Time  Nick          Message
22:17 Pit-Work      when i was a lil one my mom was a school librarian so i would spend time there between classes, before, after etc, even when i was "sick" and she would not leave me home alone id just be in the library
22:17 corilynn      i totally grew up in a library
22:17 Pit-Work      and i kinda grew up in a library
22:17 Pit-Work      just hits me on multiple fronts as i seen people come and go from this company, low staff retention etc, but she reallyd edicated her time here to all she did
22:15 Pit-Work      i get it square footage is expensive in major cities, and not every one wants to keep that much stuff in their offices
22:14 Pit-Work      :/
22:14 corilynn      we do recon projects
22:14 corilynn      i work for a cataloging company
22:14 Pit-Work      now there is a proper archive, data sets, checkouts, with 13000 books all MARC'ed catalogued and organized and thousands of archival material
22:14 corilynn      we've seen a lot of that here
22:13 Pit-Work      when she started 7-8 years ago there was no records just random items on shelves
22:13 corilynn      ugh, that's depressing
22:13 Pit-Work      and she loses her job :/
22:13 Pit-Work      i just feel sad that i had to get it working in order to get our librarian prepped for putting data into it before the library and archive goes into cold storage indefinatelly
22:12 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24752 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Z39.50 not returning full MARC record
22:12 corilynn      Bug 24752 - Z39.50 not returning full MARC record (in case anyone has any idea...)
22:11 corilynn      nice
22:11 Pit-Work      i got itw orking literairly 10 minutes after you pasted the code and signed off
22:11 Pit-Work      i would be too
22:11 Pit-Work      hah i bet
22:11 corilynn      walked out of here and onto a plane to San Francisco this weekend, so my husband was being impatient
22:10 corilynn      sweetness
22:10 Pit-Work      was really happy
22:10 corilynn      yeah, i wouldn't think it'd need a restart
22:10 Pit-Work      no reindexing, just straight up worked :D
22:10 Pit-Work      worked like a charm no restart needed
22:10 Pit-Work      yup literairly as soon as i figured out how to get the lines from install file for msql table creation into command line msql input
22:09 corilynn      fantastic
22:09 corilynn      oh, you're welcome! Did you get it all working?
22:09 Pit-Work      creating that table in virtual shelves did the trick
22:09 Pit-Work      corilynn, Thanks again for your help last week!
21:49 corilynn      bizarre searching, in Koha...
21:46 corilynn      anyone around to talk about a REALLY BIZZARE Z39.50 issue?
19:11 oleonard      khall: I don't know off the top of my head. One of the disadvantages of the KohaTable wrapper is that it can make stuff like that harder to get to
19:09 khall         which is actually a callback function
19:09 khall         so the question is, is there a js way to modify the print button's 'customize' property
19:08 khall         the datatable is already a var, `var holdst = KohaTable("holdst", {`
19:07 khall         https://datatables.net/extensions/buttons/examples/print/customisation.html
19:07 oleonard      So the question is how to target CSS at the DataTables print view
19:06 talljoy       that won't work for the datatables 'printy thingy' according to khall
19:04 oleonard      Does that sound like what you're looking for?
19:04 oleonard      You can use a media query in custom CSS to specify it for print only : https://joshuawinn.com/css-print-media-query/
19:02 talljoy       oleonard do you know of a way to use printcss on the holds queue for printing?  we have a site that wants a 'pretty' holds queue printout.
17:23 oleonard      I guess I'll go with 0
17:22 oleonard      Haha, "# Subroutines::ProhibitExplicitReturnUndef: Got 1 violation(s)."
16:53 oleonard      ...rather than digging through an empty data structure of some kind
16:50 oleonard      But in terms of returning sensible data would you agree that returning undef would make more sense?
16:50 ashimema[m]   you are not alone finding it confusing ;)
16:50 ashimema[m]   perl is a pain for this sort of thing ;)
16:49 ashimema[m]   content is an arrayref inside the hashref by the looks
16:49 ashimema[m]   you could do OpacHeader.content.size probably
16:49 ashimema[m]   .size in that case is the number of keys in the hashref you are returning
16:47 oleonard      I started coming at the issue from the KohaNews.pm side when I saw that OpacHeader.size evaluated to "3"
16:46 ashimema[m]   check on OpacHeader.content in the template instead.. as that should be empty as such false.
