Time  Nick          Message
22:42 cait          i had not seen that before
22:42 cait          some odd styling related to uncertain prices
22:41 tcohen        cait keep me posted
22:40 cait          hm there is something odd going on in acq
22:39 tuxayo        enkidu: commit messages: here is an example: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commit_messages#Subject_line
22:35 cait          i tihnk the -m probably works, i usually do a git commit --amend
22:35 enkidu        thanks cait
22:33 cait          i am on it, don't worry :)
22:33 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25592 trivial, P5 - low, ---, kohadevinim, NEW , Add Devinim to about page
22:33 enkidu        cait: I forgot this generally, Should I say   Git commit -m “  Bug 25592 ....."
22:31 cait          enkidu: your commit message is missing the bug number, i will try to fix
22:28 cait          hm there is a test not cleaning up its itemtypes somewhere
22:22 tuxayo        Ok, I get it now
22:20 tcohen        the comunity one has some deps, mason's the alpha package
22:18 tuxayo        tcohen: Thanks, what a surprise that koha-common can still be installed.
22:17 tcohen        that is
22:17 tcohen        I meant it was not enough
22:17 tcohen        https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker/-/blob/master/dists/stretch/Dockerfile#L76-77
22:17 tuxayo        https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/User:Victor_Grousset_-_tuxayo/Test_Koha_package_install#Actual_work
22:17 tuxayo        tcohen: you mean this?
22:16 tcohen        that hasn't been updated since september I think
22:16 tcohen        don't use the unstable thing
22:16 tcohen        tuxayo
22:16 cait          i' d say change about tt and add martin to the bug - if there is an automatism he will see it
22:15 enkidu        cait: yes
22:14 cait          enkidu: looking for devinim?
22:14 cait          ashimema: ... shoudl be asleep :)
22:14 cait          i am just a bit irritated you didn't get in there as I thought Martin had a script doing that now hm
22:14 enkidu        yes cait
22:13 cait          we have a section on this page about contributing companies
22:13 cait          b
22:13 cait          enkidu is talking about the about page - koha team ta
22:13 cait          i think you are talking about diferent things
22:09 tuxayo        That's too be customized in syspref. So no code to touch.
22:08 tuxayo        to display the name of the support company.
22:08 tuxayo        enkidu: And, I have the impression that the footer of the OPAC and staff interface is more suited
22:08 enkidu        just in about.tt
22:07 enkidu        tuxayo: No, I didn't change anything on it.
22:07 tuxayo        enkidu: QA test tool should be related to what you aren't doing?
22:06 tuxayo        But it still managed to install koha-common without the perldeps O_O
22:06 tuxayo        echo "deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha unstable main" > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/koha.list
22:05 tuxayo        I didn't:
22:05 tuxayo        I think I messed up with the Koha repos.
22:05 tuxayo        I might try that, but isn't that the same Debian more or less?
22:05 tuxayo        tcohen:
22:05 enkidu        ../../../../../qa-test-tools/
22:05 enkidu        (use "git add <file>..." to include in what will be committed)
22:05 enkidu        Untracked files:
22:05 enkidu        modified:   about.tt
22:05 enkidu        (use "git reset HEAD <file>..." to unstage)
22:05 enkidu        Changes to be committed:
22:05 enkidu        HEAD detached at origin/master
22:05 enkidu        git status
22:04 enkidu        Hi again, I'm just trying to change about page, to add our company name. I'm seeing qa-test-tools directory after changing. Am I missing something?
22:00 tcohen        mkdir stretch ; cd stretch ; vagrant init debian/stretch64 ; vagrant up ; vagrant ssh
22:00 tcohen        you can try on a VM
22:00 tuxayo        «the apt system will install all the dependencies koha-common needs :-D» (that's what I hoped :) )
21:59 tuxayo        So maybe I've found a legitimate issue?
21:59 tcohen        of course
21:59 tcohen        the apt system will install all the dependencies koha-common needs :-D
21:59 tuxayo        suitable?
21:58 tcohen        tuxayo it is
21:58 tuxayo        Maybe I should create a user with sudo privileges
21:57 tuxayo        Like koha-create and koha-remove aren't able to restart apache
21:56 tuxayo        Or if too much things are missing that the install instruction won't apply.
21:56 tuxayo        Does anyone know is the official docker image"debian:9" is suitable to install Koha?
21:34 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_19.05_D8 build #225: SUCCESS in 24 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D8/225/
21:27 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_19.05_U18 build #224: SUCCESS in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_U18/224/
21:25 tuxayo        mtj: Me too. It was I case it wasn't the same thing and I didn't understand that.
21:24 mtj           tuxayo: lets test with gitlab ktd, i like that :)
21:19 tuxayo        Anyway, that changes nothing for me. I still have to finish my install of master package on Debian 9
21:17 tuxayo        https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker/pipelines/148717557
21:17 tuxayo        mtj: How should it be tested? Env by env or like tcohen did?
21:16 mtj           yeah, that ^ :)
21:15 tcohen        I think he meant 20.04
21:15 tuxayo        mtj:  What do you mean by "koha 20.05 on debian 10" ?
