Time Nick Message 00:45 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U18 build #58: UNSTABLE in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U18/58/ 00:46 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D8 build #62: UNSTABLE in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D8/62/ 00:56 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D9 build #59: UNSTABLE in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D9/59/ 01:19 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U18 build #59: STILL UNSTABLE in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U18/59/ 01:22 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 01:22 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D8 build #63: FIXED in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D8/63/ 01:43 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D9 build #60: STILL UNSTABLE in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D9/60/ 01:53 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U18 build #60: STILL UNSTABLE in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U18/60/ 02:00 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D8 build #64: SUCCESS in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D8/64/ 02:28 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U18 build #61: STILL UNSTABLE in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U18/61/ 02:29 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D9 build #61: STILL UNSTABLE in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D9/61/ 02:37 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D8 build #65: SUCCESS in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D8/65/ 03:02 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U18 build #62: STILL UNSTABLE in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U18/62/ 03:16 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D9 build #62: STILL UNSTABLE in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D9/62/ 07:38 marcelr hi #koha 07:38 reiveune hello 07:40 * magnuse waves 07:43 magnuse gah, ILLOpacbackends was an improvement, but what if you don't want to have any ill backends active in the opac? 08:04 alex_a Bonjour 08:13 ashimema[m] Dear Jenkins.. why do you fail so randomly and inconsistently.. it makes resolving the failures incredibly difficult. 08:22 marcelr hi ashimema[m] do we still have random failures? 08:27 magnuse sounds like it... 08:32 cait morning all 08:32 marcelr o/ 08:34 magnuse hiya cait 08:35 ashimema[m] mm, not xslt ones though now 08:35 ashimema[m] I think the Jenkins nodes are fairly low spec and we sometimes end up with timing issues 08:45 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #736: STILL UNSTABLE in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/736/ 08:55 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23354: (RM follow-up) Correction for cash register selection <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8d8c5f7311820ff87e29be52d2290c5686454b94> 09:05 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23354: (RM follow-up) Correction for cash register selection <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=98c53cd06490ca0ae2cf1c96601ed35365e5b42a> 09:07 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 09:07 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #192: FIXED in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/192/ 09:25 * ashimema[m] is currently debating when it's OK to add basic logic in the template.. 09:25 ashimema[m] still only display logic.. like summing variables 09:28 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #113: STILL UNSTABLE in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/113/ 09:46 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 09:46 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #657: FIXED in 50 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/657/ 09:56 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 09:56 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #737: FIXED in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/737/ 10:00 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #166: SUCCESS in 53 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/166/ 10:31 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #193: SUCCESS in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/193/ 10:35 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1195: SUCCESS in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1195/ 10:50 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #114: STILL UNSTABLE in 50 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/114/ 11:09 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #658: UNSTABLE in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/658/ 11:17 ashimema[m] cait 11:22 cait yes? 11:22 cait you got to say it three times actually... 