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01:30 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #289: SUCCESS in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D9/289/
01:33 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #287: SUCCESS in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D8/287/
01:34 * dcook       waves
01:34 dcook         Any folk up and about atm?
01:38 dcook         Mmm nevermind. I think I'll wing it.
01:41 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #277: SUCCESS in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_U18/277/
06:23 * magnuse     waves
06:26 John042       welcome everyone
06:27 John042       I found in internet this guide: https://bywatersolutions.com/education/set-items-to-quarantine-status-upon-return , I folowed next steps and seems that is no worked
06:28 John042       so there is other way to add in KOHA temporarily bloking books ?
06:37 reiveune      hello
06:37 wahanui       bidet, reiveune
06:54 lds           hello
06:54 wahanui       privet, lds
07:04 alex_a        Bonjour
08:40 Joubu         @later tell tcohen weird, "full" view is not... full - https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/185/consoleFull Do you know if there is a "limit" in the config? I did not find one
08:40 huginn        Joubu: The operation succeeded.
08:40 Joubu         @later tell tcohen https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/185/console even more weird, the non-full view (go at the bottom)
08:40 huginn        Joubu: The operation succeeded.
08:41 Joubu         @later tell tcohen "GC overhead limit exceeded" this is the relevant part I guess
08:41 huginn        Joubu: The operation succeeded.
08:44 Joubu         @later tell tcohen stackoverflow says we need more -Xmx
08:44 huginn        Joubu: The operation succeeded.
08:44 Joubu         sooo, meeting?
08:45 Joubu         will open then close
08:45 Joubu         #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 15 April 2020
08:45 huginn        Meeting started Thu Apr 16 08:45:46 2020 UTC.  The chair is Joubu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
08:45 huginn        Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
08:45 huginn        The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_15_april_2020'
08:45 Joubu         #info meeting postponed
08:46 cait1         only half here, have a video conf and the meeting at 22 pm?
08:46 Joubu         next one in 2 weeks 14UTC?
08:46 Joubu         or 1 week?
08:46 Joubu         ashimema[m]: ?
08:46 cait1         why do we postpone?
08:47 cait1         and wasn't the date this evening?
08:47 Joubu         because it was yesterday
08:47 cait1         time
08:47 cait1         oh
08:47 cait1         i missed that... sorry
08:47 * cait1       blames the easter holidays
08:48 ashimema[m]   Confused
08:48 Joubu         I *think* we are Thursday
08:48 ashimema[m]   And I'm on the phone.. will talk later
08:48 Joubu         #info Next meeting: 23 April 2020, 15 UTC
08:48 Joubu         ok ok nevermind everybody
08:48 Joubu         #endmeeting
08:48 huginn        Meeting ended Thu Apr 16 08:48:34 2020 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
08:48 huginn        Minutes:        http://meetings.koha-community.org/2020/development_irc_meeting_15_april_2020.2020-04-16-08.45.html
08:48 huginn        Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2020/development_irc_meeting_15_april_2020.2020-04-16-08.45.txt
08:48 huginn        Log:            http://meetings.koha-community.org/2020/development_irc_meeting_15_april_2020.2020-04-16-08.45.log.html
08:48 cait1         I think you are right :) it just feels like Wednesday
08:48 ashimema[m]   Poop.. I had my days mix d
08:49 cait1         welcome to the club...
08:50 Joubu         I need the "next meeting line" for the script to create everything for next meeting. But I think you got it
08:51 cait1         yep, thx Joubu :)
08:51 cait1         should have waited with my questions until you were finished :)
08:59 John042       I found in internet this guide: https://bywatersolutions.com/education/set-items-to-quarantine-status-upon-return , I folowed next steps and seems that is no worked
09:02 eythian       hi
09:33 cait1         spammer is at it again :(
10:17 enkidu        Hi all, If a bug is in NS position, but you think you should add something new and there is already an assignee person, what do you do? Do you directly change the bug?
