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23:54 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D9 build #146: FIXED in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D9/146/
23:54 wahanui Congratulations!
23:54 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
23:30 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D8 build #205: SUCCESS in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D8/205/
23:20 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U18 build #145: STILL UNSTABLE in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U18/145/
22:57 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_U18 build #203: STILL UNSTABLE in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_U18/203/
22:44 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D8 build #146: FIXED in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D8/146/
22:44 wahanui Congratulations!
22:44 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
22:17 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #197: SUCCESS in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9/197/
22:13 tuxayo (In the future if a test plan doesn't go as expected)
22:12 tuxayo I'll try to think more about testing with another debian version if I get weird bugs like that.
22:12 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D9 build #145: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 2 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D9/145/
22:12 tuxayo wow, maybe that was my issue for another bug! I have to use koha-remove which I guess uses koha-stop.
22:10 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25482 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED , koha-plack not working under D10
22:10 tcohen bug 25482
22:09 tuxayo Glad to hear that the issue won't keep stealing your fun for too long. ^^
22:08 tuxayo Since few weeks actually I was using ku-md10, no issues found so far.
22:06 tcohen almost got it
22:06 tcohen ah
22:06 tuxayo > problem with plack and D10 aint no fun
22:06 tuxayo Oh dear
22:06 tcohen ?
22:05 tuxayo tcohen: It wasn't a joke that it wasn't starting?!
21:38 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
21:38 tcohen @later tell ashimema the problem with plack and D10 aint no fun
21:32 hayley yep, the doc's pretty good, if you get stuck though feel free to hit me up! tuxayo :)
21:23 tuxayo https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Release_maintenance
21:23 tuxayo We seem to have a nice doc about that though
21:23 tuxayo And I have to learn how to Rmaint.
21:22 aleisha thanks tuxayo, looking forward to the learning experience with hayley and alexbuckley :)
21:22 wahanui !bang
21:22 AnnaBoten \_o< quack!
21:22 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U18 build #144: UNSTABLE in 50 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U18/144/
21:22 tuxayo I'll be your downstream ^^
21:22 tuxayo aleisha: congrats, you will Rmaint during next cycle :D
21:20 AnnaBoten lisettelatah took the lead for the week over tuxayo with 2 points.
21:20 AnnaBoten Best time: lisettelatah with 19.79 seconds
21:20 AnnaBoten [('lisettelatah', 2), ('tcohen', 1), ('hayley', -1), ('ashimema', -1)]
21:20 AnnaBoten \_x< tcohen: 1 (646.94 seconds)
21:20 tcohen !bang
21:20 AnnaBoten tcohen, you are reloading... (Reloading takes 5 seconds)
21:20 tcohen !bang
21:19 AnnaBoten tcohen, you missed the duck!
21:19 tcohen !bang
21:10 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #233: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/233/
21:09 wahanui !bang
21:09 AnnaBoten \_o< quack!
21:08 thd Joubu: My general work pattern of doing everything in bursts where I may stay up very late has been broken by the extra work I have now for COVID-19 where I have to show up in person with no symptoms from staying up late which might be mistaken for something else.
21:01 AnnaBoten \_x< lisettelatah: 2 (19.79 seconds)
21:01 lisettelatah !bang
21:01 thd s/to long/too long/
21:01 wahanui oops, slipped over
21:01 AnnaBoten \_o< quack!
21:01 thd Joubu: In the US if you spend to long outside home for rehabilitation, social benefits upon which many elderly people depend are discontinued and require restarting the application process. The application process for anything along with much else in life is broken under the general shutdown of the economy.
21:00 aleisha hello*
21:00 aleisha oh heel
21:00 ashimema have a good one #koha
21:00 ashimema calling it a night too..
20:57 tuxayo o/ aleisha
20:57 AnnaBoten \_x< lisettelatah: 1 (40.46 seconds)
20:57 lisettelatah !bang
20:57 thd Joubu: I have time soon now again.
20:56 thd Joubu: I had been caught helping a friend from 1 January who suddenly had kidney failure from an enlarged prostate. I spent two months renovating his apartment for his safe return home following his successful surgery.
20:56 wahanui *click*
20:56 AnnaBoten \_o< quack!
