Time  Nick           Message
21:13 tuxayo         cait++
20:14 cait           23849
20:14 cait           oh hea
20:14 cait           hm?
20:14 tuxayo         Thanks I'll try to find it
20:14 tuxayo         > i tihnk there is a bug somewhere
20:14 tuxayo         cait
20:08 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25380 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , impossible update to subversion > .04 in koha 19.05 debian installation
20:08 cait           can someone help with a packages question? bug 25380
20:08 cait           i tihnk there is a bug somewhere
20:08 cait           tuxayo - we should update the list of prefs we send to hea
19:08 tuxayo         https://hea.koha-community.org/systempreferences
19:08 tuxayo         IIUC, we have no way of knowing ES adoption in Hea right?
16:19 tuxayo         TimothyAlexis were you able to do what you wanted to do by using koha-testing-docker?
16:15 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22520 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Be Elastic compliant 7.x and 8.x (_doc)
16:15 tuxayo         There doesn't seem to be anything related to ES 7 other than bug 22520
16:14 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20196 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, RESOLVED FIXED, [Omnibus] Prepare Koha to ElasticSearch6 - ES6
16:14 tuxayo         It's the same idea as bug 20196
16:14 tuxayo         [Omnibus] Prepare Koha to ElasticSearch 7 - ES7
16:14 tuxayo         Should the following bug be open?
16:14 caroline       irc.koha-community.org/koha/2020-04-09#i_2236096
16:10 caroline       ashimema[m]: can you run the script to generate meeting minutes for the last docs meeting? It happened on april 9 and the minutes arent in the wiki
15:55 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22248 normal, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Needs Signoff , Error when incrementing Mana comment
15:55 tuxayo         oleonard: can you still reproduce Bug 22248 ?
15:08 tuxayo         Is  koha-remove expected to work in koha-testing-docker?
14:59 reiveune       bye
14:32 huginn         Joubu: The operation succeeded.
14:32 Joubu          @later tell TimothyAlexis_ there is an "edit" button at the top of https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker/-/merge_requests/117
14:00 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 17355: Fix failing tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8d97c44b8e733235e6fc70c461c4c9ff943f1368>
14:00 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 18308: (RM follow-up) Clarify intent of tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4071924f7f9438c344e878a86d29792f83c06704>
13:43 tuxayo         Ok, let's continue digging ^^
13:42 tcohen         I'm adding a blocker... once I figure the regression tests LOL
13:33 Joubu          easy, it should take a couple of hours
13:33 Joubu          tuxayo: sign all the things off
13:32 tuxayo         ? (likely English comprehension issue)
13:32 ashimema[m]    tuxayo is on a role
13:31 tuxayo         Is there anything else more useful to do now? (after feature freeze) Than continuing to sign off lower severity bugs.
13:31 tuxayo         No more patches to sign off that are blocker or critical or major. (except 1 that is for the next release)
13:31 tuxayo         No more patches to sign off that are rel_20_05_candidate
13:21 huginn         tcohen: I suck
13:21 tcohen         @magnuse glad to hear
13:21 magnuse        tcohen: so it was, i was using position instead of column...
13:21 tuxayo         oleonard: I'm noting it for after the release. Not sure I will be able to troubleshoot the issues. But I will try ^^
13:19 Joubu          you need to ask for tcohen to merge it now ;)
13:19 Joubu          Awesome TimothyAlexis_, thanks!
13:17 TimothyAlexis_ Joubu Thank you.
13:17 oleonard       Yes
13:16 tuxayo         oleonard: It will be for the next cycle right? As it's an enhancement.
13:13 TimothyAlexis_ --amend...
13:13 Joubu          TimothyAlexis_: git push with -f to replace the remote branch
13:13 TimothyAlexis_ Joubu: I did git commit -amend and change the commit message.