10:17 enkidu        It is Bug 25138 Katrin
10:18 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25138 minor, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Terminology: Point of sale should use library instead of branch
10:19 Joubu         enkidu: add a patch
10:21 ashimema[m]   Yup, add a follow-up patch. 😀
10:44 cait1         enkidu: that's mine :)
10:45 cait1         dpeending on what it is, a follow-up is great
10:45 cait1         if you want a general change - maybe leave a comment so we coudl discuss wording :)
10:45 cait1         irc regulars?
10:45 wahanui       i guess irc regulars is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars
10:45 cait1         to help you locating people here
10:46 enkidu        it is a simple change, so we'll add a follow-up
10:46 cait1         what is it?
10:46 wahanui       it is works for reserved items ?
10:46 cait1         forget it
10:46 wahanui       cait1: I forgot it
10:48 cait1         Joubu: can you block users on bugzilla? i got 3 spam bugs from Mrbolt
10:48 enkidu        cait1: I'll ask our team. They informed me but don't know the detail.
10:49 Joubu         I can
10:50 Joubu         banned
10:56 oleonard      Hi #koha
10:56 John042       is there in KOHA raport to get all borrow history in library for X days (for example 30) ?
10:58 oleonard      have you looked here? https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library
10:58 John042       yes
10:59 oleonard      What about this one? https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Circulation#All_Circulation_Transactions_on_Date_Range_with_Patron_.26_Item_Details
11:01 John042       oleonard I want only checkin items in this list
11:05 oleonard      John042: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Circulation#Date_Wise_List_of_Checked_In_Books ?
11:06 John042       thanks for help :)
11:08 John042       there is a way to mass renew last checked books  ?
11:10 oleonard      We recently added a feature to extend due dates in bulk, but I don't think it registers renewals
11:11 John042       but I have old version of koha
11:14 oleonard      John042 in that case I don't think so
11:14 John042       okay, thank for help
11:42 tcohen        morning
11:43 tcohen        Joubu what was that message about Java ?
11:49 Joubu         tcohen: want to buy me a coffee?
11:50 tcohen        :-D
12:09 oleonard      tcohen: want to buy ME a coffee?
12:47 tcohen        oleonard I would love to
12:48 oleonard      tcohen I hope you won't be offended if I don't wait to get coffee until that is possible.
12:48 tcohen        hahahah
12:48 tcohen        please don't
12:51 Joubu         I'm first on the coffee list
12:54 tcohen        Can you send me your address plz
12:54 tcohen        Joubu you don't drink coffee :-D
12:55 Joubu         I do, sometimes
13:01 ashimema[m]   Mmm, coffee
13:08 magnuse       is this just failing for me? $ sudo koha-shell -c "prove -v t/db_dependent/DecreaseLoanHighHolds.t" kohadev
13:08 oleonard      It passes for me magnuse
13:10 magnuse       hm, weird
13:10 magnuse       thanks for testing
15:08 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_19.05_D8 build #194: SUCCESS in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D8/194/
15:10 cait1         hay_fever--
15:10 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_19.05_U18 build #193: UNSTABLE in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_U18/193/
15:21 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #188: SUCCESS in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9/188/
15:33 reiveune      bye
17:43 tuxayo        Hi :)
17:43 tuxayo        When doing test plans. To add quickly and reliably records, what do you use? (on koha-testing-docker)
17:44 tuxayo        I'm trying "catalogoing" => add => Books, Booklets, Workbooks
17:44 tuxayo        But it asks mandatorily for stuff like transcription agency....
17:45 caroline      tuxayo: I often remove the mandatory settings for these
17:45 caroline      but if you're docker is reset all the time (I don't know how docker works so i'm not sure) just write whatever
17:46 caroline      I sometimes write just "a"
17:46 tuxayo        Yeah, no issue about making sense.
