Time  Nick          Message
23:41 tuxayo        thanks :)
23:40 bag           Failed QA works
23:40 tuxayo        Failed QA?
23:40 tuxayo        (and I'm confident about having well followed the test plan)
23:39 tuxayo        I forgot which status should I set on a bug when after applying a test plan, I don't get the expected result.
23:18 rangi         yep :)
23:15 cait          still finding ways to bring the community together :)
23:15 cait          it's great to see the online events
23:15 cait          koha_us++ :)
23:14 bag           this stream is going pretty strongly now - yay!!
23:07 tuxayo        bag++
23:05 rangi         ta bag
23:03 bag           https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSXL6aYCeRs
22:58 tuxayo        Good thing the KohaDevBox setup demo was recorded. Since a new dependency of Koha on master could break any live demo ^^"
22:24 tuxayo        wow kohathon is so cool, I'll try follow now and catchup on the rest
22:17 tuxayo        😱
22:16 philor        there was a time when you could only get some of the Firefox date tests to pass by setting your timezone to match Mountain View, CA
22:00 cait          hates dates
22:00 * tcohen      hates tests about dates math
21:59 oleonard      Probably sulking because we killed queryparser ;)
21:49 bag           huh I wonder what he’s up to :)
21:47 oleonard      did anyone call jcamins XD ?
21:47 oleonard      bag: I liked seeing y'all together in the RM chat
21:40 cait          :)
21:38 ashimema      Aww.. Millie's onesie is in a memories box waiting to come out in her 18th birthday 😀
21:15 hayley        cuute
21:14 cait          ooh
21:13 caroline      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj0DXD2K0_8&feature=youtu.be
21:13 caroline      jzairo put a picture of her baby with the "Future Koha developer" onesie
21:13 cait          where?
21:13 wahanui       i think no is that a thing? I was just thinking about how I like all kinds of chips and now I find out that there is a licorice flavor!
21:13 cait          no?
21:11 caroline      cait, did you see the onesie?
21:08 rangi         :)
21:08 cait          :)
21:06 bag           it’s been pretty good so far - and you didn’t miss that much this morning during the campfire chat.  I don’t think you would have said anything different - the overall theme was encouragement
21:05 rangi         thanks bag
21:04 bag           https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj0DXD2K0_8
21:03 bag           rangi: we are just starting the third part - if you wanted to join that
20:28 rangi         morning ashimema
20:21 ashimema      morning rangi
20:00 rangi         damnit i slept through kohathon
19:25 tuxayo        https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/kick_in_the_pants
19:25 tuxayo        Okay, that's the metaphor I guessed ^^
19:24 * tuxayo      searches what does "kick in the pants" means
18:43 oleonard      I dunno if that's true, of course!
18:40 oleonard      It occurred to me that having a screen reader read off the label for the checkbox *before* it read the rest of the information about the title might not be helpful
18:40 oleonard      It's good to get a kick in the pants about accessibility
18:38 ashimema      Beers owed
18:38 ashimema      Awesome.. I really didn't mean to add them to your list
18:38 ashimema      Lol.. your beating me to those bugs
18:27 caroline      Just wondering if patrons will be confused... Like when the "Save" button was suddenly switched to the top of the form rather than the bottom
18:26 * oleonard    is innovating ;)
18:25 caroline      hm... I don't know I feel like checkboxes are always on the top left (not just in Koha, but everywhere)?
18:15 oleonard      https://zivotdesign.com/p/view.php?p=15876657007590
18:15 oleonard      What if we got rid of the column?
18:15 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25244 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Accessibility: Checkboxes on the search results page do not contain specific aria labels
18:15 oleonard      Bug 25244 has me thinking about the checkboxes in OPAC search results...
17:51 ashimema      By the same workaround of adding them into kohadevbox setup scripts.. or did you mean fixing the nightly builds
17:36 tcohen        we can solve that right now
17:34 ashimema      Its our workaround for the nightly packages not currently being built.. once I spot the issue, I check that it's in hand with mason than I manually add them to our dockerfiles to get Jenkins happy
17:33 ashimema      Email messageid for example
17:33 ashimema      They're not listed in kohadevbox equivalent
17:33 ashimema      A bunch of the dependancies we've added to the dockerfiles in koha-testing-docker
17:32 oleonard      ashimema and tcohen, it was great to see you in the RM chat!
17:32 tcohen        what's failing with kohadevbox?