20:55 thd Joubu: Ernest work with real bug squashing started mid last year and was only interrupted by winter holidays with mummy.
20:53 thd Joubu: I have a script running.
20:53 Joubu will be happy to help and get this done
20:53 Joubu looks like this is an ongoing work for years
20:53 Joubu thd: please tell me if you need help with the wiki migration, I really would like this to be done
20:52 davidnind lisettelatah++
20:52 rangi cya Joubu
20:52 tcohen bye Joubu
20:52 tcohen thd I leave that to you haha
20:52 Joubu bye #koha, see you tomorrow
20:52 lisettelatah collage++
20:52 thd tcohen: You asked about the Developers Handbook. Did you mean https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Developers_Handbook or https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Developer_Handbook ? Do we need the singular forms police? ;)
20:51 tcohen collage++
20:51 ashimema collage++
20:51 AnnaBoten There was no duck! ashimema: -1 (11.32 seconds)
20:51 ashimema !bang
20:51 tuxayo collage++
20:51 AnnaBoten There was no duck! hayley: -1 (4.71 seconds)
20:51 AnnaBoten tuxayo took the lead for the week over tcohen with 1 points.
20:51 AnnaBoten Best time: tcohen with 3.48 seconds
20:51 AnnaBoten [('tuxayo', 1), ('tcohen', 1), ('hayley', 1)]
20:51 hayley !bang
20:51 AnnaBoten \_x< tcohen: 1 (3.48 seconds)
20:51 tcohen !bang
20:51 rangi to add to those in person
20:51 wahanui oops, slipped over
20:51 AnnaBoten \_o< quack!
20:51 tcohen I am, yes
20:51 thd tcohen: Are you still here?
20:51 rangi davidnind: thats a good idea tho, we can ask everyone watching the stream to send a selfie and we can make a collage :)
20:50 rangi davidnind: hehe
20:50 tcohen happy to help any rmaint on my TZ
20:50 hayley hehe
20:50 davidnind will need a very wide angle lens to take the conference group photo..
20:49 tuxayo +1 for trying to publish the recordings licensed as CC BY
20:49 hayley nice!
20:49 cait means i am almost done
20:49 cait ok, np :)
20:48 hayley hey @cait, nah wanted to avoid having four releases this month :)
20:48 cait just for planning
20:48 rangi tuxayo: the live audience here in nz
20:48 cait oh hayley - just rebased our branch - will there be another 18.11?
20:48 hayley we hope they won't be nodding off during the day!
20:48 rangi davidnind: sounds goods
20:48 tuxayo So they can't sleep ^^"
20:48 tuxayo > the plan is to have a camera pointed at the audience too
20:48 davidnind the Koha YouTube channel is available for live streaming as an option, would like to see recordings go into the Internet Archive + be licensed as CC BY
20:48 AnnaBoten \_x< hayley: 1 (8.04 seconds)
20:48 hayley !bang
20:48 AnnaBoten lisettelatah, you missed the duck!
20:48 lisettelatah !bang
20:48 AnnaBoten tcohen, you missed the duck!
20:48 tcohen !bang
20:47 cait sounds great
20:47 wahanui *click*
20:47 AnnaBoten \_o< quack!
20:47 rangi so anyone who is presenting live can see that
20:47 rangi the plan is to have a camera pointed at the audience too
20:47 rangi yep
20:47 cait rangi: if you have us on chat, you could maybe have that on one wall of the conf?
20:46 thd Pre-recording with live questions for those awake enough may be better than more frequent technical glitches such as stream stuttering.
20:46 * cait would love if the chat feature was available again
20:46 lisettelatah Mostly, except I had to work on the circ desk Thursday until 7, so I took a nap in the middle of the day and drove over, but I was a zombie for sure.
20:46 cait tbh... whenever i take time off i turn into one... so
20:46 ashimema kohathon worked really well from what I managed to attend
20:45 * tuxayo needs to vampire also.
20:45 cait lisettelatah: did it work?
20:45 cait tuxayo: talks at the kohathon
20:45 lisettelatah cait: that is what I did for Dublin.