16:46 ashimema[m]   or
16:45 ashimema[m]   so I'd perhaps explicitly return one of those
16:45 ashimema[m]   are all false in a boolean context. All other values are true.`
16:45 ashimema[m]   `The number 0, the strings '0' and '', the empty list "()", and "undef"
16:43 oleonard      Right
16:43 ashimema[m]   I take it there's then something like `[% IF OpacHeader`
16:41 oleonard      It should not.
16:41 oleonard      Even if there are no news items in that category "OpacHeader" evaluates as true.
16:40 oleonard      In the template: [% SET OpacHeader = KohaNews.get(...
16:40 oleonard      ashimema[m]: Looking at Koha/Template/Plugin/KohaNews.pm
16:40 ashimema[m]   return; will return the value of whatever was returned from the last function..
16:39 ashimema[m]   sort of depends on what's looking at it
16:39 ashimema[m]   erm
16:38 oleonard      ^^ Perl baby question please don't yell at me
16:36 pastebot      "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Would this be the correct way to return false if no news items were found?" (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/18853
16:14 sociales      tcohen  facilidad
16:09 reiveune      bye
16:09 tcohen        por qué querrías hacer eso?
16:09 sociales      be able to enter only with the user disable the password
16:06 oleonard      sociales: Can you explain more?
16:00 sociales      delete password at opac koha login which file modify, thanks
15:30 talljoy       hi owen!
15:29 oleonard      Hi talljoy
15:29 talljoy       good morning!
14:51 huginn        Bug 14567: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to master , Browse interface for OPAC
14:51 huginn        eythian: The operation succeeded.
14:51 eythian       @later tell cait https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14567#c38 "5) Was the C intentional?" please refer to https://perldoc.perl.org/perlpodspec.html#Pod-Formatting-Codes :)  [fixed version]
14:50 huginn        Bug 14567: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to master , Browse interface for OPAC
14:50 huginn        eythian: The operation succeeded.
14:50 eythian       @later tell cait https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14567#c38 "5) Wahttps://perldoc.perl.org/perlpodspec.html#Pod-Formatting-Codess the C intentional?" please refer to https://perldoc.perl.org/perlpodspec.html#Pod-Formatting-Codes :)
14:38 eythian       haha
14:38 cait          eythian: your toddler is in Koha now :)
14:34 ashimema[m]   aww.. it's only a babe ;)
14:33 eythian       http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=0e7f7ab051c8a23705ea802005f15877ca40d16f five years huh
14:09 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_Master_D10_Deps build #4: FAILURE in 12 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10_Deps/4/
14:00 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24742 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Can't save news item in strict mode without value in number field
14:00 oleonard      Bug 24742
14:00 cait          file a bug and temporarily remove the strict?
13:57 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_Master_D10_Deps build #3: NOW UNSTABLE in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10_Deps/3/
13:53 marcelr       it would be a nice addition
13:53 oleonard      I'll add that to the manual, "change the code." :P
13:52 marcelr       or change the code ;)
13:52 marcelr       set strict to 0 :)
13:52 marcelr       yeah seems like it
13:52 pastebot      "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Error when saving news item with no value defined for number field" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/18852
13:52 marcelr       b
13:52 marcelr       strict stumles over a non integer ?
13:51 marcelr       sql mode ?
13:51 oleonard      Okay, update: I can't edit a news item if there isn't a value in the "Appear in position" field.
13:49 marcelr       :)
13:48 tcohen        :-D
13:48 tcohen        it was a long series of flights, with two small kids
13:40 marcelr       you should not be sleepy then :)
13:39 tcohen        just got back from vacation
13:39 tcohen        muy bien, sleepy
13:39 marcelr       com esta
13:39 marcelr       hola tcohen
13:39 tcohen        hola #koha
13:36 marcelr       i liked the older one ouch
13:35 marcelr       o no
13:35 oleonard      Very Wordpress-like ;)
13:34 marcelr       need to save under Source code
13:34 marcelr       it creates one big <p> where I had several tags
13:33 marcelr       oleonard: just noticing now that the regular news editor kills my html tags when I am not alert
13:31 marcelr       even opacheader after restarting plack
13:31 oleonard      Thanks for checking marcelr
13:31 oleonard      :/
13:30 marcelr       oleonard: i can edit news items ;)
13:26 oleonard      Anyone else find that they are here in #koha?