17:31 tcohen        finished servind family's lunch
17:31 philor        and if kohadevbox is abandoned, someone should probably go through all the docs that currently say it's the thing and don't mention koha-testing-docker at all
17:31 tcohen        hi
17:30 ashimema      Hope your all still enjoying it.. ping me here if you want me at all 😀
17:29 ashimema      I'd love to be watching the kohathon still.. but family calls
17:29 ashimema      Or perhaps more of the ansible stuff could be shared between the two
17:28 ashimema      I feel like we aught to help lissettelatah update her workflow to use koha-testing-docker.. or start maintaining kohadevbox again.. most of here issues reading back are to do with a lack of maint.. i.e. we've resolved them in koha-testing-docker
17:27 cait          https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_20.11 )
17:26 cait          hm thinking about it... maybe topic expert authorities would be for you?
17:26 cait          philor: you are already a valueable resource :)
17:26 philor        I'm an "expert" at cleaning up seven years of completely ignoring authority records, but I've only just started on import, and hadn't even thought about export->import
17:24 cait          was worth trying :)
17:24 philor        cait: I don't, sorry
17:24 philor        and be less tiresome than my method of creating a new personal name record and merging the topical to it
17:24 cait          do you have a working matching rule for 035 by chance?
17:24 cait          philor: i wonder... as you are an authority expert
17:23 philor        reimporting the same records with the same control numbers ought to work
17:22 cait          authority matching rules appear to be hard - there is some discusion on koha-de about it
17:22 cait          caroline: it might work if they match, but not sure
17:15 oleonard      caroline I did the same!
17:14 caroline      was in the wrong video, lol!
17:13 caroline      like export all the authority records, batch edit, reimport with right framework
17:12 caroline      ah, I lost the chat in my youtube tab,,, I was wondering if we could do batch edits of authority records with MarcEdit (re: my question from yesterday of switching a topic_term authority to a genre/form authority)
17:10 oleonard      I wish we had batch a patron message management tool... batch delete messages, batch add messages...
17:07 cait          who knows :)
17:06 oleonard      cait, rangi might have been afraid that if he showed up for the RM chat someone would ask him to be RM again
17:06 cait          not sure that was the indented effect - but same
17:05 caroline      same...
17:02 * oleonard    isn't very productive while listening to YouTube
17:01 cait          oleonard: mail server has problems again, don't be disappointed at empty inbox
17:00 cait          oleonard: looks like rangi slept through it too :)
16:56 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23081 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Item search : Filter for Items with Zero Checkouts Returns No Results
16:56 cait          bug 23081
16:55 cait          and it turns out you can't look for 'has had no checkouts'
16:55 cait          Donna is just heavily demoing item search
16:54 oleonard      Aw, I missed RM chat
16:54 cait          wonder if someone would be able to have a look at fixing 23081
15:36 reiveune      bye
15:30 cait1         thx!
15:26 huginn        Joubu: The operation succeeded.  Quote #339 added.
15:26 Joubu         @quote add heather This embodies the whole spirit of the Koha Community--it's like you walk up and ask, "Can I play?" and everyone starts sharing the toys & it's full of laughter!
15:22 cait1         could someone quote add what heather just said in kohathon chat? :)
15:14 cait1         :)
15:04 lisettelatah  joubu++
15:04 lisettelatah  perfect, thanks for your help
14:59 Joubu         those*
14:58 Joubu         thos are warnings, you can ignore them
14:58 lisettelatah  But then I got some update errors: [Thu Apr 23 14:57:44 2020] updatedatabase.pl: Use of uninitialized value $interface in concatenation (.) or string at /home/vagrant/kohaclone/C4/Languages.pm line 122. [Thu Apr 23 14:57:44 2020] updatedatabase.pl: Use of uninitialized value $theme in concatenation (.) or string at /home/vagrant/kohaclone/C4/Languages.pm line 122.
14:57 lisettelatah  Joubu: That worked!
14:54 Joubu         lisettelatah: sudo apt instal libcpan-meta-perl
14:51 lisettelatah  Joubu: That worked and then when I logged into the webinstaller I got this: Can't locate object method "phases" via package "CPAN::Meta::Prereqs" at /home/vagrant/kohaclone/C4/Installer/PerlModules.pm line 55
14:49 caroline      definitely :) you're a good salesperson :)
14:49 kidclamp      I'd rather over encourage though :-))
14:49 kidclamp      at least to submit a patch and say "this bit shoudl say this"
14:49 caroline      yes, but it's still git vocabulary (commit, merge-request, etc)
14:48 kidclamp      can you submit via gitlab directly now?
