Time  Nick             Message
23:59 davidnind        caroline_catlady: have fun training!
23:15 caroline_catlady btw, I'm off for a training for the next two weeks (!!) I'll be back on IRC in March. @later me, email me or message me on What'sApp if you need anything specific from me, like cat advice or knitting advice lol :)
23:13 caroline_catlady maybe someone answer me in a @later since I wont be around in the next weeks
23:12 caroline_catlady another question... what is the difference between the system preference maxreserves and the maximum total holds allowed (count) in Circulation and fines rules > Default checkout, hold and return policy
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21:59 lisettelatah     I'm off now.  Have a good weekend everyone!
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21:59 wahanui          Congratulations!
21:59 koha-jenkins     Yippee, build fixed!
21:53 andrew___        Ah, I was getting item type summary confused with library OPAC info -- another mysterious and seemingly under-used field
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21:47 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17598 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Make use of itemtypes.summary
21:47 cait             bug 17598
21:47 cait             sorry, that one: 17598
21:47 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17589 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, CLOSED FIXED, Improper method type in Koha::ItemType(s)
21:47 cait             bug 17589
21:47 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23663 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to master , Itemtype summary feature in search results is only used in deprecated opac results non-xslt view
21:47 cait             bug 23663
21:47 caroline_catlady it must be there for a reason, we can't remove it completely
21:46 cait             but there is a bug report with a decent test plan i think
21:46 andrew___        oh, caroline, I knew that at one time. one sec, dredging memory
21:46 cait             i think there is a debate of removing it
21:46 cait             no tusing it...
21:45 caroline_catlady I can't figure out what it does, and it's not in the manual
21:45 caroline_catlady does anyone use the "summary" in item types?
21:44 ashimema[m]      I really hope the performance issues can be improved.. rather disappointed the seems to be such a slow down
21:41 lisettelatah     Thanks ashimema[m]!
21:41 ashimema[m]      Good luck
21:41 ashimema[m]      That's how I do it.. but then I have loads of remotes setup already
21:40 ashimema[m]      'git checkout -b whatever --track joubu/whatever
21:39 ashimema[m]      <lisettelatah "I forgot the sandboxes supported"> 'git remote add joubu https:://whatever'
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21:39 lisettelatah     I forgot the sandboxes supported remote branches. I'll try that!
21:39 cait             :)
21:39 cait             so basically what ashimema[m] said much better than me
21:39 cait             otherweise remote yep
21:38 cait             hm it might be a little easier on a sandbox if it generlaly works on a sandbox
21:38 ashimema[m]      Either add the remote to your git and checkout the branch.. or use a sandbox which supports branches
21:38 lisettelatah     How do you test with a remote branch? I see the revamped circ rules on 15522 is on a remote branch ready for sign off.
21:37 cait             ok, so it's at least confirmed :)
21:36 ashimema[m]      I thought that was just me earlier today.. took like two minutes to load the circ rules table
21:36 cait             they might say it's ont finihsed... but then we at least know
21:36 lisettelatah     cait++
21:34 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24670 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Circulation and fine rules page has performance issues since issuingrules change
21:34 cait             filed bug 24670
21:31 cait             maybe it woudl be resolved with the new gui, but i#s not good
21:31 cait             we should file that as well
21:31 cait             ouch
21:26 lisettelatah     I thought it was very slow. When I saved it was about 25 seconds and there was only 1 change.
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21:20 ashimema[m]      Go team .🤗
21:20 cait             do you perceive it as much slower too?
21:20 cait             not about performance yet
21:20 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24669 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Editing circulation rule breaks holds when total holds unlimited
21:20 cait             bug 24669
21:19 cait             i also just filed a bug about holds
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21:16 lisettelatah     That is definitely a problem.
21:16 lisettelatah     cait, slow to load the page the first time, even with only 1 rule.
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20:55 cait             there is something going wrong there
20:55 cait             hm Too many holds:   koha  can only place a maximum of Unlimited total holds.
