Time Nick Message 00:00 tuxayo > between 12 and 8 tickets 00:00 tuxayo oddly in my case, I found in bugzilla that few of those 12 have been considered for backport. Hence the interval. 00:01 hayley usually people don't say on the ticket unless they are backporting, I think it's a me thing to say 'not backporting' 00:08 tuxayo In the case of Lucas they were also writing something in those case. 00:08 tuxayo And I remember seeing that from others. Maybe you started a trend :P 00:11 hayley hehe perhaps! I guess it depends how much work you wanna do, regarding looking backwards 00:18 tuxayo If I apply what I did but for 19.11.x: RMaint should start after bug 25531 in 20.05.x. 00:18 tuxayo Which gives the following list of commits. 00:18 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25531 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to stable , Patron may not be debarred if backdated return 00:18 tuxayo https://copycat.drycat.fr/?c1ec066b55b3fc3b#BFTRsYPMKZ3gPoePtHreTrQ4YgW144HKZ46ZPrK19oA3 00:18 tuxayo Are you sure aleisha don't have at least on part of that to check for backporting? 00:18 tuxayo Unless in all those tickets, talljoy found none that was suitable for backport. 00:19 tuxayo It would be surprising. 00:21 hayley that's the thing, it's a lot more work if we have to go back and investigate like this so normally we just trust that the person on the version above has made the right decisions 00:33 tuxayo hayley: It's not about trust, it's about a divergence of start and stop point between two RMaints who aren't aware of this difference. 00:33 tuxayo In the example of 19.11 it seems sure that there would be a gap in RMaint. Because the latest release on 19.11.x of Joy got release the 22th. 00:34 tuxayo After that not more backport from master because it now the work of the next team. (or maybe not until the release of 20.05, ambiguity here also) 00:34 tuxayo But master continued to get commits until may 29th. And only the 29th, 20.05.00 was created. 00:34 tuxayo So of aleisha only look after the 20.05.00 tag, 7 days of commit will not be inspected for eventual backporting. 00:35 hayley right, well in that case it's kind of on lukeG to make that gap up right? 00:35 hayley then you and aleisha cascade? 00:38 hayley so lucas I am assuming will now look at master to see if there is anything important to backport, and then we go from there? 00:38 tuxayo > right, well in that case it's kind of on lukeG to make that gap up right? 00:38 tuxayo Lucas's branch already has the commits IIUC 00:38 tuxayo https://copycat.drycat.fr/?c1ec066b55b3fc3b#BFTRsYPMKZ3gPoePtHreTrQ4YgW144HKZ46ZPrK19oA3 00:38 hayley ah I see what you mean 00:41 dcook @later tell Joubu I did add more code with my more talk ;). Happy to talk about what I mean by the code being smaller, but too hard to do via huginn. 00:41 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded. 01:16 tuxayo hayley: a solution would be to have in the RMaint handover process to explicitly handover "ye RMaint cursor" ^_^ 01:17 hayley yes I agree tuxayo it would be good to have a process for that - the other thing to keep in mind is that none of these patches really NEED to be on these branches, it is maintenance after all! 01:19 tuxayo That can be compensated being more prudent about what's backported at the beginning of the cycle 01:19 tuxayo (not knowing well the context(previous patches) and the usual gotchas of the branch) 01:21 tuxayo Because skipping them could not help due to the confusion in case of a bug whose dependency is in the gap. 01:21 tuxayo (Maybe it's far fetched ↑) 01:38 tuxayo Also about a secondary problem: is there a more efficient choice on where to go at the end of one's RMaint cycle? 01:38 tuxayo Or is it equivalent and we should let it float depending on the people and the moments: 01:38 tuxayo - until the latest point release of the RMaint 01:38 tuxayo - until the release of the next major version 01:38 tuxayo I would say the 2nd because it's easier to do a longer last RMaint month than a longer first month. 01:39 tuxayo Especially for beginners, but not only, everyone goes back a bit toward being a beginner on the first month on a branch. 01:39 tuxayo - 01:39 tuxayo BTW Cursor still necessary, in both cases to not miss few patches of offset that can be between two branches, 01:39 tuxayo because we can't backport an upstream patch only a few hours after it landed. 01:39 tuxayo And actually more than a cursor in necessary, to not drop the patches that touch strings that are waiting the next month. 01:39 tuxayo _ 01:39 tuxayo It's not about giving a lot attention to every patch. It about not missing a few of them on every cycle "by design" of the process. 01:40 tuxayo And on constant RMaint resources that means upping the bar on what to backport. 01:40 tuxayo That will allow to include the valuable patches in the current gaps. At the expense of leaving out the ones where there is hesitation today. 01:42 tuxayo Sorry for the essay... 01:43 tuxayo Everyone's opinion welcome so I can find a middle ground of these things to RMaint well and efficiently ^^ 03:16 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D8 build #160: SUCCESS in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D8/160/ 03:25 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U18 build #159: STILL UNSTABLE in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U18/159/ 04:05 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D9 build #159: SUCCESS in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D9/159/ 05:01 TimothyAlexis On staff mainpage.pl we have "Lists" and "Authorities" can these be turned off easily? 