14:48 caroline      kidclamp: I feel like a basic understanding of git is necessary... :/
14:41 Joubu         there is a missing module
14:41 Joubu         lisettelatah: sudo apt install libemail-messageid-perl
14:38 lisettelatah  Joubu: https://pastebin.com/yQtREZjb There is a ton of that and it is still running.
14:31 cait1         maybe just youtube oddities
14:31 cait1         i continually watched since yours lisettelatah, so not sure what changed
14:31 cait1         ah, it came thropugh lol
14:30 lisettelatah  I wonder if there is a link permission for chat or something?
14:29 cait1         i was seen earlier i think
14:29 cait1         odd
14:29 cait1         yep
14:29 lisettelatah  I'll try from Koha-US, do you see that?
14:29 cait1         wonder if we are in a different timeline
14:29 cait1         lol
14:28 Joubu         lol
14:28 lisettelatah  I don't see either of yours
14:28 Joubu         I don't see yours :D
14:28 cait1         idid too, but don't see yours JOnathan
14:28 cait1         hm did we overlap?
14:27 ashimema      thanks
14:27 Joubu         done
14:24 ashimema      someone fancy putting that in the yourtube chat for me.. don't want to mess up my audio ;)
14:24 ashimema      https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_20.11
14:17 Joubu         then restart_all, and hit the mainpage
14:17 Joubu         I am expecting something more meaningful in /var/log/koha/kohadev/plack-error.log
14:16 Joubu         try `tail -f /var/log/koha/*/*`
14:16 Joubu         lisettelatah: something else in /var/log/koha/*/* ?
14:12 lisettelatah  github should be back up now
14:11 ashimema      hopefully better now
14:11 kohaputti     :)
14:11 kohaputti     it is now
14:11 ashimema      though. it claims it's muted
14:11 ashimema      thanks
14:10 kohaputti     ashimema, mute your mic, it is echoing
14:09 lisettelatah  and [(date info)] [proxy_http:error] [pid 32660] (70007)The timeout specified has expired: [client 10.0.2.2:65076] AH01102: error reading status line from remote server
14:07 lisettelatah  Joubu: In the intranet-error.log I get: [(date info)] [proxy:error] [pid 23660] [client 10.0.2.2:65076] AH00898: Error reading from remote server returned by /cgi-bin/koha/mainpage.pl, referer: http://localhost:8081/cgi-bin/koha/mainpage.pl
13:56 lisettelatah  joubu, let me check
13:51 Joubu         lisettelatah: regarding your kohadevbox problem, do you have something in the Koha log file?
13:39 ashimema      github came back up long enough for me to grab the branch I wanted :)
13:18 oleonard      gitlab is still up!
13:18 cait1         or github
13:18 cait1         the mailngl ist server, gitlab...
13:18 cait1         sabotage...
13:17 ashimema      glad it's not just me
13:17 lisettelatah  It looks like it. Nothing will load for me
13:15 ashimema      hmm.. did github just fall over
13:12 ashimema      I remember you adding that one
13:12 cait1         jajm++
13:12 cait1         thanks :)
13:12 jajm          cait1, that's ok ;) i just told him
13:11 magnuse       adding quotes in your sleep, cait1?
13:11 cait1         jajm: sorry to 'use' you, or trying to happy to see you as well :)
13:11 cait1         oh - I don't remember that one :)
13:11 huginn        magnuse: Quote #336: "josef_moravec: ... no problem, that's why we are team, nobody can notice everything by self ;)" (added by cait at 09:22 AM, March 07, 2019)
13:11 magnuse       @quote get 336
13:10 cait1         hi :) I was wondering if you coudl ping ldl? - https://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo seems to have an issue
13:10 huginn        magnuse: Quote #337: "oleonard> Everything Koha lacks is something that no one has given to Koha." (added by magnuse at 01:50 PM, February 20, 2020)
13:10 magnuse       @quote get 337
13:10 ashimema      :)
13:10 jajm          cait1, yes
13:10 huginn        magnuse: The operation succeeded.  Quote #338 added.
13:10 magnuse       @quote add oleonard: [Koha is] the closest to world domination any of us will ever get, and I'll take it!
