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23:00 cait          @later tell lisettelatah Thx!
23:00 cait          .. she is copying owen in quick exits
23:00 lisettelatah  Have a good day everyone!
22:57 lisettelatah  I'll e-mail the folks in our consortium that I know use it, but looking at the comments I think I agree with you. From the basket summary it makes sense, from the vendor search that seems like it could slow things down to change it.
22:56 cait          it change sthe redirect after closing a basket - but since we can do that from 2 different places now... i am slightly confused if it's better or not
22:56 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9989 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Signed Off , Closing a basket without creating a basketgroup should not redirect to baskets list
22:56 cait          hm was wondering about bug 9989
22:54 lisettelatah  cait, we use purchase suggestions and at least 1 branch in our consortium uses more of it.
22:53 cait          lisettelatah: are you using acq in your library?
22:53 kidclamp      Cait++
22:53 kidclamp      Will try to hit that bug later
22:52 cait          holding back from working too much on things myself as I want to get dent into this qa queue
22:52 cait          ... still failed you for cosmetics in hope you will provdie a patch quickly
22:52 cait          I was working on the browse opac thing and my elastic reindexing was acting strange, got it working
22:51 cait          kidclamp: nothing bad
22:51 kidclamp      What'd I do cait?
22:51 cait          sounds good :)
22:50 lisettelatah  Thanks, I'll ask Tomas as well and I also asked Owen. I'm more worried about missing things on the usage than the setup, some of my notes I haven't used as much are a few years old and I feel like there might be gaps.
22:47 cait          I'll be happy to be a first tester
22:47 cait          just to be on the safe side :)
22:47 cait          i could look out for things.. but maybe you should also ask Tomas or someone more familiar with the technical side
22:47 cait          I can try - but have no experience with windows setup
22:46 lisettelatah  cait, I've been working on my devbox guide I told you about a couple of weeks ago. If I sent it to you would you be willing to proof read it for me/tell me if I'm missing things?
22:40 cait          talljoy: thx, figured it out so far - only need a tiny follow--up on one of his bugs
22:30 talljoy       he may show up later.
22:29 talljoy       kidclamp is not around
22:24 cait          ok, ere should not be
22:24 cait          or ere?
22:24 cait          kidclamp: still around?
21:59 cait          ppsst devs.... please run the QA test tools on your patches
21:44 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1153: STILL UNSTABLE in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1153/
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19:09 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24363 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to master , Datepicker calendar is not always sexy
19:09 ashimema[m]   Bug 24363
19:08 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24181 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to master , Make our datepicker inputs sexy
19:08 ashimema[m]   Bug 24181
18:54 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #137: STILL UNSTABLE in 52 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/137/
18:33 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_Master_D8 build #700: STILL UNSTABLE in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/700/
18:30 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #162: FIXED in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/162/
18:30 koha-jenkins  Yippee, build fixed!
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17:54 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_Master_U18 build #623: STILL UNSTABLE in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/623/
17:37 cait          kidclamp++ thx!
17:17 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_Master_D8 build #699: UNSTABLE in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/699/
17:13 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #161: UNSTABLE in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/161/
17:12 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 24103: (RM follow-up) Correction to updatedatabase text <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f49661a96f1c24adfe81c6e2650aeebd6a7daa91>
17:10 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_Master_U18 build #622: UNSTABLE in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/622/
16:53 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23956 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to oldstable , Replace famfamfam calendar icon in staff client with CSS data-url
16:53 oleonard      The long saga of Bugs 24181 and 24363 could have been avoided if we'd just reverted bug 23956
16:49 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1151: STILL UNSTABLE in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1151/
16:47 cait          https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars
16:46 ashimema[m]   couldn't find her irc name
16:46 cait          ashimema[m]: aleisha is on IRC uusually - maybe ask her directly :)
16:45 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24474 critical, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Lost items that are checked out are always returned, even when attempting to renew them
16:45 cait          bug 24474
16:38 huginn        ashimema[m]: The operation succeeded.