21:13 tuxayo        enkidu: great! the easier these tools are to use, the more people can easily have a testing/dev Koha instance
21:12 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25591 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Update debian/control for debian 10
21:12 mtj           bug 25591
21:12 mtj           ashimema: tcohen - i made a patch for the deban/control file - for 20.05/deb10
21:09 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #219: STILL UNSTABLE in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9/219/
21:02 enkidu        Thanks let me add this one
20:58 tuxayo        You are welcome to open topic here: https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker/-/issues
20:58 tuxayo        enkidu: YW if you have feedback about the documentation, the commands/aliases, feature suggestions:
20:58 enkidu        it helped me to figure it out also
20:57 enkidu        thanks tuxayo,
20:57 tuxayo        enkidu: Thanks, I didn't know yet what kd was actually doing ^^
20:56 enkidu        I got the issue. When you close docker by CTRL-C , it does not Removing network koha_kohanet, and hence it doesnot open it for the next try. But when you use kd it cleans.
20:53 tuxayo        from the container: https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker#root-user
20:53 tuxayo        from the host: https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker#aliases
20:53 tuxayo        enkidu: That's two difference things.
20:52 enkidu        tuxayo: I've just realised the aliases in the docker
20:52 tuxayo        That's just a matter of preference to not forget to run kd loose time before understanding what's wrong.
20:51 tuxayo        I prefer to run `ku ; kd` so wen't I'm done I ctrl-c in the terminal which shutdown the containers and then run kd to cleanup.
20:51 tuxayo        enkidu: The common workflow with koha-testing-docker to run is with `ku` and in another terminal use `kd` to cleanly shut down the thing.
20:47 tuxayo        https://hea.koha-community.org/libraries-on-a-map
20:47 tuxayo        (it can be minimal and anonymous or more comprehensive if one wants to show in the map)
20:47 tuxayo        Aja: here is a map of the libraries that enabled data reporting
20:45 cait          Aja: South of Germany
20:44 tuxayo        enkidu: kd is another alias like ku
20:44 enkidu        tuxayo: kd is a command in koha shell? If so , I cannot enter the koha image.
20:44 tuxayo        enkidu: It's the way to stopping the containers and cleanup some "things" (I don't get this part)
20:43 tuxayo        enkidu: did you ran `kd` also?
20:43 Aja           tuxayo: Cool. I love how international the Koha community is!
20:42 enkidu        tuxayo: I just ran,    	 	 	 	 		   docker-compose -f docker-compose.yml pull
20:41 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_19.05_D8 build #224: SUCCESS in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D8/224/
20:40 enkidu        Everything else is working but not the koha image
20:40 enkidu        f5a2589ea9ac        selenium/standalone-firefox:2.53.1-americium   "/opt/bin/entry_poin…"   4 days ago          Up 10 minutes              4444/tcp             koha_selenium_1
20:40 enkidu        ea998b0d4e0f        mysql:5.5                                      "docker-entrypoint.s…"   4 days ago          Up 10 minutes              3306/tcp             koha_db_1
20:40 enkidu        d3cbcff29cb8        memcached                                      "docker-entrypoint.s…"   4 days ago          Up 10 minutes              11211/tcp            koha_memcached_1
20:40 enkidu        5eedfa0d1d15        koha/elasticsearch-icu:6.x                     "/usr/local/bin/dock…"   4 days ago          Up 10 minutes              9200/tcp, 9300/tcp   koha_es_1
20:40 enkidu        5f624e2f584c        koha/koha-testing:master                       "/bin/bash /kohadevb…"   6 hours ago         Exited (1) 9 minutes ago                        koha_koha_1
20:40 enkidu        CONTAINER ID        IMAGE                                          COMMAND                  CREATED             STATUS                     PORTS                NAMES
20:40 enkidu        ~/koha/git/koha-testing-docker$ docker ps -a
20:40 enkidu        koha_koha_1 exited with code 1
20:40 enkidu        koha_1       | User kohadev-koha already exists.
20:40 tuxayo        Aja: south of France (Marseille)
20:39 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_19.05_U18 build #223: SUCCESS in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_U18/223/
20:39 tuxayo        enkidu: «and it was working yesterday, but not today» Can you elaborate?
20:39 Aja           *tuxayo
20:39 Aja           Where are you tuxedo?
20:38 enkidu        hi cait
20:38 * tuxayo      learns geography. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midwestern_United_States
20:38 cait          no idea about docker, but hi enkidu :)
20:37 enkidu        I'm not sure how to debug it?
20:37 enkidu        Hi all, I moved the docker and it was working yesterday, but not today.
20:36 Aja           Midwestern USA
20:36 tuxayo        Good to see new people here
20:36 tuxayo        Aja: BTW where are you from? (your libary)
20:36 cait          you are welcome
20:35 Aja           thanks for your help! I'll play around with it some more, but that was very helpful
20:35 * tuxayo      will also try to remember that to avoid past struggles with group by.