13:23 oleonard      Guest17586: Koha is not designed to be installed via Cpanel
13:19 oleonard      Anyone else find that they can't edit news items?
13:16 Guest17586    How can I install Koha on Cpanel
12:45 huginn        oleonard: The operation succeeded.
12:45 oleonard      @later tell Joubu There may be a better way to design the final step of Bug 18127 but I don't think it should hold up the bug
12:40 enkidu        Hi all, is there any quick way making kohadevbox up-to-date other than using git fetch and git checkout origin/master?
12:38 ashimema[m]   no worries enkidu
12:31 oleonard      Hi #koha
12:23 enkidu        Joubu and ashimema[m], thanks for your quick response for yesterday bug.
12:12 ashimema[m]   hard call which way round is most annoying
12:12 ashimema[m]   the act of marking it doesn't apply gets the authors attention to say someone is interested in testing it
12:12 ashimema[m]   the bug may 'become active', if you go to test it and find it doesnt apply..
12:11 ashimema[m]   indeed
12:09 cait          only wanting to rebase when someone actually wants to test... kind of a hen and egg issue
12:09 cait          paxed: we had that - the auto-apply check, but people wanted it turned off again
12:08 paxed         although, if the bug was last changed a year or two ago, i wouldn't classify it as active.
12:04 paxed         okay
12:00 ashimema[m]   and doesn't actually help reflect if a bug is active or not
12:00 ashimema[m]   it was disabled because it created enormous amounts of noise for people
11:59 ashimema[m]   already exists paxed
11:41 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_Master_U18 build #641: STILL UNSTABLE in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/641/
11:31 paxed         someone should write automated script to go through all the "Needs SO" bugs, check that the patch applies, and if it doesn't, set bug state and post a comment with the error.
10:45 ashimema[m]   grr
10:45 ashimema[m]   * but.. on my local run.. it passed on U18
10:45 ashimema[m]   but.. on my local run.. it passed on U19
10:45 ashimema[m]   so that's twice in a row..
10:45 ashimema[m]   for U18 it did your right..
10:44 ashimema[m]   we'll wait and see if it's a rucurrent random failure
10:44 marcelr       but U18 did..
10:44 ashimema[m]   indeed.. the re-run just passed on Jenkins
10:44 marcelr       ashimema[m]: D8 didnt fail..
10:20 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_Master_U18 build #640: STILL UNSTABLE in 50 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/640/
10:09 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_Master_D8 build #719: FIXED in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/719/
10:09 koha-jenkins  Yippee, build fixed!
09:43 huginn        Joubu: The operation succeeded.
09:43 Joubu         @later tell oleonard second point only
09:42 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18127 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Needs Signoff , Add batch modified records to an existing list
09:42 ashimema[m]   bug 18127
09:42 huginn        Joubu: The operation succeeded.
09:42 Joubu         @later tell oleonard What are your thoughts about 18127 (see comment 6)?
09:33 ashimema[m]   thanks
09:32 marcelr       interesting, i will do some further testing too
09:31 ashimema[m]   so no.. exact same configs
09:30 ashimema[m]   literaly just started up a koha-testing-docker to run it
09:30 marcelr       no configuration differences?
09:30 ashimema[m]   Only difference I can think of is I ran just that test.. jenkins obviously runs them all
09:30 ashimema[m]   but as it just passed perfectly on a local koha-testing-docker I'm starting to doubt myself
09:29 ashimema[m]   I thought it was consistently failing.. sure I've run it twice on Jenkins already..
09:29 ashimema[m]   yeah..
