Time Nick Message
20:14 * cait waves
19:16 oleonard Thanks lukeG1 !
18:25 oleonard Never seen that before
18:25 oleonard Hey y'all what is this about? {UNKNOWN}: Can't open /var/log/koha/kohadev/opac-error.log (Permission denied) at /usr/share/perl5/Log/Log4perl/Appender/File.pm line 143. at /kohadevbox/koha/Koha/Patron.pm line 345
17:58 philor_ did JSON.stringify already do what encodeURIComponent does and encodeURI does not?
17:57 philor_ hmm, why aren't you broken http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/tools/quotes-upload.tt;h=dc5da4b0f241a28136542c31d473875b045456b1;hb=HEAD#l347 ?
17:33 huginn caroline: Error: Failed to load Wunderground API. Check the logs for more information.
17:33 caroline @wunder montreal
17:08 tcohen back from power outage!
14:59 reiveune bye
14:55 cait1 rramalho: glad you figured it out, such things can be tricky
14:45 rramalho wierd stuff on the firewall
14:45 rramalho now that almost everyone is working from home
14:44 rramalho no one ever noticed this, because almost no one was working from home
14:44 rramalho It was happening to all clients connected via VPN
14:16 oleonard git blame is bullying me today
14:15 eythian when seeing things that happen within a network only, the first thing I'd look to is if there's weird local DNS stuff happening (for example, one DNS server not responding - though you'd possibly see that across multiple URLs, depending) or a proxy in the way.
14:10 oleonard Not at all rramalho, I'm happy to help
14:10 rramalho so very sorry
14:10 rramalho I'm sorry for your time
14:09 rramalho thanks
14:09 rramalho very wierdly, it's something that only happens inside our network
14:09 rramalho ok
14:08 oleonard rramalho it works very quickly for me
14:07 rramalho It won't open until a very big timeout
14:07 rramalho now try to open any link
14:06 oleonard rramalho For what it's worth, my search in your OPAC for "state economy" returned results very quickly
14:06 TimothyAlexis oleonard :D
14:05 oleonard TimothyAlexis thank you for modifying "memorable" with "happily" :D
14:04 TimothyAlexis oleonard, Thank you for the guidance. I wish you superb health, well-being and happily memorable times ahead. :D
14:04 tcohen just pm
14:04 tcohen lari I'm open to discuss any ideas you might have
14:04 rramalho Same thing happens on the intranet/Backoffice
14:04 rramalho http://catalogo.cm-oeiras.pt/
14:03 rramalho I've just restarted all services and after the problem persisted, I've rebooted
14:03 rramalho and the koha server itself had an uptime of 200 days
14:03 rramalho the database server only had package updates
14:02 rramalho nop
14:02 oleonard rramalho has anything changed recently? Hardware change, Koha upgrade?
14:01 lari It's good like this, just a thought
14:00 tcohen lari we can explore that, I haven't. I felt comfortable with devs explicitly writing there might be unhandled exceptions
14:00 rramalho It's our server
14:00 cait1 rramalho: i am sorry, I am not coming up with anything that could cause this
14:00 rramalho yeah
14:00 oleonard rramalho do you manage the server Koha is installed on?
13:59 rramalho Can anyone help me?
13:59 lari if so we wouldnt have to write anything in the controllers
13:59 lari tcohen: good work with the api exception handling. do you know if it's possible to pass the exception into a hook by itself, maybe before render
13:55 rramalho koha 18.05.02.000
13:55 oleonard TimothyAlexis, you could file a bug for the markup corrections and submit two patches on it: one for indentation and another for markup
13:55 rramalho If I search "state economy" it'll timeout after a while
13:54 rramalho returns the results just fine
13:54 rramalho It's fine
13:54 rramalho If the search is just a work like "economy"
13:53 rramalho When I search for something on the OPAC
13:53 rramalho I'm having an issue that I can't find a solution for
13:53 TimothyAlexis Could these be treated as one issue?