20:45 wahanui Kohathon is so cool, I'll try follow now and catchup on the rest
20:45 tuxayo Oh, Kohathon
20:45 rangi so a mix of live, and prerecorded, with live MC... kinda like a tv channel hehe
20:44 * cait plan is to take the week off and then just be a vampire
20:44 lisettelatah oh that sounds great!
20:44 tuxayo What does this refer to?
20:44 tuxayo > * cait enjoyed the underused features
20:44 rangi because listening at 4am is one thing, presenting at 4am is a whole other deal
20:43 rangi we are going to allow ppl to prerecord their talks too, if they want
20:43 cait and the other things :) but that wasn#t mentioned yet
20:43 * cait enjoyed the underused features
20:43 rangi lisettelatah: excellent thanks, we will definitely be talking to you
20:43 ashimema I can back you up tuxayo ;)
20:42 * ashimema would be happy to join things like that
20:42 ashimema and the live bugfixing
20:42 * ashimema enjoyed the campire :)
20:42 * tuxayo needs to start learning how to Rmaint
20:42 thd tcohen: Do you mean https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Developers_Handbook or https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Developer_Handbook ? Do we need the singular forms police? ;)
20:42 lisettelatah rangi: koha-us is happy to help with online portion/share what we learned from Kohathon, what worked and what didn't for the online portions.
20:41 ashimema thankyou everyone
20:41 AnnaBoten There is already a hunt right now!
20:41 ashimema !start
20:41 ashimema :)
20:41 ashimema #endmeeting
20:41 AnnaBoten \_x< tuxayo: 1 (296679.09 seconds)
20:41 tuxayo !bang
20:41 huginn Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2020/general_irc_meeting_13_may_2020.2020-05-13-20.00.log.html
20:41 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2020/general_irc_meeting_13_may_2020.2020-05-13-20.00.txt
20:41 huginn Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2020/general_irc_meeting_13_may_2020.2020-05-13-20.00.html
20:41 huginn Meeting ended Wed May 13 20:41:22 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
20:41 Joubu #endmeeting
20:41 Joubu ok, 20 UTC then for July 15th
20:41 ashimema thanks everyone.. feel free to stick around and mingle :)
20:40 ashimema right.. I think we can bring this meeting to a close then
20:40 thd Maybe I will stop having to hunt for a new non-closed place to do my laundry by July.
20:40 rangi this time is fine
20:40 Joubu like this one?
20:40 Joubu rangi: let us know the time
20:39 rangi (we should hopefully know what the rules around travel are by then)
20:39 ashimema brill
20:39 Joubu #info Next meeting: 17 June 2020, 15 UTC
20:39 rangi thats when we will be making any more big announcements
20:39 ashimema works for me :)
20:39 rangi can we have july in a good time for nz
20:39 Joubu 15UTC
20:39 rangi fine for june
20:39 Joubu 14, 15?
20:38 ashimema rangi, davidnind ?
20:38 ashimema in theory it would switch to the early slot.. but as we're moving toward kohacon are there any request to stick late from NZ?
20:37 ashimema your call here really Joubu.. as the in coming host
20:37 tuxayo 17th June sounds ok
20:37 ashimema time for next meeting
20:37 AnnaBoten party has neutral karma.
20:37 oleonard !karma party
20:37 tuxayo ^^"
20:36 huginn oleonard: Karma for "party" has been increased 4 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 4.
20:36 oleonard @karma party
20:36 wahanui well, ashimema is literally just writing up the release anouncement ;)
20:36 Joubu yes ashimema
20:36 Joubu not sure it's a good idea tuxayo
20:36 wahanui party has karma of 1
20:36 ashimema karma party
20:36 tuxayo overflow++
20:36 wahanui overflow has neutral karma
20:36 tcohen karma overflow
20:35 tuxayo (should it be in 3 lines and 3 apart messages to for the ++ to be counted?)
20:35 ashimema June 17th sounds reasonable..
20:35 cait :)
20:35 Joubu koha channel reached the daily quota for its karma system
20:35 cait Joubu++
20:35 cait ptfs-e++ biblibre++ bywater++
20:35 tuxayo bywater++
20:35 tuxayo biblibre++
20:35 tuxayo ptfs-e++
20:34 tcohen bywater++ ptfs-e++ biblibre++
20:34 Joubu ptfs-e++ biblibre++ bywater++ # for supporting me! :)
20:34 ashimema :)
20:34 Joubu ashimema: I've opened few bug reports for that already!