13:11 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24223 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Convert OpacNav system preference to news block
13:11 oleonard       I could use help with a couple of issues with Bug 24223 if anyone has time to look
13:08 huginn         tcohen: I've exhausted my database of quotes
13:08 tcohen         @magnuse it might be a problem with the configuration syntax
13:08 cait1          item form
13:08 cait1          my tem form is missing... and it leads to function BindPluginEvents(data) {
13:07 magnuse        tcohen: yes, very weird
13:07 cait1          someone seen this erro on orderreceive.pl ? TypeError: window[events[i]] is not a function
13:07 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17355 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to master , Authorised value categories cannot be deleted
13:07 magnuse        bug 17355
13:05 Joubu          the magic is in the #
13:04 Joubu          TimothyAlexis_: if you start the commit message with "Issue #XXX" the merge request will be linked automatically with the issue you are referring to
13:01 tcohen         we use it very oftern
13:01 wahanui        i already had it that way, huginn.
13:01 huginn         tcohen: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
13:01 tcohen         @magnuse that sounds weird
13:00 ashimema[m]    17355
12:51 magnuse        trying to use koha-plugin-csv2marc, but every subfield i define gets the value from the first column? weird...
12:25 TimothyAlexis_ Thank you Joubu.
12:15 Joubu          ashimema[m]: you forgot the follow-up on 17355
12:10 Joubu          then go to https://gitlab.com/YOUR_ACCOUNT/koha-testing-docker and you will see a "create a pull request" button
12:09 Joubu          git push my_repo your_local_branch_name:issue_XXX (XXX the issue number)
12:09 tcohen         morning
12:09 Joubu          git fetch my_repo
12:09 tuxayo         ^^
12:09 Joubu          you should have `git remote add my_repo https://gitlab.com/YOUR_ACCOUNT/koha-testing-docker.git`
12:08 Joubu          did you push a remote branch with your change?
12:06 TimothyAlexis_ Joubo: Merge requests are e-mailed ?
11:57 TimothyAlexis_ Thank you Joubu.
11:54 cait1          :)
11:53 TimothyAlexis_ tuxayo or even better, you're Human. Seems to be one of the best wins in this reality.
11:52 TimothyAlexis_ tuxayo You're fine :)
11:47 tuxayo         Ok, sorry for the confusion.
11:47 Joubu          no
11:46 tuxayo         Aren't README correction for koha-sandboxes-docker ?
11:46 tuxayo         > I made corrections in README.md
11:46 Joubu          You should create the gitlab account, clone the original repo, push the branch to your repo, then gitlab will ask you if you want to create the pull request from this branch
11:45 TimothyAlexis_ tuxayo: Yes and it is for koha-testing-docker
11:45 Joubu          yes
11:45 TimothyAlexis_ Joubu do I need to create a GitLab account?
11:45 tuxayo         > Joubu I've had lunch now and I made corrections in README.md
11:45 tuxayo         TimothyAlexis_: I was refering to this:
11:45 Joubu          TimothyAlexis_: commit with "Issue #XXX - commit title", then create the merge request
11:42 TimothyAlexis_ So, I've cloned koha-testing-docker and I've installed docker-ce and docker-compose. I also added my user to the docker group.
11:37 TimothyAlexis_ And related to this issue: https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker/-/issues/166
11:35 TimothyAlexis_ https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker/
11:35 tuxayo         *edited
11:35 tuxayo         And redited the README?
11:35 tuxayo         TimothyAlexis_: You mean you forked this? https://github.com/bywatersolutions/koha-sandboxes-docker
11:30 cait1          just trying to catch them all
11:29 cait1          ah, sorry again :)
11:27 magnuse        cait1: yeah, you reminded me on the bug ;-)
11:23 cait1          probably we are missing the older ones
11:23 cait1          oh, it's already there!
11:23 cait1          https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Plugin_Hooks magnuse pretty please?
11:22 TimothyAlexis  Joubu I've had lunch now and I made corrections in README.md
11:22 cait1          hm please add this to the wiki :)
11:10 huginn         Bug 22706: new feature, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to master , Add plugin hooks to allow custom password strength checking modules
11:10 magnuse        ashimema[m]: see https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22706#c5 for history
10:58 ashimema[m]    hmm, ok
10:58 magnuse        no, i think i had it working, then qa found that the order things were done broke something else, the plugin code got moved and i did not test properly
10:57 ashimema[m]    I see
10:57 ashimema[m]    I wondered if it was deliberate
10:57 magnuse        i have not had the tuits to look properly at it, just figure out a workaruond
10:57 koha-jenkins   Project Koha_Master_D8 build #852: STILL FAILING in 7 min 50 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/852/
10:57 ashimema[m]    the password would get passed, but the borrowernumber would be uninitialised
10:56 ashimema[m]    borrowernumber being passed prior to it existing
10:56 ashimema[m]    indeed
10:56 magnuse        i think that is how it works now
10:55 magnuse        if a new user is added from scratch, the password does not get passed to the plugin
10:54 magnuse        yeah, there is something wrong there, where maybe the borrowernumber is used before it is created or something?