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20:51 cait             takes a really long time to save an edit
20:50 cait             Circulation and fine rules is really slow now with the changes :(
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20:01 ashimema[m]      You guys are awesome
20:01 cait             still around too
20:01 lisettelatah     I'm here 2 more hours and am mostly going to be squashing for that time :)
19:58 cait             :)
19:58 oleonard         That's it for me folks. I hope there are still a few out there squashing for a while longer
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19:34 lisettelatah     cait++
19:34 lisettelatah     oleonard++
19:34 lisettelatah     davidnind ++
19:31 davidnind        Yep! (It's all a bit of black box to me, but if it is all green and no failed tests, then it is all good to sign-off)
19:28 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24609 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Needs Signoff , Add routes for getting and setting checkout due date
19:28 lisettelatah     Bug 24609, if I run the prove and get back Result: Pass does that mean it worked? I haven't tested any API bugs before.
19:25 cait             lots to pick still :)
19:25 cait             np
19:24 lisettelatah     cait, thanks, I think I'll just wait till next week and try testing something else.
19:24 lisettelatah     Doesn't look like it'll map.
19:20 cait             i coul dhelp with the sql bit if you want
19:20 cait             you could try to map it to an uppercase subfield code... and try to edit in the item edior... but never tried that
19:19 cait             i don't hink there is a way outside of sql
19:19 cait             hmm
19:19 lisettelatah     Also, is there a way to set a lost on date in the past? The bug I'm testing needs to have a book that has been lost for at least a couple of days. I can lose a book and then test next week if I need to, but if I could sign off today that'd be great.
19:18 cait             Joubu added that - Joubu++
19:18 cait             it is
19:18 lisettelatah     cait! Thanks, I'll try that. It would be very helpful to have some pre-populated items.
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19:17 wahanui          Congratulations!
19:17 koha-jenkins     Yippee, build fixed!
19:17 * oleonard       always forgets about reset_all
19:17 cait             but you can run reset_all - it will populate the db with the sample data from the web installer and some more
19:17 cait             i think the web installer doesn't have sample records/items
19:16 lisettelatah     Or I'm remember incorrectly because I've done so much on the sandboxes
19:16 lisettelatah     In the past when I've run the devbox webinstaller it populated with some items and bib records.
19:15 lisettelatah     devbox
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19:13 cait             lisettelatah: devbox or docker?
19:13 cait             oh
19:13 cait             is there an equivalent to reset_all?
19:12 cait             i mean in the web installer - or is devbox hacked?
19:12 cait             hm but we don't have items
19:12 oleonard         lisettelatah: The nuclear option would be to drop the database, recreate it, and re-run the web installer
19:06 lisettelatah     When I was setting up my devbox this morning, I told it to import sample items on the web installer but I don't have any items now. Is there a way I can tell it to import that sample data now?
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18:56 lisettelatah     I turns out the patch didn't apply properly for that bug, but I'm sure I'll find another.
18:55 lisettelatah     perfect, thanks.
18:54 oleonard         Have to do kshell first
18:54 ashimema[m]      It'll output a bunch of results
18:54 ashimema[m]      Inside kohaclone, literally just run the command you showed
18:53 ashimema[m]      Kohadevbox?
18:52 lisettelatah     If a test plan has steps like "prove -v t/db_dependent/Circulation.t" how should I test that in my devbox?
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18:43 wahanui          Congratulations!
18:43 koha-jenkins     Yippee, build fixed!
18:43 ashimema[m]      Sure I feed that earlier this week
18:43 ashimema[m]      Hmm.. send I'm not installing the right dependency on D8 yet
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18:18 wahanui          Congratulations!
18:18 koha-jenkins     Yippee, build fixed!
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18:06 ashimema[m]      Haha
17:56 cait             i might get actually something done now that they stopped... but still sad :)
17:51 lisettelatah     I have to go up on the desk for an hour, but I'll try and sign off some more after that.