16:38 ashimema[m]   @later tell rangi could you ask aliesha to test bug 24474 please
16:25 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #135: FIXED in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/135/
16:24 koha-jenkins  Yippee, build fixed!
16:14 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 18433: Allow to select results to export in item search <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=40219cf2a683ca05afbfd4807ac8fdd055cb6eb2>
16:14 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 11297: Add atomicupdate patch and modify kohastructure.sql <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=99699a3114e7d9c13b191814f48eb16e1ec44e2e>
16:14 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 11297: Modify Z3950server schema file <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=749a508c1165484f57da93998195d713414b15c9>
16:14 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 11297: Add support for custom PQF attributes for Z39.50 server searches. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bd141a442e5244f4ea08819b833ab88350464d33>
16:14 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 11297: (follow-up) Add html filter to new input field <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4174d44218259564eefb0d7769de61d596027a3d>
16:14 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 6508: Add balance to `Fines & Charges` tab <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=242ced55e2c5e3e61b3914465e50dd522800e049>
16:14 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 23593: Link to the bibliographic record from the suggestion (OPAC) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ad433ddfe0b61a4dac0d56f394a8d7074af23e9a>
16:14 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 24103: Add option to dump search query to templates <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0d33dbcf2efd08ac8962a66fe566bd47596dcdef>
16:14 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 18433: Remember item search results selected rows in session storage <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=261dc1e247b215079973a400e0587c922a74bddc>
16:14 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 24648: Contextualization of past tense 'Created' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b73dfef3e1751ab71562d5a352970bfcb7d814f4>
16:14 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 6508: (follow-up) Change layout of price and hide tab if no fines <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b36b76d201845ee70d455b351360d13a8f19ce8a>
16:14 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 24363: Move the datepicker icon out of the input <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cff40d493c695299ee3fed85e2b26cb01d1bf336>
16:14 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 24103: (follow-up) Dump query on opac authorities search <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7c78331f68aa6de2d99f0638b6dd15e500aa1724>
16:13 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 6508: (follow-up) Remove dependency on jquery for check in templates <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9f9c1d5098ecee3926d394e409b6961e7c5e82bf>
16:13 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 11297: (QA follow-up) Make table headings match other pages <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d610ac87434a8bcac838db969d0812432964d9d1>
16:13 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 18433: Add missing filter <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7b0ad20f690aa57d86badc3318bc7bbcaa8cd8a4>
16:13 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 18433: Display the number of selected items <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a8109710531c8819da9457d7069e2d8785dd6d87>
16:13 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 24363: Compiled CSS <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2dbcc0303a4f51701d58c5f2bd54e621842e964b>
16:13 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 24103: DBRev 19.12.00.025 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=88dc96e68a7b35270b6cf24b3dfd33fa484f2172>
16:13 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 11297: DBRev 19.12.00.026 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fc4d99d2d799f4c9ac785dbea9c60570b509e185>
16:07 reiveune      bye
15:55 cait          btw... was it me?
15:55 ashimema[m]   grr.. why is D9 still not happy :(
15:54 ashimema[m]   yup
15:54 cait          especially if they acutally shoudl be their own module
15:54 cait          I think it's up to us to refuse big additions on C4
15:53 ashimema[m]   also.. if they are adding to C4.. it certainly needs to follow the testing requirements that Koha:: adheres too.. fully tested methods
15:52 ashimema[m]   certainly entirely new stuff should go into Koha:: and follow the practices there..
15:52 cait          ah we got: DEPR3: C4 deprecated for new modules
15:52 ashimema[m]   not sure about rules.. but in general I discourage it unless it clearly clarifies code already in C4 and basically helps the effort to move things to Koha:: eventually..
15:52 cait          PERL9: Subroutine naming conventions   at least says 'outdated'
15:51 cait          hm let me check
15:50 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_Master_D8 build #698: FIXED in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/698/
15:50 koha-jenkins  Yippee, build fixed!