20:32 cait          yep, basically you need to group by all the columns in the select apart from the count
20:31 tuxayo        🥳
20:30 Aja           Aha, now we're getting somewhere, thanks! I had been trying to sort by branch code without also grouping by branch code. That was causing me issues
20:27 cait          GROUP BY borrowers.sort1, borrowers.branchcode
20:27 cait          i'd do
20:27 cait          i misread
20:27 cait          sec, you got a group before the order
20:27 Aja           Aha yes it's showing 4 values for sort1. Y, N, and what must be two "blank" fields
20:27 cait          i see
20:27 cait          oh
20:27 cait          Aja: ^
20:27 cait          (group on the first column)
20:26 cait          add at the end group by 1
20:26 cait          then it should work
20:26 cait          you are missing the group by
20:26 tuxayo        Thanks for making me practice some SQL :P
20:24 tuxayo        Or something like that.
20:24 tuxayo        You can check by `SELECT borrowers.sort1 from borrowers group by borrowers.sort1;`
20:24 tuxayo        Aja: «I believe it's just Y or N»
20:14 Aja           I was trying to think of a report in the library that might do something similar.
20:11 Aja           I believe it's just Y or N, although I'm forgetting where to find the formatting for sort1. Still new to reports and Koha
20:10 caroline      or like tuxayo said, group by sort1, branchcode
20:10 caroline      You should add a where sort1 = Y or something
20:09 caroline      Y and N?
20:09 caroline      Aja: what are the possible values?
20:09 tuxayo        Aja: Don't you need a group by for what you want to achieve? (I'm not sure, I quickly forgot SQL if not used enough)
20:08 ashimema      ++
20:05 tuxayo        ashimema: anyway, If my approach works, I'll have a quick (and documented) way to test packaging. Which will surely come handy.
20:05 Aja           Cool, thanks.
20:04 Aja           https://copycat.drycat.fr/?c972a3cf8ebe76fd#RkTEEkUWquXHww2aEfs1UiPzYVZLy592yh1WFWmtjBN
20:03 tuxayo        Aja: use a paste tool, like https://copycat.drycat.fr/
20:02 Aja           I'm not sure how to easily explain it without posting the SQL, but that can be hard to read in chat sometimes. Would that help?
20:02 Aja           Hi everyone, I'm trying to create a report that will list the "count" of borrowers.sort1 in a report. In our system, sort1 is set up as an "on/off" setting. I.e. the box is checked "Y" or not "N." I'm able to get the count for sort1, but so far it's only listing which one is the largest of the two.
20:01 tuxayo        ashimema: though on every issue found might not be obvious to know if it's a bug or just my strange test env.
19:57 ashimema      Thanks for testing tuxayo.. nothing beats a bit of manual playing with it to flush out the bugs
19:55 tuxayo        I'm starting over to have an instance less dirty.
19:55 tuxayo        Which I circumvented by kill apache and starting it... But I'm afraid this error made the koha-create incomplete.
19:54 tuxayo        That warning wasn't the issue. It was the error.
19:54 tuxayo        tcohen: Thanks, I'll will do that.
19:48 tcohen        koha-testing-docker sets something
19:48 tcohen        and https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker/-/blob/master/files/run.sh#L38
19:47 tcohen        that's a warning, from Apache
19:41 tuxayo        mtj: Yes I'm ignoring it. As KTD works without domain
19:40 mtj           tuxayo: i think that error can be ignored ^
19:40 mtj           'AH00558: apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 172.17.0.2. Set the 'ServerName' directive globally to suppress this message'
19:39 tuxayo        https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/User:Victor_Grousset_-_tuxayo/Test_Koha_package_install
19:39 tuxayo        tl;dr docker container for Debian:9 where I log in and try to apply the steps of Koha install. (While using the nightly package)
19:39 tuxayo        Because my test env might totally not suited for that:
19:39 tuxayo        mtj: Thanks I'll try dig on non-Koha stuff.
19:37 mtj           tuxayo: i think your apache error is someother problem
19:36 tcohen        in the meantime, I want to build a docker for running list-deps
19:35 tcohen        awesome
19:35 mtj           tcohen: yes ^
19:35 tcohen        mtj do you want to take care of it, mtj?
19:34 tuxayo        I mean, I could ignore it
19:34 mtj           ah, yes..looks like we need 5,28 and -5,30 in control file
19:34 tuxayo        https://copycat.drycat.fr/?16ca6b99147d9830#9DmriH6Wqw4WHrxQH7cEEEaNXL6CxqG5mXnVhexJ1sYw
19:34 tuxayo        I get and Apache restart error
19:34 tuxayo        https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian#Create_a_Koha_instance
19:34 tuxayo        tcohen this steps:
19:34 tcohen        (and some deps like libcpan-meta-perl
19:33 tcohen        provided I installed apt-file and added the repos
19:33 tcohen        I think I managed to make it work on a docker container
19:33 tcohen        can you share the steps you follow to create the suitable VM
19:32 tcohen        mtj
19:32 tcohen        tuxayo I don't understand: does it install or not for you?