17:46 cait             lisettelatah++
17:46 cait             woohoo
17:46 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22880 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Convert opacheader system preference to news block
17:46 oleonard         Bug 22880 signed off!! Thank you lisettelatah!!
17:37 ashimema[m]      bbiab.. dinner time :)
17:28 ashimema[m]      khall++
17:26 cait             kidclamp++
17:23 ashimema[m]      interesting
17:21 ere              ashimema[m]: Yeah, I'll see if I can manage to find a moment to try improving the loading of plugins. I stumbled on the fact that Koha::Plugins->new()->GetPlugins cannot be called twice or it will blow up..
17:12 cait             well deserved
17:11 cait             shoutout to Owen on the youtube thing :)
17:10 cait             ... well probably
17:10 cait             not sure if can say the same about my queue heh
17:10 * ashimema[m]    is loving watching his queue fill up this afternoon
17:10 cait             bywater++
17:06 cait             lisettelatah++ :)
17:06 cait             awesome :)
17:06 ashimema[m]      it's nice to see your not on your own in GBSD
17:06 ashimema[m]      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0PF1V7c4hU for those not aware
17:06 lisettelatah     cait,yes! I'm rebuilding my devbox again and commenting on bugs while it builds.
17:05 cait             lisettelatah: GBSD'ing? :)
16:37 lisettelatah     hi wizzyrea
16:36 wahanui          bidet, wizzyrea
16:36 wizzyrea         hi
16:05 ashimema[m]      tests++
16:01 reiveune         bye
15:53 ashimema[m]      think the only way out of this might be a subselect
15:52 ashimema[m]      strict modes royally screws the pooch in this case
15:52 ashimema[m]      and now I remember why it is a having I was using in the first place!
15:52 ashimema[m]      https://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=80455
15:52 ashimema[m]      mm
15:51 cait             group by an dhaving always go together i think?
15:50 ashimema[m]      no matter
15:50 ashimema[m]      but that's actually a pretty common combination
15:50 ashimema[m]      and a group by
15:50 ashimema[m]      well.. having with a join
15:50 ashimema[m]      yup
15:49 cait             having late lunhc/early dinner, then back on bugs
15:49 ashimema[m]      I'm currently trying to figure out how to write the query in a completely different way
15:49 cait             so defaut mysql disables use of having?
15:49 ashimema[m]      indeed
15:49 cait             oops
15:49 ashimema[m]      but we currently still claim to support 5.5 and 5.6 and support all strict modes too
15:48 ashimema[m]      fixed in 5.7
15:48 ashimema[m]      mysql can't do 'having' queries with that mode in 5.5 and 5.6
15:48 cait             hm?
15:40 ashimema[m]      poo
15:40 ashimema[m]      I'm not finding mysql bugs in that strict behaviour
15:40 ashimema[m]      oh dear..
15:26 cait             yeah
15:25 ashimema[m]      also scares me she's done allot to change a controller and there are zero tests
15:23 ashimema[m]      mind you.. I've just done it in a clever way elsewhere.. maybe I'll give her a tip
15:23 ashimema[m]      adding all those field aint half going to be messy
15:23 ashimema[m]      yikes.. I don't think she's going to like it.. now I've looked at the code..
15:22 cait             glad I was not totally wrong too
15:22 cait             all we can do is try :)
15:22 ashimema[m]      hope I've clarified it, not made it worse cait
15:21 huginn           cait: I suck
15:21 cait             @excuse
15:11 ashimema[m]      sure
15:11 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24488 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Needs Signoff , Holds to Pull sometimes shows the wrong 'first patron' details
15:11 cait             ashimema[m]: speakign of the group by - could you take  a quick look at bug 24488 if i made sense there? it#s just about that
15:09 caroline_catlady good to know
15:08 ashimema[m]      with it.. we need group_by me.field for every field in the borrowers table..
15:08 ashimema[m]      before the sql strict crap a group_by me.borrowernumber was enough..
