Time  Nick             Message
06:06 kohaputti        mtj, hi, do you set the -D/--distribution flag when building koha packages with build-git-snapshot?
06:07 kohaputti        the default is squeeze-dev version so that sounds strange
06:29 kohaputti        wiki down?
06:30 kohaputti        maybe just slow, loaded after waiting a minute
06:58 alex_a           Bonjour
07:00 ashimema         Morning #Koha
07:08 eythian          hi
07:08 wahanui          kia ora, eythian
07:12 marcelr          hi #koha
07:13 eythian          hoi marcelr
07:14 marcelr          hi eythian still stuck in amsterdam
07:14 marcelr          >
07:14 marcelr          ?
07:15 eythian          marcelr: yep
07:15 marcelr          no canal rides now..
07:15 eythian          no, which is a pity as the weather just got good
07:15 eythian          but also, I have no boat anyway
07:15 marcelr          which is a minor detail
07:22 eythian          marcelr: how's things up your way?
07:23 marcelr          nothing to complain here; just keep the 1,5m
08:29 mtj              kohaputti: hmm, yes, it should be updated to jessie... i dont use the build-git-snapshot script myself,  but run pbuild manually from the cli
08:29 kohaputti        ok, I build using stretch and it seemed to work
08:29 kohaputti        jessie is not supported anymore AFAIK
08:29 kohaputti        buster and stretch are the only ones receiving security updates I think
08:32 ashimema         Jessie is still supported as an LTS until end of May as far as I'm aware..
08:32 ashimema         I intended to drop Koha support for Jessie with the 20.05 release
08:32 mtj              https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Using
08:33 mtj              'The current LTS version is Debian 8 "Jessie" and will be supported from 2018-06-17 to 2020-06-30.'
08:40 mtj              i like ashimema's idea, i think we should wait until the start of a new release cycle to drop jessie/deb8 support
08:41 mtj              ..rather than dropping support halfway thru a release cycle
08:42 mtj              kohaputti: i have used 'build-git-snapshot -D' in the past, and it worked really well :)
08:43 kohaputti        mtj, regarding bug 25068 – I think it is safe to just drop the inclusion of etc/searchengine dir? The default config files are added to koha package through admin/searchengine and if one wants to change those then one must create a new directory named searchenginge under /etc/koha
08:43 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25068 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , koha-common build error caused by missing /etc/searchengine
08:49 mtj              kohaputti: thanks for the info, ill do some testing ^
08:56 mtj              hmm, curious... does ES use the /etc/searchengine dir
09:05 kohaputti        mtj, I have not checked that, but it uses it in our koha fork where we have backported es patches from community master
09:05 kohaputti        mtj, and not etc/searchengine but /etc/koha/searchengine
09:40 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 24492: (RM follow-up) Varaible name corretion <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f2efa1898db8b4d8d73bbc99de95571815561750>
09:58 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 4944: DBRev 19.12.00.064 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=57333cda12111dd9582eabaa06069eda2dd154f5>
09:58 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 22534: DBRev 19.12.00.063 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8cec8d548ce2924eaf4cc9a668ed7f9b7258460e>
09:58 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 24964: Restore pagination for patrons for owner/users of funds <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=25fa93a40683870c0e9c0fd96d839878aa2229c6>
09:58 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 4944: Do not rely on the values from cache during the update DB process <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7fe2c9147b6dd7a53969204586ca7b7460e30a05>
09:58 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 4944: Add OpacNoItemTypeImages system preference <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=27dd3feafde45c4a949d63829035885e995120f2>
09:58 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 22534: Added syspref for defining what guarantee fields are pre filled <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dd0d2fa1c99126de9942ca7802baf18a42c2680e>
09:58 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 24699: Split items.uri in OPAC detail view <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=26d4b7fd5e35f784f951c4f9e9bb084a9f4612a4>
09:58 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 16547: Do not display "multi holds" view if only one is selected <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=93244efa3cbb66ff9e98d1eb4871da56a7565e5f>
09:58 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 24183: Add before_send_messages hook <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8a56f176c083f7156584d07af7650162d13814e2>
10:03 kohaputti        is it okay to sign-off patches that we have sponsored but someone else has written?