09:29 marcelr       random failures are even worse
09:29 ashimema[m]   it just passed for me on D8 locally
09:29 ashimema[m]   I'm going to trigger a build.. see if it was a random failure
09:26 ashimema[m]   hopefully it's something obvious.. I'm sure it all passed locally when I tried it way back
09:26 ashimema[m]   thanks
09:26 marcelr       ashimema[m]: i will have a further look
09:26 marcelr       thats weird
09:25 ashimema[m]   no failure on their branches
09:25 ashimema[m]   intersetingly though.. the squashed patch you did for the rmaints seems to have worked cleanly for them
09:24 * ashimema[m] runs up a D8 docker
09:24 ashimema[m]   same tets
09:24 ashimema[m]   :(
09:24 ashimema[m]   18 is also failing though
09:24 marcelr       runs with me under D9
09:23 ashimema[m]   could be
09:23 ashimema[m]   being on debian 8 you mean
09:23 marcelr       Might D8 be the reason?
09:22 * ashimema[m] sent a long message:  < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/VZHMCAYlktbMZuZBzmmylUqX >
09:22 marcelr       the second patch btw fixes an error in testing
09:21 marcelr       what error ?
09:21 ashimema[m]   not sure why the tests are failing.
09:21 ashimema[m]   marcelr.. did I miss something in the XSLT bug..
08:55 ashimema[m]   I'm thinking to do something similar for coverage.. to save us having to remover to run it once a cycle
08:54 ashimema[m]   Indeed.. Jenkins allows scheduled builds though.. for the deps one I scheduled it to run twice a month at a random hour overnight on the two days I picked..
08:52 Joubu         a build with coverage takes around 4h :-/
08:51 Joubu         the one we kept is from May 2019
08:50 Joubu         ashimema[m]: the idea was to run the coverage once per release, then keep the build result to have the nice graph
08:45 ashimema[m]   I think we may have reduced very slightly this cycle.. I've been a little more lenient.. perhaps unduly
08:45 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_Master_D10_Deps build #2: STILL FAILING in 10 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10_Deps/2/
08:45 ashimema[m]   Also looking to do the same sort of thing with the coverage variable.. twice a month.. right now we have to add it manually and that doesn't happen very often so we don't spot test coverage trends..
08:44 marcelr       cool
08:44 ashimema[m]   Hopefully it'll mean we catch things much earlier.
08:43 ashimema[m]   I added an extra Jenkins job yesterday.. should help us catch dependency issues much earlier.. runs twice a month and basically pulls all dependancies directly from cpan so we get the latest and greatest of everything before throwing the test suit at it.
08:42 ashimema[m]   Indeed they are
08:42 ashimema[m]   D10 is soooo close now.. I can feel it. 😀
08:42 marcelr       dependencies are fun
08:42 ashimema[m]   They assume an older version of netmask which doesn't support IPv6.... But buster ships the shiny new version that does have support. 😀
08:41 marcelr       ok
08:41 ashimema[m]   Just trying to work out how to get dcooks netmask tests to pass on D10..
08:41 ashimema[m]   I'll take a look this morning
08:40 ashimema[m]   Awesome, thanks for the quick follow-up marcelr..
08:40 marcelr       xslt cleanup
08:40 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24052 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Housekeeping for bug 23290 (follow-up)
08:40 marcelr       ashimema[m]: i recommend bug 24052 for this version
08:39 ashimema[m]   bit late I reckon
08:39 ashimema[m]   bet dcook isn't around?
08:09 cait          hi marcelr
08:08 marcelr       hi cait
08:07 cait          morning all
08:04 magnuse       o/
07:54 eythian       hi
07:49 ashimema[m]   Lol.. silly autocorrect
07:37 reiveune      hello
07:25 marcelr       hi #koha
07:19 magnuse       autocorrect++
07:13 ashimema[m]   Did you just upgrade alexbuckley.. there and xslt girl loading security bug in the recent maint releases
07:10 * magnuse     waves
01:13 alexbuckley   for example in the network tab we can't see it and in all of the logs we cannot see it
01:12 alexbuckley   does anyone know if we can see if an xslt file has been picked up? the record detail page's custom xslt is not displaying and the path in the system preference looks right