15:07 ashimema[m]      I only want one row for a borrower but might be more than one issue since date x in the join
15:07 ashimema[m]      * borrowers by last issue date
15:07 ashimema[m]      borrowers by last issue data
15:07 ashimema[m]      for example
15:07 ashimema[m]      any time you join a table and want to group down to one table's id's
15:05 cait             mysql strict stuff
15:04 caroline_catlady in which case would you need to group by everything?
15:02 ashimema[m]      damn is annoying having to write out ever single field name in a group by :(
14:58 cait             I'd love to have some docs for dummies about those with examples
14:57 jajm             yes (__ and all its companions __n, __x, ...)
14:57 oleonard         It's a different function in JS, correct? __() instead of _() ?
14:56 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24662 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Remove global variables MSG_* from datatables.inc
14:56 jajm             oleonard, no, i was just about to write something about that in bug 24662, JS5 rule should probably be removed/changed
14:55 oleonard         jajm: Is there something on the wiki about new guidelines for translatable strings in JavaScript?
14:50 cait             sec, this part here: I'm wondering if we should have the course items editor *only* update the course items table and *never* the items table. That would also mean disabling the ability to edit course items on active course reserve. This could make the system more understandable, though less flexible.
14:49 cait             but what did you mean would make it less flexible?
14:49 cait             scary stuff
14:48 cait             yep i noticed
14:48 khall            cait simply put, in master, editing a course item just calls ModItem!
14:47 cait             the first idea of always editing the course item from there made sense to me -
14:47 cait             khall: not sure i understood your comment on the course reserves bug
14:42 khall            hi cait!
14:41 wahanui          hmmm... hi khall is my consciousness present in this realm?
14:41 cait             hi khall!
14:39 cait             .. an di think i have already seen a bug for can't save report without memcached somewhere
14:38 cait             ok it#s alive again
14:38 cait             i dunno
14:38 cait             because it won't work with en empty cache value... which cannot be set when cache is off
14:38 ashimema[m]      why is memcached dead?
14:37 cait             and now i can't add sql reports for my test
14:37 cait             ok... my memcached is dead
14:37 ashimema[m]      like.. yesterday for the cpanfile one
14:37 ashimema[m]      very recent pushes
14:35 cait             i didn't even know these were a thing
14:35 cait             reinstalling
14:34 ashimema[m]      i.e. sudo?
14:34 ashimema[m]      did you install it at system or user level?
14:34 ashimema[m]      hmm
14:34 cait             but at the same time the system says it's installed that version :(
14:33 cait             sitll the memcached one
14:33 oleonard         cait: What does it say is missing?
14:33 cait             and web installer still claims i don't meet requirements
14:33 cait             i did a restart all
14:33 cait             still no luck
14:33 cait             6 distributions installed
14:33 cait             Successfully installed Cache-Memcached-Fast-Safe-0.06
14:33 cait             Building and testing Cache-Memcached-Fast-Safe-0.06 ... OK
14:31 cait             one of his bots produced a file with lots of EEK - i commented on te bug
14:31 ashimema[m]      use cpanm for now cait
14:31 ashimema[m]      I think mtj has laready packaged it but not released untill release
14:30 ashimema[m]      again.. likely the lack of Mirko's build bot
14:30 cait             E: Unable to locate package libcache-memcached-fast-safe-perl
14:30 cait             which means i need it to get out of hte web installer
14:30 ashimema[m]      can't remember the number off the top of my head
14:30 cait             yes it is requierd
14:30 cait             nope
14:30 ashimema[m]      that's going to be marked as required.. I think Joubu did a bug for it..
14:30 cait             hm thought that was what i tried sec
14:29 oleonard         libcache-memcached-fast-safe-perl
14:29 cait             does someone have the debian package name for me maybe?
14:27 cait             we do plan to fix htat... right? that it will be installed by default?
