Time  Nick          Message
20:45 huginn        talljoy: The operation succeeded.
20:45 talljoy       @later tell oleonard Got the postcard!!!  thanks - very cool!!
19:39 jzairo        caroline++
19:37 Marie-Luce    thanks Caroline
19:37 cait          caroline++thx!
19:36 bibliobabe    be well!
19:36 caroline      thanks everyone!
19:36 huginn        Log:            http://meetings.koha-community.org/2020/documentation_irc_meeting_9_april_2020.2020-04-09-19.00.log.html
19:36 huginn        Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2020/documentation_irc_meeting_9_april_2020.2020-04-09-19.00.txt
19:36 huginn        Minutes:        http://meetings.koha-community.org/2020/documentation_irc_meeting_9_april_2020.2020-04-09-19.00.html
19:36 huginn        Meeting ended Thu Apr  9 19:36:38 2020 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
19:36 caroline      #endmeeting
19:36 caroline      #info Next meeting: 7 May 2020, 19 UTC
19:35 cait          ok for me
19:35 caroline      I'd like to keep it later in the day to have a chance to catch david, is that ok?
19:35 caroline      does may 7 look good?
19:34 caroline      #topic Set time of next meeting
19:33 kellym        will do!
19:33 caroline      if I forget, write me an email! :)
19:33 kellym        thank you caroline
19:33 caroline      kellym: I'll write you an email to meet for the images
19:32 caroline      cool!
19:32 kellym        we just pushed the bulk edit due dates out- so I can write that one up. If anyone has time to meet with me on uploading images, please reach out!  I have tried to follow the wiki and have failed ;(
19:32 jzairo        andrew just wrote 2 blog posts on Elastic Search, Configuration and Searching ,we can add that to the manual for Elastic
19:31 cait          too dark to see :)
19:31 caroline      [off] omg, it just started snowing here ... -_-
19:29 caroline      thx cait! :) I know you must be very busy with qa stuff with the release upon us
19:29 caroline      #link https://tree.taiga.io/project/ldjamison-kohadocs-1805/epic/1117
19:28 cait          ok :)
19:28 caroline      #link https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&list_id=323969&namedcmd=Documentation%20To-do&remaction=run&sharer_id=13
19:28 cait          I can try and help too the next few days, but a bit out of practice
19:28 caroline      if anyone else wants to pitch in, there is the documentation to-do on bugzilla and the to-do on Taiga
19:28 cait          we still got work, but it's changed - it seems everyone is looking for new projects
19:27 caroline      I may have a bit of time in the next weeks to work on this since work is a bit slow right now with all the libraries closed
19:26 caroline      #info priority on 20.05 new features
19:26 caroline      so I'd really like if we could at least have the new features in the manual before the release
19:25 caroline      20.05 is coming out next month (!!!)
19:25 caroline      #topic Next steps
19:24 caroline      I don't think anything's been done for the guidelines
19:24 caroline      #topic Content development guidelines
19:24 caroline      ok moving on then
19:24 cait          yep
19:22 caroline      does that make sense?
19:21 caroline      usually it's juste the name of the heading with -label at the end
19:21 caroline      and to get the name of the label where you want to link, you have to go and open that chapter and look for the label
19:20 kellym        #info Kelly McElligott ByWater Solutions
19:20 caroline      Thing Heading
19:20 caroline      and then
19:20 caroline      like .._thing-label:
19:20 caroline      there was the labeling thing, you have to put the label before the heading
19:20 kellym        #Kelly McElligott ByWater Solutions
19:19 caroline      I don't think so
19:19 bibliobabe    kelly wasn't sure if they went through correctly - did she need to do anything differently?
19:18 cait          kellym++ lucyvh++
19:18 caroline      kellym++ lucyvh++
19:18 caroline      thank you!
19:17 caroline      We've gotten a couple of commits from kellym and lucyvh
19:17 caroline      #topic What's been done so far
19:17 caroline      (just thought of this)
19:16 caroline      #action add the youtube link to the editing the koha manual wiki page
19:16 caroline      anything else?