15:49 kohaputti     couldn't fine there either
15:49 cait          kohaputti: i think there is soemthing in coding guidelines
15:49 cait          whoohoo
15:47 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #160: FIXED in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/160/
15:47 koha-jenkins  Yippee, build fixed!
15:37 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_Master_U18 build #621: FIXED in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/621/
15:37 koha-jenkins  Yippee, build fixed!
15:33 kohaputti     or is it for just introducing new C4 modules?
15:32 kohaputti     I cannot find it in the wiki
15:32 kohaputti     did we have some rule about not introducing new subs under C4?
15:23 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1150: STILL UNSTABLE in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1150/
15:03 * ashimema[m] crosses fingers for a green sweep any minute
15:03 cait          and i think you might have libraries interested in that (or i hope)
15:03 cait          when checking yesterday i noticed mine was the first sign-off
15:03 kidclamp      I can look at that
15:02 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11299 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bouzid.fergani, Signed Off , Add a button to automatically link authority records in cataloguing (AJAX)
15:02 cait          can I get you to qa bug 11299?
15:02 kidclamp      yes
15:02 cait          kidclamp: around?
14:49 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 24269: Adjust C4::Heading to generate headings from auth tags <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d4783f244b9b8bfe786849c8bc5f46489999a7af>
14:49 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 24669: Fix selenium test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=26f968344845c5ef6b078407d746a262691ceaaf>
14:49 ashimema[m]   hello
14:47 andreashm     hey wizzyrea
14:47 wizzyrea      hi
14:41 huginn        Log:            http://meetings.koha-community.org/2020/development_irc_meeting_19_february_2020.2020-02-19-14.02.log.html
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14:41 huginn        Minutes:        http://meetings.koha-community.org/2020/development_irc_meeting_19_february_2020.2020-02-19-14.02.html
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14:41 ashimema[m]   #endmeeting
14:41 ashimema[m]   thanks everyone
14:40 ashimema[m]   okies..
14:40 ashimema[m]   #info Next meeting: 4 March 2020, 14 UTC
14:40 ashimema[m]   Proposal: 4 March 2020, 14 UTC
14:39 ashimema[m]   4th March would fit the usual patturn
14:39 ashimema[m]   #topic Set time of next meeting
14:39 cait          nothing from me
14:38 ashimema[m]   speak up if anyone thinks we do?
14:38 ashimema[m]   I don't believe we have anything to review this week
14:38 ashimema[m]   #topic Review of coding guidelines
14:37 ashimema[m]   ok.. I tihnk we can move on then
14:37 ashimema[m]   #action The RFC needs an update to reflect what is currently available already
14:36 ashimema[m]   at least `metadata`, `library` and `patron` are missing.. and the endpoint already includes embed options
14:36 cait          what is on the wiki is not waht is in Koha - and I think it needs a bit more work to fit in terminology
14:36 cait          /return_claims
14:36 ashimema[m]   agreed
14:36 cait          i'd also like to request another update
14:35 cait          so maybe update first?
14:35 ashimema[m]   but he's out this afternoon so can't comment
14:35 ashimema[m]   AndrewIsh tells me the RFC doesn't reflect what's already available in the endpoint..
14:35 ashimema[m]   #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Illrequests_endpoint_RFC ILL RFC
14:34 cait          do we have a link for the lazy?
14:34 ashimema[m]   is josef around?
14:33 ashimema[m]   #info ILL Request API Endpoint discussion and vote
14:33 ashimema[m]   next
14:33 ashimema[m]   #action Ashimema to send mail to the mailing list announcing deprecation of QuaryParser.
14:33 ashimema[m]   I'll send something on the lists announcing the decision.
14:33 ashimema[m]   I tihnk we're safe as HEA suggests it's barely used and we as devs all know it's really not in a state that one should be using it..
