 15:17 caroline or extra long dev meeting 15:17 tuxayo Joubu++ 15:17 Joubu I keep it as long as I could! 15:17 ashimema lol 15:18 tuxayo About 20.05.00: did any scary bug popped up after the release? (I haven't followed well) 15:18 thd I failed to note that both meetings fell on the same day. 15:19 oleonard caroline I veto twig insects because they are too scary https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phasmatodea#/media/File:Dares_ulula_P%C3%A4rchen.jpg 15:20 caroline I was thinking more of this one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phasmatodea#/media/File:Ctenomorpha_chronus02.jpg 15:20 thd My brain has not recovered from being under curfew to control looting and then being at work late during curfew with someone trying to break in. 15:21 oleonard caroline that bug cannot be trusted 15:21 oleonard thd it sounds like your brain deserves some recovery time for that 15:23 oleonard Oh bummer, Interleaf took down the KohaCon2019 page? 15:23 thd Yes, at least the police came when called that night and scared away the person. Unlike three nights before when it seemed as if groups of criminals were using the riots as cover for smashing and looting using power tools and had the police far outnumbered. 15:24 thd s/riots/proper protests/ 15:25 thd The only real rioting was police induced with excess and otherwise poorly considered crowd management. 15:27 tuxayo thd: that's though :( 15:28 tuxayo oleonard: Wayback Machine to the rescue: https://web.archive.org/web/20190523051557/https://www.interleaf.ie/kohacon2019proposal/ 15:28 * oleonard is there 15:34 * oleonard belatedly adds Dublin to this list https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohacon_History#History 15:34 ashimema https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_1_July_2020 spot the new feature of the koha-meetings script 15:34 arghya I am facing problem when migration 16.05 to 19.11. I have resotre database, rebulid zebra index, without error. But in the opac search I am not getting any data, No result found. 15:35 caroline ashimema++ thanks for that! 15:35 arghya I got error in opac-error.log oAuth connection problem database error 15:35 arghya any help 15:35 wahanui i think any help is welcomed 15:35 oleonard arghya do you get search results in the staff interface? 15:36 arghya no 15:36 caroline I would try rebuild_zebra with -r 15:36 caroline -r solves all my index problems :) 15:36 arghya but I have check database data are same like older system. yes I have tried 15:38 arghya is there any database user creation or user/password needed to be set? 15:39 oleonard arghya if everything else seems to be working then the database user can't be the problem. 15:40 caroline arghya: maybe a system preference is set that shouldn't be 15:40 caroline I searched for oAuth and there are a couple of sysprefs related to that 15:41 arghya system preference means?where & how to check 15:41 oleonard ...but oAuth wouldn't have anything to do with the zebra index would it? 15:41 caroline Administration > System preferences 15:41 caroline no, ut they said they had an error in opac-error log relating to oAuth 15:42 arghya for migration only db miration is sufficient or any other files/folders I need to migrate? 15:43 arghya caroline that's the only error in the log file no other errors are there 15:43 oleonard Importing your database into the new Koha installation is the standard procedure as far as I know. You ran the database update process? 15:45 arghya yes I run the db schema update then koha-rebilud zebra 15:48 oleonard Sorry arghya I am not an expert in this area. I don't know what to suggest next. 15:48 arghya ok thanks any one can give me some suggestion...thanks in advance 15:53 Joubu arghya: do you have GoogleOpenIDConnect enabled? 15:55 Joubu gmcharlt: ok thanks. I have not found a RSS feed in gitea, but I guess it could be done with webhooks 15:56 gmcharlt ok 15:59 arghya Joubu I don't know exeactly, can you tell me how to check 15:59 Joubu search in the system preferences 16:01 arghya ok.thanks 16:03 tcohen @seen kohaputti 16:03 huginn tcohen: kohaputti was last seen in #koha 5 days, 4 hours, 25 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: <kohaputti> if the library has the books in transfer state but in a room accessible for patrons then some of the patrons might go pick up those books and checkout them even though they were supposed to be transferred to another branch 16:06 caroline Joubu: any particular reason you didn't want the put 24001 in NSO? I just tested it and it works 16:07 caroline bug 24001 16:07 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24001 major, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , Cannot edit card template 16:08 Joubu it feels wrong, I don't think it's the way to fix it 16:11 Joubu caroline: you can still test it and confirm it works :) 16:11 caroline Yeah I was going to retest it and put my comments in the bug 16:23 vfernandes in Koha 20.05 it's possible to define the OPAC and intranet languages order but can we define the default language (looks like it's opening the browser language)? 