10:50 ashimema[m]    just working on some failing tests and the code looked weird.
10:50 ashimema[m]    to works out if it's a new user that is..
10:50 kidclamp       tuxayo: either reset mappings in staff interface, or pass -r to rebuild_elasticsearch
10:50 ashimema[m]    do you bind on there not being a borrowernumber in the check_password part of the patron db plugin you have?
10:49 magnuse        ashimema[m]: yup
10:49 koha-jenkins   Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1309: STILL UNSTABLE in 52 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1309/
10:49 magnuse        yup
10:47 ashimema[m]    magnuse around?
10:47 koha-jenkins   Project Koha_Master_D10 build #217: FAILURE in 1 min 45 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/217/
10:47 tuxayo         kidclamp: what does «Refresh index settings» means?
10:45 koha-jenkins   Project Koha_Master_U18 build #769: ABORTED in 15 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/769/
10:44 tuxayo         o/
10:44 oleonard       Hi all
10:34 tuxayo         Thanks, I'll try this. I know almost nothing about authorities so I might as well stick to the test plan to avoid adding confusion.
10:33 kidclamp       yes
10:32 tuxayo         Is this ↑ the way suggested in the test plan?
10:32 kidclamp       then you can edit headings in catalog without being forced to link
10:31 kidclamp       requires you to set: BiblioAddsAuthorities  to Allow
10:31 kidclamp       i.e. asking Koha to find the link, rather than you manually linking
10:30 kidclamp       or CatalogModuleRelink
10:30 kidclamp       misc/link_bibs_to_authorities.pl
10:29 koha-jenkins   Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #274: STILL UNSTABLE in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/274/
10:29 tuxayo         kidclamp: what is the other way than linking in cataloguing?
10:26 kidclamp       otherwise it will already be linked :-)
10:25 kidclamp       if you link it in  cataloging make sure you are set to Relink in the sysprefs
10:24 tuxayo         *forgot to
10:24 tuxayo         woops, for got enable ES and index. starting over ^^
10:20 tuxayo         open the tag editor to replace the auth by one I choose related to the test plan.
10:20 tuxayo         kidclamp: for example I could search for a record; edit it; go to the 650;
10:17 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 24163: Allow to define CSV profile for late orders export <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3cf6d99948e81a5037bd956a1823e7485a65bd91>
10:17 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 24163: Add the csv into the DB - as an example <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=af4d8a5751ed024bdf0de023394b028175744475>
10:17 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 24162: Add quantity column to the late orders page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dccf4518d46e94970b1b39082d8ec1e326de35ff>
10:17 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 15727: Add MARC21 385 - Audience to detail pages <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3ebfa1a74a1f2265f6af8121dc5c9d36cb95ea68>
10:16 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 24163: (QA follow-up) Fix wordings <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6a5cdfa37fbd5c66fdd8a33f91c843278fb2a0c8>
10:16 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 24163: Add the new CSV profile to other installer files <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2042cb65310072a5c00205fe1d632deac00e639e>
10:16 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 24163: UTF-8 encode the output <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a02f0b077752d0a686afae5aa7428c3fab1c4cd2>
10:16 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 24162: Add missing filter <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=563d316bba4deda338aff3e0f20ee46622083b9c>
10:16 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 24162: Add quantity column to the columns settings config <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5eb07b28eb8db9b2e3a72b13b740a0a003eb1d84>
10:16 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 24163: DBRev 19.12.00.086 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cdf786b0aa0dc1d9fed489335fcfb0bf2cf9ea43>
10:13 kidclamp       or a 100 if a personal name, etc
10:12 kidclamp       add a 650 in the record that is controlled by an authority in your system
10:09 tuxayo         It about authorities.
10:09 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25273 major, P5 - low, ---, nick, Needs Signoff , Elasticsearch Authority matching is returning too many results
10:09 tuxayo         question about bug 25273 What does "placing a heading for a term in a record" means?
