Time Nick Message 20:45 huginn talljoy: The operation succeeded. 20:45 talljoy @later tell oleonard Got the postcard!!! thanks - very cool!! 19:39 jzairo caroline++ 19:37 Marie-Luce thanks Caroline 19:37 cait caroline++thx! 19:36 bibliobabe be well! 19:36 caroline thanks everyone! 19:36 huginn Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2020/documentation_irc_meeting_9_april_2020.2020-04-09-19.00.log.html 19:36 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2020/documentation_irc_meeting_9_april_2020.2020-04-09-19.00.txt 19:36 huginn Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2020/documentation_irc_meeting_9_april_2020.2020-04-09-19.00.html 19:36 huginn Meeting ended Thu Apr 9 19:36:38 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 19:36 caroline #endmeeting 19:36 caroline #info Next meeting: 7 May 2020, 19 UTC 19:35 cait ok for me 19:35 caroline I'd like to keep it later in the day to have a chance to catch david, is that ok? 19:35 caroline does may 7 look good? 19:34 caroline #topic Set time of next meeting 19:33 kellym will do! 19:33 caroline if I forget, write me an email! :) 19:33 kellym thank you caroline 19:33 caroline kellym: I'll write you an email to meet for the images 19:32 caroline cool! 19:32 kellym we just pushed the bulk edit due dates out- so I can write that one up. If anyone has time to meet with me on uploading images, please reach out! I have tried to follow the wiki and have failed ;( 19:32 jzairo andrew just wrote 2 blog posts on Elastic Search, Configuration and Searching ,we can add that to the manual for Elastic 19:31 cait too dark to see :) 19:31 caroline [off] omg, it just started snowing here ... -_- 19:29 caroline thx cait! :) I know you must be very busy with qa stuff with the release upon us 19:29 caroline #link https://tree.taiga.io/project/ldjamison-kohadocs-1805/epic/1117 19:28 cait ok :) 19:28 caroline #link https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&list_id=323969&namedcmd=Documentation%20To-do&remaction=run&sharer_id=13 19:28 cait I can try and help too the next few days, but a bit out of practice 19:28 caroline if anyone else wants to pitch in, there is the documentation to-do on bugzilla and the to-do on Taiga 19:28 cait we still got work, but it's changed - it seems everyone is looking for new projects 19:27 caroline I may have a bit of time in the next weeks to work on this since work is a bit slow right now with all the libraries closed 19:26 caroline #info priority on 20.05 new features 19:26 caroline so I'd really like if we could at least have the new features in the manual before the release 19:25 caroline 20.05 is coming out next month (!!!) 19:25 caroline #topic Next steps 19:24 caroline I don't think anything's been done for the guidelines 19:24 caroline #topic Content development guidelines 19:24 caroline ok moving on then 19:24 cait yep 19:22 caroline does that make sense? 19:21 caroline usually it's juste the name of the heading with -label at the end 19:21 caroline and to get the name of the label where you want to link, you have to go and open that chapter and look for the label 19:20 kellym #info Kelly McElligott ByWater Solutions 19:20 caroline Thing Heading 19:20 caroline and then 19:20 caroline like .._thing-label: 19:20 caroline there was the labeling thing, you have to put the label before the heading 19:20 kellym #Kelly McElligott ByWater Solutions 19:19 caroline I don't think so 19:19 bibliobabe kelly wasn't sure if they went through correctly - did she need to do anything differently? 19:18 cait kellym++ lucyvh++ 19:18 caroline kellym++ lucyvh++ 19:18 caroline thank you! 19:17 caroline We've gotten a couple of commits from kellym and lucyvh 19:17 caroline #topic What's been done so far 19:17 caroline (just thought of this) 19:16 caroline #action add the youtube link to the editing the koha manual wiki page 19:16 caroline anything else? 19:16 cait Marie-Luce++ :) 19:15 caroline #action Marie-Luce will check documentation bugs on bugzilla to make sure they are still relevant 19:15 caroline ok! thx Marie-Luce! 19:15 Marie-Luce I'm happy to do it 19:14 caroline #action check documentation bugs on bugzilla to make sure they are still relevant 19:14 Marie-Luce like me? 19:13 cait some might also be resolved by now and just need checking 19:13 caroline maybe a beginner could try it out 19:13 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24036 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , UpdateNotForLoanStatusOnCheckin preference requires space after colon (specify in manual) 19:13 caroline some of those seem easy enough, like bug 24036 19:12 caroline #link https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&list_id=323969&namedcmd=Documentation%20To-do&remaction=run&sharer_id=13 19:11 cait they are in documentation and I also marked them with the Manual keyword 19:11 cait I noticed some "Manual" bugs in bugzilla in a recent bug review 19:10 caroline anyone else have updates? 19:09 Marie-Luce #info Marie-Luce Laflamme, inLibro Montréal 19:08 cait bibliobabe++ :) 19:08 caroline thanks bibliobabe! 19:08 bibliobabe https://youtu.be/CY99KAliUqc 19:07 caroline anyone have the link? 19:07 caroline but, we did have a hackfest meeting so that was cool! 19:07 caroline personaly, other than adding release notes to taiga I haven't done anything docs project-related 19:06 caroline #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Documentation_Team#To_do_lists_and_projects 19:06 caroline #topic Project updates 19:05 caroline (david also) I don't think he had time to do this 19:05 caroline 3) create a demo manual with a new theme and a landing page 19:04 caroline I've seen a lot of them in the release notes, so he must have passed on the message 19:04 caroline 2) ask devs to write release note text in their bugs (that was david) 19:04 cait caroline++ 19:04 caroline 1) add release notes to taiga (done up to yesterday!) 