05:11 dcook TimothyAlexis: I think you can get rid of "Lists" all together by disabling "virtualshelves" 05:11 dcook As for Authorities, are you talking about hiding the menu option or disabling it all together? 05:11 dcook I'd say the only way to just hide the option is with some Javascript (so not easily per se) 05:12 TimothyAlexis We are using neither of these. I could easily hide them from the menus, but if there is an "off" option somewhere, that would be convenient. 05:15 TimothyAlexis Those working with the Staff interface find it proper to have only buttons related to their daily work. 05:36 TimothyAlexis I've hidden these from the menus. What do you think, should we add options for this? 05:55 mtj hi tcohen, my dev server (aka docker3) had a hardware fail last nite... it will hopefully be back up in a few hours 05:56 * mtj xrosses fingers 06:00 mtj i'm very thankful that it decided to fail *after* the 20.05 release :0) 06:40 reiveune hello 06:40 wahanui what's up, reiveune 06:45 magnuse \o/ 06:47 magnuse maybe we could have kept OpacMainUserBlock, with just a note explaining it has been moved to News? 06:47 alex_a Bonjour 06:47 wahanui hola, alex_a 06:47 magnuse ...and then removed it in 20.11, i meam 07:56 kohaputti ashimema, Joubu does debian 10 work for jenkins? 07:56 kohaputti tried to ask tcohen already 07:58 kohaputti well it seems to have docker.io and java soo, guessing it works 08:01 mtj hi kohaputti, deb10 is fine :) 08:01 kohaputti ok 08:02 ashimema Morning #koha 09:13 Joubu @later tell tuxayo when you backport something you need to adjust the "Version(s) released in:" field on bugzilla 09:13 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 10:55 oleonard Hi all 11:18 tcohen morning 11:29 * kidclamp waves 11:50 magnuse \o/ 12:16 ashimema Tuxayo, try using koha-push from the release tools.. I could help with the bugzilla management side of rmaint 12:21 Joubu well, it needs to be configured first! 12:24 kohaputti oh no, the mailing list is filled with these same opac/intranet permissions issues, I wonder if everybody joins the list now to tell about this issue and don't know it has been answered there already 12:24 Joubu I answered already 12:24 Joubu at least twice I think 12:25 cait i guess we will keep doing that until it's fixed 12:26 Joubu I will reply to Victor and more generaly on the release announcement 13:51 pastebot Someone at 127.0.0.1 pasted "tcohen: added new tests in t/mojo/json.t - they all pass" (19 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/22120 13:52 tcohen ? 13:54 Joubu it's me 13:54 tcohen I know 13:54 tcohen I'm puzzled 13:54 Joubu e+19 or e+25 are always displayed in non scientic format 13:55 tcohen so it is us? 13:55 tcohen or maybe the Mojolicious::Plugin::OpenAPI chain 13:57 tcohen ah 13:58 Joubu use Mojo::JSON; 13:58 Joubu my $v = '{"unit_price": 64342152748241616073212398}'; 13:58 Joubu my $d = Mojo::JSON::decode_json($v); 13:58 Joubu say $d->{unit_price}; 13:58 Joubu displays 6.43421527482416e+25 13:59 Joubu and 13:59 Joubu use Mojo::JSON; 13:59 Joubu my $v = '{"unit_price": 10177559957753600000}'; 13:59 Joubu my $d = Mojo::JSON::decode_json($v); 13:59 Joubu say $d->{unit_price}; 13:59 Joubu displays 10177559957753600000 13:59 Joubu and I just want to cry 13:59 Joubu and I give up 14:01 Joubu ha but... that's not the same Mojo version 14:01 Joubu the json.t is coming from their git repo 14:01 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U20 build #12: FAILURE in 2 min 48 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U20/12/ 14:18 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25638: Make the tests pass - ignoring the actual issue <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d6c12e2471942f2cd9c4c2d2af891507018009ac> 14:20 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #320: FAILURE in 2 min 37 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/320/ 14:21 tcohen Joubu I need to momentarily disable Dcoker_4 14:22 Joubu @later tell mtj can you have a look at 25692 please? 14:22 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 14:22 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U20 build #13: STILL FAILING in 2 min 4 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U20/13/ 14:23 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #262: FAILURE in 36 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/262/ 14:26 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #814: FAILURE in 2 min 32 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/814/ 14:28 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10_Deps build #4: FAILURE in 2 min 2 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10_Deps/4/ 14:31 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11 build #12: FAILURE in 2 min 33 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11/12/ 14:34 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #345: FAILURE in 2 min 36 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/345/ 14:36 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U20 build #14: STILL FAILING in 2 min 2 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U20/14/ 14:39 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #263: STILL FAILING in 3 min 19 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/263/ 14:44 tuxayo ashimema: «Tuxayo, try using koha-push from the release tools.. I could help with the bugzilla management side of rmaint» 14:45 tuxayo Ok, somehow I forgot about koha-push 14:46 tuxayo I'll see what is missing in the already backported patches 14:56 tuxayo Wiki page "Release_maintenance" 14:56 tuxayo «add the specific release version to for which the bug will be released» 14:56 tuxayo Ok, this is in advance! 