14:32 huginn        Yes (5): Joubu, ashimema[m], cait, andreashm, kidclamp
14:32 huginn        Voted on "Should we deprecate QueryParser?" Results are
14:32 ashimema[m]   #endvote
14:32 kidclamp      #vote Yes
14:32 andreashm     #vote yes
14:31 cait          #vote Yes
14:31 ashimema[m]   #vote Yes
14:31 Joubu         #vote yes
14:31 huginn        Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
14:31 huginn        Begin voting on: Should we deprecate QueryParser? Valid vote options are Yes, No.
14:31 ashimema[m]   #startvote Should we deprecate QueryParser? Yes, No
14:31 Joubu         We should send an email to the ML
14:31 cait          how formal do you feel today?
14:31 kidclamp      +1
14:30 ashimema[m]   Shall I 'vote' it or just set as 'agreed'
14:30 cait          it's bad to lose work... but as it stands now noone is maintaining it, git doesn't forget and turning it on is a bad idea
14:30 cait          i think so
14:30 ashimema[m]   but yeah.. are we basically in agreement it should go to start with..
14:29 ere           I'd be happy to test
14:29 ashimema[m]   kidclamp, ere, dcook ?
14:28 cait          but as this will be quite difficult... maybe more a sign-off than qa
14:28 ashimema[m]   I can commit to testing but would like someone familiar with search to help review..
14:28 cait          I can try to do a review
14:28 Joubu         I can write it, if there are commitments on SO and QA
14:28 * ashimema[m] generally things anything that cleans up Search is a good thing at the moment..
14:27 ashimema[m]   are we corate enough for a vote.. and is anyone able to volunteer to take a look at doing the work?
14:27 ashimema[m]   I'm hopeing people had a chance to think about this the past couple of weeks
14:27 * oleonard    leaves for irl meeting
14:26 ashimema[m]   #info Deprecate/remove QueryParser
14:26 * ashimema[m] wishes there was a subtopic in the meet program ;)
14:26 Joubu         (bribe offered)
14:26 ashimema[m]   #topic General development discussion
14:26 Joubu         nothing else :)
14:26 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23463 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Move C4::Items CRUD subroutines to Koha::Item
14:26 Joubu         I need a PQA stamp on bug 23463
14:26 ashimema[m]   ok.. shall we move on then
14:25 Joubu         nothing special
14:25 cait          Joubu: ?
14:25 cait          I recently noticed some people seem to use git bz attach to write up notes - but they don't go into the patches, only bugzilla, so keep an eye out for those
14:24 cait          #info Reminders: Set Assignee on your bugs, include a good commit message and test plan!
14:24 cait          reminder: please set assignee when you start workingon a bug
14:24 ashimema[m]   lol
14:24 cait          so call to the QA team!
14:24 cait          #info Queues have been unusually full up to 140 lately, we have been pushing the numbers down a bit, but quite a lot of great stuff in there
14:23 andreashm     oh.... =)
14:23 * cait        blames andreashm
14:23 cait          oh sorry
14:23 ashimema[m]   cait
14:23 ashimema[m]   #topic Updates from the QA team
14:22 ashimema[m]   haha.. no worries Joubu
14:22 Joubu         yep, sorry, was reading back without everything!
14:22 ashimema[m]   #info The next maintanence releases are on their way and we are currently in string freeze.
14:22 ashimema[m]   ok.. no rmaints
14:21 ashimema[m]   if we're thinking quarterly that gives us four slots as such
14:21 ashimema[m]   the 'Feb' and 'Aug' dates are more mid release and idea for that are they not Joubu?
14:20 Joubu         to focus on big stuffs instead
14:20 ashimema[m]   rmaints?
14:20 ashimema[m]   #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers
14:20 Joubu         I personally think that it would be more interesting if they are scheduled in the middle of the release
14:20 ashimema[m]   ok.. moving on then
14:20 ashimema[m]   #action Ashimema to propose the next GBSD as a 'polishing and bugfixing' themed day early May ready for release.