13:53 rramalho We use Koha on our Municipality to manage all public Libraries
13:52 TimothyAlexis Other than that is was minor things like reduntant whitespace characters and inconsistent closing comments.
13:52 rramalho i'm talking from Portugal
13:52 rramalho Hi!
13:51 TimothyAlexis The changes I made was for the code to agree with the https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines
13:50 oleonard So the first step would be to file a bug report for each of the issues you found, and make them dependent on each other if necessary
13:50 cait1 good decision :)
13:49 TimothyAlexis That's why I came here. :)
13:49 TimothyAlexis Yeah I figured.
13:49 oleonard Indentation corrections would be just one issue, and shouldn't be mixed with other changes
13:49 oleonard TimothyAlexis we try to keep patches specific to one issue, each tied to a separate bug report
13:48 TimothyAlexis So I went through the whole file and made corrections.
13:48 TimothyAlexis We have custom code in there which I was fixing but I noticed there was a lot to fix in the base too.
13:45 TimothyAlexis I was working with opac-detail.tt and made a ton of fixes with indentation and such.
13:44 oleonard Yes
13:44 TimothyAlexis Hello, is this the proper channel to bring stuff about code?
13:19 cait1 no idea
13:18 * oleonard assumes you can revoke a share in, for instance, Google Drive?
13:17 cait1 and you lose access to the data :)
13:17 cait1 and then the other kicks you out
13:17 cait1 you work on something for homeowrk (or whatever) together
13:17 cait1 maybe also bcause it would be mean
13:15 oleonard Confusing because we don't want to build in a mechanism for notifying the person that the list was unshared
13:14 magnuse too confusing for the sharer to unshare the share
13:14 oleonard Why can't the sharer un-share the list?
13:13 oleonard Seems weird that the list "remove share" link is only on the list for the user with whom the list is shared
12:02 * oleonard brb
11:53 Null404 I'm trying via ssh
11:53 Null404 a files are difrent
11:53 Null404 I'm trying to copy opac.css file from main server to test one
11:50 tcohen what are you trying to do?
11:50 tcohen whats up Null404
11:48 wahanui hey, Null404
11:48 Null404 hello
11:48 tcohen hi alll
11:16 cait1 you might be just on time
11:16 cait1 hi oleonard :)
11:07 Null404 is in : /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/css
11:07 Null404 okay, I found opac.css location on Ubuntu
11:06 oleonard Hi #koha
10:54 davidnind Joubu++
10:51 Joubu now it is, weird
10:50 Joubu it's not wahanui
10:50 wahanui wiki is back :)
10:50 Joubu wiki?
10:33 Joubu IIRC we always send the Koha::Hold object
10:29 khall Joubu as long as you've verified all reserve notices use the pk now, that is a good fix
10:28 Null404 hi
10:27 khall mornin!
09:33 Joubu gitlab stopped sending me notifications, hum?...
09:33 Joubu Thanks ashimema
09:32 ashimema have a good one #koha
09:32 * ashimema goes back to playing with the kids
09:32 ashimema cait1.. one for your next weekly mail.. :)
09:31 ashimema ^
09:31 wahanui qa_team is cait Joubu marcelr kohaputti josef_moravec tcohen kidclamp khall
09:31 ashimema qa_team?
09:31 ashimema qateam?
09:31 ashimema Joubu++
09:31 ashimema heads up qateam.. lots of improvements to the QA script just merged
09:30 cait1 Null404: the RM and RMaints pull in the most current files for every version before each release - so you can also fix stuff in older ones, while they are still maintained
09:29 Null404 ok, thanks for info
09:28 Joubu Null404: in the next release
09:26 Null404 if translating is done will names automatic updated ?
09:25 davidnind One of the many tasks that need people to do them! :)
09:25 Null404 okay
09:24 davidnind Null404: others can confirm (or say otherwise), but I think it depends how much of the translation has been done https://translate.koha-community.org/projects/19.11/
09:17 Null404 It in normal that some functions are in English language instead Polsih in KOHA 19.11 ?