19:31 tuxayo        IIUC despite the current issues, an install of master packages on Debian 9 should work.
19:30 tuxayo        Is anyone testing on Debian 9? I'm testing on D9 so I should have these issue (I can invent other!)
19:30 tcohen        so it is installable on buster and focal
19:30 tcohen        adding -5,28 and -5,30
19:30 tcohen        list-deps
19:29 tcohen        mtj I was about to submit a patch for
19:29 mtj           so the master nightly packages are currently being built in stretch - not jessie
19:29 tcohen        hola mtj!
19:28 mtj           ^ the debian/control file for the koha package is built in a VM of the oldest OS
19:26 mtj           ill do some proper testing of the packages today
19:25 mtj           hiya tuxayo, thanks :)
19:24 tuxayo        o/ mtj thanks for you repo
19:24 tuxayo        https://copycat.drycat.fr/?16ca6b99147d9830#9DmriH6Wqw4WHrxQH7cEEEaNXL6CxqG5mXnVhexJ1sYw
19:24 tuxayo        Now I'm trying to install the nightly packages and `koha-create --create-db` failed to restart Apache :<
19:24 mtj           hi folks
19:21 tuxayo        learning how to build them and learning docker. Next time I'll be able to help :D
19:21 tuxayo        Same feeling when seeing all the packaging bugs getting tested while I was getting crazy
19:21 tuxayo        > watching you guys solve problems the last days gives me a warm feeling :)
19:21 tuxayo        cait:
19:11 ashimema      tcohen++
19:10 tcohen        great release, great challenges
19:10 tcohen        ashimema++
19:10 tcohen        ashimema++
19:09 ashimema      I really want to see the spirit fostered this last few cycles continue to grow.. and though I may no longer be RM I hope to continue to encourage such conversation and collaboration ongoing. 🙂
19:08 ashimema      community++
19:08 ashimema      Long may it last
19:00 tcohen        community++
18:58 cait          watching you guys solve problems the last days gives me a warm feeling :) community++
18:56 tcohen        - patch for buster and focal
18:56 ashimema      will monitor here from the phone
18:56 tcohen        - use stretch to generate the control file
18:56 * ashimema    has to go do the washing up before he gets in trouble with his better half
18:56 tcohen        I think we just need to:
18:56 ashimema      thanks dude
18:56 ashimema      debian themselves drop it end of next month anyway
18:56 ashimema      I think I was going to suggest we kept support for these last maint releases but dropped it for the 20.05 build
18:56 tcohen        it all makes sense
18:55 tcohen        so I should start over, in stretch
18:55 ashimema      I was suggesting we drop it yes
18:55 tcohen        we already did
18:55 ashimema      perhaps mtj's is just building on a 'too new' pbuilder or something
18:55 tcohen        right?
18:55 tcohen        we are dropping support for jessie
18:55 ashimema      so...
18:55 tcohen        oh, it makes sense
18:55 ashimema      something along those lines
18:54 ashimema      but it somehow magically new what additional 'or pipes' to add for more recent versions to be supported
18:54 tcohen        ah, and patch for newer
18:54 ashimema      so.. my memory was that you had to do the build on the oldest possible version of debian you wanted to support
18:53 ashimema      I vaguely remember even discussing it with mtj..
18:53 tcohen        and see what is needed
18:53 tcohen        I'm trying to build a master package that installs on buster
18:53 ashimema      but I really didn't understand the details..
18:53 ashimema      pipe.. even
18:53 ashimema      as various modules got folded into core perl we ended up listing them after the pile
18:53 ashimema      yeah.. something like that
18:53 ashimema      can't remember the context
18:53 ashimema      at some point I manually build a control file adding in `| perl-modules-5.26 | perl-module-5.28 | perl-modules-5.30` to each of the relevant lines
18:52 tcohen        or the opposite
18:52 tcohen        ah, because CGI is no longer core?
18:52 ashimema      so weird lines like `libcgi-pm-perl | perl-modules | perl-modules-5.22 | perl-modules-5.24`
18:51 ashimema      yeah..
18:51 ashimema      yeah
18:51 ashimema      I'm not sure mtj knows to be honest
18:51 tcohen        he
18:51 tcohen        questions onjy drojf and mtj can answer
18:51 tcohen        will a control file built in (say) focal work for other distros? do we need specific perl versions on the control file?
18:50 tcohen        it is dependent on where you run it
18:50 tcohen        we need to know how that is/was generated
18:50 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17084 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mirko, ASSIGNED , Automatic debian/control updates (master)
18:50 tcohen        bug 17084
18:50 ashimema      I remember thinking the control file looked really weird for the perl listing
18:49 tcohen        that shouldn't be an issue
18:49 ashimema      mm
18:49 tcohen        buster has perl 5.28 and focal, 5.30
18:49 ashimema      :)
18:49 tcohen        the thing is
18:49 tcohen        to see the results
18:49 tcohen        I'm running debian/list-deps inside a buster container
18:48 ashimema      tcohen.. even
18:48 ashimema      hi tochen
18:48 tcohen        hi ashimema
18:46 cait          ok, i will give it a go then and note i tested only the first half
18:46 ashimema      yeah.. but that's good
18:46 ashimema      having a patch for the .mo issue
18:45 cait          i mean just checking it doesn't break dev
18:45 ashimema      that would be great cait
18:45 ashimema      that's great news
18:45 ashimema      awesome!