14:19 ashimema[m]   ok.. I'll action myself to work out some dates to suggest and put it out there
14:19 ashimema[m]   totally
14:19 cait          might also open it up to some more people if we phrase it that way
14:18 cait          coudl focus on testing and shaking out bugs
14:18 cait          yep that makes sense
14:18 cait          close to release
14:18 ashimema[m]   yeah.. so early May and early Nov would be 'bugfix/polishing' themed.. and Feb and Aug more 'new stuff' themed
14:18 cait          I thnk evergreen does soemthign called a 'feedbackfest'
14:18 cait          hm
14:18 cait          april, july, october
14:18 cait          otherwise i'd suggest to move one month earlier
14:17 cait          then it could work
14:17 cait          beginning of nov?
14:17 ashimema[m]   Feb, May, Aug, Nov could work as a quarterly cycle
14:16 ashimema[m]   So.. that was Feb.. shall we suggest another for early May perhaps.. a final bug cleaning/polishing before release?
14:16 ashimema[m]   that is indeed why I suggested a Friday this time around..
14:16 * andreashm   was sad to miss GBSD
14:16 oleonard      It might be nice to really make sure we have buy-in from the folks we want to be there on whatever day it is
14:15 cait          so that might work best for some
14:15 cait          i think a lot of the copanies already do some kind of community friday
14:15 cait          pros and cons to both
14:15 ashimema[m]   does the Friday work well.. or should we mix days up a bit?
14:14 ashimema[m]   ooh.. I missed that.. quarterly went through my head too
14:14 oleonard      Yeah the livestream was fun
14:14 cait          btw, grat effort from Bywater++
14:14 oleonard      I liked GBSD :)
14:14 cait          there was some discussion about having a quarterly event on the youtube channel
14:14 ashimema[m]   anywho.. one to ponder :)
14:13 ashimema[m]   Do we think it was worthwhile as a group and should we schedule another.. I don't want to over do it.. but seems to be a great way of buiding up a bit of momentum now and then..
14:12 ashimema[m]   #info The bug squashing hasn't stopped since the GBSD however, lots of continued effort.. I was met with a queue of 60 bugs to push this morning after only 1 day out.. thanks everyone!
14:12 cait          #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany
14:12 cait          oh oops
14:11 ashimema[m]   #info The Global Bug Squashing Day was a success with lots of bugs changing status and ByWater hosting an excellent live youtube stream.  Thanks to all those who got involved and I look forward to seeing even more of you at the next one.
14:11 oleonard      GBSD was a success because one of my bugs got signed off.
14:09 ashimema[m]   #topic GBSD Review
14:09 ashimema[m]   #info 20.05 is coming along nicely, lots of new features and enhancements pushed so far this cycle.
14:09 ashimema[m]   #topic Update from the Release manager
14:08 Joubu         nope :)
14:07 ashimema[m]   anyone else have anything they would like to announce?
14:07 ashimema[m]   #info Lots of people signed up to the Marseille hackfest.. still more space if your interested.. It's going to be another great event.
14:06 ashimema[m]   #info We're nearly half way through the cycle now and I intend to slow down on adventurous pushing in around 3 weeks time to give us time to concentrate on bugfixes and polishing.
14:06 andreashm     #info Andreas Hedström Mace, Stockholm University Library
14:05 ashimema[m]   #topic Announcements
14:04 ere           #info Ere Maijala, The National Library of Finland
14:04 khall         #info Kyle M Hall, ByWater Solutions
14:03 Joubu         #info Jonathan Druart
14:03 ashimema[m]   #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe
14:03 oleonard      #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA
14:03 ashimema[m]   please use "#info" in front of your introduction to have it show up in the automatic minutes
14:03 ashimema[m]   #topic Introductions
14:03 ashimema[m]   #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_19_February_2020 Agenda
14:02 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24669 major, P5 - low, ---, joonas.kylmala, Pushed to master , Editing circulation rule breaks holds when total holds unlimited
14:02 Joubu         ashimema[m]: follow-up attached to bug 24669
14:02 huginn        The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_19_february_2020'
14:02 huginn        Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
14:02 huginn        Meeting started Wed Feb 19 14:02:48 2020 UTC.  The chair is ashimema[m]. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
14:02 ashimema[m]   #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 19 February 2020
14:02 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #134: NOW UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/134/
13:59 ashimema[m]   dang.. I totally forgot there was a meeting in a minute :(
13:59 Joubu         will have a look
13:58 ashimema[m]   consider this a beg for help.. any pointers?