09:15 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22630 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Allow to change homebranch in course reserves
09:15 jajm cait1, i submitted new patches to bug 22630, qa tool is happy now :)
09:15 cait1 (10:49:22) Joubu: jajm: is_boolean can be part of a "DB changes" commit (kohastructure, atomic update, etc.)
09:15 cait1 you shoudl listen to Joubu - ia m not making much sense today :)
09:14 jajm cait1, that's a vague conclusion :)
09:13 cait1 jajm: talking to Joubu - missing some lines somewhere is the conclusion
09:08 nlegrand a git yur
09:08 ashimema I have scripts to regenerate the schema as part of push anyway to help me catch issues
09:07 wahanui Greetings, programs!
09:07 Null404 Hello there
09:07 ashimema As RM I don't worry too much.. I tend to convert the commit message..
09:06 ashimema I am not sure why we do the whole Don not push schema commits
08:56 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22630 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Allow to change homebranch in course reserves
08:56 cait1 bug 22630
08:51 Joubu missing from?
08:50 cait1 Joubu: so something is still missing?
08:50 jajm i don't mind one line commits ;)
08:49 Joubu if you want to avoid a one line commit ;)
08:49 Joubu jajm: is_boolean can be part of a "DB changes" commit (kohastructure, atomic update, etc.)
08:48 jajm Joubu, ok thanks
08:48 jajm cait1, no, there's a piece of code to add manually, i'm just asking if i should attach only that to the bug report, or also the generated parts
08:48 Joubu jajm: generate schema files commit separately, then add a separate commit for the is_boolean change
08:47 cait1 I am used to people adding the schema files, i might have just forgot, if nothing is missing on your side
08:47 cait1 Joubu: around ?
08:47 cait1 maybe i forgot to run dbic?
08:47 cait1 oh
08:46 jajm cait1, how should i fix that ? should i only add the piece of code at the end of schema file (like in https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines#DBIC_schema_files) even if the column is not present in the schema file yet ? or should i generate the whole schema file ?
08:40 cait1 but there is a qa tool fail
08:39 cait1 homebranch
08:39 cait1 jajm: was looking at course reserves this morning - hope to get back later
08:39 cait1 lds++ still :)
08:39 jajm it's lds but he's not here
08:38 cait1 what's laurent's nick?
08:38 cait1 jajm++
08:38 cait1 cool thx
08:36 jajm cait1, https://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo is up
08:15 cait1 eythian: logical
08:10 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
08:10 Joubu @later tell khall Hi Kyle, about 15253 - did you see the other comments? indentation and undef@undef?
08:08 eythian (to be fair, porcupine also means spike pig.)
08:05 eythian cait1: tell that to the beak animal. Or the spike pig.
08:04 cait1 eythian: it only shows there is some logic in my language - don't you think? :)
08:03 cait1 ups
07:55 wahanui i think working from home is still recommended
07:55 cait1 working from home...
07:54 eythian cait1: a) I don't see why not, b) why are you at work there's a pandemic going on you know.
07:54 cait1 also, hi back ;)
07:53 cait1 eythian: I am never sure if it's safe to click on your links at work :)
07:51 eythian also, hi
07:51 eythian cait1: https://twitter.com/thisisbionic/status/1253146536508178433
07:18 cait1 hi marcelr :)
07:17 marcelr hi cait1
07:17 cait1 good morning #koha
06:57 alex_a Bonjour
06:35 marcelr hi #koha
06:30 wahanui niihau, reiveune
06:30 reiveune hello
06:12 philor 28 steps just to *not* see the bug, then you have to repeat all 28 to see it :)
06:12 * philor thinks that should make marcelr think twice before saying "with detailed steps" where he will see it
02:57 davidnind (and everyone else as well!)
02:57 davidnind lisettelatah++
02:56 tuxayo Hooray for all Kohathon contributors! If some are here.
02:53 rangi heh
02:51 tuxayo https://invidio.us/watch?v=ABtfre94Xj0
02:51 tuxayo https://invidio.us/watch?v=fOcvBSewwHc
02:51 tuxayo To celebrate the end of the Kohathon: here is some music from the Japanese artist Koha-pink!