10:03 kohaputti        nothing mentioned about this situation in https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_workflow#Rules
10:06 Joubu            yes kohaputti
10:06 kohaputti        cool
11:05 oleonard         Hi #koha
11:23 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 4461: DBRev 19.12.00.066 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ce940939d445aad121a6b48f72c6c93bd79c0157>
11:23 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 4461: Use inbound_email_address to know if we display the dropdown list <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a5301a99ab015423fe9315eb5e7ccbf25aa9f118>
11:23 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 4461: Extend problem_reports.problempage to TEXT <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0885344e8056f34dd2cd9f38626fcaf321dda961>
11:23 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 4461: dbic schema update <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bbb72bbd8d0b43c5b16401ee3c27a60fcc089093>
11:23 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 4461: Hide link if KohaAdminEmailAddress is not set <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fb1bdea6d1eefba754d0eb384a8c2e4b03ffd150>
11:23 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 4461: Correctly deal with encoding/escaping chars <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c98d6f14ee588e5648c97ad75dfa07d0a719739f>
11:23 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 4461: Fix OPAC link from staff <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d6134c29174494e5fd85cb1d3c2a8f733c769a8f>
11:23 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 4461: get_effective_email has been renamed inbound_email_address <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=01c3067a7ca66e358b89ddf34eb08b48df0c5d1b>
11:23 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 4461: Checks on library email before enqueuing letter <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b8b2301f1320c2b7978b202cd1d196ae838dd8b5>
11:23 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 4461: Fix status and borrowernumber fields in problem_reports and more <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3509f9cff86da2faea2ccc53ecdd0fdee70366c5>
11:23 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 4461: Update license statements <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f12da2c1dd7333578324b2e9b6a5e78190a1e7f6>
11:23 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 4461: DBIC Schema Files <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dcc93ec356dbc5a4a94b3e9f63a9c4073a3f4176>
11:23 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 4461: (follow-up) Add missing relationship accessor <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fefb95b2e7cba0a0bfd47eacae92c1319ad5d496>
11:23 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 4461: Manage problem reports on the staff client <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=185adc167433133626710edd296555db2d27865c>
11:23 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 4461: Add problem reports link to mainpage and admin home <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=12d2d3f69bbd04889e21ccd4568a1b40dadfad2c>
11:23 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 4461: Adding user flags for managing OPAC problem reports <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c95ae98d6085495e055d6d6775fb8e0acc1e1cc5>
11:23 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 4461: Use get_effective_email from bug 22823 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=282b85ef69b7e1fb55409d609e870832383ef710>
11:23 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 4461: Drop 'from_address' use 'reply_address' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fc8f2d261bbf6a1850c9f8fa2de230550e27a616>
11:23 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 4461: Remove hard requirement on OpacKohaUrl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7de7d4095a6092bc4b3dacd1f2e3b5c616fc572f>
11:23 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 4461: Better error handling <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ffb5a071cbf8a5d54ecfcf26994fd0349b994180>
11:27 marcelr          bug 4461
11:27 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4461 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Pushed to master , Context-sensitive report a problem screen
11:34 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 20754: DBRev 19.12.00.067 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c80ced404fa0eff291509b42280c81b7d23d0ad6>
11:34 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 24604: Add 'Pay' button under Transactions tab in patron accounting <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=da3606ac3ff10df6fb111d96070d6d33d0b37f34>
11:34 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 20754: DB revision to remove double accepted shares <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=875108d46e0dacec4221261a29e680023fa5167d>
12:04 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 4944: (RM follow-up) Add OpacNoItemTypeImages to UsageStats test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f8d173cb1529f02dc1be860189583e9cc642096f>
12:10 cait2            interesting, the test didn't show up in my searches
12:10 ashimema         i happens
12:11 cait2            yeah, still wondering how it slipped
12:11 cait2            probably hit after all the po files in my gep :)
12:11 cait2            hid
12:13 magnuse          grep --exclude=*.po ;-)
12:13 cait2            yeah - i always lose that one :) saving again!
12:16 * ashimema       uses ack instead of grep
12:20 magnuse          grep --exclude=*.{po,js,tt} even
12:20 * magnuse        never used ack
12:21 ashimema         bug 25040
12:21 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25040 blocker, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Problematic current_timestamp syntax generated by DBIx::Class::Schema::Loader
12:24 ashimema         ack or ack-grep is ike grep on steroids for code
12:25 * magnuse        will check that out
12:30 * Joubu          always uses `git grep` when working with Koha
12:34 ashimema         any friendly QA person want to QA bug 25040.. would be great to get dbic builds on teh sandboxes working consistently
12:34 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25040 blocker, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Problematic current_timestamp syntax generated by DBIx::Class::Schema::Loader
12:49 cait2            Joubu: me too - doesn't it work almost the same for syntax?