20:33 bag Joubu++
20:33 ashimema #topic Set time and date for next meeting
20:33 Joubu tcohen: they say
20:33 tuxayo koha-jenkins not now, we are celebrating!
20:33 ashimema so.. last item for the evening
20:33 tcohen benevolent dictator, Joubu
20:32 * ashimema actually highlighted the developer handbook in his submission to be part of the docs team next cycle tcohen :)
20:32 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D8 build #145: UNSTABLE in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D8/145/
20:32 ashimema shucks :)
20:32 Joubu not yet!
20:32 * Joubu put his dictator hat on his head
20:32 cait let#s work together to make sure Joubu is happy :)
20:32 tcohen thd we need to organize the developer's handbook this cycle
20:31 cait ashimema++ excellent work
20:31 lisettelatah Joubu++
20:31 lisettelatah ashimema++
20:31 davidnind ashimema++
20:31 tuxayo For having done it
20:31 tuxayo ashimema++
20:31 oleonard ashimema++
20:31 tuxayo For taking the RM load
20:31 Joubu community++
20:31 tuxayo Joubu++
20:31 ashimema Thanks everyone.. it's been a pleasure serving the last 12 months.. I look forward to supporting Joubu :)
20:30 tcohen Joubu++
20:30 tcohen ashimema++
20:30 tcohen team++
20:30 tuxayo team++
20:30 cait team++ community++
20:30 ashimema team++
20:30 huginn Yes (18): Joubu, jzairo, davidnind, cait, lisettelatah, georgew, oleonard, ashimema, tuxayo, mtj, kidclamp, henryb, bgkriegel, talljoy, holly, thd, rangi, tcohen
20:30 huginn Voted on "Do we elect the team as proposed on the above linked roles page?" Results are
20:30 ashimema #endvote
20:30 ashimema amazing attendance tonight.. great to see guys.. lets make this an awesome cycle for Joubu
20:29 tuxayo Joubu: The team including you would still be elected right? :P
20:29 mtj #vote yes
20:28 rangi #vote yes
20:28 tcohen :-P
20:28 Joubu (what if I vote No?)
20:28 Joubu #vote Yes
20:28 kidclamp #vote yes
20:28 henryb #vote Yes
20:28 tuxayo #vote Yes
20:28 tcohen #vote Yes
20:28 holly #vote yes
20:28 georgew #vote yes
20:28 jzairo #vote Yes
20:28 davidnind #vote Yes
20:28 bgkriegel #vote Yes
20:28 lisettelatah #vote Yes
20:28 cait #vote yes
20:28 talljoy #vote Yes
20:28 oleonard #vote Yes
20:27 thd #vote Yes
20:27 ashimema #vote Yes
20:27 huginn Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
20:27 huginn Begin voting on: Do we elect the team as proposed on the above linked roles page? Valid vote options are Yes, No, Abstain.
20:27 ashimema #startvote Do we elect the team as proposed on the above linked roles page? Yes, No, Abstain
20:27 ashimema * #startvote Do we elect the team as proposed on the above linked roles page? Yes, No, Abstain
20:27 ashimema #vote Do we elect the team as proposed on the above linked roles page? Yes, No, Abstain
20:25 cait no questions
20:25 ashimema all looks good to me
20:25 ashimema any points to raise/question before I call the vote?
20:25 tuxayo This is great
20:25 tuxayo ^^
20:25 davidnind Nice to see so many put their names down for the documentation team
20:25 tuxayo biblibre++
20:24 ashimema right..
20:24 tcohen paul_p++
20:24 tcohen paul_p++
20:24 cait but also happy for everone else, might be able to get the queue down again :)
20:24 cait very happy to have them back
20:24 Joubu paul_p++ ;)
20:24 cait alex_a++ matts++ jajm++ :)
20:24 Joubu yes, biblibre++, I am very happy to have them all on board!