18:45 cait          ?
18:45 cait          i can't tst the packaging - but i oculd test for regressions...
18:45 cait          ashimema: jajm put a patch up for the .mo problem
18:45 ashimema      even
18:45 huginn        ashimema: The operation succeeded.
18:45 ashimema      @later tell mtj are you on the packaging issues being reported on tcohens magic pipelines? https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker/pipelines/148717557
18:45 ashimema      * @later tell mtj are you on the packaging issues being reported on tcohens magic pipelines? https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker/pipelines/148717557
18:44 wahanui       i already had it that way, huginn.
18:44 huginn        ashimema: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
18:44 ashimema      @later mtj are you on the packaging issues being reported on tcohens magic pipelines? https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker/pipelines/148717557
17:51 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #304: FIXED in 53 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/304/
17:51 wahanui       Congratulations!
17:51 koha-jenkins  Yippee, build fixed!
17:47 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_Master_D8 build #882: FIXED in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/882/
17:47 wahanui       Congratulations!
17:47 koha-jenkins  Yippee, build fixed!
17:43 tuxayo        yes!
17:41 tcohen        ^^  tuxayo
17:41 tcohen        D8: 0 D9: 1 D10: 0 U18: 1 U20: 0
17:29 did           if a marc subfield uses a VA with  value 0 (zero) like YES_NO, it seems it's not saved in items table, it's a bug or a feature? ie 0 --> undefined
17:29 tuxayo        *I can't reliably
17:28 tuxayo        I always have to translate to version numbers ^^" I can reliably use codenames
17:27 tcohen        I added an Ubuntu 20.04 image as well :_D
17:26 tcohen        tuxayo, that's the same gitlab shows, it's ok
17:26 tuxayo        - Debian 10 => fail
17:26 tuxayo        - U 18.04 => ok
17:26 tuxayo        So
17:26 tuxayo        take 2:
17:26 tuxayo        «sent a long message» Damn
17:25 tuxayo        * At least thats consistent with our current official support right?
17:25 tuxayo        At least that consistent with our current official support right?
17:24 * tuxayo      sent a long message:  < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/YzEsBNYikZWjnXzXwtnHQMva >
17:21 tcohen        that means alpha is failing to install on some distros
17:20 tcohen        ashimema tuxayo mtj Joubu : https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker/pipelines/148717557
17:17 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #218: UNSTABLE in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9/218/
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16:08 wahanui       Congratulations!
16:08 koha-jenkins  Yippee, build fixed!
15:47 * oleonard___ has underscores for days
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15:40 tuxayo        Now I'm reading the install instruction to no miss the parts that will change to install master packages.
15:40 tuxayo        https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/User:Victor_Grousset_-_tuxayo/Test_Koha_package_install
15:40 tuxayo        ashimema: I'm still learning and documenting how to use docker to install Koha in it.
15:34 ashimema      oh man that makes me happy
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15:33 wahanui       Congratulations!
15:33 koha-jenkins  Yippee, build fixed!
15:32 ashimema      I'm looking forward to hearing more once mtj is awake
15:31 ashimema      what OS have you tested on tuxayo.. tcohen says there's some issues with the repo and D10 still :(
15:29 tuxayo        mtj++ This deb repo with autobuild of koha package from master is really great
15:24 cait          having it in the pick up location list is the most intuitive probably
15:23 cait          but it's a bit of work
15:21 cait          caroline: that#s why I was suggesting jquery to reformat the free text into a pull down or checkbox
15:21 caroline      makes it harder to miss
15:21 caroline      The thing I like about the Delivery branch is that the opo up is different from the regular hold pop up
15:20 caroline      I also suggested using OpacHoldNotes, but it might get messy since it's a free text input
15:19 cait          OpacHoldNotes
15:19 ashimema      interesting idea
15:18 cait          turning it into a checkbox
15:17 reiveune      bye
15:16 caroline      since they already know how to manage transfers
15:16 caroline      This particular client has 2 branches already, so I don't think phantom transfers would be a problem for them if they go down that route
15:15 cait          if you need something now... maybe the hold notes field could be turned into something using jquery?
15:15 oleonard      We don't use the housebound module, but I can't remember off the top of my head why not
15:15 caroline      ok
15:15 cait          just thinking loud
15:15 ashimema      could work for click and collect too cait..
15:15 caroline      Or are you just thinking out loud?
15:15 caroline      cait: can we create a virtual pickup location now?
15:15 ashimema      sounds viable cait
15:14 ashimema      or do you have your own workflow oleonard?
15:14 ashimema      is that what you use?