19:16 cait          Marie-Luce++ :)
19:15 caroline      #action Marie-Luce will check documentation bugs on bugzilla to make sure they are still relevant
19:15 caroline      ok! thx Marie-Luce!
19:15 Marie-Luce    I'm happy to do it
19:14 caroline      #action check documentation bugs on bugzilla to make sure they are still relevant
19:14 Marie-Luce    like me?
19:13 cait          some might also be resolved by now and just need checking
19:13 caroline      maybe a beginner could try it out
19:13 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24036 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , UpdateNotForLoanStatusOnCheckin preference requires space after colon (specify in manual)
19:13 caroline      some of those seem easy enough, like bug 24036
19:12 caroline      #link https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&list_id=323969&namedcmd=Documentation%20To-do&remaction=run&sharer_id=13
19:11 cait          they are in documentation and I also marked them with the Manual keyword
19:11 cait          I noticed some "Manual" bugs in bugzilla in a recent bug review
19:10 caroline      anyone else have updates?
19:09 Marie-Luce    #info Marie-Luce Laflamme, inLibro Montréal
19:08 cait          bibliobabe++ :)
19:08 caroline      thanks bibliobabe!
19:08 bibliobabe    https://youtu.be/CY99KAliUqc
19:07 caroline      anyone have the link?
19:07 caroline      but, we did have a hackfest meeting so that was cool!
19:07 caroline      personaly, other than adding release notes to taiga I haven't done anything docs project-related
19:06 caroline      #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Documentation_Team#To_do_lists_and_projects
19:06 caroline      #topic Project updates
19:05 caroline      (david also) I don't think he had time to do this
19:05 caroline      3) create a demo manual with a new theme and a landing page
19:04 caroline      I've seen a lot of them in the release notes, so he must have passed on the message
19:04 caroline      2) ask devs to write release note text in their bugs (that was david)
19:04 cait          caroline++
19:04 caroline      1) add release notes to taiga (done up to yesterday!)
19:03 caroline      ok so action points from last meeting were
19:03 caroline      #topic Review of action points
19:01 georgew       #info George Williams, Northeast Kansas Library System
19:01 bibliobabe    #info Donna Bachowski, ByWater
19:01 caroline      #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inlibro
19:01 cait          #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany
19:00 caroline      Introductions (please use "#info" in front of your introduction to have it show up in the automatic minutes
19:00 caroline      #topic Introductions
19:00 caroline      #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Documentation_IRC_meeting_9_April_2020
19:00 huginn        The meeting name has been set to 'documentation_irc_meeting_9_april_2020'
19:00 huginn        Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
19:00 huginn        Meeting started Thu Apr  9 19:00:23 2020 UTC.  The chair is caroline. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
19:00 caroline      #startmeeting Documentation IRC meeting 9 April 2020
19:00 cait          yep
18:59 caroline      meeting for real?
18:57 cait          hm
18:57 wahanui       i already had it that way, huginn.
18:57 huginn        cait: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
18:57 cait          @excuse
18:41 caroline      must be my fault
18:28 cait          hm stange, it might be not quite right in the koha calendar
18:28 cait          it thought i had missed it too!
18:27 cait          oh good
18:21 caroline      phew! thanks george!
18:21 caroline      you're right!
18:21 georgew       says that it's at 1900 UTC
18:21 georgew       https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Documentation_IRC_meeting_9_April_2020
18:21 caroline      ah, it was at 1pm in my calendar and it is now pas 2... I'll doblee check
18:20 georgew       I thought the docs meeting started in about 40 minutes
18:19 caroline      ah crap did I miss the docs meeting?
17:24 ashimema[m]   Oh really.. did I miss it
17:24 wahanui       meeting is over :)
17:24 ashimema[m]   meeting?
16:10 oleonard      enkidu: Understandable. It would probably be good to share a proposal with the koha-devel list before starting any development.