20:24 tcohen siri++
20:23 cait alexa++
20:23 tcohen alex_a++
20:23 tuxayo :D
20:23 ashimema Henry.. great to see you as a bugwrangler :)
20:23 tcohen jajm++
20:23 tcohen matts++
20:23 tcohen biblibre++
20:23 oleonard #info Owen Leonard, Athens county Public Libraries, Ohio, USA
20:23 cait :)
20:23 ashimema biblibre++
20:23 ashimema Great to see some old names back on the QA team list
20:22 cait :)
20:22 tuxayo Come an board the 20.11 ship! o/ last call !
20:22 ashimema it's grown today.. nice
20:21 Joubu with few new names, that's great
20:21 Joubu This release team is huge!
20:21 ashimema any last minute additions, now is the time to add you names :)
20:20 ashimema #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_20.11 Roles for 20.11
20:20 Joubu #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_20.11
20:20 ashimema #topic Election of 20.11 Release Team
20:20 ashimema shall we move on to the piece everyone is waiting for?
20:20 tuxayo got it ^^
20:19 ashimema sooo...
20:19 ashimema that was also my understanding.. :)
20:19 Joubu tuxayo: test, bug fix, test bug fix
20:19 ashimema #info Maintenance releases are on track for end of the month.
20:19 talljoy on schedule!
20:18 ashimema perfect
20:18 rangi ashimema: i saw joy sent out string freeze email, so they look to be on track
20:18 tuxayo Anything in particular?
20:18 tuxayo > find and fix effort to polish the release
20:18 ashimema any updates from the rmaints?
20:17 ashimema haha.. thanks tcohen.. you found it a little quicker than me
20:17 tuxayo Thanks
20:17 cait heh :)
20:17 ashimema #link https://hebdo.framapad.org/p/9ga9-koha-tech-release-notes Technical Notes
20:17 cait #link https://hebdo.framapad.org/p/9ga9-koha-tech-release-notes Technical release notes
20:17 tuxayo #info https://hebdo.framapad.org/p/9ga9-koha-tech-release-notes
20:17 tuxayo whoops
20:16 tuxayo # info https://hebdo.framapad.org/p/9ga9-koha-tech-release-notes
20:16 ashimema #info Technical release notes are also work in progress.. if you have anything to bring up for them please contribute your idea's
20:16 rangi its day one of level 2 and they have decided to dig up the road outside my house, so if i go offline they dug up the fibre by mistake
20:16 ashimema #info Please help with the find and fix effort to polish the release.. and any help on the release notes would be appreciated too
20:15 tcohen ah
20:15 tuxayo Thanks for dealing with CI hardships
20:15 tuxayo tcohen++
20:15 tuxayo ashimema++
20:15 ashimema ++ on adding SIGs to the calendar
20:14 ashimema #info I will send an email with updated proposed release dates soon
20:14 cait the fuller the calendar the better :)
20:14 tuxayo And not only for making it.
20:14 tuxayo It makes sense to also use the agenda for international events about using Koha.
20:14 ashimema #info We are well and truly into string freeze now.. it was a little late as I had some catching up to do after a weekend of Jenkins challenges.
20:13 Joubu georgew: ping me if you want write access to the Koha agenda
20:13 tuxayo Why not
20:13 tuxayo > koha-us meetings to the Koha agenda
20:13 ashimema #topic Update on releases
20:13 ashimema moving on...
20:13 georgew koha-US would be happy to see more international representation too
20:13 Joubu Should we add the koha-us meetings to the Koha agenda?
20:12 * tuxayo learns about those special interest groups. Interesting
20:12 ashimema the SIG's are good.. though I'd love to see some more international representation ;)
20:12 * ashimema dev's on two machines... D9 and Arch.. arch is way ahead of D10 and works seemlessly with docker so I'm hoping D10 will be fine to
20:11 davidnind thanks koha-US!
20:11 davidnind the special interest groups seem to be going well - it is great they are recorded as well
20:11 tuxayo *as
20:11 tuxayo ashimema: as long a docker works ^^
20:10 * ashimema will be going D10 end of the month.. seemed a little risky to do it just prior to release
20:10 davidnind #info koha-US special interest groups - see http://koha-us.org/special-interest-groups/ for upcoming meetings
20:10 * tcohen is trying to figure why plack doesn't start in D10 ;-)
20:10 ashimema :)
20:10 ashimema Devs should certainly start focusing on using D10 for dev I think
20:10 Joubu #info Devs are encouraged to use D10 for their dev environment
20:09 ashimema Agreed.. it's been one of my focus area's this release and it's certainly improved allot
20:09 * tuxayo notes to always run dev env with Debian 10
20:09 tcohen +1
20:09 Joubu and maybe have it the default for devs
20:08 Joubu About D8 deprecation, we must focus on D10 support then ;)
20:08 ashimema any other anouncements to make?