15:14 ashimema      yeah.. that's how Housebound works oleonard
15:14 caroline      yeah, I think that's how the housebound module was thought
15:14 cait          hm I think using the holds system might have some advantages. having a virtual pick-up location "delivery" maybe without having to actually add another branch?
15:14 ashimema      haha, brilliant
15:13 oleonard      We do home deliveries for some patrons but they're exclusively home-delivery patrons, so they don't choose it as an option.
15:12 caroline      like a ubereats for libraries
15:11 caroline      Not sure it will be by post, I think they were thinking of having someone do a run every once in a while
15:11 ashimema      :)
15:11 caroline      but you never know! :)
15:11 ashimema      is your client literally thinking of posting the materials out?
15:11 caroline      I'll send them the housebound thing, but I don't think that's really what they were looking for
15:11 ashimema      What I'm less sure about is how to tie it all together with people picking stuff off the shelves and actually delivering it..
15:10 caroline      I was just wondering if other libraries had implemented delivery of holds and if so how, because I had a question from a client who wants to do this
15:10 ashimema      and would get added into the 'Preferred materials' list?.. via the OPAC
15:10 ashimema      instead of a 'Place hold'.. it's becomes more of a 'Request delivery'
15:10 cait          oh
15:09 cait          how to indicate htat patrons want delivery?
15:09 caroline      lol cait, the conversation started yesterday ;)
15:09 ashimema      I feel like it would fit inside the Housebound code a little more neatly
15:09 cait          hm missed the beginning of discussion
15:09 ashimema      ah.. interesting
15:08 ashimema      libraries are asking for that allot given the current situation
15:08 caroline      I think it's a nice idea, the only thing is it's going to create useless transfers
15:08 ashimema      we're currently discussing how we can offer 'Click and collect' type services to Koha here
15:08 caroline      they were asking me if they could create a library called "Delivery" and have users choose that library when placing a hold
15:08 ashimema      mad.. I had a hand in it
15:08 ashimema      it's been ages since we developed it to be honest.. I can't remember how i works!
15:07 ashimema      the 'Preferred materials' may even already work that way..
15:07 caroline      We also have something similar here for housebound deliveries, but that's not really what the client was asking for
15:07 ashimema      they already get to add details of their tastes.. 'Preferred materials', 'Subjects', 'Authors' etc
15:06 ashimema      might be a nice thing to fold into it though.. adding in the ability for the borrower to add to a list of items they're interested in getting
15:06 caroline      thanks ashimema!
15:06 huginn        ashimema: The operation succeeded.
15:06 ashimema      @later tell caroline nice way of 'Looking after the older generation'.. lots of public libraries here do it
15:06 huginn        ashimema: The operation succeeded.
15:06 ashimema      @later tell caroline So.. at the moment it's not so much designed for the end borrower to pick the items they wish to borrower.. it's more of a magical box of box that arrives for them every week or two..
15:04 huginn        ashimema: The operation succeeded.
15:04 ashimema      @later tell caroline Housebound is https://koha-community.org/manual/19.11/en/html/patrons.html?highlight=housebound#housebound-patrons. It's designed for people in the community who can't get the a library for various reasons and is run by library volunteers as such.  There are three roles in the workflow.. the Housebound borrower, someone to 'Choose' the items they may like to borrow.. and finally someone to deliver the item to the borrower.
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14:24 jajm          oleonard, will do (but probably not today)
14:22 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24023 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Patch doesn't apply , Add ability to create bundles of items
14:22 oleonard      jajm: The functionality offered by Bug 24023 came up today at my library, so if you are able to rebase it I'd like to test it
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14:07 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 24347: Add sponsorship details <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e1fbb8f3874a4ab203022ad500344c96455e829e>
14:07 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 24380: (RM follow-up) Fix update statement to prevent regression <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=17cd698b46e45aff36b1a28fc44b5c775f385b21>
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13:55 Joubu         will erase the DB!
13:54 Joubu         just `reset_all`
13:54 wahanui       somebody said sample data was linked to authorities bizarrely, it's surprising that you wind up with any results at all since authid 35 is a Saramago uniform title, and the bibs are all Perl books saying their Perl subject is linked to that Portuguese title
13:54 alex_a        sample data ?
13:54 alex_a        Joubu, didn't you make a "specific test" db ?
13:53 Joubu         that should not
13:53 Joubu         with the sample data?
13:53 alex_a        "Authority record successfully retrieved"
13:52 alex_a        Joubu, many test in fact
13:52 Joubu         but that should pass 95% of the time :)
13:52 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25540 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Biblio.t is failing randomly
13:52 Joubu         if "pickup_location" related, see bug 25540
13:52 Joubu         alex_a: which tests are failing?
13:52 Joubu         which tests are failing?
13:51 ashimema      but he's randomly around
13:51 ashimema      indeed
13:50 alex_a        Ran it on a marc21 database => Failed test 'UNIMARC'
13:50 alex_a        Ran it on a unimarc database => Failed test 'MARC21'
13:49 alex_a        Is there a way to make the tests in t/db_dependent/Biblio.t all pass ?
13:48 cait          sorry, 2
13:48 cait          3 am i think
13:42 ashimema      mtj around?