14:27 ashimema[m]      but yes.. it would be nicer to report something nicer
14:27 cait             Cache::Memcached::Fast::Safe
14:27 ashimema[m]      report it.. I didn't think of it when i QA'd that one.. never had the issue
14:26 cait             maybe a nicer error would be something ot cosider :)
14:26 cait             I was afraid you'd say that
14:26 ashimema[m]      it's required for the installer to piont out missing dependancies ;)
14:26 cait             but in this case... the installer explodes
14:26 ashimema[m]      so it won't have got pulled yet.
14:25 cait             usually the installer should point out missing packages
14:25 ashimema[m]      but mirko's nightly build bot isn't currently building packages
14:25 cait             well maybe
14:25 cait             i tihnk something is wrong
14:25 ashimema[m]      it's listed in the packages and dependancies..
14:25 oleonard         jinx
14:25 ashimema[m]      lol
14:25 ashimema[m]      libcpan-meta-perl
14:25 oleonard         libcpan-meta-perl
14:25 cait             aha
14:24 oleonard         I was just asking about that cait
14:24 cait             that a new one?
14:24 cait             n't locate object method "phases" via package "CPAN::Meta::Prereqs" at /home/vagrant/kohaclone/C4/Installer/PerlModules.pm line 55
14:24 ashimema[m]      okies
14:24 cait             doing some warm-up first
14:24 cait             i'll try, but maybe a little later
14:23 cait             oh
14:23 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22359 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Improve usability of 'change calculation' (bug 11373)
14:23 cait             bug 22359
14:22 ashimema[m]      fancy taking a bash at but 22359 cait.. i've been waiting for your feedback on that one for ages :(
14:21 ashimema[m]      sure
14:21 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17611 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Searching for orders uses misleading column name "Pending order"
14:21 cait             ashimema[m]: could i interest you in fast an easy? bug 17611
14:19 oleonard         Hi wizzyrea
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14:18 ashimema[m]      lol
14:17 cait             bye Joubu
14:17 Joubu            I have to end my day a bit early today. Happy end of GBSD #koha :)
14:16 cait             ... and of course my devbox is acting weird... today of all days
14:16 cait             +1
14:16 oleonard         ashimema[m]: I wait until Koha tells me something is missing and then I try to guess the package based on the error message :D
14:15 ashimema[m]      using the community packages for
14:15 ashimema[m]      how do you install your dependancies oleonard.. I tend to use `apt install koha-perldeps`
14:15 oleonard         Running the web installer, not a new installation
14:14 cait             hm hang up on git pull?
14:14 ashimema[m]      it's listed in the debian/control file so should be getting installed I think?
14:14 ashimema[m]      what's the actual problem..
14:14 ashimema[m]      confused oleonard..
14:13 oleonard         *sigh* Sometimes I guess the wrong name
14:13 ashimema[m]      so.. prehaps it's not listed in our control file?
14:13 ashimema[m]      haha.. yup
14:13 ashimema[m]      https://packages.debian.org/jessie/libmarc-file-mij-perl
14:13 cait             jinx
14:13 cait             :)
14:13 cait             ah, you beat me
14:12 cait             https://manpages.debian.org/jessie/libmarc-file-mij-perl/MARC::Record::MiJ.3pm.en.html
14:12 ashimema[m]      Looks like it oleonard
14:12 ashimema[m]      https://manpages.debian.org/testing/libmarc-file-mij-perl/MARC::Record::MiJ.3pm.en.html
14:12 oleonard         Installer says it's required...
14:12 wahanui          cait: what?
14:12 cait             wahanui: sounded positive
14:12 oleonard         :/
14:12 ashimema[m]      pass
14:11 cait             lol
14:11 wahanui          i heard MiJ was in debian, we just don't pull it (yet, eyes on mirko)
14:11 cait             MiJ?
14:11 oleonard         Is there a debian package for MARC::Record::MiJ?
14:11 ashimema[m]      nice to have you back cait
14:11 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11983 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, In Discussion , Code to select patrons to purge needs to be centralized (use of filter_by)
14:11 * ashimema[m]    is rebasing bug 11983
14:11 cait             something nice and easy for warm up?