20:07 ashimema haha
20:07 Joubu breakfast stout then
20:07 georgew It's 5:00 somewhere
20:07 tuxayo To have also the less formal part
20:07 ashimema not sure I'll get away with that.. can imagine the breakfast ptfs-e meeting with a beer in hand
20:07 tuxayo-read-only Nice idea
20:07 tcohen hehehe
20:07 ashimema I love that idea Joubu.. though pub time there will be breakfast time here :(
20:07 Joubu hehe great :)
20:07 rangi thats the plan Joubu :)
20:06 * Joubu wonders if we will make video chat from pubs after the conferences
20:06 ashimema #link https://wiki.debian.org/LTS Debian LTS Details
20:06 davidnind They seem to have cut most of their international flights, how are your yachting skills?
20:06 ashimema #info The next scheduled releases of Koha are likely to be the last to officially support Debian 8 (Jessie). This is inline with the End Of Life upstream
20:05 davidnind :-(
20:05 tcohen Air New Zealand just announced they won't fly from Argentina for a while, there go my hopes
20:04 ashimema thanks for the agenda link Joubu.. I always forget that
20:04 davidnind #info Kohacon2020 will be a hybrid online and in-person event - see https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2020-May/054572.html
20:04 huginn Current chairs: Joubu ashimema cait
20:04 ashimema #chair cait
20:04 huginn Current chairs: Joubu ashimema
20:04 ashimema #chair Joubu
20:03 bag #info Brendan Gallagher, ByWater
20:03 Joubu #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_13_May_2020
20:03 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany
20:03 * kidclamp outside with kid, so may get distracted
20:03 ashimema #topic Announcements
20:02 ashimema wow.. full house tonight
20:02 tuxayo #info tuxayo/Victor Grousset, France
20:02 henryb #info Henry Bolshaw, House of Lords Library, UK
20:02 kidclamp #info Nick Clemens, bywater
20:02 mtj #info Mason James, NZ
20:01 tcohen #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions
20:01 davidnind #info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand
20:01 bgkriegel #info Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel
20:01 talljoy #info Joy Nelson Bywater
20:01 jzairo #info Jessica Zairo, ByWater Solutions
20:01 georgew #info George Williams, Northeast Kansas Library System
20:01 wahanui qa_team is cait Joubu marcelr kohaputti josef_moravec tcohen kidclamp khall
20:01 Joubu qa_team?
20:01 Joubu #info Jonathan Druart
20:01 wahanui qa team are the real gatekeepers, send cookies their way
20:01 ashimema qa team?
20:00 lisettelatah #info Lisette Scheer, Latah County Library District/Valnet/Koha-US
20:00 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City
20:00 wahanui hmmm... rmaints is talljoy, lukeG, hayley
20:00 ashimema rmaints?
20:00 rangi #info Chris Cormack, Catalyst IT, NZ
20:00 ashimema #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS-Europe
20:00 ashimema please use "#info" in front of your introduction to have it show up in the automatic minutes
20:00 ashimema #topic Introductions
20:00 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_13_may_2020'
20:00 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
20:00 huginn Meeting started Wed May 13 20:00:15 2020 UTC. The chair is ashimema. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
20:00 ashimema #startmeeting General IRC meeting 13 May 2020
19:59 lisettelatah I am
19:59 wahanui i heard meeting was over :)
19:59 ashimema meeting?
19:59 ashimema anyone around for the meeting
19:51 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D9 build #144: UNSTABLE in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D9/144/
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18:52 tuxayo o/
18:49 ashimema evenin'
18:46 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #316: SUCCESS in 56 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/316/
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17:50 wahanui Congratulations!
17:50 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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16:56 wahanui Congratulations!
16:56 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
16:14 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #289: FIXED in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/289/
16:14 wahanui Congratulations!