13:58 ashimema[m]   I can't replicate the issue.. but the test is certainly failing..
13:57 ashimema[m]   so I booted a testing docker and manually ran through the steps the test emulates..
13:57 ashimema[m]   just trying to work out why that last selenium test is failing
13:57 Joubu         yes
13:55 ashimema[m]   Joubu around?
13:22 oleonard      My drawing board has been gone back to too many times already today
13:06 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_Master_D8 build #697: NOW UNSTABLE in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/697/
13:04 * andreashm   waves
13:01 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #159: NOW UNSTABLE in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/159/
12:58 oleonard      Hi kidclamp
12:58 * kidclamp    waves
12:55 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_Master_U18 build #620: NOW UNSTABLE in 50 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/620/
12:38 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1149: NOW UNSTABLE in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1149/
12:20 oleonard      Hi #koha
12:03 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 24367: (RM follow-up) Syntax error correction <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=907914624248890a3b50f407618d80e57c16b698>
12:00 * ashimema[m] is investigating
11:57 cait          oh dashboard is quite red (hope it wasn't me)
11:57 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #158: FAILURE in 11 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/158/
11:51 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1148: FAILURE in 12 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1148/
11:51 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_Master_U18 build #619: FAILURE in 6 min 18 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/619/
11:45 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_Master_D8 build #696: FAILURE in 7 min 45 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/696/
11:45 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #133: FAILURE in 7 min 5 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/133/
11:37 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 21944: Reroute waiting hold from wrong branch <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=07ad62380ececb2dda591fcf495d67ee71d890d1>
11:37 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 21944: Test for Circulation.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ccf4dfc3e9f4819c2317a533a68ddce7395d7035>
11:37 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 22245: Allow copy/move from and to control fields <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=946d1dff1a428217cb825787c341563ef1e97289>
11:37 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 24051: Remove "search( %condition ) is deprecated" warning from batchMod.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6d55462f1b2cb4840333f9e3830de3084a39a30e>
11:37 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 5016: Fix some translation issues with English PDF order templates <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=74729776551c68a3bab9693f082ef22822864e4d>
11:37 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 21944: Improve efficiency of code <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=515df43af8dddd493616dfe9efc83373c8d2f50b>
11:37 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 21633: Remove finesMode 'test' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=aa83cb59ced347ac909444a99ac43058d6ad7b1e>
11:37 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 17221: (follow-up) Orphan comma in shelf browser <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=afb3d36c3e5ccda5cc1bb562d2fd07a218fdcb32>
11:37 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 17221: Remove orphan commas in shelf browser <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7d78c57d97b6e5e8e06a753edb8da2e68aab3c4e>
11:37 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 21633: (follow-up) Cleanup other values for finesMode <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=33e33345b0a13b98759759b0ad9500d82f52afd2>
11:37 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 24494: tests: 00-valid-xml.t shouldn't check node_modules <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3c382e1f35bdc6e07c2303e1002bb20e06127751>
11:37 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 24094: Unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f2cbcdbb99f871b64ee79c3679c453262302d17e>
11:37 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 24094: Strip trailing spaces and punctuation from authority headings <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2cf4496dd6e98f69baafe1e23ff418b2855f8f49>