17:47 caroline      Also, I sometimes import a record from another system, either through z39.50 or through download and import
17:47 tuxayo        «but if you're docker is reset all the time» Which will cause framework customization to be reset :(
17:48 tuxayo        > I sometimes import a record from another system, either through z39.50
17:48 tuxayo        Thanks I'll try that
17:48 caroline      right, I wasn't sure if docker reset the settings... if the test doesn't ask you to actually catalog a record, you can download a record from a production system you have access to and import it
17:48 caroline      I'd send you a marc file, but I work in marc21
17:52 tuxayo        Now I only work in marc21 unless the test plan will say otherwise ;)
17:52 tuxayo        I should keep few marc files from z39.50
17:52 caroline      ah I didn't know, I thought you used unimarc
17:56 tuxayo        I should update my wiki pages ^^
17:56 tuxayo        I'm unfortunately not anymore at BibLibre. Now my plan is to work independently on community stuff.
17:57 caroline      like doing sposored stuff?
17:57 tcohen        tuxayo, Joubu wrote an interesting plugin that generates random things on demand. Ask him!
17:58 tuxayo        tcohen: Thanks for the pointer :)
18:00 tuxayo        caroline: sposored in the sense of patroned. Here are some guidelines about what kind of work I have now I mind.
18:01 tuxayo        https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/User:Victor_Grousset_-_tuxayo/Community_work/Guidelines
18:02 tuxayo        Actually I could just fill my worktime with signoffs, Rmaint and some GUI tests. I should add a tl;dr at the beginning.
18:03 tcohen        tuxayo I recommend you search for tomascohen@gmail.com in bugzilla then :-D
18:03 tuxayo        Unless there are types of tasks that have more value than this. I don't think it possible for one person to exhaust these tasks ^^"
18:05 tuxayo        tcohen: hue hue hue. You mean about things to sign off?
18:05 tcohen        yes yes
18:05 tcohen        hehe
18:05 tcohen        just kidding, follow your instinct
18:09 tuxayo        tcohen: «follow your instinct» For now my instinct tells me that anything waiting a SO for more than a month won't likely be picked up quickly.
18:09 tuxayo        So I can start from there. Then go to older ones. (more and more "patch doesn't apply" when digging.
18:09 tcohen        tuxayo looking at old bugs is awesome!
18:10 tuxayo        But I need feedback on the strategy in general and on the duration (the 1 month old value)
18:11 tcohen        I'd just sort the NSO ones by age
18:11 tcohen        and look at them in order
18:11 tuxayo        That's currently my filter ^^
18:11 tcohen        just marking them 'Does not apply' is good for the dev to get back to it
18:16 tuxayo        tcohen: Indeed. So if I sum up what I have in mind is:
18:16 tuxayo        try to SO any NSO bugs which is blocker or critical.
18:16 tuxayo        SO any NSO bug major older than 1 month, from there to the older ones.
18:17 tuxayo        That should be finishable. Then go the the lower severity one, all mixed. From 1 month old to infinite.
18:17 tcohen        when I said follow your instinct, I also meant that you could feel something deserves your attention, maybe because you are familiar with the area. Also, there are some that are debatable and require more opiions in the 'In discussion' and 'Failed QA' club
18:19 tuxayo        Indeed. That was for general guidelines about how to make the most of one's worktime if not having a standing out target at a moment.
18:22 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 25131: (QA follow-up) Move test for needs_install outside the plugin <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=75f3cb5680693cfca0a0d9e57f52bfcc57ed7481>
18:22 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 25131: Skip loading API plugins if Koha is not installed <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=be618ab400bc15e4c3804ffdbdbc3e8c3e659ba3>
18:22 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 25131: Regression tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8992bb2e6f9b6eb5f9dbe96b28df62904f82bfba>
18:22 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 25131: Add C4::Context->needs_install <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2633bed5c4f5e07db0e69719c4750f03e6151782>
18:24 tuxayo        General question: is it possible to confirm a hold without having barcode on an item?