16:35 oleonard vfernandes if the user's OPAC interface language is being selected based on their browser's default language isn't that good? 16:38 vfernandes yes, but some libraries asks if is possible to force the OPAC language 16:39 vfernandes besides that the language cookie isn't defined for the default language 20:21 oleonard oh hey thanks for not talking while I was away. I might have missed something otherwise. 20:30 reiveune bye 20:35 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 20:35 wahanui Congratulations! 20:35 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_U18 build #237: FIXED in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_U18/237/ 20:35 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D8 build #241: SUCCESS in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D8/241/ 20:39 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #235: UNSTABLE in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9/235/ 20:42 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U16 build #5: STILL FAILING in 2 min 13 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U16/5/ 20:46 cait oleonard: we are all too tired for talking 20:47 hayley time for bed cait? :) 20:48 cait soon'ish :) 20:49 oleonard time for work hayley? 20:49 nugged > <tcohen> seen kohaputti 20:49 nugged tcohen: Joonas on vacation for 3 weeks from this monday 20:49 hayley that's right oleonard@ 20:49 hayley ! 20:51 oleonard Are you back in the office hayley? 20:53 hayley oleonard some days of the week for me oleonard, people are being chill about coming into the office 20:53 * oleonard 's library is open again but still working from home 20:53 hayley I've enjoyed working from home, how has it been for you? 20:54 aleisha hi 20:54 oleonard Pretty good. My wife and 3 kids are all home for the summer so it's not exactly quiet 20:55 hayley I bet! 21:00 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9_My8 build #8: STILL FAILING in 23 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9_My8/8/ 21:19 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #9: SUCCESS in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D10/9/ 21:29 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D11 build #16: UNSTABLE in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D11/16/ 21:30 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U16 build #6: STILL FAILING in 1 min 22 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U16/6/ 21:36 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 21:36 wahanui Congratulations! 21:36 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9 build #10: FIXED in 59 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9/10/ 21:43 dcook @later tell ashimema Yes join me with the Golang fun. One of these days I'll share my Golang task scheduler for Koha... 21:43 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded. 21:51 oleonard dcook: from one person with too many projects to another :D 21:51 dcook Hehe 21:51 dcook I know right. I'm ridiculous. 21:51 dcook Did some C# last night. That was fun. 21:55 * oleonard has plenty of half-formed Koha patches to keep him busy 21:55 dcook Mmm same here. And many half-formed ideas of Koha patches.. 21:56 dcook There are not enough hours in the day.. 22:04 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U20 build #5: SUCCESS in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U20/5/ 22:20 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U18 build #6: SUCCESS in 1 hr 20 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U18/6/ 22:25 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 22:25 wahanui Congratulations! 22:25 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9_My8 build #9: FIXED in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9_My8/9/ 22:33 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #10: SUCCESS in 56 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D10/10/ 22:49 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 22:49 wahanui Congratulations! 22:49 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D11 build #17: FIXED in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D11/17/ 23:11 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U18 build #175: SUCCESS in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U18/175/ 23:16 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D8 build #179: FAILURE in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D8/179/ 23:26 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D9 build #176: SUCCESS in 52 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D9/176/ 23:36 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9 build #11: SUCCESS in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9/11/ 23:40 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D8 build #242: SUCCESS in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D8/242/ 23:42 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U16 build #7: STILL FAILING in 2 min 36 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U16/7/ 23:45 aleisha hey tcohen are you around? 23:54 mtj hiya aleisha, we should get 19.11/deb10 passing on jenkins this arvo 23:54 aleisha awesome thanks mtj 23:55 mtj np, will keep you posted :0) 23:56 aleisha cheers!