13:09 cait1         jajm: around? or alex_a?
13:09 huginn        magnuse: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
13:09 magnuse       @quote add oleonard: [Koha is] the closest to world domination any of us will ever get, and I'll take it!
13:09 cait1         oleonard++ :)
13:08 magnuse       oleonard: very cool point!
13:08 cait1         https://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo
13:08 oleonard      ashimema: It's the closest to world domination any of us will ever get, and I'll take it!
13:08 cait1         is it possible mailing lists are down again? noticing some bug mails i haven't got yet
13:07 ashimema      always love it to here "koha is the most used ils in the world"
13:05 oleonard      :D
13:05 cait1         but if Iever fall in the shower or something... it might be helfpul
13:05 cait1         oleonard: not sure who you are talking about!
13:05 cait1         dito :)
13:04 * magnuse     still uses kohadevbox, though
13:04 * magnuse     thought we were already recommending the docker thingy
13:04 magnuse       lulz
12:58 ashimema      agreed.. I have a few in mind like that..
12:57 ashimema      haha..
12:57 oleonard      There should be a section of super-regulars labeled, "If you don't see them in IRC please check on them in real life to make sure they're okay"
12:56 ashimema      there are certainly a few less than regulars listed there
12:56 ashimema      hehe
12:56 * oleonard    threatens to demote "regulars" off the irc regulars page if they're not regular enough
12:54 ashimema      but I'm totally aware it's not the case for most others out there
12:54 ashimema      yeah.. I pretty much only use linux these days.. have to borrower the daughters laptop if I want to play with windows.
12:54 oleonard      davidnind I also had problems getting docker working on Windows a while ago but it seems to be better now
12:53 davidnind     last time I tried I couldn't get it working on Windows (should try again), koha-testing-docker works brilliantly on my linux desktop
12:53 oleonard      There's a system-level service which has to run or not run depending on which you're using, requires a restart to turn on and off
12:52 ashimema      Interesting
12:52 oleonard      ...which is only an issue if you use Virtualbox for something besides Koha
12:52 oleonard      The main issue with koha-testing-docker on Windows is that you can't run it and Virtualbox at the same time
12:51 oleonard      ashimema I agree, I think we should be suggesting koha-testing-docker these days.
12:51 ashimema      and cats.. and cake recipes ;)
12:51 wahanui       hi, kohaputti
12:51 kohaputti     hi
12:51 ashimema      we will always try to help :)
12:50 oleonard      :D
12:50 ashimema[m]   Hi lisettelatah
12:49 wahanui       hi oleopard
12:49 lisettelatah  hi oleonard
12:49 oleonard      Smile everyone you're on the live stream
12:49 ashimema[m]   I'm just wondering about the challenges of maintaining both.. I've been recomending docker more of late simply because I'm more familiar with how it works and how to help others using it.
12:49 oleonard      Hi lisettelatah!
12:49 ashimema[m]   whats the windows experience like for koha-testing-docker?
12:48 ashimema[m]   are we still recommending kohadevbox strongly>
12:46 tcohen        I cannot start plack on KOHA_IMAGE=master-buster
12:45 ashimema[m]   ooh, never seen that
12:43 tcohen        in buster
12:43 tcohen        . ok
12:43 tcohen        [....] Starting Plack daemon for kohadev:Pid_file already exists for running process (757)... aborting
12:43 tcohen        anyone seen this: start-stop-daemon: matching only on non-root pidfile /var/run/koha/kohadev/plack.pid is insecure
12:06 cait1         :(
12:04 oleonard      Sacrificed to the ideals of profit :(
12:04 * oleonard    remembers that biblios.net existed and that it was a good idea https://web.archive.org/web/20161011001328/http://biblios.net/how
11:57 * ashimema[m] has the tab open and waiting :)
11:51 davidnind     Kohathon2020 starting in about 10mins - see http://koha-us.org/kohathon-2020/ for the schedule and live stream link
11:45 kohaputti     Joubu, wrote something there now... Maybe you can rewrite the text more nicely
11:44 Joubu         we should at least say that the previous table does no longer exist
11:44 Joubu         kohaputti: yes!
11:39 magnuse       document all the things!
11:32 kohaputti     Joubu, I'm thinking it is worth documenting the circulation rule database schema change in the tech notes
11:19 magnuse       huh, i was sure i had seen a bug about waiting holds messing with the decreaseLoanHighHolds settings, but now i can't find it. did i dream up a koha bug again?