11:37 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 24494: Make the regex more exact <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=43dd880d4fc4cd4e1214113c31f9a865b183b75b>
11:37 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 19791: Keep user in circ when viewing patron's logs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fa8225feb344eb224cd59eace0cb18370d9e547e>
11:37 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 24669: Improve numeric input handling in smart-rules.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4a9330df408bd7bfd6bfafbedeeb1cb9ce858d9a>
11:37 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 24669: Show "Unlimited" values correctly in smart-rules.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=38b95b5122a8448bbf84c96450fd1906d4fffaec>
11:37 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 24666: Display not registered guarantors on the patron detail page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=18eeaed95feb8ccd5ff2598c4e6511a814d8a370>
11:37 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 24666: (QA follow-up) Add missing filters <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f3d8a3b91aef7debb66d064d8150843ed448b1fe>
11:37 huginn        News from kohagit: Bug 21633: DBRev 19.12.00.024 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6e49d50d83d0c32107b23b9b3a79cb87ba4bda73>
10:46 magnuse       paxed++
10:42 Joubu         thx
10:40 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24682 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Clarify UsageStatsGeolocation syspref description and behaviour
10:40 paxed         Joubu: bug 24682
10:15 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24681 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Branch address country is used for HEA as-is
10:15 paxed         filed bug 24681
10:06 paxed         ohh. so if you set the branch address country, it get used as the country for HEA. and it's not i18n, of course.
09:54 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_Master_D8 build #695: STILL UNSTABLE in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/695/
09:50 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24680 minor, P5 - low, ---, ere.maijala, Needs Signoff , Hold modification endpoints don't always work properly
09:50 ere           I just posted bug 24680 with a couple of small but useful fixes to holds modification endpoints in the REST API
09:33 magnuse       that would probably not hurt...
09:27 paxed         that page really should be linked from somewhere obvious, like from the UsageStatsGeolocation syspref description.
09:26 paxed         magnuse: huh
09:25 magnuse       paxed: <intranet>/cgi-bin/koha/admin/usage_statistics.pl
09:21 magnuse       paxed: i was wondering the same recently, didn't actually figure it out...
09:17 ashimema[m]   if anyone fancies picking off a simple QA in the next half hour whilst I'm out, that'll round out my queue to exactly 60 ;P
09:14 ashimema[m]   brb.. kids club runs
09:14 ashimema[m]   koha-testing-docker now built.. lets see if the run I just fired for D8 is successful  now :)
09:13 ashimema[m]   that's cool
09:13 ashimema[m]   oh really..
09:12 mtj           https://github.com/KohaAloha/koha-testing-docker/blob/master/Jenkinsfile-ub-par
09:12 mtj           ashimema[m]: i did manage to get a parellel build for 'koha-testing-docker' going...
09:12 ashimema[m]   . . .
09:11 paxed         where do i edit branches.geolocation in the staff UI?
09:11 mtj           ^..indeed, or a !bang prefix to exclude
09:10 ashimema[m]   Sounds like a bug... But could also be a nice feature
08:58 paxed         i was wondering why a consortium wouldn't show up in hea... for the geolocation, apparently a space after the comma prevents it from showing up?
08:58 cait          sorry paxed, replying to ashimema[m]
08:57 davidnind     paxed: having a quick look at the system preferences and documentation it doesn't look like you can
08:56 paxed         ah hah
08:54 cait          i know
08:49 paxed         is there a way to prevent a branch from showing up in HEA stats?
08:38 ashimema[m]   you asked for this one..
08:38 ashimema[m]   but I don't think you need to know any of those for this one..
08:38 ashimema[m]   I can happily walk you through the other bugs..
08:38 cait          I'll get to it... give me a little time to come to grips - started on the low bug numbers instead
08:37 cait          ashimema[m]: the whole accounts tree is scaring me tbh, because i haven't had the time to check how things click together
08:37 ashimema[m]   it's not a big patch even
08:37 ashimema[m]   and the patch is live at most of our sites now and they are very happy with it
08:36 mtj           bb 30..