13:40 ashimema      why is everything failing today :(
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13:16 wahanui       cait is scepcital, but for some things like ILL and local payment providers a plugin system makses sens
13:16 ashimema      cait ?
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12:37 pastebot      "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Joubu" (17 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/20558
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12:35 wahanui       Congratulations!
12:35 koha-jenkins  Yippee, build fixed!
12:27 wahanui       darn tootin' it is.
12:27 ashimema      excellent
12:26 tuxayo        So it matches!
12:26 tuxayo        and current master 8ec729dc01ab185fb9d72915783e997fcc3d3d17
12:26 tuxayo        19.12.00.091~git+d9.20200523000001.8ec729dc/
12:26 tuxayo        https://apt.kohaaloha.com/koha-nightly/deb/?C=M;O=D
12:26 tuxayo        packages for 20.05 are here!!!!
12:14 ashimema      mm
12:14 ashimema      ?
12:13 cait          ohoh
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12:08 oleonard      o/
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11:47 cait          i missed one closing }
11:42 nsk1          ok let me try that again....thanks a lot
11:39 cait          #login h1 { background: url{your own url) no-rpeeat top center;
11:39 cait          in the systep preference OPAC or IntranetUserCSS
11:39 cait          you can put your own URL
11:39 cait          nsk1: i tihnk what was meant was to change hte css
11:39 ashimema      not entirely sure ;)
11:38 tuxayo        I don't know was unstable/ and dev/ directories are for
11:37 ashimema      I believe so tuxayo
11:37 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 24612: Fix existing ReserveSlip tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8ec729dc01ab185fb9d72915783e997fcc3d3d17>
11:37 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25517 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Koha.mo not found on pacakge installations / Translations not working
11:37 ashimema      bug 25517
11:36 tuxayo        https://apt.kohaaloha.com/koha-nightly/deb/
11:36 tuxayo        ashimema: so this is the directory to watch until 20.05 packages show up right?
11:34 ashimema      hehe
11:34 tuxayo        ashimema: good, I was pumped up try package install. But by the time I managed to build them, all the package bugs for signed off >_<
11:33 ashimema      yup.. perfect tuxayo
11:32 nsk1          as i see only the config files under the koha folder and no folders
11:32 nsk1          but i am unable to find the img folder
11:31 nsk1          i have been pointed to http://paste.koha-community.org/20554 to change the logo
11:31 nsk1          i see
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11:29 tuxayo        https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Debian
11:29 tuxayo        So it would be following these instruction right? (and use the right packages)
11:29 tuxayo        > a package should turn up some time in the next hour here for anyone that fancies testing it with me:
11:29 cait          outside of the koha directories is probably the safest
11:29 cait          where to put it ot keep safe
11:28 cait          i am not totally sure becuase we build our own packages
11:28 cait          i think that would work
11:20 nsk1          so maybe after installation, i should create my own image folder and point the css to that?
11:19 nsk1          but i want to change the logo
11:19 nsk1          yes i am trying to change the css
11:18 cait          for packages, the debian standards are followed and files will be in different directories
11:18 cait          where files are stored depends on how you installed
11:18 cait          better to use css like oleonard suggested yesterday
11:18 cait          if you just switch out the image file, that change will be lost with your next update
11:17 cait          but you should not change the files on the server
11:17 cait          not sure about the directories
11:16 nsk1          can anyone help?
11:14 nsk1          i am looking for the images folder to replace the logo
11:14 nsk1          why is that?
11:14 nsk1          no folders at all
11:14 nsk1          i see only config files in my server
11:14 nsk1          after installation of the koha software
11:14 nsk1          hi all
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11:12 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 23975: (RM follow-up) Comment example configuration <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4c579207d90cfba4290a42a06156d0556a56a16f>
11:04 cait          ah i was imssing a pref value
11:03 cait          khall: trying to test the claim_returned bug - but i am not getting the claims returned tab
11:02 ashimema      just commenting the 'install plugins from github' config as promised.. before I forget
10:56 ashimema      sounds sensible to me
10:55 Joubu         ashimema: I think we should force the integers formatting at REST API level
10:53 Joubu         ashimema: yes see comment 12, it should fail on stretch with the patch applied
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10:51 ashimema      the mysql rounding things sounds very plausible
10:51 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25513 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , acquisitions_orders.t is failing randomly
10:51 ashimema      aha.. great to see progress being made on bug 25513.. I couldn't replicated it whatever I tried
10:46 cait          for tinymce, also verify the pop ups works (add a link to something)
10:46 ashimema      those are totally top of the 'to test' list
10:46 ashimema      yup
10:46 cait          tihnking of translations and tinymce specifically
10:45 ashimema      I'll be running up a buster server to test this myself
10:45 ashimema      totally good to suggest things to test
10:44 ashimema      we bump the version number so those things will be present on your normal dev machine one you call the db update after a pull
10:44 ashimema      well.. you could help by double checking the about pages and things
10:44 ashimema      :)
10:44 cait          also could suggest some things to test :)
10:44 cait          i am not able to install one, but if i had access to it i'd be happy to help
10:43 ashimema      release notes are not yet included.. they will be added and the release properly tagged upon official
10:43 * ashimema    will wait to see that happen and then announce on the lists that we're seeking early testers
10:42 ashimema      a package should turn up some time in the next hour here for anyone that fancies testing it with me: http://apt.kohaaloha.com/koha-nightly/
10:42 huginn        News from kohagit: Translation updates for Koha 20.05.00 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9364ddad0e5bcc77535cc86c920453267e4a0536>
10:42 huginn        News from kohagit: Clean up 'John Doe' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1b7acc052a640e4f38ee6e0bb6c29c7f40c20804>
10:42 huginn        News from kohagit: Translation Fixes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=40c562fa52d1243950c7e3ee3548e0aadaa732ad>
10:42 huginn        News from kohagit: Increment version for 20.05.00 alpha release <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a2af51d688fd72e1f38dd687649f31d8d97d529a>
10:42 huginn        News from kohagit: Teams fixes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0b651295f92c9f11f91302a2a99bdbd56a96da70>
10:41 ashimema      right.. 20.05.00.000 has been pushed.. alpha release so we can test translations and packaging processes are both solid before I announce a full release next week now.