02:50 tuxayo Kohathon in 2021, yay :D
02:42 tuxayo https://liberapay.com/
02:42 tuxayo I hope at some point Koha US would support also Liberapay it for recurring donations. It's libre/open source and also supports Stripe (in addtion to Paypal) for payments.
02:28 tuxayo hayley++
02:25 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24085 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to stable , Double submission of forms on returns.pl
02:25 hayley I found bug 24085 about returns.pl but couldn't see any other obvious ones
02:23 tuxayo yay
02:23 hayley there is a bug report open for that at the moment that I saw tuxayo, possibly already pushed to master
02:22 huginn tuxayo: The operation succeeded.
02:22 tuxayo @later tell oleonard do we have issues due to double submit? At Kohathon a talk showed a customization to block a submit button when clicked once.
02:19 tuxayo Kohathon talk: It's very nice to block the submit buttons when clicked to avoid double submit!
02:13 tuxayo nice!
02:13 tuxayo > I've tried to do one a day
02:07 davidnind (Some are a bit easier than others, the larger ones or ones for areas I don't know anything about can take a bit longer...)
02:06 davidnind I've tried to do one a day, sometimes I get carried away in the weekends!
02:03 tuxayo Testing all those patches isn't that long? (please teach us your secrets!)
02:02 davidnind Not so much the dependable part...:)
02:02 davidnind Not so much, only in the evenings (or mornings) - mainly when I'm procrastinating about working on the documentation.. :-[
02:01 * tuxayo learns english https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/good_sort
02:01 hayley davidnind++
02:00 tuxayo For the huge personal time donation
02:00 hayley davidnind is a good sort :)
02:00 tuxayo davidnind++
02:00 davidnind True!
02:00 tuxayo davidnind: wait you work so much on Koha (so many signoffs!) and your dayjob isn't related to it? :o
01:59 tuxayo > and we don't unfortunately use Koha
01:57 tuxayo Depends on the map ;) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South-up_map_orientation
01:57 tuxayo > the bottom of the world!
01:56 davidnind None of the above, I work at a government agency (and we don't unfortunately use Koha :-()
01:55 tuxayo davidnind: So, from NZ are you like from Catalyst, Katipo, HLT?
01:55 davidnind Hi from nearly the bottom of the world!
01:52 tuxayo hi from the other side of world o/
01:51 davidnind Hi tuxayo - I'm from Wellington, New Zealand
01:50 tuxayo *a
01:50 tuxayo Although you seem regular one ^^
01:50 tuxayo davidnind: Speaking of timezones where are you from? I didn't found you https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars
01:48 tuxayo neat! For a GUI as a standalone program there also gworldclock https://screenshots.debian.net/package/gworldclock
01:39 davidnind I use https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/personal.html at the moment
01:38 tuxayo Installed by default on Linuxes and hopefully on macOS also
01:37 tuxayo CET Fri Apr 24 03:37:04 2020 CEST
01:37 tuxayo America/Argentina/Buenos_Aires Thu Apr 23 22:37:04 2020 -03
01:37 tuxayo America/Los_Angeles Thu Apr 23 18:37:04 2020 PDT
01:37 tuxayo NZ Fri Apr 24 13:37:04 2020 NZST
01:37 tuxayo zdump NZ America/Los_Angeles America/Argentina/Buenos_Aires CET
01:36 tuxayo I just found a command that made my day to get the time in multiple places in the world at once. (very useful here!)
01:34 tuxayo *sites
01:34 tuxayo It actually work with +1200 videowebsite, it's insane
01:33 tuxayo Someone did a UI: https://github.com/MrS0m30n3/youtube-dl-gui
01:32 lisettelatah thanks tuxayo! We'll look into that.
01:32 tuxayo Libre open source, should be to install on Linux, macOS and Windows
01:31 tuxayo https://ytdl-org.github.io/youtube-dl/index.html
01:31 wahanui well, lisettelatah is running the devbox install
01:31 tuxayo > It turns out those videos might be difficult to extract from youtube
01:31 tuxayo lisettelatah
01:22 davidnind great!