10:07 cait1          incoming... :)
10:07 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 7947: Update MARC21 440/490 mapping and visibility in de-DE installer <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=13773753448f3cad6922e868ffca49dd4991474d>
10:07 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 7947: Update MARC21 440/490 mapping and visibility in uk-UA installer <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9569c5e31f9df0bac0c8989f7dafd0b0d8088e4e>
10:07 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 7947: Update MARC21 440/490 mapping and visibility in ru-RU installer <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f298b30fe3a7cb8f64cecb6d20e2cb157defd537>
10:07 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 7947: Update MARC21 440/490 mapping and visibility in nb-NO installer <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f06bd7be16596a4fb189f60137c86d727e279336>
10:07 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 7947: Update MARC21 440/490 mapping and visibility in en installer <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=05b21df1db4726e3f94252bbb032a984607a3991>
10:07 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 7947: Update MARC21 440/490 mapping and visibility in fr-FR installer <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7a722e5970b6a3a7f268086a6d7fee30466fb7d7>
10:07 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 7947: Update MARC21 440/490 mapping and visibility in pl-PL installer <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fee4fe4f88a23a4fa109b4ccc829e03773cef43b>
10:07 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 7947: Update MARC21 440/490 mapping and visibility in it-IT installer <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2b72cd6b12f01d574462512f68a8f8035ad0c6bb>
10:07 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 22335: Fix comment on suggestions.STATUS in kohastructure.sql <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=031e53958a400d491a502a1c32bf89d3bcfeb0dd>
10:07 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 18670: Remove RewriteLog and RewriteLogLevel from sample config files <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=21d0d69b4fc126c8c2242c57950b8cf1d45bf482>
10:07 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 7947: (follow-up) fix 490 subfield visibility (EN) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=09ccb2e96844ddfcbbe4d3007a71ed614fe371d3>
10:07 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 7947: (follow-up) fix 490 subfield visibility (DE) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2cbe7bc17a80760d4ed849d95b1de02ce8f1a402>
10:06 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 7947: (follow-up) fix 490 subfield visibility (IT) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0a8775cfabd674207112f0c205dc1bd2578040e1>
10:06 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 24769: (bug 14711 follow-up) Fix typo in parameter name for AddReserve <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=05b39b50e0d2a2776b38c2ef17dc78ffb8cfc573>
10:06 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 24769: (bug 14711 follow-up 2) Fix typo in parameter name for AddReserve <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6ec2d13b9da8ca42a2553ca4e6b781d807678240>
10:06 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 23185: Make Koha::Objects->update loop on the object set if needed <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6235d0cfa16e5278a32ba6a4814f67ee4ad575b1>
10:06 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 23185: (QA follow-up) Semantics, split fields and options <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=633befb5f0e23306586aedf3219fefab5fa719f0>
10:06 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 23185: (QA follow-up) Add POD for Koha::Objects->update <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fe2ac51b2732befe9e4f9b8d2c85d6d94de525a3>
10:06 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 24769: Regression tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=48d887c2363b7611036cf336b3abf83aea3381fe>
10:06 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 23185: (RM follow-up) Minor POD wording update <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8457804bcf6b6b51703a2fa1143d0dfd539e4e4b>
09:57 Joubu          not sure we need more patches :D
09:56 Joubu          you should not have pushed both
09:56 koha-jenkins   Project Koha_Master_D8 build #851: STILL FAILING in 3 min 14 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/851/
09:56 Joubu          ly
09:56 Joubu          ashimema[m]: Martin, we fixed the same thing but different
09:53 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 18308: fix failing tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cd141a74458f739ce74e627376b97ea72df0c0c6>
09:53 huginn         News from kohagit: Bug 18308: (RM follow-up) Fix failing tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0575bc22d14b7a14ba38df51432114f53230bd2f>
09:41 TimothyAlexis  After lunch
09:40 Joubu          I can guide you if needed
09:40 Joubu          it will help others :)
09:40 Joubu          TimothyAlexis: if you want to something fun, you can create a pull request for that issue: https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker/-/issues/166
09:39 TimothyAlexis  Thank you Joubu, you have once again been there to help.