18:24 caroline      mm... I don't think so?
18:24 tuxayo        Because I lazily didn't gave them one when creating but I don't know if that doesn't screw up the test plan.
18:25 caroline      Since you have to "return" the item to confirm the hold, and you need a barcode to return an item afaik
18:25 tuxayo        Thanks caroline , I'll fix the items.
18:31 ashimema[m]   nice to see you around again tuxayo
18:32 * ashimema[m] is on leave today but will be around more tomorrow..
18:32 ashimema[m]   great to have you aboard and looking at some of the older bugs :)
18:32 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 25136: Join the 2 ifs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=665c8328d11cb3ff83c9b48e25bc583757daaf7d>
18:32 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 25136: Make PatronSelfRegistrationLibraryList only effect new registration <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dbf604e141429fb32501bc13ed74919823d8c7ee>
18:32 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 25147: AllowSelfCheckReturns is in the wrong system preference section <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8aa9f2cc078932a0a4db434f8bd793de29a8ff7b>
18:32 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 25007: (follow-up) Fix the way image check alters layout <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=429c57d8d6fd88053f2bff93465ab78f1ef82aa3>
18:32 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 25007: Check for normaalized ISBN when building Amazon link <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a348fc18e414d3d68916ae863c18344233eafdc9>
18:32 tuxayo        Thanks ashimema , happy to finally start dedicating time to Koha :)
18:33 ashimema[m]   I also tend to look at complexity a bit.. make sure I pick at least one or two a day I know I can get a quick win from and feel like I've achieved.. I either do them first and then pick an more evil one.. or I save them for the end of the day when i need something to pick me back up again after digging through  a hard one all day.
18:33 ashimema[m]   i.e. be aware of burn out and try to avoid it :)
18:33 * ashimema[m] goes for dinner
18:33 tuxayo        thanks for the tips and have a good meal ashimema  o/
18:35 caroline      tuxayo: while you're here, can I ask you if you know of any opacs that have babeltheque integrated?
18:36 caroline      we don't have any among our clients and someone is asking me for an example of what it looks like
18:38 tuxayo        caroline: my ex[1]colleagues know, I've heard the name babeltheque few times ^^"
18:38 tuxayo        [1] and future colleagues if my plan to work on Koha works :D
18:39 caroline      ok, I though you might know some off the top of your head... I'll ask someone at BL
18:39 caroline      thanks :)
18:44 caroline      found this through a 2012 (!!) blog post http://cat-bib.nimes.fr/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=531337
18:44 caroline      It's pretty neat
18:46 tuxayo        Ho, Nîmes :D
18:59 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #244: UNSTABLE in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/244/
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19:18 tuxayo        Question about koha-testing-docker: to stop the thing:
19:18 tuxayo        Can someone confirm that one must, ctrl-c in the terminal where `ku` was ran and then run `kd`
19:18 tuxayo        I'm doing it but I'm not sure if that's the expected way to using it.
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19:33 ashimema[m]   I do kd from another terminal tuxayo
19:33 ashimema[m]   I tend to use tmux and have two windows open
19:34 tuxayo        > kd from another terminal
19:34 tuxayo        Great, it also works!
19:34 ashimema[m]   One where I've run ku or whatever to bring it up. Then the second one I use to shell into the docker.. kshell etc
19:34 ashimema[m]   Once I'm done I'll exit out of the kshell and then call kd
19:34 tuxayo        Thanks for the workflow
19:35 ashimema[m]   You can shutdown from inside the kshell too I think.  Though I don't tend to think of doing that
19:35 ashimema[m]   Pleasure
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20:52 koha-jenkins  Yippee, build fixed!
20:52 wahanui       Congratulations!
20:52 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1277: FIXED in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1277/
21:24 Carmeb        very slow search results. what to do for faster. Thank you