14:58 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #898: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/898/ 15:06 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 15:06 wahanui Congratulations! 15:07 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1363: FIXED in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1363/ 15:43 eythian https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/06/return-to-oegstgeest-makes-it-home-to-library-almost-40-late/ 15:47 tuxayo > The maximum fine for a late return is €5. If there had been no limit the fine would have been €1530,75, the library said. 15:47 tuxayo he he 15:48 tuxayo That would be a lot of calendar calculations in Koha 15:58 caroline When there is this in the xslt 15:58 caroline <xsl:attribute name="class">subject</xsl:attribute> 15:58 caroline the "subject" part is the html class right? 15:59 caroline it should not be translated? 16:07 reiveune bye 16:18 tuxayo cait: around? 16:35 caroline any translators around? 16:47 oleonard caroline that's my understanding. Are you finding that it's not the way it works? 16:51 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 16:51 wahanui Congratulations! 16:51 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #346: FIXED in 56 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/346/ 16:53 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 16:53 wahanui Congratulations! 16:53 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #321: FIXED in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/321/ 17:27 gary Has anyone deployed on GCP? 17:29 gary @chris_n 17:29 huginn gary: downloading the Perl source 17:29 tuxayo gary: Google Cloud Platform? 17:29 gary Yes 17:30 gary Google Cloud or any public cloud 17:30 tuxayo gary: What do you mean by cloud? A PAAS for Perl? 17:31 gary A cloud hosted linux VM or container 17:32 tuxayo > linux VM or container 17:32 tuxayo That looks more flexible. With root access right? 17:32 gary Yes 17:32 caroline oleonard: it's just that "subject" was on Pootle to be translated... But if it's a class, it shouldn't be translated otherwise the css will be messed up 17:33 tuxayo gary: If it runs Debian or Ubuntu it should be no different than how the vast majority of people install and manage Koha. 17:33 oleonard caroline: What line of what file? 17:33 caroline hm, let me go back and find it 17:35 caroline koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/en/xslt/MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl:816 17:38 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 17:38 wahanui Congratulations! 17:38 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U20 build #15: FIXED in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U20/15/ 17:45 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #815: NOW UNSTABLE in 53 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/815/ 18:05 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11 build #13: NOW UNSTABLE in 50 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11/13/ 18:24 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 18:24 wahanui Congratulations! 18:24 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #264: FIXED in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/264/ 18:35 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D8 build #234: UNSTABLE in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D8/234/ 18:38 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 18:38 wahanui Congratulations! 18:38 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10_Deps build #5: FIXED in 52 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10_Deps/5/ 18:38 Marie-Luce Hi everyone 18:39 oleonard Hi Marie-Luce 18:39 Marie-Luce is there a way to upload a pdf in Koha and add a link to the pdf in the Staff interface News? 18:40 Marie-Luce Hi oleonard 18:40 wahanui hi oleopard 18:40 Marie-Luce Hi wahanui 18:45 wizzycray koha-list needs a --enabled --z3950responder 18:45 wizzycray i'll file a bug :P 18:51 oleonard Marie-Luce the "Upload" tool under Tools might work for you 18:57 Marie-Luce good thinking. 19:01 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #228: UNSTABLE in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9/228/ 19:15 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_U18 build #229: UNSTABLE in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_U18/229/ 22:41 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D8 build #161: UNSTABLE in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D8/161/ 22:45 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D9 build #160: UNSTABLE in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D9/160/ 22:48 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U18 build #160: STILL UNSTABLE in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U18/160/