09:31 Joubu          then run the ku alias as your usual user
09:31 Joubu          TimothyAlexis: sudo usermod -aG docker ${USER}
09:31 TimothyAlexis  Because the bash_aliases are defined in ~/.bashrc
09:30 TimothyAlexis  If I run "sudo ku" I get "sudo: ku: command not found"
09:30 TimothyAlexis  Joubu if I run it as myself I get this error "ERROR: Couldn't connect to Docker daemon at http+docker://localhost - is it running?"
09:30 Joubu          no you don't need to run it as root
09:30 Joubu          TimothyAlexis: define KOHA_TESTING_DOCKER_HOME in .bashrc, then source it (or open a new terminal)
09:29 TimothyAlexis  Joubu I need to run the ku alias as root
09:29 Joubu          no root needed
09:29 cait1          TimothyAlexis: that was me on the bug, if you were wondering
09:28 * cait1        waves
09:28 TimothyAlexis  Joubu so I have defined things in .bashrc but need to run this with root, do you know where I can set these things globally?
09:27 wahanui        Joubu: I forgot that
09:27 Joubu          wahanui: forget that
09:27 Joubu          README.md:export KOHA_TESTING_DOCKER_HOME=/path/to/your/koha-testing-docker/clone
09:27 Joubu          :q
09:27 Joubu          did you define KOHA_TESTING_DOCKER_HOME?
09:27 wahanui        that is what blou added in his patch
09:27 Joubu          that?
09:26 Joubu          TimothyAlexis:   1 alias ku='cd "${KOHA_TESTING_DOCKER_HOME}"; docker-compose -f docker-compose.yml -p koha up --force-recreate'
09:20 TimothyAlexis  "ERROR: for koha_koha_1  Cannot create container for service koha: create .: volume name is too short, names should be at least two alphanumeric characters"
09:20 TimothyAlexis  I get this error when I'm trying to start koha-testing-docker using the ku alias.
08:49 nlegrand       hey cait1 !
08:46 Joubu          ashimema[m]: follow-up for failing tests on 17355 and 18308
08:46 Joubu          it should be easier to install and to understand how it works
08:45 Joubu          ;)
08:45 Joubu          yes, give it a try and let us know if you face any issues ;
08:45 TimothyAlexis  Now I will install koha-testing-docker
08:45 TimothyAlexis  so as things progressed I eventually installed the system locally
08:45 TimothyAlexis  I wanted to try a sandbox and they were down
08:44 TimothyAlexis  Joubu well..
08:43 Joubu          TimothyAlexis: why did you read about koha-sandboxes-docker? Maybe we should add an additional note about it to avoid the confusion
08:42 TimothyAlexis  Joubu yeah I noticed, I have purged all the stuff that was installed with it with help from my very knowledgeable colleague
08:42 Joubu          TimothyAlexis: yes, definitely, most of the devs moved to koha-testing-docker
08:42 Joubu          the sandbox system will generate you such (fancy) interface http://sb1.sandboxes.bywatersolutions.com
08:42 TimothyAlexis  Joubu do you recommend it over Kohadevbox?
08:42 tuxayo         +1
08:41 Joubu          TimothyAlexis: for development purpose you should use koha-testing-docker directly, you will remove some unecessary layers of complexity
08:40 TimothyAlexis  It creates instances of that.
08:36 tuxayo         https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker
08:36 tuxayo         TimothyAlexis: this:
08:36 tuxayo         Hoooo, indeed, it's not koha-testing-docker
08:36 tuxayo         TimothyAlexis: is it an alternative to running ku/ku-md10 and the variants ?
08:36 Joubu          Why are you using koha-sandboxes-docker?
08:35 TimothyAlexis  tuxayo to run run setup-sandbox-server.sh all over again...
08:34 tuxayo         TimothyAlexis: what do you mean by "set it all up again"?
08:08 Joubu          did that answer the different questions? Should I let that on the bug if that was not obvious yet?
08:07 Joubu          Why I did not write my own broker? Because I am lazy
08:07 Joubu          why RabbitMQ? Because it's the most flexible, reliable and known. Others exist
08:07 Joubu          then why a message broker? Because we need it async, and flexible (you don't want a big cronjob every X minutes that will consume all the pending tasks)
08:06 TimothyAlexis  Hello, I have tried koha-sandboxes-docker locally and after restarting the computer it seems that I have to set it all up again. Is there a simpler way?