11:18 magnuse       \o/
11:12 tcohen        morning
11:12 oleonard      Hi all
10:38 ashimema[m]   davidnind++
09:13 Joubu         yes, disabled="disabled" to not send them
09:04 josef_moravec but that should not be big deal
09:04 josef_moravec nlegrand: hope so, don't forget to handle it right in pl script. I think the form does send the other select too, even if they are hidden
09:02 nlegrand      josef_moravec: nice idea
08:59 josef_moravec nlegrand: I would generate a select box for each library desks and they would be hidden. And then in javascript add hander for onchange to libraries select box, the handler simply hide the shown desks select if there is any visible and shows the right one - based on library code for example
08:52 nlegrand      :)
08:50 Joubu         ...
08:50 Joubu         query nlegrand Salut Nicolas
08:41 ashimema[m]   as ever.. I really hope we can carry the current moment through into the next cycle.. allot of things get left too late in a cycle to really achieve :(
08:40 ashimema[m]   teamwork.. we've got some great people
08:40 ashimema[m]   :)
08:40 josef_moravec nlegrand: not at all ;)
08:38 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2441 normal, P3, ---, chris, CLOSED FIXED, receiving more than 1 item
08:38 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24201 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nicolas.legrand, Failed QA , Attach desk to intranet session
08:38 nlegrand      josef_moravec: thanks a lot too for all your work on Bug 24201 and Bug 2441
08:37 ashimema[m]   form field select box whose content is dependant on the selection of a precedding select box selection?
08:36 ashimema[m]   Joubu can you think of an example for the above?
08:36 ashimema[m]   no worries at all
08:36 ashimema[m]   as for prior art.. I can't think of any off the top of my head, but I'm sure there must be an example somewhere
08:35 nlegrand      ashimema[m]: by the way, thank you a lot for your enthousiasm and help about all thoses patches.
08:35 ashimema[m]   Indeed, it'll need some JS
08:32 nlegrand      ashimema[m]: to make the desk choice on the change library page, I think I need a sort of js that update the desk list according to the library. Is this kind of behaviour already existing in Koha? Is there a good way to do it? I'm asking because some are picky about js.
08:24 ashimema[m]   thanks nlegrand
08:22 Joubu         Anyone using kohadevbox here?
08:18 nlegrand      maybe something can be ready monday
08:17 nlegrand      I have some reports to do and then I will be able to concentrate a bit on it.
08:16 nlegrand      right
08:14 ashimema[m]   right now you can define desks but not do anything with them.. which feels wrong
08:14 ashimema[m]   whether you're likely to get back to it in the next few days or whether it should be a 20.11 target
08:14 ashimema[m]   I was wondering about your desks bug tree nlegrand
08:12 ashimema[m]   as if by magic
08:12 nlegrand      a gut yor
07:53 huginn        ashimema[m]: nlegrand was last seen in #koha 1 week, 5 days, 23 hours, 46 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <nlegrand> gut morgn
07:53 ashimema[m]   @seen nlegrand
07:52 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25245 new feature, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Add a plugin hook to allow running code on a nightly basis
07:52 ashimema[m]   bug 25245
07:45 wahanui       que tal, eythian
07:45 eythian       hi
07:12 magnuse       \o/
06:47 wahanui       what's up, alex_a
06:47 alex_a        Bonjour
06:33 * cait        waves
06:33 reiveune      hello
06:31 marcelr       hi philor tuxayo
06:26 tuxayo        See you later #koha o/
06:24 tuxayo        okay
06:23 wahanui       i already had it that way, huginn.
06:23 huginn        tuxayo: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
06:23 tuxayo        @time
06:23 tuxayo        whaaaaaaat
06:23 huginn        tuxayo: downloading the Perl source
06:23 tuxayo        @time
06:23 AnnaBoten     Error: "time" is not a valid command.
06:23 tuxayo        !time
06:23 tuxayo        Does anyone know how feasible it would be for one of our bots to be able from one command, list to the current times in at least 4 or 5 places?
06:21 tuxayo        Actually due to summer time, it's 8:21 in FR, NL, UK
06:21 tuxayo        Indeed
06:16 philor        US west coast, so I count on Europe getting up and greeting the world at 8am as a sign that it's midnight and I should give up for the day
06:15 tuxayo        At least not always, It's good switch timezones to get to know everyone :D
06:14 tuxayo        I should be in sync with marcelr since I'm in france, not with philor (from NZ or AU I guess?) .