14:11 cait             cool! where do i start?
14:10 ashimema[m]      hello
14:10 oleonard         HERE!
14:10 cait             nope, it was just my way of saying, 'got rid of the work stuff, where are my gbsd people?' :)
14:10 oleonard         cait: But seriously, were you expecting a group somewhere other than here?
14:09 cait             oh well..
14:09 cait             interesting...
14:08 oleonard         It's okay, technically this channel has always been clothing-optional ;)
14:08 cait             i just wanted to join... but not so sure now :)
14:07 cait             oh...um.
14:05 ashimema[m]      lol
14:05 Joubu            hah!
14:04 Joubu            all naked undef the waterfall
14:04 oleonard         cait: The GBSD group is skinny-dipping in a British lake somewhere, it turns out
14:04 oleonard         cait: group?
14:03 oleonard         Thanks Joubu!
14:03 cait             where is the GBSD group please? :)
14:03 cait             hi all
14:01 Joubu            oleonard: sorry, it's libcpan-meta-perl
14:01 ashimema[m]      Need the talk to mtj.. I think it shouldnt need packaging, but maybe I missed something
14:01 ashimema[m]      For now but perhaps grab it from cpan
14:00 oleonard         stretch
14:00 wahanui          i think jessie is packaged with 5.20.2
14:00 Joubu            oleonard: jessie?
13:57 ashimema[m]      Sounds interesting ere
13:56 oleonard         Joubu: "libmodule-cpanfile-perl is already the newest version (1.1002-1)."
13:55 Joubu            oleonard: install libmodule-cpanfile-perl
13:54 oleonard         Hi caroline_catlady
13:53 caroline_catlady good morning!
13:53 oleonard         Can't locate object method "phases" via package "CPAN::Meta::Prereqs"
13:47 ere              ashimema[m]: Just a quick followup on my slow api startup stuff from yesterday: the database call was slow because it initialized DBIx, which again is slower than I like. OpenAPI JSON validation is, however, the real culprit, and I think we could speed it up when plugins are present by building the full spec and only validate it once, then fall back to one-by-one if it fails. Anyway, too much to change for now...
13:46 jajm             great :)
13:44 oleonard         jajm++
13:44 oleonard         jajm: Otherwise it tests really well
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13:38 jajm             oleonard, you can `./translate install LANG` first, it will create the missing file
13:35 oleonard         Oh thanks I totally missed that part of his comment
13:34 jajm             oleonard, yes, juste five minutes ago :) bgkriegel mentioned it on that same bug
13:33 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24662 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Remove global variables MSG_* from datatables.inc
13:33 * oleonard       testing Bug 24662
13:33 oleonard         /usr/bin/msgmerge: error while opening "/home/vagrant/kohaclone/misc/translator/po/fr-FR-messages-js.po" for reading: No such file or directory
13:33 oleonard         jajm: Have you ever encountered this error before?
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13:08 magnuse          lulz
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13:04 oleonard         And "Gresham-Barlow School District" which is great, because all those Oregon parents searching for the #GBSD hashtag will get some good skinny-dipping content
13:04 ashimema[m]      lol
13:02 oleonard         Also "Ground Based Strategic Deterrent," so not quite as good company as the naturists
13:01 Joubu            Did you know that GBSD also means "The Great British Skinny Dip"? "The Great British Skinny Dip is a project run by British Naturism. Every year this great event provides lots of opportunities for people to try costume-free swimming across many varied locations throughout the UK."
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12:45 wahanui          Congratulations!
12:45 koha-jenkins     Yippee, build fixed!
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12:34 wahanui          hi oleopard
12:34 ashimema[m]      Hi oleonard
12:33 oleonard         Hi all, happy GBSD
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12:29 wahanui          Congratulations!
12:29 koha-jenkins     Yippee, build fixed!