11:24 ashimema[m] oops 11:37 saa We are using our OPAC through https and we enabled google indic transliteration but it seems it is not working can anyone help to solve the issue 11:37 saa https://opac.ncl.res.in is our url for koha 13:06 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24369: DBRev 19.12.00.036 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=29bca18047f1d08e6408fbf21e5806cbedcae81c> 13:06 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24492: Update GPL license <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8f7a3bf5eaec24a5de642ba2fe95c0bf7d663af9> 13:06 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24552: Be compatible with Search::Elasticsearch 6.00 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=33f122621adcf94ecdbf28dad9a1017d6f9d5c79> 13:07 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22615: Fix perlcritic <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=764053f2f40c3f2d0d54bc4a726764f296fd3a35> 13:07 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22615: Add endpoint for getting one ill backend <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=81655e7dbf6d769219260828b6f4781435efca1c> 13:07 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24369: Add CORS support to the API <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1af4010ff7344b12c193c9beb8a33f05125e7bf7> 13:07 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24492: Add branch details page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2ff054962ed308107b406b454f1c40802ff340e3> 13:07 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24369: Add CORS support to output_with_http_headers() <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c951f8e06a8db91308b85f2610ee9a8c4d89297a> 13:07 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24369: Add AccessControlAllowOrigin syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2526bc3c9f886cd0b31878bd329097b2229faa8f> 13:07 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22615: Add /ill_backends endpoint <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=def667f7fc1b64171bec937861e34c5a94ead0d7> 13:09 * oleonard wonders how many alternate patches we can get on Bug 24803 13:09 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24803 blocker, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Signed Off , Clicking "Log in to your account" throws fatal Javascript error 13:31 kidclamp . 13:32 oleonard , 13:40 kidclamp hi #koha 13:41 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #738: UNSTABLE in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/738/ 13:41 corilynn !~ 13:41 AnnaBoten Error: "~" is not a valid command. 13:42 oleonard Not everything is about you AnnaBoten 13:43 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #167: SUCCESS in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/167/ 14:04 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #194: SUCCESS in 57 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/194/ 14:16 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 14:16 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #115: FIXED in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/115/ 14:19 ashimema[m] D10 just passed! 14:19 ashimema[m] kidclamp++ 14:19 ashimema[m] ere++ 14:19 ashimema[m] jajm++ 14:20 ashimema[m] mtj++ 14:20 ashimema[m] now just fighting with the U18 test and I should be back to a full green! 14:20 jajm \o/ 14:20 jajm ashimema[m]++ 14:21 ashimema :D 14:24 magnuse community++ 14:30 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1196: SUCCESS in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1196/ 14:44 magnuse +1 14:44 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #739: STILL UNSTABLE in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/739/ 14:44 magnuse noooo... 14:46 ashimema those two are random failures.. really strugglig to kill them off.. 14:46 ashimema they always pass when I run them lcocally at the moment 15:01 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 15:01 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #659: FIXED in 56 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/659/ 15:33 Joubu ashimema: bug 24813 15:33 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24813 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , api/v1/holds.t is failing randomly 15:42 vfernandes hi #koha 15:47 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #740: STILL UNSTABLE in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/740/ 16:03 reiveune bye 19:50 wizzyrea sooo 19:50 wizzyrea question, why is an account required to look at translate.koha-community.org 19:53 caroline Maybe because if you can look, you can also modify? 19:56 caroline anyone here for the docs meeting? I don't see the usual suspects in the list 19:57 wizzyrea I've inquired about our peeps who are interested in that 19:59 wizzyrea caroline - some people might be turning up 19:59 kellym hi 19:59 cait sorry, only lurking tonight 20:00 kellym #Kelly McElligott ByWater Solutions 20:00 kellym #info Kelly McElligott ByWater Solutions 20:00 ashimema Also lurking . Just dishing up tea. Yum 20:00 caroline ok so I guess I'll start 20:00 caroline or davidnind did you want to do it? 20:01 ashimema Haha, bit early kellym.. can't see they've called startmeeting yet 20:01 caroline #startmeeting Documentation IRC meeting 5 March 2020 20:01 huginn Meeting started Thu Mar 5 20:01:39 2020 UTC. The chair is caroline. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:01 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 20:01 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'documentation_irc_meeting_5_march_2020' 20:01 caroline #chair davidnind 20:01 huginn Current chairs: caroline davidnind 20:02 davidnind coolio! 20:02 caroline #topic Introductions 20:02 caroline (please use "#info" in front of your introduction to have it show up in the automatic minutes) 20:02 caroline #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro 20:02 ashimema #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS-Europe UK 20:02 davidnind #info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand 20:02 Marie-Luce #info Marie-Luce Laflamme, inLibro 20:04 davidnind #info Apologies from Thomas Dukleth 20:04 caroline thx davidnind 20:05 davidnind #topic Review of action points 20:05 kellym #info Kelly McElligott ByWater 20:06 davidnind #info Agenda https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Documentation_IRC_meeting_5_March_2020 20:06 caroline So last meeting (back in Jan) I said to concentrate on 19.11 tasks, but now we should dive in 20.05 otherwise we won't be able to keep up 20:06 lucyvh #info Lucy Vaux-Harvey PTFS Europe 20:07 caroline I slacked a little bit on adding the tasks in taiga, but I will try to pick up the pace and go through the release notes again 20:07 caroline everyone ok with that priority? 