08:06 Joubu          that are use case examples for the producer/consumer architecture
08:05 Joubu          background jobs (from tools basically), task scheduler, then everything that need to be done async could fit here (reindex, etc.)
08:04 ashimema[m]    Breakfast.. bbiab
08:03 ashimema[m]    It's the use cases I don't understand
08:03 Joubu          please read the commit msg of the first patch
08:03 ashimema[m]    The code looks fine to me
08:03 ashimema[m]    Could we not let my Cron based thing in and convert it to use whatever backend later once it's surfaces.. I'm happy to help work through it with you next cycle.. I just haven't had enough time this cycle to get to grips with the use cases..
08:03 Joubu          please read t
08:03 Joubu          sorry to insist, but the use cases of what?
08:02 ashimema[m]    Hugs
08:02 ashimema[m]    Jumping on RabbitMQ or any other message broker' based system feels like a massive task to understand the code especially when the use cases aren't entirely clear.
08:01 Joubu          do it! :)
08:01 ashimema[m]    With very minimal code
08:01 ashimema[m]    Which in reality is a simple enough thing to fix
08:01 ashimema[m]    I suppose I just don't want another cycle where my clients can't install the recalls plugin because we don't have a way to schedule tasks
07:59 ashimema[m]    It's the 'why we need a message broker' bit I'm least familiar with really..
07:58 cait1          hi nlegrand :)
07:55 nlegrand       a gut yor #koha
07:55 Joubu          ashimema[m]: I am not asking to require RabbitMQ. It's the most flexible of the message-broker server, there are others, lighter, but I have not tried them
07:52 ashimema[m]    OK.. I'll take another look
07:50 Joubu          but I need feedback for that
07:50 Joubu          I can modify the implementation for the 5th times if needed
07:50 Joubu          I tried to follow standards/state of the art in that area
07:49 Joubu          this is one of the use cases
07:49 * ashimema[m]  runs off for breakfast.. but will watch the chat
07:48 ashimema[m]    I find it hard to judge whether it's good or not if I can't see the use cases to test it against ;)
07:48 Joubu          + load balancing
07:48 Joubu          say you have 5 Koha installs on the same server, RabbitMQ can deal with: "worker for instance xxx will process job for 'modification item' now"
07:48 ashimema[m]    I've lost the use cases
07:48 ashimema[m]    my point is I don't wany yet another huge dependancy if actually all we need is one task executing once every few hours
07:47 ashimema[m]    but what flexability..
07:47 ashimema[m]    this isn't to pick holes.. just trying to understand
07:47 Joubu          flexibility?
07:47 ashimema[m]    I've lost the reasoning behind why we need one at all?
07:47 ashimema[m]    ok.. to 'Why do we need a massaging server' ?
07:46 Joubu          RabbitMQ is highly configurable, and it is what sysop need to deal with background jobs/tasks scheduler, etc.
07:46 ashimema[m]    what's the minimum server requirements to run RabbitMQ, ElasticSearch, MySQL et al...
07:46 Joubu          yes, I could have a messaging server, but prefered to reuse something that existed
07:46 ashimema[m]    how does it play in multi-tenant installations..
07:46 ashimema[m]    it's another big dependancy to manage
07:45 Joubu          why not?
07:45 ashimema[m]    what are we trying to resolve by adding RebbitMQ
07:45 Joubu          why what?
07:45 ashimema[m]    the thing I am least clear of is the 'why'..
07:44 ashimema[m]    What are the use cases you are catering for with bug 22417 Joubu ?
07:43 cait1          i think it just means slow = not for this release
07:43 huginn         Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22417 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Delegate background jobs execution
07:43 cait1          bug 22417
07:43 cait1          the authorised value needs to be used in the framework - linked to 041$a - did you do that step?
07:42 cait1          can i catch you quickly abotu my xslt bug?
07:42 cait1          Joubu: morning :)
07:41 Joubu          dcook, khall, tcohen: I'd like to know why you think the task queue (22417) is not something we are going to get "any time soon". It's high on my priority list and there are patches. I provided several implementation of it following the different (slow) feedbacks I got. What next? What is missing?
06:56 alex_a         Bonjour
06:38 * magnuse      waves
06:34 reiveune       hello
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