12:08 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 22898: Add selenium tests placing holds (staff) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f1378a537e73c05783082725f203b4cb1eeec596>
12:08 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 22898: Since bug 23957, submit element is now a button (no longer input) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=25aad587d2b8789f171e3f3093362d1856f388ea>
12:08 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 22898: Fix failure since bug 19618 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7c9680749fa3a56ee65e823b318b22876a95edce>
12:08 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 24531: Test for OAI-PMH sets and repeated fields <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3a49e02a5d184a7be800df3e6d0037584fdf3251>
12:08 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 24531: Fix OAI-PMH sets for records with repeated fields <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d1a0921fd106bc910fff2fed74344bbad4d33f55>
12:05 ashimema[m]      ditzy moment ;)
12:05 ashimema[m]      yeah.. I thought that after i said it..
12:04 jajm             ashimema[m], yes we want them for __* functions
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11:59 wahanui          Congratulations!
11:59 koha-jenkins     Yippee, build fixed!
11:58 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 24661: Fix inclusion of locale-related javascript files <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d2e60c553ba42e61c8ad321c3625e6d291e9c13d>
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11:55 wahanui          Congratulations!
11:55 koha-jenkins     Yippee, build fixed!
11:53 ashimema[m]      no harm I suppose anyways
11:52 ashimema[m]      do we actually need/want the other two assets in the /en template ?
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11:50 jajm             :)
11:49 ashimema[m]      thanks
11:49 ashimema[m]      I'll fast QA that one now
11:49 ashimema[m]      you've also updated it to Asset in that one... that was going to be my next question..
11:49 wahanui          darn tootin' it is.
11:49 ashimema[m]      excellent
11:49 ashimema[m]      I'd not seen that one.
11:49 ashimema[m]      ooh..
11:48 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24661 normal, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Inclusion of locale-related javascript files is broken
11:48 jajm             it shouldn't be a problem with bug 24661
11:47 ashimema[m]      do we need/wan't a default one for the /en set
11:47 jajm             ashimema[m], yes
11:47 ashimema[m]      so.. i realise that locale_data.js gets created by the translation tools when installed a translated language right?
11:47 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21156 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to master , Internationalization: plural forms, context, and more for JS files
11:47 wahanui          bug 21156 is not pushed yet, so should not work here?
11:47 ashimema[m]      bug 21156
11:46 jajm             ashimema[m], yes
11:45 ashimema[m]      jajm around?
11:44 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 21156: (RM follow-up) Correction to added filters <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=97b84b631f13b6b4a024b39cf928c11ae3dc6b88>
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11:09 huginn           Joubu: The operation succeeded.
11:09 Joubu            @later tell aleisha Hi Aleisha, could you have a look at Martin's patches on bug 24474. Do they fix the issues you reported?
11:07 cait             only 83 bugzilla updates? you can DO MORE! :)
11:00 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 15352: (RM follow-up) Add missing filters <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8d417d4a6fccf5d871a389ce13cd1d283ce1deee>
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10:31 Joubu            kohaputti: I agree, but that is a simple patch to fix a feature that is broken with ES. That was enough for me to let it go. We should open a bug report to fix it in the module
10:28 kohaputti        we probably should do something about it other than just fix the internal uses of OR, because the users doing the search might still use lower case. Or, if we want to support only upper case OR then we probably should deprecate lower case or in the zebra searches
10:27 kohaputti        * I assume we support
10:27 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24506 major, P5 - low, ---, andreas.jonsson, Signed Off , Multibranch limit does not work with ElasticSearch
10:27 kohaputti        Joubu, reading bug 24506 I assume support with Zebra using 'or' as or query, but with ES only 'OR' is supported as or query. This most likely applies to any advanced catalogue searches the user might do using or or and keywords
10:13 huginn           Joubu: The operation succeeded.
10:13 Joubu            @later tell kidclamp Hi Nick, could you add you stamp to bug 24532? I did not follow the different patches to be confident enough with the changes.