15:56 enkidu        hi oleonard, we'll try to keep both, but I am not sure how to do yet :) maybe our dev team know.
15:26 oleonard-away enkidu: How do you think you'll handle the two options? Keep both available? Make it a configuration or a preference?
15:24 Joubu         ashimema[m]: ok thanks, will try tomorrow
15:15 ashimema[m]   subclassing seems to have done the trick
15:15 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25040 blocker, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Problematic current_timestamp syntax generated by DBIx::Class::Schema::Loader
15:15 ashimema[m]   just submitted a new patch for bug 25040
15:15 ashimema[m]   Joubu around?
15:01 reiveune      bye
14:53 cait1         I think the only argument against might be 'ease of backup/restore' - but i think we already have an opton in the koha-dump-thing for the other files we store outside, so that might be reusable
14:45 enkidu        2 supporters at least, I've also asked to mail list. I think we'll start to write this patch.
14:39 tcohen        I would support that
14:38 tcohen        and also incremental backups
14:38 tcohen        it allows to handle them more efficiently file access vs. DB connection and data transfer tp the controller
14:37 tcohen        images should be put on the filesystem,. generally
14:24 cait1         it makes sense to me to move them out of the db - but it woudl probably require other changes like making sure the backup script take the directory into account etc?
14:22 Joubu         Maybe you should ask the ML if someone else has the need for that?
14:14 enkidu        There is also possibility to put images in different disk, this will lead disk I/O performance.
14:12 enkidu        s/abd/and
14:12 enkidu        also it gives oppurtunity for different backup strategy, different for db abd patron images.
14:10 enkidu        In huge libraries storage in a database will cause some db issues, like backup/restore performance etc.
14:09 Joubu         What is the use case? Why would it be better?
14:09 enkidu        Hence, we'd like to write a patch to make possibility of saving patron images in a directory. What do you think about this?
14:08 enkidu        hey devs, I'd like to ask something about patron images. Instead of putting patron images into database we prefer to save them in the directory in some cases.
14:06 enkidu        tcohen I had also updated vagrant maybe error is relevant with this.
13:12 tcohen        (macOS here, though)
13:12 tcohen        that's usually to blame
13:12 tcohen        not the one from the distro
13:12 tcohen        try to get the latest vagrant
13:12 tcohen        enkidu I've just started  a kohadevbox just because
12:18 oleonard      Hi #koha
11:03 enkidu        Thanks, I'll try.
11:01 Joubu         koha-testing-docker is https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker
11:00 wahanui       koha-testing-docker is even more awesome...
11:00 Joubu         koha-testing-docker?
11:00 Joubu         most of the devs moved to koha-testing-docker
10:59 enkidu        Hi all, anyone tried Virtualbox 6 version in kohadevbox? I tried it didn't work.
10:56 Joubu         ashimema[m]: current_timestamp - what do we do?
10:50 khall         thanks Joubu!
10:49 Joubu         ok, will amend your patch
10:48 khall         old habits die hard :)
10:47 khall         Joubu you are right
10:46 Joubu         s/you/we
10:46 Joubu         We had the discussion at the time you push the method, and it seems that "suggester" is the correct English word
10:46 Joubu         Do you think suggester should be suggestor?
10:46 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22778 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Suggestions with no "suggester" can cause errors
10:46 Joubu         khall: on bug 22778 you wrote a couple of times "suggestor", is that expected?
09:05 huginn        Joubu: The operation succeeded.
09:05 Joubu         @later tell amoyano forget that, morning... got it know, will have a look
09:00 huginn        Joubu: The operation succeeded.
09:00 Joubu         @later tell amoyano do you remember the bug number you wanted to point me out yesterday? There is no patch from me on 25086 and 23924
08:40 nugged        morning! :) (very late morning here, Oulu/FI :) )
08:39 nugged        ashimema[m]:
07:33 ashimema[m]   Morning #koha
07:04 wahanui       kia ora, alex_a
07:04 alex_a        Bonjour
06:37 reiveune      hello