16:14 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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16:02 wahanui Congratulations!
16:02 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
16:00 reiveune bye
15:54 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23794: (RM follow-up) Remove warnings from updatedatabase <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7e720e7e820408e7e2b7b03f65cbdd1435a2d031>
15:37 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #866: FIXED in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/866/
15:37 wahanui Congratulations!
15:37 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
15:15 tuxayo Joubu: this one? https://picat.drycat.fr/OnNzmazy.png
15:12 Joubu tuxayo: about 24469 - the important bit is to use the "Add" link, not the "Save" button
15:07 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23794: (follow-up) Remove extra carriage return <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8b2859011326b8c5ee9d2a67890b8e753b1fbc37>
15:07 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24161: (follow-up) Fix failing test (when running slow) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=233974a2514ed7891d889624a86312e29e8f43e5>
14:13 ashimema Thanks
14:11 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24161 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to master , Late orders improvements - keeping track of claims
14:11 Joubu ashimema: and on bug 24161, no idea what I did in the precedent patch, it was wrong (sorry!)
14:02 Joubu ashimema: follow-up on 23794
13:27 davidnind :)
13:24 magnuse davidnind++
13:02 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #231: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/231/
13:01 ashimema thanks davidnind
12:53 davidnind (Forgot to send a tweet for meetings on this week - doing now)
12:52 davidnind cait1: 13 May 2020, 20:00 UTC - https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Koha+General+IRC+Meeting&iso=20200513T2000
12:50 davidnind In about 7 hours!
12:50 ashimema 20 UTC
12:49 cait1 oh when is the meeting? forgot to add it to the calendar
12:49 ashimema thanks
12:48 davidnind I'll add!
12:48 ashimema yes
12:48 davidnind Should the 20.11 Release Team election be on the General IRC meeting agenda?
12:18 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24279 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Claims Returned does not work when set from moredetail.pl or additem.pl
12:18 Joubu khall_: Hi Kyle, could you answer on bug 24279#c15?
12:05 magnuse Joubu++
12:05 magnuse Joubu: ah, cool, i'll check if it works. thanks!
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11:32 Joubu else
11:32 Joubu alse
11:32 Joubu so in my understanding they don't need anything
11:32 Joubu * can submit a translation
11:32 Joubu (the same first 2 then a user that is not logged in)
11:32 Joubu * can access a project
11:31 Joubu * can make a suggestion for a translation
11:31 Joubu so if one creates an account, they will be allowed (default) to:
11:31 Joubu " The user “nobody†refers to any user that is not logged in (an anonymous, unidentified user). The user “default†refers to the rights that all logged in users will have by default, unless other specific rights were assigned to them. "
11:31 Joubu magnuse: there is no permission apparently, only "admin". But:
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11:29 Joubu magnuse: looks like I am admin
11:27 magnuse how does permissions in pootle work now? i can't seem to find a place to give people access to edit norwegian. maybe i lost my permissions?
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11:15 magnuse kia ora tcohen
11:14 tcohen morning
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10:13 cait1 because i want to do more code writing... actually... but well :)
10:13 cait1 i also use it as a bit of motivation
10:13 cait1 not sure the total
10:13 cait1 hm the movement on mine seems correct
10:10 ashimema I indeed have always found those numbers a bit of a mystery
10:09 ashimema interesting Joubu
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09:42 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25389: Correct original DB update for bug 22563 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ed564837a64a45bfd1551ab54417daf0a3b9c559>
09:42 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25389: Correct stray cases of LOST_RETURNED <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=483e40d2236bbb584022846bd1c85d62f149f096>
09:42 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25389: Catch LOST_RETURNED in DB update 19.12.00.021 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bd6ccad5d9b78719241d06a96a7ac0b77cabcef1>
09:42 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25389: Catch errant cases of LOST_RETURNED <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c5f34fe3ada46e29c9b1ac99b10186fab6d9670f>
09:42 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25389: DBRev 19.12.00.089 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4429b42036061d6cf5662f12e390c521eef65771>
09:42 Joubu they count merge commit (Jared did a lot) and they are not using the official git repo (no idea which ones actually). I never managed to get the same numbers than those.