10:13 huginn           Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23727 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Editing course reserve items is broken
10:13 magnuse          bug 23727
10:12 huginn           Joubu: The operation succeeded.
10:12 Joubu            @later tell khall Hi Kyle, could you have a look at bug 23727? I do not know how to fix it correctly.
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09:39 Joubu            or FIX, can't remember
09:39 Joubu            BREAK ALL THE THINGS!
09:39 Joubu            yes :)
09:38 ashimema[m]      did I break jenkins
09:37 ashimema[m]      oh dear..
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09:02 huginn           Null404: I suck
09:02 Null404          @ashimema[m] what should I do first update Ubuntu, then Koha or first update Koha, then Ubuntu ?
08:53 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 15352: Do not display the link if item.uri does not exist <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0c2d158497b379058db62cccca9d7131377a1d4a>
08:52 Null404          okay
08:49 ashimema[m]      should be.. the .04 update to it is just around the corner (22nd Feb).. I tend to recommend waiting for about that release in a cycle
08:48 Null404          version 19.11 is stable and safe to use in library, right ?
08:47 ashimema[m]      Well.. the upgrade process will walk through all updates in order anyway.. so you can just straight to 19.11 if you want.  There are some fairly big DB updates between those versions though so it's mostly about how long it takes.
08:44 Null404          I have a quick question: If I have KOHA 17.11 and should I update to 18.11 then to 19.11 or straight from 17.11 to 19.11 ?
08:41 huginn           News from kohagit: Bug 15352: (RM follow-up) Add missing filters <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e6550fd751dc7e73c8e6bfd83043bfde23f4d634>
08:35 ashimema[m]      huggin?
08:35 wahanui          messages are coming through out of order again today
08:35 ashimema[m]      messages?
08:31 ashimema[m]      Morning #koha
08:26 Null404          It really worked ! Thank You for help! :)
08:18 paxed            you need to create a new template, tools -> marc modification templates  (IIRC)
08:17 Null404          I have only: "Modify record using the following template: F to i"
08:16 Null404          okay, I got "Batch record modification" by specific numbers and I cannon find where to modify MARC inside these records
08:08 Null404          okay I got it
08:07 Joubu            execute it and you will see a "edit biblio in a batch" (or similar) button at the top of the result table
08:06 Joubu            Null404: write a report, like: select biblionumber from biblio where author="your author";
08:00 wahanui          hi, alex_a
08:00 alex_a           Bonjour
07:53 wahanui          i already had it that way, huginn.
07:53 huginn           Null404: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
07:53 Null404          @hagud I want to update date of birth of specific author because some records have wrong date of birth (1927, not 1929) and I don't want do manual edit over 60+ records
07:46 hagud            I know a little marcedit, what do you want to do?
07:45 Null404          I've not used MarcEdit too
07:44 davidnind        Null404: You could also export the records, modify using MarcEdit, and reimport - I've not used MarcEdit much, so you will have to figure out how to do that
07:44 Null404          okay, i take a look of this
07:43 davidnind        Null404: Here is a tutorial by the wonderful ByWaters staff https://bywatersolutions.com/education/monday-minutes-marc-modification-templates
07:35 Null404          okay, thanks for help @davidnind
07:33 davidnind        Null404: I only know you can, but I have not done it in real life - maybe a bit later someone who has done it can help (or post a message to the mailing list)
07:32 reiveune         hello
07:28 Null404          but I don't have set any lists or templates
07:26 davidnind        Null404: Have a look at Tools > Batch item modification and Batch record modification (https://koha-community.org/manual/19.11/en/html/tools.html#batch-record-modification)
07:09 Null404          and I don't want do manual edit over 60+ records
07:07 Null404          because some records have wrong date of birth
07:06 Null404          I want to update date of birth of specific author
07:05 Null404          is there any way to edit multiple records by author of the book ?
07:05 Null404          hello everyone
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01:37 hayley           when a bug report says I am not authorised to access it, I know it's a security patch, but do I need to be able to get to it as rmaint to update its status etc. ?
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