10:39 cait          in poedit you can set 'needs more work' checkbox
10:39 ashimema      sorted tuxayo
10:36 tuxayo        Directly in the fix or via poedit for example
10:36 tuxayo        > someone remind me how to mark a string as fuzzy in the .po file please
10:36 tuxayo        ashimema:
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09:59 * ashimema    can't easily fix chinese translations.. even though the fix looks obvious (%s missing).. I can't work out how to type it into the right place without mucking up the chinese chars
09:58 ashimema      someone remind me how to mark a string as fuzzy in the .po file please
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09:45 ashimema      there's a fair few
09:45 ashimema      grr
09:45 ashimema      but just marking as fuzzy is probably easiest
09:45 ashimema      I used to actually try to fix some
09:42 cait          i think the rmaint wiki suggests to mark them fuzzy atm
09:42 ashimema      just trying to remember how to resolve them.. haha
09:42 ashimema      might ask for advice in a minute.. just running the junit test for translations.. they always throw a few errors in my experience.
09:34 cait          can i help with something?
09:34 cait          here for about 2 hours i think
09:34 wahanui       que tal, cait
09:34 cait          hello
09:33 ashimema      cait
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09:27 * cait        waves
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08:46 huginn        News from kohagit: Update Contributors for 20.05 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3e597a1fade7079bf51708e7935c16d704daa5b8>
08:46 huginn        News from kohagit: Add 20.11 release team <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c6dc178f2e4de65e753c6a62c9550c9361120173>
08:36 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 24612: Make hold-transfer-slip take reserve_id <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d864c5640a3e3b02cbb64bde034935fa746a09ce>
08:36 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 24413: Apply AutoRemoveOverduesRestrictions for lost items <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=70ae2eaf9cdc7708f85b1724e5bc89623355b585>
08:36 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 24413: Do not remove the restrictions from AddReturn <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=10af741387a75d29c6b7782c6ce3d2c07cad9517>
08:36 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 24612: Add tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e9e8b635e14fe1229006b556e8aa0babf61455c7>
08:36 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 24612: Use the reserve_id to identify a reserve when building a notice <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=aa1f0fd73fa2a8dadd86ef5defc390e164845429>
08:36 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 25428: Correctly encode link if authority subfield is a URL <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1bcc45be621b19dc602d675ca10d844301496b06>
08:36 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 25452: Restore alternate address email display <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=635242a69a5ed049801d018a6be712d8dcbabb07>
08:36 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 24413: Add tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bbe6b07f4340afca18763724194fbc577b77959d>
08:36 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 25473: Move JavaScript out of the footer of addorderiso2709.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9e665fb9a753032fed711959f1d8cc5780655b8c>
08:36 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 25506: Fix for "Use of uninitialized value" in about.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=67ff0f72854d4dabdda8cb59696f15e7b5d88c2a>
08:36 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 25411: Regression tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=84bd1ac370db07d2b05c1c39433cb7963a98be71>
08:36 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 25411: Add special handling for public plugin routes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8d0c44578524dc2bd7b380dac56a53382b5aca7e>
08:36 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 25411: Group conditions in if elsif <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5169c5fab8cd8ada5442b66bfa2f2165e540b9ec>
08:36 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 24229: Avoid fetching ALL items in test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=85ab68c07f9240eba08d74b232be8434e65e9afb>
08:36 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 25563: (bug 24386 follow-up) Don't disable submit button if form has not been... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=37370c415ab5e59422aff46be14ccfec0cf8c373>
08:36 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 25567: Prevent patron category type's categorycode to be created with "" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7ce6f7895610913f35fb1531faa1a40cefcd5f88>
08:36 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 25567: Fix typo categorycode vs category_code <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4e945dff87a8bc4badb605361c1db63f71b04a07>
06:45 reiveune      hello
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