09:41 Joubu those numbers are wrong anyway ;)
09:39 ashimema nearly 100 more to catch kidclamp though
09:38 ashimema 4 more commits and I'll be past jcamins in the git leaderboard :)
09:31 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24368: Remove Koha::Libraries->pickup_locations <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0b42afc9a377cf13109a24b57eb777f3d3d08cdf>
09:31 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24368: Comprehensive tests for Koha::Template::Plugin::Branches::pickup_locations <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b2786e56b91d825d06b6e3e6eb5930a72b94ee92>
09:28 ashimema pleasure.. good to have you aboard :)
09:27 TimothyAlexis Thank you for the help ashimema, Joubu and oleonard.
09:26 * ashimema will save himself for the QA step ;)
09:26 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded.
09:26 ashimema @later tell oleonard TimothyAlexis might appreciate your testing of bug 25477.. it looks right up your street ;)
09:25 huginn Bug 25477: normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , The responsive design in opac-main.tt should be correct
09:25 TimothyAlexis Thank you ashimema, then https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25477 is ready for testing.
09:20 ashimema but I'm not sure what the edit would be.. oleonard is closer to that area than I am.. I tend to feel my way a bit in that area
09:19 ashimema yes.. you certainly need to edit opac.scss rather than opac.css..
09:19 ashimema erm..
09:19 ashimema I'll QA that one myself now
09:18 TimothyAlexis ashimema: Do we add padding: 0 to opac.scss instead of removing padding-left:40px;padding-right:40px from opac.css ?
09:18 ashimema thanks Joubu.. I was just reading the bug mails for clues to the pickup_locations failures
09:02 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #781: STILL UNSTABLE in 52 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/781/
08:48 TimothyAlexis Oh I found it now
08:48 TimothyAlexis https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=104828&action=edit
08:47 TimothyAlexis Joubu: This specific attachment is a screenshot (png-file)
08:47 Joubu "edit" => "details" link right after the patch
08:46 Joubu edit, edit detail, tick "obsolete", save
08:46 Joubu TimothyAlexis: obsolete it
08:46 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24368 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Koha::Libraries->pickup_locations needs refactoring/ratifying
08:46 Joubu ashimema: this failing test will be fixed by bug 24368
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08:45 TimothyAlexis Is it possible to delete or edit attachments in Bugzilla?
08:44 TimothyAlexis Hey, it seems that it does actually look good when I actually do set the layout to span8+span4 like I mentioned (I still had it at span9+span3).
08:36 ashimema but you only submit the .scss changes.. I build the .css upon push
08:36 ashimema if you're wanting to update css.. you need to change it in the .scss file then build the .css from it..
08:36 ashimema so..
08:35 ashimema hope that helps TimothyAlexis
08:35 ashimema fairly standard practice for cache management of these sorts of files these days
08:35 ashimema basically.. we set the headers on those files to cache forever and hard flush the cache as required by incrementing the version in the filename
08:35 ashimema but we add a _version into the templates to allow forever caching in the browser to work..
08:34 ashimema that's handled with apache re-writes.. they all point to opac.css
08:34 ashimema as for the _version
08:34 ashimema that's how we generate the minified css from the scss
08:33 ashimema https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Working_with_SCSS_in_the_OPAC_and_staff_client
08:30 TimothyAlexis I've made corrections in opac-main.tt but before I submit a proposed patch I'm wondering how the opac-tmpl/bootstrap/css/opac_19.0504000.css is generated.
08:30 ashimema fire away
08:29 huginn Bug 25477: normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , The responsive design in opac-main.tt should be correct
08:29 TimothyAlexis ashimema, Joubu and oleonard this is about the layout in opac-main.tt that I mentioned: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25477
08:09 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24161: Fix failing test (when running slow) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=33a44e438376a567966e80100c1ef4a3c06b215d>
08:06 ashimema Thanks Joubu
08:00 Joubu test is failing on https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/lastCompletedBuild/consoleFull (#1328)
07:59 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24161 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to master , Late orders improvements - keeping track of claims
07:59 Joubu ashimema: follow-up attached on bug 24161
06:48 wahanui what's up, alex_a
06:48 alex_a Bonjour
06:28 reiveune hello