08:36 ashimema[m]   Andrew did a good job in testing it for SO..
08:35 cait          the cutest
08:35 davidnind     cait: chocolate Kiwis are available again (https://www.whittakers.co.nz/en_NZ/products/#kiwi)
08:35 cait          it's scary
08:34 * ashimema[m] pokes cait again regarding change calculation improvements..
08:33 ashimema[m]   you guys are awesome.. so nice to see things flowing :)
08:33 cait          that's realyl nothing you could apologize for!
08:33 ashimema[m]   in about half an hour we should know if the dockerfile change has fixed the issue.
08:33 davidnind     cait: I think I got a bit carried away :) (sorry about filling up the QA queue!)
08:32 ashimema[m]   so.. i don't think we need to worry too hard about Jessie support
08:32 ashimema[m]   I don't think it's desperately important at this point to be honest.. it's not a bug I expect to be backported and I've made that clear in the bug comments ;)
08:32 ashimema[m]   possibly.. I'll look into that next..
08:31 mtj           aah click... is is possible to rewrite the patch to work on jessies  libcpan-meta-perl (2.142690-1) ?
08:31 cait          you are a sign-off hereo
08:31 * cait        sends some extra dark chocolate
08:31 cait          hi davidnind :)
08:31 ashimema[m]   I've just spotted that i was only installing one of the two dependancies.. looks like I missed one.. just trying that in the Dockerfile.. hopefully that'll get us out of trouble.
08:31 davidnind     hi cait!
08:30 ashimema[m]   it's not the cpanfile that's incompatible.. it's that we use a function only available to us in the more recent version of the module that reads it..
08:29 ashimema[m]   just trying something.. lets see if that builds
08:29 mtj           we could try to build the file jessie's version
08:28 mtj           ashimema[m]: hmm, i guess jessie's older version is incompatible with koha's metacpan file...
08:27 mtj           hey folks
08:24 ashimema[m]   morning cait
08:24 ashimema[m]   I added CPAN::Meta into the installed by cpan section in the jessie dockerfile.. but it doesn't appear to have stuck
08:24 ashimema[m]   but also.. I wondered how much you understood the Dockerfile stuff... I tried to fix the issue at that level just to get the tests happy (as much as I don't think we need it supported widely.. it would be good to have tests passing generally so other bugs that may need backporting are clearly tested)
08:22 cait          good morning all
08:21 ashimema[m]   but.. as we're going to deprecate support for Jessie with the 20.05 release I'm not sure it's worth the effort?
08:21 ashimema[m]   CPAN::Meta needs a newer version than Jessie has (my bad.. i thought I had checked that)
08:20 ashimema[m]   it's the cpanfile bug..
08:20 ashimema[m]   wanted your thoughts on the current failure for jessie..
08:20 mtj           hi ashimema[m], whats up?
08:17 ashimema[m]   mtj around?
08:16 davidnind     ashimema[m]++
08:15 ere           ashimema[m]++
08:15 ashimema[m]   it'll be a nice busy morning
08:14 ashimema[m]   pretty great
08:11 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_Master_D8 build #694: STILL UNSTABLE in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/694/
08:07 davidnind     ashimeme[m]: that's pretty massive!
07:58 ashimema[m]   can't remember the last time I came in to find nearly 60 bugs in my 'to push' queue!
07:58 ashimema[m]   koha++ you guys were busy yesterday
07:49 ere           good morning!
07:45 reiveune      hello
07:45 magnuse       bonjour reiveune
07:45 * magnuse     waves
03:51 twb           Oh it seems "development" is just a euphemism for "fundraising", so really it's just the person who runs the fundraising campaign
03:50 twb           https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundraising#cite_note-3  sounds like they buy stuff that isn't actual books, but e.g. fixing the leaky roof
03:49 twb           I'm just a dumb dev and not a library scientist - can someone tell me what a "Library Development Officer" does?
00:35 Margaret      Have a good night koha!