01:21 rangi cool
01:21 lisettelatah davidnind: It turns out those videos might be difficult to extract from youtube, so we might do timestamps instead, but either way there should be specific links available by early next week.
01:16 davidnind Good thanks! (In a bubble of one)
01:15 rangi hope you're well in your bubble
01:15 rangi perfect, thanks davidnind
01:14 davidnind rangi: lisettelatah said earlier on that individual videos for Kohathon2020 would be available in a day or so
00:41 philor expand those young minds
00:41 * philor leaves in Curry County cow theft cases, 1939
00:37 philor odds are, the person setting it that way thought "oh, I'll allow any staff member to add things, that way I won't have to remember once a year to add the new winner"
00:36 philor oleonard: yeah, I forget that it's a separate allow changes from field rather than public/private
00:31 oleonard philor: So when you say "public list" you mean it can be added to by anyone
00:31 tuxayo Might no be easy for non-native speakers like me ^^
00:30 rangi oh thats a cool trick
00:30 tuxayo cc bag
00:29 tuxayo When it's catches up, it will go back to 1.0
00:29 tuxayo You can catch up with the livestream if you are late by some time by setting the playback speed to 1.25
00:29 tuxayo For people watching the kohathon: youtube livestream trick:
00:29 philor currently at the newest of our newberys, the movie Just Mercy and three Aunt Dimity books
00:29 rangi new berrys are not ripe yet?
00:28 philor a public list, so adding to it is the first thing listed for any patron who doesn't have a private list created already
00:28 oleonard We have a Newbery list too. Why is it a bad idea?
00:28 philor I always forget that you can use the checkboxes to place holds, so I think of them as just lists/carts, that I don't want
00:27 philor my system has a public list of Newbery Winners, obviously a bad idea, which does say that add to list gets used (accidentally)
00:27 oleonard I'll share it on the list and see what others think
00:27 rangi :)
00:26 oleonard Great, glad to hear it's not a product of quarantine delirium
00:25 rangi yeah
00:25 tuxayo *nice touch
00:25 tuxayo And the text that says it's to select is a touch.
00:25 tuxayo oleonard: good idea. It's now too much space for something not that much used.
00:24 oleonard Pros: More obvious label, possibly better for screen readers... Con: Not what people expect.
00:24 rangi yeah i like that
00:24 rangi i getcha now
00:24 rangi oh you mean move it
00:22 rangi for adding multiples to a list ? hmm i dunno if it is used much
00:21 rangi hm lemme look
00:21 oleonard I'll share this now that different people are awake. I'm thinking about eliminating the checkbox column in search results: https://zivotdesign.com/p/view.php?p=15876657007590 I can't tell whether it's a dumb idea.
00:21 tuxayo http://schema.koha-community.org/17_11/
00:21 tuxayo Much less than before though ^^"
00:21 tuxayo > schema is intimidating
00:21 tuxayo talk:
00:20 rangi that reminds i should regenerate the schemas, but not while she is using them :)
00:18 rangi her slide deck is neat
00:16 rangi Margaret is cool
00:13 rangi :)
00:12 tuxayo thanks bag for asking
00:12 tuxayo watch everything: or jump to the next talk if I really don't understand ^^"
00:12 tuxayo my plan was to watch everything and note the timestamp URLs and then send to the Koha list
00:12 tuxayo > we could just timestamp them too
00:12 tuxayo rangi
00:10 rangi (i mean just have a link to the time they start on the programme)
00:10 rangi thta'd be fine
00:09 rangi we could just timestamp them too
00:09 huginn bag: The operation succeeded.
00:09 bag @later tell jzairo - are we going to break each session up into individual videos?
00:09 rangi cool
00:09 bag not sure - I know now that each session is recorded
00:07 rangi im assuming they will get cut up into individual videos for easy replay eh?
00:06 oleonard Aw dang I missed the Open Refine talk