20:08 lucyvh Yes, thx for adding to Taiga for us 20:08 caroline #info priority now is 20.05 tasks 20:08 davidnind Sounds fine to me! There are a lot of changes going through at the moment! 20:08 davidnind ashimema++ 20:09 caroline #action caroline to add release notes tasks to Taiga 20:09 caroline other action point : Change the manual terminology from "staff client" to "staff interface" (davidnind) 20:09 davidnind I will add an item to the next development meeting, asking developers to add a release note to the bug 20:09 caroline I think that was just to change it in the Content guide? 20:10 davidnind For me, I haven't yet finished changing "staff client" to "staff interface" yet, hopefully sometime by the end of next week.. 20:10 caroline ok so you're doing it everywhere? 20:10 davidnind trying to! 20:10 caroline I though it was just to change the guide, hehe! 20:10 davidnind OK, will do that as well (my bad) 20:11 caroline well, that moots the next action point I guess which was Add a task to change the terms in the manual (caroline_catlady) 20:11 davidnind Will also add to the next development meeting agenda, so developers are aware 20:12 caroline #info davidnind will finish changing all the mentions of "staff client" to "staff interface" 20:12 caroline #action davidnind will bring attention to the change at next dev meeting 20:13 caroline #action davidnind will ask developers to add a realease note note in their bugs at next dev meeting 20:13 caroline #topic Project updates 20:13 caroline #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Documentation_Team#To_do_lists_and_projects 20:14 davidnind Apologies, I've been bad, so no update on any of my projects 20:14 caroline about the wiki update, thd said he will continue after the Libre Planet convention 20:15 davidnind excellent! 20:15 davidnind Actually, I have been working on the installation guide, having "fun" trying to separate out Debian and Ubuntu differences 20:15 caroline I admit I haven't worked on my assigned projects either... I did do other things, but not that, hehe! 20:16 davidnind Me too, having fun signing off bugs (it can get a bit addictive) 20:16 caroline davidnind++ 20:17 caroline anyone else have updates they want to share? 20:17 davidnind Not that I need any more work, but was trying to think how we could create some sort of dashboard for docs (if Taiga doesn't have anything) 20:17 lucyvh Not done much, just a few Taiga tasks 20:18 caroline displaying what kind of info ? 20:19 caroline [off] ugh... cleared my cookies yesterday for a test and now I have to sign back in to every website... 20:19 davidnind Not sure yet, but number of doc bugs/taiga tasks pushed (not sure it is useful info), and have something show on the main dashboard 20:19 davidnind Still just an idea... 20:19 davidnind (which I have too many of) 20:20 caroline ideas are good :) 20:20 caroline #topic What's been done so far 20:21 caroline as previously mentioned, we got a lot of submissions from lucyvh++ 20:21 caroline I had a bit of problems merging the last ones... will have to ask a git expert 20:22 lucyvh Sorry! Do let me know if I need to do anything differently 20:22 caroline I don't think it's you 20:23 caroline It's just that I needed to rebase and usually gitlab does it automatically, but not this time 20:23 caroline in other news, rangi set up permanent links to the latest manual woo! 20:23 lucyvh OKay 20:23 davidnind Great! 20:24 caroline this was a request from the education team 20:24 caroline so you have to replace the version number with "latest" 20:24 caroline example https://koha-community.org/manual/latest/en/html/ 20:24 caroline this will go to the latest manual, in this case 19.11 20:25 caroline this is something that will have to be changed every realease so we will have to add it to our cycling workflow 20:25 lucyvh That's useful 20:26 caroline now, links in blog posts, training material, etc. will not go stale :D 20:26 davidnind #info Permanent links to the manual are now available. For example: https://koha-community.org/manual/latest/en/html/ goes to the manual page for the current version. 20:27 caroline #topic Content development guidelines 20:27 davidnind I didn't get a chance to add anything new for discussion - have several things to propose though.. 20:28 caroline #info the manual has a content development guide for vocabulary, etc 20:28 caroline trying to find the link 20:28 caroline #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Documentation_-_Content_Development_Guide 20:28 caroline hum, that's not the one I was looking for 20:29 davidnind https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Word_usage_-_A-Z 20:29 caroline that's not the one I was looking for either... where is the one with the commit message section? 