06:14 tuxayo        Ho your are right, it's morning already >_<
06:14 tuxayo        > marcelr: hello, is it morning already?
06:12 tuxayo        o/ marcelr
06:12 tuxayo        thanks philor for the clarifications. I still piece by piece, i'll understand more Koha.
06:09 philor        ah, it is, just an early part of it
06:05 philor        marcelr: hello, is it morning already?
06:02 marcelr       hi #koha
05:56 philor        and if in your framework you mark 942 as mandatory, subfield c as mandatory, and the default data for subfield c as BK, when you import a record with that framework it has no 942, no c, no BK
05:56 philor        you could, hypothetically, stick a value in there while creating a bilioitems record, without touching the marc data, though that would be insane, and I see no sign of that being done
05:55 philor        they get there when a record is saved, by parsing out the contents of 942 $c
05:54 philor        bib level itemtypes are stored in biblioitems.itemtype
05:54 philor        there's no place in the UI for defining a framework to put that framework's default itemtype
05:54 philor        the former is true, you can use frameworkcode in a report, the latter is the whole of my question
05:53 philor        it says that choosing a framework is "helpful for running reports and having the right bib level item type selected on import."
05:41 tuxayo        So the manual say that Koha on import can define a missing 942$c. And it doesn't.
05:37 philor        so if there's no diff, then the manual either lies, or completely fails to mention the secret to making something which would be extremely useful work
05:36 philor        tuxayo: if the manual was telling the truth, then when you import a file which does not have a field 942 with a subfield c containing BK, and you select the Books, etc. framework, after import it would have a 942 $c
05:30 tuxayo        Is that good? (I unsuspectingly went well too far into librarian territory)
05:29 tuxayo        3) in koha after "file import" IIUC
05:29 tuxayo        philor: thanks, so no relevant diff between 1) at the LOC 2) in koha after Z39.50 import and MARCXML export
04:04 philor        https://lccn.loc.gov/ltf91050458/marcxml
04:02 tuxayo        It did, the link is the file that I imported
04:02 tuxayo        > well, their record did not have a 942 $cBK
04:00 philor        well, their record did not have a 942 $cBK, if it did they wouldn't also be claiming to use Dewey rather than LC classification
03:59 tuxayo        Z3950 from library of congress
03:58 philor        so yeah, that has a 942 $c set to BK, where did it get that?
03:58 tuxayo        and VR
03:58 tuxayo        I missed what is VM.
03:58 philor        certainly, by experiment, not the only part that it could be, setting 942 to mandatory, setting subfield c to mandatory, and setting its default to VM
03:57 tuxayo        https://copycat.drycat.fr/?0a11ed54af42d0f5#5ikwusQtzm58DGcQcG6v8nUkoEPbCy3BtmMWoBq5dj4Q
03:57 tuxayo        Here is the record:
03:57 tuxayo        Sorry, I don't know MARC ^^"
03:57 philor        my question is further back than that: you select to import using the VR framework, to set the bib level item type to VM, but what part of the framework definition says that records imported into it should get the VM itemtype?
03:55 tuxayo        I'll try to interpret the MARCXML of my imported record
03:55 tuxayo        > where does that itemtype come from?
03:55 tuxayo        I only checked on record level.
03:55 tuxayo        > works in what sense? you're seeing a itemtype being inserted in biblioitems?
03:53 philor        works in what sense? you're seeing a itemtype being inserted in biblioitems? where does that itemtype come from?
03:52 tuxayo        Does actually work! It's just that I elected the same framework as the imported record...
03:49 tuxayo        Work on koha-testing-docker and maybe KohaDevBox
03:49 tuxayo        To see the logs you can run "koha-plack-err" as root.
03:47 tuxayo        (retrying with another framework)
03:47 tuxayo        philor: works for me :P
03:11 * philor      suspects it means "bet you wish this was true" or perhaps "once upon a time this was true"
03:04 philor        when https://koha-community.org/manual//19.05/en/html/tools.html#staged-marc-record-management claims that choosing a framework on import is helpful for having the right bib level item type selected, what does it mean?
01:01 tuxayo        And there: http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2020-04-22#i_2239111
01:00 tuxayo        caroline: there: http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2020-04-22#i_2239393