12:51 Joubu            yes
13:22 tcohen           morning
13:22 ashimema         mornin'
13:23 caroline_catlady good morning!
13:23 oleonard         Hi all
13:54 marcelr          ashimema: could you add bug 22437 to your 20.05 targets or priorities ?
13:54 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22437 major, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Subsequent authority merges in cron may cause biblios to lose authority information
13:54 caroline_catlady Hi all, do you know what is the difference between closing a budget and making it inactive?
13:54 caroline_catlady Does closing a budget make it inactive?
13:54 cait2            it#s the same
13:54 cait2            only 'locking# is different
13:55 cait2            closing sets the inactive flag i think
13:55 caroline_catlady I had a client with a budget with no unreceived orders and she couldn't close the budget because there were no unreceived orders...
13:55 caroline_catlady Seems weird to me
13:57 caroline_catlady We had to edit the budget and make it inactive. I would've thought closing it would make it inactive
13:59 cait2            hm maybe i am confusing things
13:59 cait2            closing might be the endof year rollover then
14:00 cait2            it can only work when there are open orders
14:00 cait2            sorry
14:00 cait2            it was me being wrong
14:00 cait2            closing = you change the open orders to be for next years budget, so that the encumbered amounts move from the old to the new budget
14:06 caroline_catlady I'll add a bug to explain the distinction in the manual
14:18 whally           Hey @all hopefully u and your family members are all up and fit. xxx
14:20 cait2            caroline_catlady: i wonder if we should rename from close to something more specific
14:20 cait2            but not sure if there is a good term
14:22 whally           i want to address my question from a few weeks ago. I wasn't able to get the debugger working (espacially in Komodo) is there someone online who has a little bit of knowledge on debugging?
14:22 caroline_catlady Or if we should make "close" also make it inactive? (close = roll over pending orders + inactive)
14:23 caroline_catlady I don't know accounting terms for closing budgets
14:31 cait2            caroline_catlady: you can do that ptionally i think
14:31 cait2            when closing
14:31 cait2            i seem to remember a checkbox
14:31 cait2            whally: sorry, neither using the debugger nor komodo
14:31 cait2            tcohen: is debugger something you know about?
14:32 whally           crait thanks so far. Last time tcohen and joubu helped me a lot
14:33 whally           cait2 sorry
14:34 cait2            all good :)
14:34 cait2            you coudl also try asking on the mailing list - bigger audience
14:34 cait2            koha-devel would be good for this topic i think
14:37 tcohen           sorry babysitting in the morningsa, mostly
14:49 whally           hi tcohen we wrote a few weeks ago (11th of March - to be exactly). despite your help, i wasn't able to get the debugger up and debugging.
14:51 Joubu            whally: please write something to koha-devel, with what you tried and the problems you faced
14:54 whally           joubu thats a good idea. At least i set up a computer especially for throwing a view on the problem. May be thats faster then explaining and writing a lot of mails.
20:25 hayley           morning alexbuckley rangi kathryn, can't connect to Catalyst channels, are you having this issue at all?
20:25 kathryn          hi hayley, we are all in there
20:25 oleonard         Oooo.. shunned
20:25 kathryn          locked out!
20:25 hayley           they kicked me out! :o
20:25 hayley           hehe
20:26 kathryn          hi oleonard :)
20:27 rangi            nope
20:27 rangi            hayley: you could try connect direct, without the bouncer
20:27 oleonard         don't feel bad hayley they never let me in either ;)
20:28 hayley           rangi could you pm me the deets
20:28 hayley           I can't remember the url
20:28 hayley           heh oleonard
21:02 oleonard         I submitted a patch on a bug with 10 votes! Do I get extra internet-points?
21:02 cait             yep
21:02 cait             53
21:02 oleonard         Yes!
21:13 kidclamp         oleonard++
21:42 tcohen           oleonard++
21:51 rangi            hayley: now it just kicked me off
21:52 hayley           yes me too interestingly
21:52 kathryn          me too
21:52 alexbuckley      same
21:53 rangi            ah theres an email
21:53 hayley           aha!
21:54 hayley           shall we move to rocketchat?
21:54 kathryn          I'm in there
21:54 cait             hm?
21:55 kathryn          sorry cait we hijacked here bc we all got chucked out of our internal irc
21:55 kathryn          moving to another channel now :)
21:55 kathryn          also hi!
21:55 cait             hi :)