20:30 caroline or did you remove it? 20:30 davidnind Here it is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_guide_for_documentation#Commit_messages 20:31 caroline oh there it is! 20:31 davidnind I will make sure there is a link to it from the content development guide 20:31 caroline #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_guide_for_documentation 20:31 caroline #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Word_usage_-_A-Z 20:32 caroline #topic Next steps 20:32 davidnind One things is internal links and not breaking across the page, for example see https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-manual/-/commit/55cbb97d976e50f224e7c6b6902ae4ef7e31d651 for an example (tools.rst line 3362/3363) 20:32 caroline I forgot a point in project updates, so I'll do it here 20:33 caroline I wanted to know if y'all had an opinion on the current manual structure? 20:33 caroline I'd like to add more "how-tos" in the manual 20:34 caroline I reached out to technical writers and they said to simply add a FAQ section (which we already have) 20:34 caroline could we add common "how-tos"/workflows at the end of each chapter maybe? 20:35 Marie-Luce it would definitely help librarians 20:36 kellym +1 20:36 davidnind +1 20:37 caroline Ok, I'll add that to the projects and see what I can add until the next meeting 20:37 davidnind I was looking at updating the theme for the docs site (https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-manual/issues/14), so as part of that I thought adding something more like a landing page with links to how tos, manual, what;s new etc (dont have an example right now) 20:37 caroline ooh I like that idea! 20:38 caroline as far as landing pages, I like the learn from Koha-US https://koha-us.org/learn/ 20:38 davidnind how tos could go in their own folder 20:38 caroline and also the bywater training page 20:39 caroline https://training.bywatersolutions.com/ 20:39 davidnind That's a good example, I have plenty book marked, but can't find the right now! 20:39 kellym I also like how Koha US has their site set up Caroline! 20:40 davidnind inLibro's one is good as well! https://inlibro.com/en/products/koha-open-source-lms/knowledge-base/ 20:40 caroline I'm biased for that one, so no opinion, lol! 20:40 kellym yes! I love that one also! So jealous 20:41 davidnind #info I will post a link to a 'demo' site with a new theme, for comment and discussion (will also add a requirements RFC to the wiki so we can pool ideas) 20:41 caroline and while were on the topic of themes, I much prefer the TOC on the translated manuals page 20:42 caroline on the left side of this for example https://translate.koha-community.org/manual/19.05/fr_CA/html/index.html 20:42 caroline you can clck on sections and they open up 20:43 caroline and it always stays on the left, you don't have to scroll back up if you need to see it again 20:43 davidnind that's good, because some pages are soooo looong! 20:43 Marie-Luce more user's friendly and easy to navigate 20:44 caroline #action davidnind will create a 'demo' manual with a new thme, landing page and an RFC to collect opinions 20:44 caroline (will hold you to that one lol) 20:45 davidnind I've got a couple locally that I'm playing around with, will make available sometime later next week 20:46 caroline cool! 20:46 caroline ok for more next steps, see the docs tasks on bugzilla and the taiga site for all new features to be documented 20:46 caroline #link https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=ASSIGNED&f1=keywords&f2=component&j_top=OR&known_name=Documentation%20To-do&list_id=317632&o1=allwords&o2=equals&query_based_on=Documentation%20To-do&query_format=advanced&v1=Manual&v2=Documentation 20:46 davidnind Also, I had a documentation workshop for Kohacon20 accepted - have added a blurb about it to the agenda. If anyone has ideas about how this could be run let me know. 20:47 caroline #link https://tree.taiga.io/project/ldjamison-kohadocs-1805/timeline 20:47 caroline and again priority is on the 20.05 new features, then enhancements 20:48 caroline #info priority is documenting 20.05 new features and then enhancements 20:48 caroline #topic Set time of next meeting 20:49 caroline I know this is late for europeans, but since davidnind is co-manager, I like to have him attend :) 20:50 davidnind Thanks! 20:50 davidnind happy to alternate to an earlier time if that would help 20:51 ashimema Sorry I didn't keep up there tonight. 20:51 caroline lucyvh, ashimema, cait, opinions? 20:51 caroline just asking if it's inconvenient for you if we keep the meeting at the same time? 20:51 ashimema I trust you guys and only really lurk and respond when asked. So don't worry too much timing wise for me 20:52 ashimema Happy with this timing 20:52 caroline lucyvh? 20:53 lucyvh This time is ok for me 20:53 davidnind we had a good turn out today 20:53 caroline wizzyrea poked all the bywater people hehe! 20:54 caroline is April 9 good? 20:54 davidnind wizzyrea++ 20:54 Marie-Luce +1 20:54 davidnind +1 20:55 kellym +1 20:55 lucyvh =1 20:55 lucyvh You know what I mean! 20:55 caroline #info Next meeting: 9 April, 2020, 19 UTC 20:55 caroline #end meeting 20:55 caroline #endmeeting 20:55 huginn Meeting ended Thu Mar 5 20:55:49 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 20:55 huginn Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2020/documentation_irc_meeting_5_march_2020.2020-03-05-20.01.html 20:55 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2020/documentation_irc_meeting_5_march_2020.2020-03-05-20.01.txt 20:55 huginn Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2020/documentation_irc_meeting_5_march_2020.2020-03-05-20.01.log.html 20:55 davidnind caroline++ 20:56 davidnind Thanks caroline 20:56 caroline thanks everyone! it was a good meeting today! 20:56 kellym caroline++ 20:56 Marie-Luce thanks Caroline 20:56 davidnind right, back to work for me, catch you all later 20:56 lucyvh thanks everyone 21:01 ashimema Thanks all