19:03 caroline ok so action points from last meeting were 19:03 caroline #topic Review of action points 19:01 georgew #info George Williams, Northeast Kansas Library System 19:01 bibliobabe #info Donna Bachowski, ByWater 19:01 caroline #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inlibro 19:01 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany 19:00 caroline Introductions (please use "#info" in front of your introduction to have it show up in the automatic minutes 19:00 caroline #topic Introductions 19:00 caroline #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Documentation_IRC_meeting_9_April_2020 19:00 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'documentation_irc_meeting_9_april_2020' 19:00 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 19:00 huginn Meeting started Thu Apr 9 19:00:23 2020 UTC. The chair is caroline. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:00 caroline #startmeeting Documentation IRC meeting 9 April 2020 19:00 cait yep 18:59 caroline meeting for real? 18:57 cait hm 18:57 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn. 18:57 huginn cait: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready 18:57 cait @excuse 18:41 caroline must be my fault 18:28 cait hm stange, it might be not quite right in the koha calendar 18:28 cait it thought i had missed it too! 18:27 cait oh good 18:21 caroline phew! thanks george! 18:21 caroline you're right! 18:21 georgew says that it's at 1900 UTC 18:21 georgew https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Documentation_IRC_meeting_9_April_2020 18:21 caroline ah, it was at 1pm in my calendar and it is now pas 2... I'll doblee check 18:20 georgew I thought the docs meeting started in about 40 minutes 18:19 caroline ah crap did I miss the docs meeting? 17:24 ashimema[m] Oh really.. did I miss it 17:24 wahanui meeting is over :) 17:24 ashimema[m] meeting? 16:10 oleonard enkidu: Understandable. It would probably be good to share a proposal with the koha-devel list before starting any development. 15:56 enkidu hi oleonard, we'll try to keep both, but I am not sure how to do yet :) maybe our dev team know. 15:26 oleonard-away enkidu: How do you think you'll handle the two options? Keep both available? Make it a configuration or a preference? 15:24 Joubu ashimema[m]: ok thanks, will try tomorrow 15:15 ashimema[m] subclassing seems to have done the trick 15:15 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25040 blocker, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Problematic current_timestamp syntax generated by DBIx::Class::Schema::Loader 15:15 ashimema[m] just submitted a new patch for bug 25040 15:15 ashimema[m] Joubu around? 15:01 reiveune bye 14:53 cait1 I think the only argument against might be 'ease of backup/restore' - but i think we already have an opton in the koha-dump-thing for the other files we store outside, so that might be reusable 14:45 enkidu 2 supporters at least, I've also asked to mail list. I think we'll start to write this patch. 14:39 tcohen I would support that 14:38 tcohen and also incremental backups 14:38 tcohen it allows to handle them more efficiently file access vs. DB connection and data transfer tp the controller 14:37 tcohen images should be put on the filesystem,. generally 14:24 cait1 it makes sense to me to move them out of the db - but it woudl probably require other changes like making sure the backup script take the directory into account etc? 14:22 Joubu Maybe you should ask the ML if someone else has the need for that? 14:14 enkidu There is also possibility to put images in different disk, this will lead disk I/O performance. 14:12 enkidu s/abd/and 14:12 enkidu also it gives oppurtunity for different backup strategy, different for db abd patron images. 14:10 enkidu In huge libraries storage in a database will cause some db issues, like backup/restore performance etc. 14:09 Joubu What is the use case? Why would it be better? 14:09 enkidu Hence, we'd like to write a patch to make possibility of saving patron images in a directory. What do you think about this? 14:08 enkidu hey devs, I'd like to ask something about patron images. Instead of putting patron images into database we prefer to save them in the directory in some cases. 14:06 enkidu tcohen I had also updated vagrant maybe error is relevant with this. 13:12 tcohen (macOS here, though) 13:12 tcohen that's usually to blame 13:12 tcohen not the one from the distro 13:12 tcohen try to get the latest vagrant 13:12 tcohen enkidu I've just started a kohadevbox just because 12:18 oleonard Hi #koha 11:03 enkidu Thanks, I'll try. 11:01 Joubu koha-testing-docker is https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker 11:00 wahanui koha-testing-docker is even more awesome... 11:00 Joubu koha-testing-docker? 11:00 Joubu most of the devs moved to koha-testing-docker 10:59 enkidu Hi all, anyone tried Virtualbox 6 version in kohadevbox? I tried it didn't work. 10:56 Joubu ashimema[m]: current_timestamp - what do we do? 10:50 khall thanks Joubu! 10:49 Joubu ok, will amend your patch 10:48 khall old habits die hard :) 10:47 khall Joubu you are right 10:46 Joubu s/you/we 10:46 Joubu We had the discussion at the time you push the method, and it seems that "suggester" is the correct English word 10:46 Joubu Do you think suggester should be suggestor? 10:46 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22778 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Suggestions with no "suggester" can cause errors 10:46 Joubu khall: on bug 22778 you wrote a couple of times "suggestor", is that expected? 09:05 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 09:05 Joubu @later tell amoyano forget that, morning... got it know, will have a look 09:00 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 09:00 Joubu @later tell amoyano do you remember the bug number you wanted to point me out yesterday? There is no patch from me on 25086 and 23924 08:40 nugged morning! :) (very late morning here, Oulu/FI :) ) 08:39 nugged ashimema[m]: 07:33 ashimema[m] Morning #koha 07:04 wahanui kia ora, alex_a 07:04 alex_a Bonjour 06:37 reiveune hello